Both Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson will forever be remembered as the two people responsible for the franchise's destruction. Forever and universally hated by fans.
I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of dollars cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something financial has happened.
Seedy J funny. But I have an unrelated question. Rogue One showed us that ANH lied to us about it being the first big death star test. Strange that Obi-Wan acted as if this was the first time he felt a great disturbance of the force. Guess jedha city's millions didn't count as enough people lol =(.. . . . . . .
They're using the same tactics as they used with Ghostbusters 2016. The film does badly, an actress suddenly gets harassed by "racists" and "misogynists" over Twitter, media goes wild and paints the fans in a bad light, etc. Same shit, different year.
Verklarte Nacht Whatever happened to taking the blame... Back then, a film director, producer or whoever else is responsible would accept the blame and carry on like what happened with Heaven's Gate(1980). None of them use that "misogyny" or "racist" bullcrap to avoid admitting that they're wrong. In fact they were way more earnest about accepting the blame than any of these narcissistic knuckleheads would ever want to do, given that their egos is the size of Betelgeuse. A shame really.
I hate when people like Rian generalize entire groups like star wars fans, just because i disliked the movie doesn't mean i'm an asshole troll... It's the Ghostbusters problem all over again...
The fan boycott was a huge success! We (the unhappy fans) proved to Disney that we are not mindless drones that will buy and see anything with the words STAR WARS in it! We showed that we are passionate fans and that Kathleen Kennedy’s vision is ruining what we have come to love and cherish since the debut of A New Hope in 1977. I hope that by some miracle they bring in someone with a vision and passion that the fans have showed with this boycott.
There was a boycott? I just really didn't want to watch two Star Wars movies IN THE SAME 12 MONTH SPAN. Also, TLJ was awful and I've frankly just stopped being hyped for Star Wars as a result. God, now there's something I never thought I'd say.
garcianelson123 That Boycott was a massive failure, because it was thought up by triggered fanboys. Not people who understand economics. By boycotting Solo, you have successfully told Disney "I preferred Last Jedi to Solo", because they look at PROFIT, and if TLJ makes way more money (as it did), they will assume people liked it, and hated the movie which was basically designed to do exactly what the fans asked.
zombieLISKlizard You're looking at it the wrong way. People pay for their ticket BEFORE they see the movie, not after. People were excited to see a new Episode in the Star Wars story, and Episode 8 absolutely failed at being a good movie. Just look at its reviews. After that, people got so fed up with Disney, they're done watching their movies. I have to partially agree with you, tho. People did want to see Episode 8, but even if it was a success, I just don't see myself going to see Solo at all. It's just not as interesting as Rogue One.
@zombwhatever: Not only do you not understand what the term "triggered" means but you don't understand what is happening the SW universe. Last Jedi is a MONUMENTAL loser. Solo was just a WORSE MONUMENTAL loser. Disney is losing an AVALANCHE of money on their purchase of the franchise. There was no formal boycott. It is just the SW fan base just flipped off Disney back after Disney flipped them off in movie content, character development, SJW and most importantly -- DIRECTLY INSULTING those fans.
It's not fatigue, it's not marketing, it's not other movies, it's not production issues. It's the decline in quality and the shitting all over fans. I now draw much greater pleasure from video essays documenting the rapid decline of star wars than from star wars movies themselves.
Hate to say this but, Star Wars is dead. It's broken beyond repair since The Force Awakens/The Last Jedi made the Original Trilogy pointless. There's no hope left for this beloved series. Disney, LucasFilm and Kathleen Kennedy have destroyed something people have cherished.
Master Vidxad 58 I had to watch my father die inside while watching that film. I'm with you. It all needs to burn until Disney sells the franchise to another company at least.
Master Vidxad 58 yeah, episode 9 has too much of a hurdle to leap, to try and stay cohesive with Last Jedi, and repair the damage, it can't be both. Episode 9 will be a colossal failure, like the industry hasn't seen before. The lead up to it will be particularly embarrassing for everyone, it will be cringeworthy when the trailer comes out.
The new stuff is dead the OT and EU will continue to live on. Honestly the only thing Disney has to do is to announce the Disney trilogy is non Canon set in another universe
Ur TheDuke No, I refuse to accept that trash as canon. The original trilogy will always be Star Wars for me. It won't be marred by any of the fetid effluvia Disney is trying to push. Who hasn't seen some nasty craps? But that doesn't stop us from enjoying the food we eat.
KK is out there! She can't be bargained with. She can't be reasoned with. She doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and she absolutely will not stop! Ever!... Until Star Wars is dead.
George Lucas said “People don’t understand. It’s NOT about spaceships and laser guns “ Disney said “Well we are making it about SJWs” Fans said “Nope”. I would rather play with my old action figures. “ Me- “ I could’ve made a better film WITH Action Figures “
Peple being dumb and saying the prequels suck Because it isn't space ships and blasters and has actually backstory that adds to the lore people saying the prequels suck are directly responsible for the lazy rehashes and the sjw Crap isn't helping
My GF watched Ghosbusters with me at home and she couldn't even watch half of it. She loves the original and hated the remake. If she hated it I was wondering who they made the movie for lol. Same thing is now happening to Disney Star Wars and its sad to watch.
Hmmmmm, I don't really know either about GB. I think little kids, in particularly girls enjoy it. The key is the original GB had that blend of adult and kid. GB II and the reboot, went for the kids, but wanted to entertain adults.
JubeiSenpai because most women are not Borg and you can't fool them by serving them a shitty movie while saying "but look it has veganas in it, you also have a vegana, you will love it". I personally feel like it is more insulting to women then anything.
ur right Sempai, original GB was fun & had great chemistry between the actors & characters along with a great storyline. New one had poor story, bad acting & poorly developed characters. It was basically made with hope to sell a bunch of crappy merchandise to little kids, they just forgot about those who buy that merchandise for the kids also sit in the theatre with them. Original GB was cool & fun just like original SW, and that what's missing with both. Marvel figured that out, and while I'm already tired of all the marvel movies coming out (whats next a, plumber that unclogs toilets w powers?), but at least the characters that continue being developed throughout the interconnected movies are enough to have me continue coming back to watch some of them.
Advice for Round Head Rian - You better spend under $100 mil on your new Star Wars film if you want it to make money. You've painted a target on your back and as soon as we see your name on the film, we're going the other way.
placid renegade It's not Disney, it's Lucasfilm's. These movie studios have full control of what they do and Disney's part of things is to fund them technically I guess.
Yeah. Well at least we have Lucas' Star Wars and EU. Disney can just sell us merch from this point onwards. I didn't go to cinema to see soft reboot. I didn't go to cinema to see an explanation for a plot hole that wasn't even a plot hole to begin with. I didn't go to cinema to get my expectations subverted. And I didn't go to cinema to see how much the space dice matter. I went to cinema to see Star Wars...and I got nothing. Well actually I got the Vader scene from the "plot hole explanation that even wasn't one" , that was something I considered to be a pleasant surpsise.
“If the franchise was able to survive Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, we have a hard time believing Last Jedi could have done that much damage." Oh, yes. You better believe it, "experts". Disney could cover entire cities with posters and billboards promoting Solo, and people would still refuse to see it b/c of The Last Jedi.
Carlos: agreed 100%. People can say w/e they want about the prequels, but at least Lucas had a clear vision of the story that he wanted to tell. TLJ is a joke and it's not even funny (much like the "humor" in the film).
This quote shows perfectly why they failed: The upper management and analysts think they know how Star Wars works because they watched it once 10 years ago, without even knowing how exactly Rian Johnson messed it up. The fact that TLJ was compared to any SW movie other than the holiday special shows they just can't comprehend what's wrong with TLJ. They think "oh yeah, it's got light sabers, a bit of space combat, and we even made some birds that are much cuter than the ewoks. It can't possibly fail and we'll sell cute bird plushies like crazy!!!".
RIP Star Wars 1977 - 2014 Died because of lazy writing, the absence of George Lucas, horrible movies, disrespect to fans, unbelievable franchise milking, bad business decisions, poor management of merchandise quantity, leftists agenda and "subverting expectations".
R.I.P Star Wars November 1976 - April 2014. Any post-April 2014 TV show, 2015 film and post-2015 film is imitation -SW- "Di$ney War$" garbage and should not be included in that timespan...
I've heard a lot of "official" reasons for Solo's failure, none of which are the actual reason it failed. The reason the movie failed had nothing to do with the movie itself. It failed because the previous movie was nothing but 2 hours of Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson ramming a bunch of SJW and feminist bullshit down the audience's throat. Surprise, the audience didn't like that! They came to the movie to GET AWAY from that garbage for a couple of hours, to escape into a galaxy far, far away.
The killing off of Han Solo was never Kathleen. Harrison figured that Han's death would have served well in The Empire Strikes Back. It was Lucas who managed to talk Ford into staying with it, and the whole business of Carbonite freezing was written the way it was so that he could have been lost or thawed out dead. My problem with Force Awakens wasn't the overly emphasized diversity, nor Han's death. It was the entire concept of the planetary death base.
Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were criticized over some lackluster acting, dialogue, Jar Jar, etc. They were not offensive to most fans sensibilities and in no way took a dump on the original series.
Fans know the difference between flaws in a movie and crapping on the franchise. All of the movies had their flaws, but TLJ crapped all over the franchise and the makers crapped all over the fans
Well I surely liked Evan McGregor's Obi wan , Mace windu , Anakin (despite the bad acting , count dooku and palpatine's character . I grew up liking them as the prequels get me into star wars just like countless young fans worldwide
I felt bad for Jake Lloyd then and I feel bad for Kelly Marie Tran now. Whatever you think about their acting talent, no one could have done much better with the horrible material that was written for them. You can't give someone a piece of shit and expect them to carve it into a violin and play Mozart on it.
Forgot to mention Hayden, yeah, He's done really okay with what he had to work with. I don't know anyone who can convincingly talk about hating sand and make it sound romantic.
The Prequels were badly made. But they never ruined Star Wars for me. They're atleast a FUN kind of bad. You can bring friends over and watch the Prequels and you'd have a blast making fun of everything. But the new movies aren't a fun kind of bad, they're a bland kind of bad. You can't get any enjoyment out of how bad they are, you just sit there in confusion. Prequels=Batman & Robin Sequels=Fant4stic
The prequels and sequels each have the exact opposite problems. The prequels have great concepts, attempted something new, and attempt to really build the universe but suffered from Lucas's clunky/overly perfunctory dialog and his directing failing to guide even great actors. But overall, at least Lucas cared about connecting stuff and making the two trilogies align. Nonetheless, the vast majority of its issues could've been easily cleared up by the employ of a more skilled screenwriter and a more actor-friendly (co-?)director. The sequels, while having had directors much better at getting the most out of their actors and far snappier dialog (even if it often abandoned the '30s/'40s movie speak of the first 6 movies for more anachronistically contemporary-sounding lines) have virtually no world building or lore expansion -- just a repackaging of old ideas and SJW messages for undertones. The writers of the sequels don't seem to care about the prior two trilogies thematically, just how they can use it to make money and push their story not continue the characters narrative logically but shock value twists. They're basically glorified fan fiction.
>But overall, at least Lucas cared about connecting stuff and making the two trilogies align I love the prequels but what bullshit. Lucas didn't even remember Leia had memories of her mother and he's the one who wrote both that scene and the one where Padme dies during childbirth.
Because that and Owen not remembering 3PO is such a big fucking deal in the grand scheme of the saga... : P (Even so, it's been kind of established in these movies that Leia's Force "specialty" is telepathy.)
the prequels main issues were the direction to make everyone wooden, and some pacing issues (frequent 15 minute politic/talking segments in an adventure film). I read the books and felt a LOT better about them. The deathknells have issues because of terrible writing, pacing, plot structure and forced-politicing. Litteral killing off of franchise favourites who somehow ended up as lifelong loosers rather than heroes/figureheads/matured-characters luke backslid from being a self-confident hero in his prime into being a worried powerless hermit who tried to kill a student (and not only failed but failed so badly the student became everything he feared) han had a kid then ~left~ to go back to being a low-grade smuggler with debt problems Leia went from royalty to battle commander (of a desperate but hardened force), then mother, then a battle commander (of an abandoned and shunned splinter group). plus new characters that go nowhere (there is ZERO character development, people turn up, they do things, then they show that the power was withing them all along. and i'm not just talking mary sue here either, poe, fin, akbar, vice-admiral problematic, rose none of them develop and many of them make sudden decisions that had zero lead-up).
It's funny how they are trying to blame the crisis on racism....without realising that by implication they are saying that Star Wars originally became such a huge and wildly loved franchise because of racism.
Star Wars 5 Month Gap problem? Hmmmm...Thor Ragnorak to Black Panther= 3 month Gap. Black Panther to Infinity War= 2 month gap. MCU had 3 films in 5 months that have grossed over 4 Billion Dollars combined. MCU has released 19 films in 10 years and they are making more money now, than when they started.
Green Man If you give the fans what they want and have a sense of continuity, you can't really go wrong. Plus they've had many films to perfect the formula. Star Wars should've just stuck to what has worked for 40 years. Disney wanted to change it into something it wasn't to appeal to the largest demographic possible and they tried to do it in a very short space of time because Star Wars is just another cashcow. The only business I like to see fail, is big business. Even at the expense of one of my favourite entertainment franchises.
Green Man the Gap is only important If the movies are doing bad. You need to give people time to forget the trauma of a bad movie, but a good movie could have an output rate as Quick as they can produce It, and people will see.
That’s why I hate Marvel, if I watch a movie I don’t want to have to watch 20 other movies to understand it. A lot of people don’t like Marvel because of that, children like it because of that.
Silenced, and people watch Star Wars just to "understand" that being a white heterosexual male is the worst thing to be in the universe. Marvel doesn't degrade their fans and their movies are creative. Star Wars attacks and insults their fan base, and their movies are extremely flat. Star Wars has brought zero creativity to their movies. They've simply been living in the past, or if they try something new, it's either horrible, or a smack in the face of their base. The only thing keeping Star Wars alive, is nostalgia and that is the only thing Disney has kept in their movies and without it, they would be flatlining.
How does diversity inherently improve anything? These are the same people that also say that there are no noteworthy genetic or mental differences between any race or gender. So how does diversity improve anything if it doesn’t add anything “new”.
Spencer Whiteway True. It's SJW logic I suppose. Also Star Wars has always been diverse. Species from across the SW Galaxy have always been represented lol.
Good luck getting the left to answer that question honestly. It is just a bit too racist to truthfully say, "We want diversity of colour because we hate white people".
I don't see them complaining about how any Japanese or Latin made film are filled exclusively with Japanese or Latin folk respectfully. But as soon as a Caucasian made film is filled with a exclusively or even just mostly Caucasian cast, _Ring the fucking sirens baby!!_
When they talk about diversity, they sure as hell don't mean diversity of you know ways of thinking or belief. Only race and gender. Which last i check. What makes a good character is their personally and well character. Not what is inbetween their legs.
Despite your video gaining half a million views this week, and thousands of likes and comments, the media still calls us a "handful of trolls" and a "vocal minority". Desperation has never smelled so obvious.
its hard to believe that at this point they keep claiming its a minority and try to use any other excuse for the poor results of Solo, agreed it never smelled so obvious
No other Star Wars movie has been based on toxic feminism and SJW politics. Nor has any other Lucas film president said “f” the fans to trigger the fans saying “f” you back and close their wallets. My wallet is closed and it will stay closed as long as Kathleen Kennedy is at the helm.
My wallet is closed until Disney has a complete turn around on all avenues. It won't be good enough for me for them to lay off the SJW post modernism in Star Wars alone.
To be honest, Rogue One team was diverse but I didn't feel that fact at all when watching that movie, and only when I read some comments, I realized that they were....
Forgive my scepticism, but...does anybody else think that the timing of Kelly Marie Tran's departure from Instagram is a little *too* convenient? She just happened to receive enough abuse after Solo - *a movie that she wasn't even in* - bombed, rather than all the shade flung at her character when TLJ was still the hot topic? They've taken lying, false accusations, and double standards from feminism...are we *really* that surprised that they'd take the victim complex too?
... And they said George Lucas destroyed Star Wars. 1: At least he damn well tried. 2: He allowed people to expand on the canon (and even said some things were officially what happened after the movies, Mara Jade and Grand Admiral Thrawn being two things worthy of note) and 3: He did NOT insult the fans who mattered... Which was practically the majority. 4: ... He listened... And he did his best. If it wasn't for the fans, Jango Fett would not have appeared in episode 2. Again, say whatever you want about the prequels, you could feel that there was genuine effort there!
Again, Lucas himself said some of those games were Canon... Including Starkiller, Thrawn and Mara Jade....... I think Kyle Katarn as well. For someone who was "So dedicated to realizing [George's] dreams", she pretty much just tossed it all into a fire.
I can sit down and watch the prequels anytime, no problem. I only saw TFA and TLJ once in theaters. Never saw them on TV. I only watched Rogue One through TH-cam clips.
Everyone is talking about the poor actors and how everyone is attacking them. But I don’t remember anybody back in the day defending jake loyd and Hayden Christensen who suffered the same or more harrasment. Maybe it is because there was no social media but still, there was the same or even more attacks to those two. The media is so stupid.
*The original 3:* loved them. *The prequels:* they were okay but hands down best action and best light saber battles. *Rogue One:* Fantastic film with some plot problems. *The Force Awakens:* nostalgia love, cant wait to see what they do with Ray. *The Last Jedi:* Total garbage and destroyed any good story going forward. *Han Solo:* Could have made it as a non Star Wars film but missed the mark big time. *End result:* The Last Jedi should be made uncannon Literally a do-over like they did with Highlander 2.
I actually entirely agree with this. Watching back the prequels only the action and lightsaber fights are truely amazing, the rest okay or bad except for Ewan McGregor, he was amazing. Thoroughly enjoyed Rogue One, Force Awakens wasn't that good, but it did a good job of setting op a potential banger as a second movie... and then the monstrousity that is TLJ came out... wtf....
I feel bad for Kelly Marie Tran. It's tough for an up and coming actress to break into a harsh business, especially when your first major role is as an uninteresting, unnecessary character in a terrible film. Made worse by that idiot Johnson antagonizing the fans and ignoring his own faults. To steal a quote from Bob Hoskins 'The director's arrogance was mistaken for talent.' I hope Tran will be all right, and I hope Johnson gets his head out of his ass, but that doesn't seem likely.
The prequels weren’t great, but didn’t sink the franchise because the problems weren’t SJW agendas. People don’t want that shit in their movies or a SJW in charge of any of it.
it's now open season on fans to defend star wars and to turn Kelly Marie Tran into victim of star wars fan. now since 2015 i was called racist and sexist because i supported bernie sanders over hilary clinton.i have no time for these turning fans into villains.and people at lucasfilm has been bashing star wars fans for not liking the last jedi
Solo should have been written from the cocky over confident alpha male stereotype angle, that of which they do not understand, irony in motion, people.
Exactly! Nothing about the trailers or movie that I've seen/heard makes me believe that the guy they show is Han Solo. You can't rewrite and cast Han as some short beta male character trying to find his way in the world. He is the definition of an over-confident alpha male and anything less would be uncharacteristic of him. #notmysolo
He wasn't a hero until the end of the original trilogy, so he would have made a ton of selfish decisions that had him end up in a cantina doing deals with Jabba. It literally writes itself.
Attack of the clones and the Phantom Menace did not mock fans And tell them to eat shit. The last Jedi was the worst movie I have ever seen. It was disgusting and not kid friendly. It’s the last thing I would ever want in a Star Wars movie and I would have preferred that they not even made it. Who gets their kicks off of mocking the original characters Only to make them do things that they would never do. The things that they made these characters do were Embarrassing and insulting and quite frankly repulsive. It was a no go to solo for me and episode nine will never be mine!! 👍🏼Save your money everyone this franchise is dead to me
Gavin Felan You don’t know me! Don’t judge me based on my opinion of TLJ. The story, politics, and insults packaged into TLJ has formed my opinion of the overall story, characters, and what RJ purposely tried to do. Let me be clear here, some of the cinematography, affects, and music was appealing so I can see where this was better than some movies. There ARE indeed a lot of horrible movies out there but NONE that has affected me more personally in a negative way than this steaming pile of crap!
We are suffering from horrible movie (TLJ) fatigue, insult the fans fatigue, not following Star Wars lore fatigue, destroying our favorite characters fatigue, uninteresting new characters fatigue etc. but not too many Star Wars movie fatigue. If they made a Star Wars movie every year and it was at least decent or better and followed the established Star Wars lore I would look forward to watching every one of them. I would never get tired of seeing good Star Wars movies.
Star wars is failing as a whole because TLJ sucked! Too me it made Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones look good by comparison. Even my kids(12 and 14) did not want to see Solo after TLJ sucking so bad.
Your an idiot and s part of the problem the prequels where brillant but you low iq sheeple wanted space ships and blasters not story so you deserve these terrible retrashes its people like you Disney makes money off
Man, we are not alone. There are plenty of fans around the world that share the same sentiment and see what is happening. Or else Solo would have bombed only in the US. Let's keep it up people, this is not over yet!
I've seen if for a few years in the media now, not just with Star Wars either. I've seen writers, showrunners, actors and PR spokespeople for TV shows acting like arrogant narcissists who simply won't tolerate any criticism from members of the public. There's a sci-fi show in the UK called Doctor Who and they've been like this for over 10 years. It's actually quite fascinating because it certainly didn't seem to be like this before the middle of the 2000s. It seems to have become more evident during the rise of social media. Social media must do something to people's brains and turn people who already have a large ego into petulant nutcases. They seem to think the internet is just for them to promote themselves and their own work and feel that the only feedback the general public ought to respond with is glowing praise. If people don't criticise things then things just don't get better and improve, because the feedback wouldn't be there to help them remedy their shortcomings. If they were smart then they could recognise that much of the criticism is useful and helpful. It can't carry on like this because there will be a breaking point. A point will be arrived at where the media will have to stop looking down at the public as if they're excrement on their shoe, otherwise the public will outright reject them.
I didn't see Solo because I feel that movie role could only ever be played by Harrison Ford. Oh, and also because of the Clone Awakens, the Last Straw, and even Star Wars fatigue.
skeletorrobo I saw it the other day as I have MoviePass and it doesnt cost me shit extra to see. It wasn't a bad movie, but it really wasn't much to write home about. Just an average movie...... Which for it to have the Star Wars name behind, is mostly unacceptable.
Thanks for your review. I don't think I'll end up watching it though, partly because when I was growing up, I thought Harrison Ford was the greatest actor (Indiana Jones, Han Solo). So I can't bring myself to watching this one. Maybe if it were about a new character, for instance, I could've given it a try. At the end of the day however, Disney has failed terribly with their new series and I have lost interest in seeing subsequent releases.
Not having ever looked at Ms. Tran's Instagram account, I can't say how bad the comments people have posted on it really were before she deactivated her account. At any rate, it's a distraction. Rumors are flying that Kennedy may be departing as early as September-if true, it's probably because Disney needs time to find a suitable replacement and come up with a plausible excuse for her termination that will let her save face.
SO far, all we know is that her Instagram account was deactivated. I haven't seen whatever was posted on there, or any official statement by Ms. Tran or her agent as to why it was taken down. Johnson seems to be just reacting and trolling as always.
The Wilk Report Wouldn't matter who Disney gets to run the ship after she's gone, it's already on the verge of sinking at any moment now and all the once loyal crew members (fans) have abandoned it long ago.
I wish deadpool also traveled back in time to 2012 to when lucas was about to sell it to disney and either shot bob iger or told lucas that people would actually appreciate the prequels and actually wish he was back.
Mutale Mwananshiku prequels actually had a good and consistent story. They suffered from trying to answer the questions no one was asking and from empty filler moments but actual story arc was meaningful and interesting. New movies have more plot holes than actual plot, story makes no sense, OT is devalued in the most awful manner possible and filler was not only omnipresent it was also disgustingly boring. Lucas made a big mistake and I think he regrets it deeply because he actually cared about the stories he created.
MrRavellon Politics in the prequels: Very long winded, detailed, intricate, greatly relative to the story, and complex. Just a bit too much for a lot of people making it kind of boring. Politics in the Last Jedi: Lelz let's throw in a political scene with the level of awareness of a 5 year old with no great importance to the story.
kenneth leo Or: Prequels: This is how democratic system can be subverted and turned into tyranny by manipulating the fears of the populous and promising them safety in exchange for a little bit of freedom. Do try not to fall for such tactics in real life. Sequels: Nazis = bad; anti-Nazis = good. Men = evil or useless, women = good and smart. Hurr durr. Also, if you don't blindly follow orders you are a dum dum. Or a hero. Depends on who gives the orders, our guys or other guys.
The prequels were like a child doing a colouring book. All the lines were drawn, Lucas simply had to colour them. Yes, he used the wrong colours, and yes, he went outside the lines a lot. And I mean a lot. To the point where it looks like not so much a child has done it but someone with the 'mind of a child', so to speak. Still, his heart was in the right place in spite of his incompetence and we now look (somewhat, maybe) lovingly on that child's picture hanging there on the fridge. Doesn't make it good, certainly doesn't make it art but compared to the cold, cynical Star Wars of today?
Darkness1984. Not a fair comparison. Episode 1 made money, spawned best selling books, games, and toys. Solo movie toys are already in the Wal-Mart clearance aisle! Not saying episode 1 was great, but its far better than this crap.
+Darkness1984 No Star Wars movie has ever come near the bad results of Solo. The very first one ran in theaters for almost one whole year(!), and then got shown again for some time when Empire Strikes Back got released. Now we have a SW movie that got worse results in the first weekend than Deadpool 2 in its second weekend - and Deadpool 2 is made for a far smaller audience and with a smaller budget. Episode 1 wasn't great but it's still much better than at least 3 of the 4 Disney SW movies - I admit I kinda liked Rogue One, but that's the only little highlight in a pile of disappointments.
We gonna really need Episode IX to fail (and I'm pretty sure it won't cross the billion mark) to this people wake up? Fine by me, I have no intention of seeing that movie in theaters or paying to see it. Not even because of a principled boycott against Disney to send a message, but because it's coming from the worst set-up for a finale ever (Infinity War and Empire Strike Backs, that is how you set-up a finale), all the characters I love are either death and disgraced or are a joke (Chewie, R2-D2 and even C3-PO) and what left are this garbage uninteresting undeveloped SJW caricatures, the villain sucks and the best part. They hire back the fucking "mystery box" guy that didn't produce ONE SINGLE satisfying finale in his entire career to write and direct this film. That's here is a receipt to "greatness" obviously. Really, who the hell is excited to see Rey's kick Kylo Ren's butt for the third time with her vagina powers?
It will make 75 Million curiosity Dollars Opening weekend,then when the spoilers get out "which no one cares if they do." and word of mouth spreads as to what actually happens in the movie! it will bomb so bad it will make Ishtar look like a box office Hit of Titanic proportions which could be the best thing ever imagine Star Wars being an indy Film again with a limited budget by a small company that has to make a traditional fairy tale work in order to succeed might be the best thing for Star Wars!
75 million I think is to low, I would bet a 150 million opening weekend and a 70% drop or something closer in the second weekend. Won't cross 400 million domestically and probably won't cross 1 billion worldwide. If they get something worse than that I will be extremely happy, the dissatisfaction will be a lot bigger than I'm thinking. I guess it's will depend's on the overall quality of the movie too, but I bet this movie will no come close to VIII.
I don't think many people understand that Disney don't actually mind if Star Wars fails. To them (and others) it was a bit of an outsider to begin with. They've always wanted to emulate its genuine success. What better way to surpass it than by acquiring and destroying it? It's sad in some ways, but then again... I guess it was bound to happen, especially since they felt they had the largest audience base at their disposal and they could go ahead and promote their nefarious agenda with it, failing to grasp that people will never accept those things.
'At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another.' Titus 3:3
"Fire Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson into the sun." Elon Musk might be a big enough Star Wars fan to save some space for the next Falcon Heavy test flight... "oops, seems the rocket got a bit off the trajectory. My bad."
I feel like Rian Johnson, Kathleen kennedy and the last jedi was like the chernobyl nuclear disaster in the star wars universe. Its currently so radioactive you don't want to go anywhere near it.
I'd say Star Wars fatigue is real, it's not just about films coming out too quickly one after the other, it's BAD films coming out to quickly one after the other.
I like how the shills have been reduced to comparing their sequel saga to the prequels. And even if we make that unflattering comparison, it turns out the prequels were less awful than the soulless husk that is Disney Star wars.
Best joke of 2018 Rian saying he is a real star wars fan... The same clown that does not understand the essence of star wars. Or how far his head is up his back side. But he is surviving by drinking from the cup of his own ego.
Holy shit, saying that Rian doesn't understand the ESSENCE of Star Wars and then trashing him for HIS ego? You DO see the irony in this right? The guy made a movie you didn't like, no need to get pretentious over it.
The Prequels were crappy movies... but The Last Jedi is a crappy movie that ALSO killed Star Wars excitement... almost universally. There are very few fans that are still excited about Star Wars after TLJ... and it goes beyond TLJ haters. People who thought it was okay, or who even liked it have less enthusiasm about Star Wars after that movie. Think about that for a minute. Even people who LIKED TLJ left the movie with no enthusiasm for what comes next. It's like a Star Wars appetite suppressant. Now THAT's a bizarre, and difficult thing to do, and somehow Rian Johnson pulled it off. That's why people think he killed Star Wars more than Lucas or Midichlorians or Jar Jar ever could.
You are so right. I didn't walk out the cinema hating The Last Jedi, (that came later) but I did leave thinking that would probably be the last time I went to watch a Star Wars film at the cinema. Which is never something I thought I'd ever feel....
I like the prequels - there is a solid through plot through those films - hammy dialog, a few dubious casting choices don't ruin that and don't lie to yourself you know you were super stoked the first time you saw the phantom menace. As for Solo - I think its a case of a story no one cared about. TLJ just isn't a good film
I don’t understand the delusion of people saying the prequels were bad. The majority people love Obi Wan, Darth Maul, the lightsaber duels etc yet they don’t like it? Lol gtfo
RFSA180 exactly, at the very least, when compared to The Last Jedi, Attack of the Clones has a coherent plot and actually attempts to do universe building and set up the next movie.
what do you expect to accomplish by attacking fans for any reason? Do they actually think they can guilt the fanbase into supporting their films? They need to quit while they're behind
I'm just annoyed. No reasonable person is against diversity or inclusion. It is just blatantly obvious and is counter productive. There's a difference when the characters are well written and actually have purpose greater than diversity. Again no one is mad that Rose was an asian woman. People are upset that Rose's character was pointless and felt forced for the sake of "diversity". People are upset that Lando Calrissian is pansexual because it changes the star-wars lore and was just an unnecessary addition (also if a massive portion of the audience are children why would you add sexual themes?). A common theme here is that people aren't upset that there is "diversity", but more of the fact that this "diversity" adds no value to the films and feels forced and in my opinion disingenuous. Personally I feel that being disingenuous is almost more harmful to their "diversity" cause than someone being downright racist. Because by being disingenuous about it you not only exploit the "diverse" people but come off like a liar to everyone else. The only way these people can redeem themselves is take full ownership of the situation and stop dancing around the obvious issue, which again isn't that people are intolerant or racist, but that their movie was poorly written, had an offensive amount of plot holes, and wasted all the potential from Force Awakens.
When Rowling announced that Albus Dumbledore was gay, I was like, "Alright," because the simple fact is it didn't negatively impact anything and it even gave a partial reason why he didn't see the dark side of Grindelwald's agenda. When Kathleen decided that the best way to build off the setting was to bury the setting, kill it if she had to, that said it all. It's NOT Star Wars! It hasn't been since Force Awakens. It's a twisted revenant someone cross-dressed and shoved out into the public view.
When I saw the trailers for Last Jedi, it looked amazing, but it was also a lie. Tricking fans into thinking Luke was back and ready to be the Jedi we all wanted. I would have loved to see the movie based on the trailer. They keep saying that the sequel trilogy is about bringing the Skywalker story to an end. That is pretty much a lie, same way that Rian Johnson thinks his movie is good..... nope.
No offense, but "The Jedi must come to an end" was said in the trailer by Luke. There was no trick. There was subterfuge. Rian gave us that Luke exactly.
The prequals aren't great, but they can be forgiven because they didn't ruin the originals the way last Jedi did. I went from being a die hard fan to despising the franchise...Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy can go diaf
It's sad that people like you are the ones ruining Star Wars. Incessantly droning on and repeating the same talking points about how someone with a different idea than you "raped your childhood" based around a single entry in a multibillion dollar movie franchise that you've turned into a damn religion. If you can't cope with the possibility of not enjoying something based off of something you generally like, you're laughably pathetic.
Travis Wiley well I'm sorry that you don't have an eye for any aspect of filmmaking that actually matters and would actually wait 30 years for a 60 year old fictional character to "do something cool" on the big screen. Apparently humanizing the character with a central theme of learning from failure, as well as a deconstruction on the necessity of the Jedi order, isn't good enough for your manchild tastes. Sad.
I love how this show opens like a PBS special, and then proceeds to be a hardcore video ripping into a beloved franchise that DEFINITELY needs to be ripped into at this point in time. I agree almost 100% with what you guys have been saying lately. What the hell have they done to Star Wars???
I believe Campea had insight as to what the rumors are about Kennedy. So he jumped on it to get a video out there that he personally has the same views of her job performance as the fans who don't approve of her. Except his views, timing & reasoning about KK makes absolutely no sense with his stance on what Lucasfilm has always been up until that point. It isn't genuine.
The Jacobite I believe I understand this fandom toxicity Campea is talking about. It's literally right here on this channel .. congratulations on being a part of that.
Yeah, he knows. I heard he got some close friends in the industry related to Lucasfilm, that's why he did the video. A diehard Disney shill like John Campea won't simply give up on Kathleen Kennedy.
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Solo would have done better if there weren't any trailers. The trailers showed big weaknesses in the story. I agree that Rian and Kathleen have ruined Star Wars. They have a left wing agenda and have completely ignored the Fans. Rian gets his thrills by going against the original message of Star Wars (Hope). This video is spot on. We are tired of the left agenda being crammed down our throats.
I did not go because it looked like it was going to suck. I found a version online and watched it. It sucked. Couldn't even sit through the whole thing.
Considering the track record of "feminist allies" i wouldnt be surprised if rian ends up accused of some rapey shenanigans sooner or later by the very feminist hes so eager to be a bootlicker for.
Wait until they make the Boba Fett Movie and he takes his helmet off...and he is actually a Trans woman with Purple Hair. Oh wait..... they already did that with Star Wars Rebels.
Diversity by itself does not make anything better in film. Whoever is in the film is not the concern, I’ll love it as long as the story is amazing and the characters are well written! When did criticism become “hate” and “outrage” and get you labelled an “ist” or “Nazi”? I think this tactic is to allow people like Rolling Round Johnson and Pablo Hildago to attack fans, because it’s okay once they label us as such.
@14:25 "160.000 something people" Nope, it's easily more, and that's only those that have a level of consciousness about their dislike of Star Wars. I talk to a lot of people who shrug their shoulders and say "for some reason" they are through with Star Wars and can't exactly put their finger on why that is.
IO9 is part of Gawker media. They are also connected with Kotaku. Kotaku was the gaming website that kicked off Gamergate. In fact yesterday if you googled Star Wars there were nothing but hit pieces about how toxic the fans were. It would be a shame if Star Wars goes through what Gamergate did......but this time i think it's different. Solo already failed at the box office where in Gamergate the video games kept selling like hot cakes. This whole thing is interesting to watch. I believe the Main Stream Media are trying to make sure this new wave of SJW Star Wars movies is what stays in place........but if no one is buying movie tickets then they dont have a case. (kind of why the media didn't go after Marvel Comics for getting rid of their new SJW stories because they weren't selling)
Kelly Marie Tran is not the problem why would people harass her ... As for Rian "balloon head"Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy I will never watch another movie Produced or Directed by either of them and if they could get their heads out of there posteriors they would realize that they just f'd there career's up ! Oh well off to jobs better suited to them like janitorial staff of a projects building were they can serve the downtrodden minorities ... maybe it could be a learning experience for them both.
Nice video glad to see you spreading the truth....solo failed because the executives and people at the top of Disney are treating the fans like they don’t need them, they are smug, rude and insulting, and just like any other business I don’t want to spend my money there and a lot of people are with me.
That guy sure has a serious case of confirmation bias and ignoring the evidence. "If the franchise survived TPM and AOTC, we have hard time believing TLJ could have caused so much damage". A "hard time believing" that those films were actually better, and TLJ just ended up much worse? Not to mention the whole Internet battlefield, where the marketing team and crew members actively went for the fans to call them names and blame the audience? Pathetic.
Both Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson will forever be remembered as the two people responsible for the franchise's destruction. Forever and universally hated by fans.
sorry dude, 1.3 billion dollars disagrre with you
Let's wind the clock back ten years and say the same thing about George Lucas.
I could agree more
Lol it died when Lucas sold it to Disney. The first Disney Star Wars was just as bad
Daniel Jones now that's just not true. The Force Awakens was a good movie with problems. TLJ was a bad movie with good moments.
I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of dollars cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something financial has happened.
this made me chuckle sad but true.
@Wayne Giles: Thanks. I figured turning Star Wars humor on the SJWs would be so perfect atm.
Seedy J funny. But I have an unrelated question. Rogue One showed us that ANH lied to us about it being the first big death star test.
Strange that Obi-Wan acted as if this was the first time he felt a great disturbance of the force. Guess jedha city's millions didn't count as enough people lol =(.. . . . . . .
@Arcexey: Yeah, I guess Obi Wan must have been having a Jake Skywalker day and chopped off his force gonads for a while.
xD Hahahahahhaahaaaa!!! 10/10
They're using the same tactics as they used with Ghostbusters 2016. The film does badly, an actress suddenly gets harassed by "racists" and "misogynists" over Twitter, media goes wild and paints the fans in a bad light, etc. Same shit, different year.
Verklarte Nacht Whatever happened to taking the blame...
Back then, a film director, producer or whoever else is responsible would accept the blame and carry on like what happened with Heaven's Gate(1980). None of them use that "misogyny" or "racist" bullcrap to avoid admitting that they're wrong.
In fact they were way more earnest about accepting the blame than any of these narcissistic knuckleheads would ever want to do, given that their egos is the size of Betelgeuse. A shame really.
I hate when people like Rian generalize entire groups like star wars fans, just because i disliked the movie doesn't mean i'm an asshole troll... It's the Ghostbusters problem all over again...
The fan boycott was a huge success! We (the unhappy fans) proved to Disney that we are not mindless drones that will buy and see anything with the words STAR WARS in it! We showed that we are passionate fans and that Kathleen Kennedy’s vision is ruining what we have come to love and cherish since the debut of A New Hope in 1977. I hope that by some miracle they bring in someone with a vision and passion that the fans have showed with this boycott.
There was a boycott? I just really didn't want to watch two Star Wars movies IN THE SAME 12 MONTH SPAN. Also, TLJ was awful and I've frankly just stopped being hyped for Star Wars as a result. God, now there's something I never thought I'd say.
I use to be hyped seeing new rpisode of The Clone Wars, and Rebels. And the newer movies. But Solo? Lol, nope.
garcianelson123 That Boycott was a massive failure, because it was thought up by triggered fanboys. Not people who understand economics. By boycotting Solo, you have successfully told Disney "I preferred Last Jedi to Solo", because they look at PROFIT, and if TLJ makes way more money (as it did), they will assume people liked it, and hated the movie which was basically designed to do exactly what the fans asked.
zombieLISKlizard You're looking at it the wrong way. People pay for their ticket BEFORE they see the movie, not after. People were excited to see a new Episode in the Star Wars story, and Episode 8 absolutely failed at being a good movie. Just look at its reviews. After that, people got so fed up with Disney, they're done watching their movies.
I have to partially agree with you, tho. People did want to see Episode 8, but even if it was a success, I just don't see myself going to see Solo at all. It's just not as interesting as Rogue One.
@zombwhatever: Not only do you not understand what the term "triggered" means but you don't understand what is happening the SW universe.
Last Jedi is a MONUMENTAL loser. Solo was just a WORSE MONUMENTAL loser. Disney is losing an AVALANCHE of money on their purchase of the franchise.
There was no formal boycott. It is just the SW fan base just flipped off Disney back after Disney flipped them off in movie content, character development, SJW and most importantly -- DIRECTLY INSULTING those fans.
It's not fatigue, it's not marketing, it's not other movies, it's not production issues. It's the decline in quality and the shitting all over fans. I now draw much greater pleasure from video essays documenting the rapid decline of star wars than from star wars movies themselves.
Carlos Lopez Did u just assume this person's status as a fan?! HOW DARE YOU!!! To the gulag with u. Jk 😆
Hate to say this but, Star Wars is dead. It's broken beyond repair since The Force Awakens/The Last Jedi made the Original Trilogy pointless. There's no hope left for this beloved series. Disney, LucasFilm and Kathleen Kennedy have destroyed something people have cherished.
Master Vidxad 58 I had to watch my father die inside while watching that film. I'm with you. It all needs to burn until Disney sells the franchise to another company at least.
Master Vidxad 58 no, not dead. The new stuff is dead yes, but the OT lives on forever!
Master Vidxad 58 yeah, episode 9 has too much of a hurdle to leap, to try and stay cohesive with Last Jedi, and repair the damage, it can't be both. Episode 9 will be a colossal failure, like the industry hasn't seen before. The lead up to it will be particularly embarrassing for everyone, it will be cringeworthy when the trailer comes out.
The new stuff is dead the OT and EU will continue to live on. Honestly the only thing Disney has to do is to announce the Disney trilogy is non Canon set in another universe
Ur TheDuke No, I refuse to accept that trash as canon. The original trilogy will always be Star Wars for me. It won't be marred by any of the fetid effluvia Disney is trying to push.
Who hasn't seen some nasty craps? But that doesn't stop us from enjoying the food we eat.
KK is out there! She can't be bargained with. She can't be reasoned with. She doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and she absolutely will not stop! Ever!... Until Star Wars is dead.
Veritas Is that a mummy reference?
Eric Escobedo beat me to it 😂. Great movie, BTW!
Let's speed that up, shall we?
#BoycottIX
Eric Escobedo 😀 Terminator reference. Kyle Reese said it to Sarah Connor.
Make Star Wars Great Again th-cam.com/video/8H3wUZMS4M0/w-d-xo.html
George Lucas said “People don’t understand. It’s NOT about spaceships and laser guns “
Disney said “Well we are making it about SJWs”
Fans said “Nope”. I would rather play with my old action figures. “
Me- “ I could’ve made a better film WITH Action Figures “
Lol true
Peple being dumb and saying the prequels suck Because it isn't space ships and blasters and has actually backstory that adds to the lore people saying the prequels suck are directly responsible for the lazy rehashes and the sjw Crap isn't helping
Robot Chicken already did
@Apollo De La Vega Hmm, guess we are ignoring the politics and division that lead to the downfall of a galactic power... That didn't happen...
My GF watched Ghosbusters with me at home and she couldn't even watch half of it. She loves the original and hated the remake. If she hated it I was wondering who they made the movie for lol. Same thing is now happening to Disney Star Wars and its sad to watch.
JubeiSenpai she's a keeper! wife her.
Hmmmmm, I don't really know either about GB. I think little kids, in particularly girls enjoy it. The key is the original GB had that blend of adult and kid. GB II and the reboot, went for the kids, but wanted to entertain adults.
I watched the remake of Ghostbuster with my girlfriend too. She hated the whole movie even more than I did. Btw. TLJ was a piece of shit.
JubeiSenpai because most women are not Borg and you can't fool them by serving them a shitty movie while saying "but look it has veganas in it, you also have a vegana, you will love it". I personally feel like it is more insulting to women then anything.
ur right Sempai, original GB was fun & had great chemistry between the actors & characters along with a great storyline. New one had poor story, bad acting & poorly developed characters. It was basically made with hope to sell a bunch of crappy merchandise to little kids, they just forgot about those who buy that merchandise for the kids also sit in the theatre with them.
Original GB was cool & fun just like original SW, and that what's missing with both. Marvel figured that out, and while I'm already tired of all the marvel movies coming out (whats next a, plumber that unclogs toilets w powers?), but at least the characters that continue being developed throughout the interconnected movies are enough to have me continue coming back to watch some of them.
Advice for Round Head Rian - You better spend under $100 mil on your new Star Wars film if you want it to make money. You've painted a target on your back and as soon as we see your name on the film, we're going the other way.
*Potato Head.
Make that every film post-TLJ
The way he treats the fans? Good luck getting butts in seats when they see his name plastered on a film
His name on a film is now basically a skunk stain that stinks for miles around it.
Wah!
ANY FILM HE IS ATTACHED TO.
I bet when Kathleen Kennedy finally steps down, it will somewhat be blamed on fans as though she was the best thing to happen to the franchise
Rj is the only person who should apologize to the actor that has the misfortune of portraiting Rose Tico.
Disney are playing dirty now! After the huge boycott of Solo they are playing the race card 5 month after TLJ! Cheap move.
placid renegade It's not Disney, it's Lucasfilm's. These movie studios have full control of what they do and Disney's part of things is to fund them technically I guess.
What's a race card? Is it like a Visa or does it make your car go fast...in a race?
Kevin McDonald What's white privilege? I've heard much about it and as I white person it sounds great. Too bad I dont have that privilege.
@@CoDinksYT its not z real thing
I'm not angry anymore. I'm done.
Welcome to the IM DONE FELLOWSHIP. Our money is our money. LOLSRYDISNEY
Are you actually not going to go.
Too many people are saying this then turning up to the big screen.
Yeah. Well at least we have Lucas' Star Wars and EU. Disney can just sell us merch from this point onwards.
I didn't go to cinema to see soft reboot. I didn't go to cinema to see an explanation for a plot hole that wasn't even a plot hole to begin with. I didn't go to cinema to get my expectations subverted. And I didn't go to cinema to see how much the space dice matter. I went to cinema to see Star Wars...and I got nothing. Well actually I got the Vader scene from the "plot hole explanation that even wasn't one" , that was something I considered to be a pleasant surpsise.
“If the franchise was able to survive Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, we have a hard time believing Last Jedi could have done that much damage."
Oh, yes. You better believe it, "experts". Disney could cover entire cities with posters and billboards promoting Solo, and people would still refuse to see it b/c of The Last Jedi.
The prequels are the greatest trilogy in history for the purpose of making memes.
The sequels have NOTHING.
Omegagoldfish True
Carlos: agreed 100%. People can say w/e they want about the prequels, but at least Lucas had a clear vision of the story that he wanted to tell. TLJ is a joke and it's not even funny (much like the "humor" in the film).
This quote shows perfectly why they failed: The upper management and analysts think they know how Star Wars works because they watched it once 10 years ago, without even knowing how exactly Rian Johnson messed it up. The fact that TLJ was compared to any SW movie other than the holiday special shows they just can't comprehend what's wrong with TLJ.
They think "oh yeah, it's got light sabers, a bit of space combat, and we even made some birds that are much cuter than the ewoks. It can't possibly fail and we'll sell cute bird plushies like crazy!!!".
RIP Star Wars
1977 - 2014
Died because of lazy writing, the absence of George Lucas, horrible movies, disrespect to fans, unbelievable franchise milking, bad business decisions, poor management of merchandise quantity, leftists agenda and "subverting expectations".
R.I.P Star Wars November 1976 - April 2014. Any post-April 2014 TV show, 2015 film and post-2015 film is imitation -SW- "Di$ney War$" garbage and should not be included in that timespan...
River Of Blacklights Thanks for the correction. I will edit the date of Star Wars death
Nicolas Tinoco How do I...say goodbye...to yesterdaaaay. 😢
You mean 1977 - 1999
^you mean George Lucas and team of competent writers
I've heard a lot of "official" reasons for Solo's failure, none of which are the actual reason it failed. The reason the movie failed had nothing to do with the movie itself. It failed because the previous movie was nothing but 2 hours of Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson ramming a bunch of SJW and feminist bullshit down the audience's throat. Surprise, the audience didn't like that! They came to the movie to GET AWAY from that garbage for a couple of hours, to escape into a galaxy far, far away.
It was that _AND_ that, instead of apologizing or remaining silent, they chose to lie about why their film was disliked.
Worse,when people said they disliked the film KK and RJ ATTACKED THEIR FANS.
I repeat they attacked the people they're trying to sell movies to
Well was it the fan backlash yes but the lead actor for Solo Lucus film pick was a big mistake too.
Well said +Roadstar1602!
Can you please share some links that show what KK and RJ said when they "attacked" their fans?
After thy killed off Han, I wasn't as interested in the Solo movie. They probably should have done the Solo movie before they killed off Han.
Just more proof they don't know what they're doing.
Sang Moon they should do it before the Last jedi.
My problem isn't that they killed off Han. It's that he died like a total idiot.
of course, he fucking trusts his son, what do you expect?
The killing off of Han Solo was never Kathleen. Harrison figured that Han's death would have served well in The Empire Strikes Back. It was Lucas who managed to talk Ford into staying with it, and the whole business of Carbonite freezing was written the way it was so that he could have been lost or thawed out dead. My problem with Force Awakens wasn't the overly emphasized diversity, nor Han's death. It was the entire concept of the planetary death base.
purple hair lady is pontless so much so i dont know her name
Admiral Hobo
Vice admiral gender studies
My sister will only acknowledge that name
Vice admiral gender studies
@Dmitriy Chernoshey This. God daum thats funny.
I call her "dol-do"
Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were criticized over some lackluster acting, dialogue, Jar Jar, etc. They were not offensive to most fans sensibilities and in no way took a dump on the original series.
FcK Jar Jar Fckn Binks … FcK him !!!
Fans know the difference between flaws in a movie and crapping on the franchise. All of the movies had their flaws, but TLJ crapped all over the franchise and the makers crapped all over the fans
Lucy Miller go easy on Jar Jar, as we found out it could be much worse than Jar Jar
Well I surely liked Evan McGregor's Obi wan , Mace windu , Anakin (despite the bad acting , count dooku and palpatine's character . I grew up liking them as the prequels get me into star wars just like countless young fans worldwide
I think mitichlorians qualified as taking a dump on the franchise, but ymmv
I felt bad for Jake Lloyd then and I feel bad for Kelly Marie Tran now. Whatever you think about their acting talent, no one could have done much better with the horrible material that was written for them. You can't give someone a piece of shit and expect them to carve it into a violin and play Mozart on it.
if that happened , it would sound like shit .
i support her.. writing suck
these 2 actors shouldn't have their lives destroyed because they weren't given much to work with...it's just wrong...
It's like how everyone hates Hayden but it was really just Lucas's shitty writing that ruined the character
Forgot to mention Hayden, yeah, He's done really okay with what he had to work with. I don't know anyone who can convincingly talk about hating sand and make it sound romantic.
I went from waiting in long lines to see any star wars movies to not even caring if I see Solo...Thanks Last Jedi
The Prequels were badly made. But they never ruined Star Wars for me. They're atleast a FUN kind of bad. You can bring friends over and watch the Prequels and you'd have a blast making fun of everything.
But the new movies aren't a fun kind of bad, they're a bland kind of bad. You can't get any enjoyment out of how bad they are, you just sit there in confusion.
Prequels=Batman & Robin
Sequels=Fant4stic
The sequels ain’t bad.
The prequels and sequels each have the exact opposite problems.
The prequels have great concepts, attempted something new, and attempt to really build the universe but suffered from Lucas's clunky/overly perfunctory dialog and his directing failing to guide even great actors. But overall, at least Lucas cared about connecting stuff and making the two trilogies align.
Nonetheless, the vast majority of its issues could've been easily cleared up by the employ of a more skilled screenwriter and a more actor-friendly (co-?)director.
The sequels, while having had directors much better at getting the most out of their actors and far snappier dialog (even if it often abandoned the '30s/'40s movie speak of the first 6 movies for more anachronistically contemporary-sounding lines) have virtually no world building or lore expansion -- just a repackaging of old ideas and SJW messages for undertones. The writers of the sequels don't seem to care about the prior two trilogies thematically, just how they can use it to make money and push their story not continue the characters narrative logically but shock value twists. They're basically glorified fan fiction.
>But overall, at least Lucas cared about connecting stuff and making the two trilogies align
I love the prequels but what bullshit. Lucas didn't even remember Leia had memories of her mother and he's the one who wrote both that scene and the one where Padme dies during childbirth.
Because that and Owen not remembering 3PO is such a big fucking deal in the grand scheme of the saga... : P (Even so, it's been kind of established in these movies that Leia's Force "specialty" is telepathy.)
the prequels main issues were the direction to make everyone wooden, and some pacing issues (frequent 15 minute politic/talking segments in an adventure film). I read the books and felt a LOT better about them.
The deathknells have issues because of terrible writing, pacing, plot structure and forced-politicing.
Litteral killing off of franchise favourites who somehow ended up as lifelong loosers rather than heroes/figureheads/matured-characters
luke backslid from being a self-confident hero in his prime into being a worried powerless hermit who tried to kill a student (and not only failed but failed so badly the student became everything he feared)
han had a kid then ~left~ to go back to being a low-grade smuggler with debt problems
Leia went from royalty to battle commander (of a desperate but hardened force), then mother, then a battle commander (of an abandoned and shunned splinter group).
plus new characters that go nowhere (there is ZERO character development, people turn up, they do things, then they show that the power was withing them all along. and i'm not just talking mary sue here either, poe, fin, akbar, vice-admiral problematic, rose none of them develop and many of them make sudden decisions that had zero lead-up).
Do not forget:
#Boycott9
YES
It's funny how they are trying to blame the crisis on racism....without realising that by implication they are saying that Star Wars originally became such a huge and wildly loved franchise because of racism.
Star Wars 5 Month Gap problem? Hmmmm...Thor Ragnorak to Black Panther= 3 month Gap. Black Panther to Infinity War= 2 month gap. MCU had 3 films in 5 months that have grossed over 4 Billion Dollars combined. MCU has released 19 films in 10 years and they are making more money now, than when they started.
Green Man If you give the fans what they want and have a sense of continuity, you can't really go wrong. Plus they've had many films to perfect the formula. Star Wars should've just stuck to what has worked for 40 years. Disney wanted to change it into something it wasn't to appeal to the largest demographic possible and they tried to do it in a very short space of time because Star Wars is just another cashcow. The only business I like to see fail, is big business. Even at the expense of one of my favourite entertainment franchises.
Green Man the Gap is only important If the movies are doing bad. You need to give people time to forget the trauma of a bad movie, but a good movie could have an output rate as Quick as they can produce It, and people will see.
Those movies aren’t all the same genre and series, like SW.
Apples to oranges.
That’s why I hate Marvel, if I watch a movie I don’t want to have to watch 20 other movies to understand it.
A lot of people don’t like Marvel because of that, children like it because of that.
Silenced, and people watch Star Wars just to "understand" that being a white heterosexual male is the worst thing to be in the universe. Marvel doesn't degrade their fans and their movies are creative. Star Wars attacks and insults their fan base, and their movies are extremely flat. Star Wars has brought zero creativity to their movies. They've simply been living in the past, or if they try something new, it's either horrible, or a smack in the face of their base. The only thing keeping Star Wars alive, is nostalgia and that is the only thing Disney has kept in their movies and without it, they would be flatlining.
How does diversity inherently improve anything? These are the same people that also say that there are no noteworthy genetic or mental differences between any race or gender. So how does diversity improve anything if it doesn’t add anything “new”.
Spencer Whiteway
True. It's SJW logic I suppose. Also Star Wars has always been diverse. Species from across the SW Galaxy have always been represented lol.
Good luck getting the left to answer that question honestly. It is just a bit too racist to truthfully say, "We want diversity of colour because we hate white people".
I don't see them complaining about how any Japanese or Latin made film are filled exclusively with Japanese or Latin folk respectfully.
But as soon as a Caucasian made film is filled with a exclusively or even just mostly Caucasian cast, _Ring the fucking sirens baby!!_
When they talk about diversity, they sure as hell don't mean diversity of you know ways of thinking or belief. Only race and gender. Which last i check. What makes a good character is their personally and well character. Not what is inbetween their legs.
TheSharpenedPen What "white" countries are you talking about? Your delusional.
Their job is to make a movie, not end "bullying" or actual valid criticism.
I have a hard time just looking at these two’s faces.....
Adventurer
Dude I was casting it to my tv lol giant-ass 30 inch Ree-an face plastered on the screen was terrifying
Adventurer same here. Watching on my phone and I had to flip the screen around so I didnt have to look at their evil, taunting, name calling faces.
Rian's did a great job TLJ is great
Ofer Mizrahi you clearly dont know what makes a movie great if thats what you think.
Uriah Siner You got some balls. I would not dare, i'm afraid that i would throw an ashtray at my TV screen :(
Despite your video gaining half a million views this week, and thousands of likes and comments, the media still calls us a "handful of trolls" and a "vocal minority". Desperation has never smelled so obvious.
its hard to believe that at this point they keep claiming its a minority and try to use any other excuse for the poor results of Solo, agreed it never smelled so obvious
A local minority wouldn't be able to muster up enough of a resistance;) toake star wars economically infeasable
its not only his viewers .... you seriously didnt get it ?
Wait until the Ocean's 8 remake comes out, they'll double down on the desperation to the point of destruction.
No other Star Wars movie has been based on toxic feminism and SJW politics. Nor has any other Lucas film president said “f” the fans to trigger the fans saying “f” you back and close their wallets. My wallet is closed and it will stay closed as long as Kathleen Kennedy is at the helm.
My wallet is closed until Disney has a complete turn around on all avenues. It won't be good enough for me for them to lay off the SJW post modernism in Star Wars alone.
Only Disney Star Wars film i loved was Rouge one. Maybe because a normal director made it. Praise Gareth Edwards
Yeah, Rogue One was amazing!
Szproto Garett Edwards didn’t shove SJW propaganda down our throat, none of the characters were perfect unlike... Rey...
To be honest, Rogue One team was diverse but I didn't feel that fact at all when watching that movie, and only when I read some comments, I realized that they were....
Rogue One doesn't suffer from those things, but it's not a good movie.
I only like the last half and Vader scenes.
Forgive my scepticism, but...does anybody else think that the timing of Kelly Marie Tran's departure from Instagram is a little *too* convenient? She just happened to receive enough abuse after Solo - *a movie that she wasn't even in* - bombed, rather than all the shade flung at her character when TLJ was still the hot topic? They've taken lying, false accusations, and double standards from feminism...are we *really* that surprised that they'd take the victim complex too?
... And they said George Lucas destroyed Star Wars. 1: At least he damn well tried. 2: He allowed people to expand on the canon (and even said some things were officially what happened after the movies, Mara Jade and Grand Admiral Thrawn being two things worthy of note) and 3: He did NOT insult the fans who mattered... Which was practically the majority. 4: ... He listened... And he did his best. If it wasn't for the fans, Jango Fett would not have appeared in episode 2. Again, say whatever you want about the prequels, you could feel that there was genuine effort there!
Aussieroth7 no matter how bad people think the prequels were at least they were meant to be Star Wars.
Aussieroth7 Plus he okay'd a bunch of awesome videogames that expanded the canon and made us appreciate some otherwise unknown characters.
Again, Lucas himself said some of those games were Canon... Including Starkiller, Thrawn and Mara Jade....... I think Kyle Katarn as well.
For someone who was "So dedicated to realizing [George's] dreams", she pretty much just tossed it all into a fire.
If I had to choose between soylo or avengers infinity war again, I would choose avengers infinity war still
Nelo Wolf why not both?
Nelo Wolf Thats not even a valid argument .
Nelo Wolf if I had to choose solo or the notebook, I’d watch the notebook 😂
Tjag420 cause one is better than the other
JonnyCinco true
Phantom Menace was a million times better than The Last Jedi.
Pus is a million times better than bloody diarrhea.
The lightsaber battle alone was better than anything Disney has done. 🤷🏽♂️
mark giarrusso It was very well choreographed .
I can sit down and watch the prequels anytime, no problem. I only saw TFA and TLJ once in theaters. Never saw them on TV. I only watched Rogue One through TH-cam clips.
Hanshotfirst6688 Enter Pod racing .
Just joking , even pod racing had a genuine reason than canto bight
Everyone is talking about the poor actors and how everyone is attacking them. But I don’t remember anybody back in the day defending jake loyd and Hayden Christensen who suffered the same or more harrasment. Maybe it is because there was no social media but still, there was the same or even more attacks to those two. The media is so stupid.
Jeff Sol
Makes sense.
Jeff Sol but the person who played Jar Jar was black...
KK's face on Kate Hudson's body made me throw up a little.
KK makes me nauseous. End stop.
*The original 3:* loved them.
*The prequels:* they were okay but hands down best action and best light saber battles.
*Rogue One:* Fantastic film with some plot problems.
*The Force Awakens:* nostalgia love, cant wait to see what they do with Ray.
*The Last Jedi:* Total garbage and destroyed any good story going forward.
*Han Solo:* Could have made it as a non Star Wars film but missed the mark big time.
*End result:* The Last Jedi should be made uncannon Literally a do-over like they did with Highlander 2.
Remember these are my personal opinions and most likely do not reflect how you enjoyed them.
There’s too much riding on this series for the studio not to go through with Episode 9. And it will be disastrous.
Buzz The Buzzard Highlander 2 is a good point of comparison.
I actually entirely agree with this. Watching back the prequels only the action and lightsaber fights are truely amazing, the rest okay or bad except for Ewan McGregor, he was amazing. Thoroughly enjoyed Rogue One, Force Awakens wasn't that good, but it did a good job of setting op a potential banger as a second movie... and then the monstrousity that is TLJ came out... wtf....
Josky nobody is saying don't do 9, what I am saying is redo 8.
Should change it to how to kill the star wars franchise in 2 hours 32mins
tony garcia i already saw that movie... the Last Jedi!
Carlos Ortega my condolences
Even though it took only 15 minutes for Ruin Johnson to lose all its credibility by having a mary poppins yal scene !
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True that. Was the first movie I sat through facepalming myself every couple minutes.
I feel bad for Kelly Marie Tran. It's tough for an up and coming actress to break into a harsh business, especially when your first major role is as an uninteresting, unnecessary character in a terrible film. Made worse by that idiot Johnson antagonizing the fans and ignoring his own faults. To steal a quote from Bob Hoskins 'The director's arrogance was mistaken for talent.' I hope Tran will be all right, and I hope Johnson gets his head out of his ass, but that doesn't seem likely.
We are *Not* a small number...
yeah you kinda are
Solo box office earnings is a very small number....in the negative.
Jedi Bunny we are legion!
Our Number is Legion Our Name is Death
Stephan Connor the 46% of us that don’t like Last Jedi is some proof that we might be the majority.
Ive seen better StarWars Fanfilms sadly
The prequels weren’t great, but didn’t sink the franchise because the problems weren’t SJW agendas. People don’t want that shit in their movies or a SJW in charge of any of it.
it's now open season on fans to defend star wars and to turn Kelly Marie Tran into victim of star wars fan.
now since 2015 i was called racist and sexist because i supported bernie sanders over hilary clinton.i have no time for these turning fans into villains.and people at lucasfilm has been bashing star wars fans for not liking the last jedi
Solo should have been written from the cocky over confident alpha male stereotype angle, that of which they do not understand, irony in motion, people.
Exactly! Nothing about the trailers or movie that I've seen/heard makes me believe that the guy they show is Han Solo. You can't rewrite and cast Han as some short beta male character trying to find his way in the world. He is the definition of an over-confident alpha male and anything less would be uncharacteristic of him. #notmysolo
Great idea, the irony could be that being over cocky causes problems.
He wasn't a hero until the end of the original trilogy, so he would have made a ton of selfish decisions that had him end up in a cantina doing deals with Jabba. It literally writes itself.
Attack of the clones and the Phantom Menace did not mock fans And tell them to eat shit. The last Jedi was the worst movie I have ever seen. It was disgusting and not kid friendly. It’s the last thing I would ever want in a Star Wars movie and I would have preferred that they not even made it. Who gets their kicks off of mocking the original characters Only to make them do things that they would never do. The things that they made these characters do were Embarrassing and insulting and quite frankly repulsive. It was a no go to solo for me and episode nine will never be mine!! 👍🏼Save your money everyone this franchise is dead to me
If The Last Jedi is the worst movie you've ever seen, then you haven't watched enough movies to form an objective opinion on filmmaking.
The milking scene was repugnant on so many levels
Disgraceful movie
Gavin Felan it's not the worst I've seen, but it's really far up there.
Gavin Felan You don’t know me! Don’t judge me based on my opinion of TLJ. The story, politics, and insults packaged into TLJ has formed my opinion of the overall story, characters, and what RJ purposely tried to do. Let me be clear here, some of the cinematography, affects, and music was appealing so I can see where this was better than some movies. There ARE indeed a lot of horrible movies out there but NONE that has affected me more personally in a negative way than this steaming pile of crap!
We are suffering from horrible movie (TLJ) fatigue, insult the fans fatigue, not following Star Wars lore fatigue, destroying our favorite characters fatigue, uninteresting new characters fatigue etc. but not too many Star Wars movie fatigue. If they made a Star Wars movie every year and it was at least decent or better and followed the established Star Wars lore I would look forward to watching every one of them. I would never get tired of seeing good Star Wars movies.
Nailed it! yes despite some minor foibles was having a blast each December until TLJ happened. :(
Star wars is failing as a whole because TLJ sucked! Too me it made Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones look good by comparison. Even my kids(12 and 14) did not want to see Solo after TLJ sucking so bad.
Your an idiot and s part of the problem the prequels where brillant but you low iq sheeple wanted space ships and blasters not story so you deserve these terrible retrashes its people like you Disney makes money off
Exactly!
Man, we are not alone. There are plenty of fans around the world that share the same sentiment and see what is happening. Or else Solo would have bombed only in the US. Let's keep it up people, this is not over yet!
The fact that we live in a time where constructive criticism is considered "harassment" makes me wanna cry.
Cry with me
#BoycottIX
Its a tactic from the Anita "The Whiney Bitch" Sarkeesian playbook.
And it's socially acceptable.(For some fucking reason.)
I've seen if for a few years in the media now, not just with Star Wars either. I've seen writers, showrunners, actors and PR spokespeople for TV shows acting like arrogant narcissists who simply won't tolerate any criticism from members of the public.
There's a sci-fi show in the UK called Doctor Who and they've been like this for over 10 years.
It's actually quite fascinating because it certainly didn't seem to be like this before the middle of the 2000s. It seems to have become more evident during the rise of social media. Social media must do something to people's brains and turn people who already have a large ego into petulant nutcases.
They seem to think the internet is just for them to promote themselves and their own work and feel that the only feedback the general public ought to respond with is glowing praise.
If people don't criticise things then things just don't get better and improve, because the feedback wouldn't be there to help them remedy their shortcomings. If they were smart then they could recognise that much of the criticism is useful and helpful.
It can't carry on like this because there will be a breaking point. A point will be arrived at where the media will have to stop looking down at the public as if they're excrement on their shoe, otherwise the public will outright reject them.
So true.
I didn't see Solo because I feel that movie role could only ever be played by Harrison Ford. Oh, and also because of the Clone Awakens, the Last Straw, and even Star Wars fatigue.
fuck i wish. Mr. Ford Had opened up his mouth then, and warned everyone, i
skeletorrobo I saw it the other day as I have MoviePass and it doesnt cost me shit extra to see. It wasn't a bad movie, but it really wasn't much to write home about. Just an average movie...... Which for it to have the Star Wars name behind, is mostly unacceptable.
Thanks for your review. I don't think I'll end up watching it though, partly because when I was growing up, I thought Harrison Ford was the greatest actor (Indiana Jones, Han Solo). So I can't bring myself to watching this one.
Maybe if it were about a new character, for instance, I could've given it a try. At the end of the day however, Disney has failed terribly with their new series and I have lost interest in seeing subsequent releases.
Harrison Ford must really love that the franchise died right after Han did.
its amazing how youtube can shit on one movie for 7 months straight. i enjoy these videos because johnson, kennedy and disney fully deserve it.
Not having ever looked at Ms. Tran's Instagram account, I can't say how bad the comments people have posted on it really were before she deactivated her account. At any rate, it's a distraction. Rumors are flying that Kennedy may be departing as early as September-if true, it's probably because Disney needs time to find a suitable replacement and come up with a plausible excuse for her termination that will let her save face.
Well fuck your "come out right" it sounded just fine.!
SO far, all we know is that her Instagram account was deactivated. I haven't seen whatever was posted on there, or any official statement by Ms. Tran or her agent as to why it was taken down. Johnson seems to be just reacting and trolling as always.
The Wilk Report Wouldn't matter who Disney gets to run the ship after she's gone, it's already on the verge of sinking at any moment now and all the once loyal crew members (fans) have abandoned it long ago.
I wish deadpool also traveled back in time to 2012 to when lucas was about to sell it to disney and either shot bob iger or told lucas that people would actually appreciate the prequels and actually wish he was back.
Mutale Mwananshiku prequels actually had a good and consistent story. They suffered from trying to answer the questions no one was asking and from empty filler moments but actual story arc was meaningful and interesting.
New movies have more plot holes than actual plot, story makes no sense, OT is devalued in the most awful manner possible and filler was not only omnipresent it was also disgustingly boring.
Lucas made a big mistake and I think he regrets it deeply because he actually cared about the stories he created.
MrRavellon Politics in the prequels: Very long winded, detailed, intricate, greatly relative to the story, and complex. Just a bit too much for a lot of people making it kind of boring.
Politics in the Last Jedi: Lelz let's throw in a political scene with the level of awareness of a 5 year old with no great importance to the story.
kenneth leo Or:
Prequels: This is how democratic system can be subverted and turned into tyranny by manipulating the fears of the populous and promising them safety in exchange for a little bit of freedom. Do try not to fall for such tactics in real life.
Sequels: Nazis = bad; anti-Nazis = good. Men = evil or useless, women = good and smart. Hurr durr. Also, if you don't blindly follow orders you are a dum dum. Or a hero. Depends on who gives the orders, our guys or other guys.
The prequels were like a child doing a colouring book. All the lines were drawn, Lucas simply had to colour them. Yes, he used the wrong colours, and yes, he went outside the lines a lot. And I mean a lot. To the point where it looks like not so much a child has done it but someone with the 'mind of a child', so to speak. Still, his heart was in the right place in spite of his incompetence and we now look (somewhat, maybe) lovingly on that child's picture hanging there on the fridge. Doesn't make it good, certainly doesn't make it art but compared to the cold, cynical Star Wars of today?
Man, I never thought seeing a star wars bomb. 😞
Havent seen episode 1?
Darkness1984. Not a fair comparison. Episode 1 made money, spawned best selling books, games, and toys. Solo movie toys are already in the Wal-Mart clearance aisle!
Not saying episode 1 was great, but its far better than this crap.
Too big to fail strikes again..
+Darkness1984 No Star Wars movie has ever come near the bad results of Solo. The very first one ran in theaters for almost one whole year(!), and then got shown again for some time when Empire Strikes Back got released. Now we have a SW movie that got worse results in the first weekend than Deadpool 2 in its second weekend - and Deadpool 2 is made for a far smaller audience and with a smaller budget.
Episode 1 wasn't great but it's still much better than at least 3 of the 4 Disney SW movies - I admit I kinda liked Rogue One, but that's the only little highlight in a pile of disappointments.
We gonna really need Episode IX to fail (and I'm pretty sure it won't cross the billion mark) to this people wake up? Fine by me, I have no intention of seeing that movie in theaters or paying to see it. Not even because of a principled boycott against Disney to send a message, but because it's coming from the worst set-up for a finale ever (Infinity War and Empire Strike Backs, that is how you set-up a finale), all the characters I love are either death and disgraced or are a joke (Chewie, R2-D2 and even C3-PO) and what left are this garbage uninteresting undeveloped SJW caricatures, the villain sucks and the best part. They hire back the fucking "mystery box" guy that didn't produce ONE SINGLE satisfying finale in his entire career to write and direct this film. That's here is a receipt to "greatness" obviously.
Really, who the hell is excited to see Rey's kick Kylo Ren's butt for the third time with her vagina powers?
It will make 75 Million curiosity Dollars Opening weekend,then when the spoilers get out "which no one cares if they do." and word of mouth spreads as to what actually happens in the movie! it will bomb so bad it will make Ishtar look like a box office Hit of Titanic proportions which could be the best thing ever imagine Star Wars being an indy Film again with a limited budget by a small company that has to make a traditional fairy tale work in order to succeed might be the best thing for Star Wars!
75 million I think is to low, I would bet a 150 million opening weekend and a 70% drop or something closer in the second weekend. Won't cross 400 million domestically and probably won't cross 1 billion worldwide. If they get something worse than that I will be extremely happy, the dissatisfaction will be a lot bigger than I'm thinking. I guess it's will depend's on the overall quality of the movie too, but I bet this movie will no come close to VIII.
I don't think many people understand that Disney don't actually mind if Star Wars fails. To them (and others) it was a bit of an outsider to begin with. They've always wanted to emulate its genuine success. What better way to surpass it than by acquiring and destroying it? It's sad in some ways, but then again... I guess it was bound to happen, especially since they felt they had the largest audience base at their disposal and they could go ahead and promote their nefarious agenda with it, failing to grasp that people will never accept those things.
'At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another.' Titus 3:3
Fire Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson into the sun.
Kenny Powers Star Wars has a new superweapon, capable of eradicating whole universes.
The Disney Star
Robert Beisert
Thats no moon
Thats concentrated failure
Kenny Powers
A black hole would be more fitting.
A GIANT black hole with two smaller black holes on the top edge.
"Fire Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson into the sun."
Elon Musk might be a big enough Star Wars fan to save some space for the next Falcon Heavy test flight...
"oops, seems the rocket got a bit off the trajectory. My bad."
We didn't buy him as Solo because he's so different. You're never gonna convince me a donkey is a horse no matter how much screen time it gets.
Black Mormon he was actually pretty good. I broke the #SoloBoycott and saw it on Tuesday. 6/10
In this instance, though, he's just an ass.
I liked Alden, but I agree, he should’ve played a completely new character.
Carlos Ortega good for you for breaking the boycott. But why would I or anyone else. When the management and employees spit in the customers face.
Black Mormon what about a mule
I feel like Rian Johnson, Kathleen kennedy and the last jedi was like the chernobyl nuclear disaster in the star wars universe. Its currently so radioactive you don't want to go anywhere near it.
Don’t forget about jar jar abrams
Can’t wait to hear the boooss.
WeekendParty __ jar jar? Don’t even compare jar jar to jj Abrams jar jar is way better than jj Abrams
Sabre Flurry and the toys are the all the old relics you don't want to touch
Carlos Lopez its called life support. Its going to take a lot to right the ship.
I'd say Star Wars fatigue is real, it's not just about films coming out too quickly one after the other, it's BAD films coming out to quickly one after the other.
so its actually shit films fatigue not star wars fatigue
Pretty much, there's only so much you'll want to go to see an instalment of a franchise if it devolves into something that is, at its best, sub-par.
This trend of blaming trolls when movies flop is getting worn thin already. Take responsibility of your forced identity politics or Gtfo.
I like how the shills have been reduced to comparing their sequel saga to the prequels. And even if we make that unflattering comparison, it turns out the prequels were less awful than the soulless husk that is Disney Star wars.
I'm not going to praise the prequels for being better than Disney Star Wars. They are still deeply flawed films.
Best joke of 2018
Rian saying he is a real star wars fan...
The same clown that does not understand the essence of star wars. Or how far his head is up his back side. But he is surviving by drinking from the cup of his own ego.
Holy shit, saying that Rian doesn't understand the ESSENCE of Star Wars and then trashing him for HIS ego?
You DO see the irony in this right? The guy made a movie you didn't like, no need to get pretentious over it.
Wtf is the "essence" of Star Wars? Rian Johnson made the most interesting Star Wars flick since Empire.
Carlos Lopez no he doesnt know jack shit about the mythos or the characters
TheRealness408
Yeah its really interesting how he threw away all the set up from TFA and retconned alot of things from the previous movies...
TheRealness408 LOL. Most interesting SW flick since Empire?? You're not confusing TLJ with Looper?
The Prequels were crappy movies... but The Last Jedi is a crappy movie that ALSO killed Star Wars excitement... almost universally. There are very few fans that are still excited about Star Wars after TLJ... and it goes beyond TLJ haters. People who thought it was okay, or who even liked it have less enthusiasm about Star Wars after that movie.
Think about that for a minute. Even people who LIKED TLJ left the movie with no enthusiasm for what comes next. It's like a Star Wars appetite suppressant. Now THAT's a bizarre, and difficult thing to do, and somehow Rian Johnson pulled it off. That's why people think he killed Star Wars more than Lucas or Midichlorians or Jar Jar ever could.
You are so right. I didn't walk out the cinema hating The Last Jedi, (that came later) but I did leave thinking that would probably be the last time I went to watch a Star Wars film at the cinema. Which is never something I thought I'd ever feel....
I like the prequels - there is a solid through plot through those films - hammy dialog, a few dubious casting choices don't ruin that and don't lie to yourself you know you were super stoked the first time you saw the phantom menace. As for Solo - I think its a case of a story no one cared about. TLJ just isn't a good film
I think you summed it up better than most. For all The Prequels (numerous) faults, they did not really taint the OT or damage the fandom like TLJ has.
I don’t understand the delusion of people saying the prequels were bad. The majority people love Obi Wan, Darth Maul, the lightsaber duels etc yet they don’t like it? Lol gtfo
Carlos sorry to break it to you, but people thinking the prequels are a steaming pile of horseshit is a thing.
Seriously. Sit and think about TLJ & AoTC.. Clones is literally a blast in comparison to TLJ.
RFSA180 exactly, at the very least, when compared to The Last Jedi, Attack of the Clones has a coherent plot and actually attempts to do universe building and set up the next movie.
I've enjoyed the prequels, AoTC included, as much as the OT.;
Comparing AoTC to TLJ is a crime.
bottom line: They F'd up star wars with PC SWJ BS and now nobody cares about the franchise anymore..
Ruin johnson talking about respect..... Lol
what do you expect to accomplish by attacking fans for any reason? Do they actually think they can guilt the fanbase into supporting their films? They need to quit while they're behind
I'm just annoyed. No reasonable person is against diversity or inclusion. It is just blatantly obvious and is counter productive. There's a difference when the characters are well written and actually have purpose greater than diversity. Again no one is mad that Rose was an asian woman. People are upset that Rose's character was pointless and felt forced for the sake of "diversity". People are upset that Lando Calrissian is pansexual because it changes the star-wars lore and was just an unnecessary addition (also if a massive portion of the audience are children why would you add sexual themes?). A common theme here is that people aren't upset that there is "diversity", but more of the fact that this "diversity" adds no value to the films and feels forced and in my opinion disingenuous. Personally I feel that being disingenuous is almost more harmful to their "diversity" cause than someone being downright racist. Because by being disingenuous about it you not only exploit the "diverse" people but come off like a liar to everyone else. The only way these people can redeem themselves is take full ownership of the situation and stop dancing around the obvious issue, which again isn't that people are intolerant or racist, but that their movie was poorly written, had an offensive amount of plot holes, and wasted all the potential from Force Awakens.
Potential from Force Awakens? What potential, that film was dry. Not as dry as TLJ but still dry.
When Rowling announced that Albus Dumbledore was gay, I was like, "Alright," because the simple fact is it didn't negatively impact anything and it even gave a partial reason why he didn't see the dark side of Grindelwald's agenda. When Kathleen decided that the best way to build off the setting was to bury the setting, kill it if she had to, that said it all. It's NOT Star Wars! It hasn't been since Force Awakens. It's a twisted revenant someone cross-dressed and shoved out into the public view.
I’d rather watch 10 hrs of Jar Jar and another 10hrs of pod races, then the raping of Luke’s character in The Last Jedi
Katherine Kennedy lied to George Lucas about respecting the original trilogy characters, that is so messed up!
When I saw the trailers for Last Jedi, it looked amazing, but it was also a lie. Tricking fans into thinking Luke was back and ready to be the Jedi we all wanted. I would have loved to see the movie based on the trailer. They keep saying that the sequel trilogy is about bringing the Skywalker story to an end. That is pretty much a lie, same way that Rian Johnson thinks his movie is good..... nope.
No offense, but "The Jedi must come to an end" was said in the trailer by Luke. There was no trick. There was subterfuge. Rian gave us that Luke exactly.
The prequals aren't great, but they can be forgiven because they didn't ruin the originals the way last Jedi did. I went from being a die hard fan to despising the franchise...Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy can go diaf
It's sad that people like you are the ones ruining Star Wars.
Incessantly droning on and repeating the same talking points about how someone with a different idea than you "raped your childhood" based around a single entry in a multibillion dollar movie franchise that you've turned into a damn religion.
If you can't cope with the possibility of not enjoying something based off of something you generally like, you're laughably pathetic.
Gavin ur shilling this vid hard
Big Tree Combat Club found the sheep
The prequels are a masterpiece and even better than the original trilogy in my book the sequels aren’t even Star Wars so I’m not counting that
Travis Wiley well I'm sorry that you don't have an eye for any aspect of filmmaking that actually matters and would actually wait 30 years for a 60 year old fictional character to "do something cool" on the big screen. Apparently humanizing the character with a central theme of learning from failure, as well as a deconstruction on the necessity of the Jedi order, isn't good enough for your manchild tastes. Sad.
I love how this show opens like a PBS special, and then proceeds to be a hardcore video ripping into a beloved franchise that DEFINITELY needs to be ripped into at this point in time. I agree almost 100% with what you guys have been saying lately. What the hell have they done to Star Wars???
It's called post modernism. Jordan Peterson does a good job breaking it down about the rotting society that post modernism is creating.
Yes! I found out about Jordan Peterson from him being on a Joe Rogan Podcast, actually.
I hate rebels... the empire is incompetent in that show.
I couldn't even get into Thrawn on the show who's one of my favorite EU characters.
Scott Which is odd because Star Wars the Clone Wars, both of the T.V. shows, were quite dark and gritty, at least for a childrens shows.
*'How to FAIL at reading'* - How do you get "Concerns being dangerous" from "Comment being disingenuous" - which is what is written?
Mads Mikkelsen was wasted in Rogue one
I believe Campea had insight as to what the rumors are about Kennedy. So he jumped on it to get a video out there that he personally has the same views of her job performance as the fans who don't approve of her. Except his views, timing & reasoning about KK makes absolutely no sense with his stance on what Lucasfilm has always been up until that point. It isn't genuine.
The Jacobite I believe I understand this fandom toxicity Campea is talking about. It's literally right here on this channel .. congratulations on being a part of that.
Vincecouk Ok. Take care.
Yeah, he knows. I heard he got some close friends in the industry related to Lucasfilm, that's why he did the video. A diehard Disney shill like John Campea won't simply give up on Kathleen Kennedy.
Once more the fans will rule the franchise!
Albedo if only we had ainz killing kylo he would crush the rebellion without a sweat
Sounds like Gamergate.
> iO9
> Former Gawker umbrella site
Oh wait
Web archive is too much effort if you just want to avoid giving advertising money to them. An adblocker will do it just fine.
Actually, that's not enough. Even with ad-blockers installed, the company uses visitor statistics to maintain relationships with their advertisers. You really should utilize the web-archive, which takes a minute to operate, or utilize adding the clickbait site to your Windows HOSTS file.
Solo would have done better if there weren't any trailers. The trailers showed big weaknesses in the story. I agree that Rian and Kathleen have ruined Star Wars. They have a left wing agenda and have completely ignored the Fans. Rian gets his thrills by going against the original message of Star Wars (Hope). This video is spot on. We are tired of the left agenda being crammed down our throats.
Ignored would imply they didn't insult them.
What you said is so true!
The only thing left to say is: help us dave feloni, your our only hope
I didn't not go because of the marketing. I stayed home because of who is in charge of Star Wars.
I did not go because it looked like it was going to suck. I found a version online and watched it. It sucked. Couldn't even sit through the whole thing.
Considering the track record of "feminist allies" i wouldnt be surprised if rian ends up accused of some rapey shenanigans sooner or later by the very feminist hes so eager to be a bootlicker for.
Wait until they make the Boba Fett Movie and he takes his helmet off...and he is actually a Trans woman with Purple Hair.
Oh wait..... they already did that with Star Wars Rebels.
DANGEROUS COMEDY wait what? Sabine is trans?
+Jewosaurus Rex no
6:41 "And yeah, I said 'keister'. I watched *_Home Alone_* recently. Get over it."
LOL I am dead!
Diversity by itself does not make anything better in film. Whoever is in the film is not the concern, I’ll love it as long as the story is amazing and the characters are well written!
When did criticism become “hate” and “outrage” and get you labelled an “ist” or “Nazi”? I think this tactic is to allow people like Rolling Round Johnson and Pablo Hildago to attack fans, because it’s okay once they label us as such.
the best 19 min rant I've ever heard! great job brotha
This is so depressing, the biggest movie franchise off all time is being turned to shit.
@14:25 "160.000 something people"
Nope, it's easily more, and that's only those that have a level of consciousness about their dislike of Star Wars. I talk to a lot of people who shrug their shoulders and say "for some reason" they are through with Star Wars and can't exactly put their finger on why that is.
I love Rian lashing out at the fanbase. He's giving the fans more and more reason to not watch his trash.
IO9 is part of Gawker media. They are also connected with Kotaku. Kotaku was the gaming website that kicked off Gamergate. In fact yesterday if you googled Star Wars there were nothing but hit pieces about how toxic the fans were. It would be a shame if Star Wars goes through what Gamergate did......but this time i think it's different. Solo already failed at the box office where in Gamergate the video games kept selling like hot cakes. This whole thing is interesting to watch. I believe the Main Stream Media are trying to make sure this new wave of SJW Star Wars movies is what stays in place........but if no one is buying movie tickets then they dont have a case. (kind of why the media didn't go after Marvel Comics for getting rid of their new SJW stories because they weren't selling)
RichmanthePizzaMan Gawker Media is like a nasty poisonous fungi that just spreads bad vibes whenever they're around.
Kelly Marie Tran is not the problem why would people harass her ... As for Rian "balloon head"Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy I will never watch another movie Produced or Directed by either of them and if they could get their heads out of there posteriors they would realize that they just f'd there career's up ! Oh well off to jobs better suited to them like janitorial staff of a projects building were they can serve the downtrodden minorities ... maybe it could be a learning experience for them both.
Nice video glad to see you spreading the truth....solo failed because the executives and people at the top of Disney are treating the fans like they don’t need them, they are smug, rude and insulting, and just like any other business I don’t want to spend my money there and a lot of people are with me.
That guy sure has a serious case of confirmation bias and ignoring the evidence. "If the franchise survived TPM and AOTC, we have hard time believing TLJ could have caused so much damage". A "hard time believing" that those films were actually better, and TLJ just ended up much worse? Not to mention the whole Internet battlefield, where the marketing team and crew members actively went for the fans to call them names and blame the audience? Pathetic.
We are gonna have to boycott episode 9 to prove the point