I play garnet cause she was my favorite character for one of my favorite shows, steven universe, finding out that she was a bruiser just made it better she does need a couple of improvements but she is still fun
@@Handsomefella911so why do you use her if she is that bad? makes no sense lol I don’t have main just for the reason that if I just focus on one character I’ll get bored easily so I have fun with each one
i'ma garnet main, and for me the biggest problem is her hurtboxes. she has unusually large hurt boxes which make her vulenrable to every infinite in the game and hard to break away with. tom and jerry in particular is a nightmare because any contact with their up grounded standard, even if you are attacking, will pretty much lock you into a spiral of pain. even walking into it normally. i've fought a number of tom and jerry players who after using it once started spamming the move like there's no tomorrow. not to mention the beetlejuice stun chain still works on her. she needs some sort of combo breaker tool.
I play Garnet because I love the character, I wish she had more defensive options cause she feels like a tank with even LESS defense that JASON, mainly because she can only get armor for her charged neutral. if she was changed from a brusier to a tank and given more armor on her charged moves, then maybe she'd actually stand a fighting chance against faster opponents
What i love about her Sair is that you can really delay the hits and switch directions (her jab also does this). You can throw out one punch and when someone approaches you to punish the whiff, fire the second punch. Bonus is if you only hit the second punch, the opponent bounces off the stage allowing you to combo. If both hits land this won't happen.
Garnet's down specual waas alot more useful during beta bc it would send opponents in the same path the star came from intead of now where its horizontal. That led to more angles. You could bounce opponents using unique star placements. kinda like playing pool/billards
Great video! Love this kind of content - I do have a few gripes with a few things tho (i like to rant) 0:56 Steven Universe being small is a big one, but Steven was pretty popular in patch one when he was S-tier. While I do think popularity plays a big part in play rates - MultiVersus has always had a disgustingly high amount of tier list players, and not that many loyalists. 4:11 is just objectively not correct - she has well below average air speed, and pretty much the worst jump in the game. 4:44 sing is just a bad anti-projectile move overall. pretty much every clip you show of it, she's getting punished - for freezing the projectiles. not to mention its been bugged since launched, and the anti-projectile zone doesn't move with her, and its super inconsistent about what it can stop. 5:30 Garnet applies electrified also on Up-special projectile, up-special zone gives shocked buff (applies electrified to enemies), up-special clap, and air up special. 5:57 Gotta disagree on the projectile. The hitstun is incredibly low, and it does 2 damage. I certainly wouldnt call it rewarding to hit. Big agree on the clap and side-special segment :) 9:00 With all due respect, I don't think Garnet should choose where it throws... you can already cheese really hard with the move and its not gonna be healthier if u can drag the opponent 2 meters from the blast zone across the entire stage at 0 and throw them into it. As for changes I reckon she needs - bugs/hitbox fixes: sing "hitbox", tipper jab doesnt work, heavy characters can fall out of down-attack,up-tilt, up-air, clap, and air up special are all SUPER duper inconsistent at being multihits. Down-smash ONLY hits GROUNDED grounded opponents (certain DASH animations make opponents jump over it?). And she needs intangibility on her limbs until like frame 2 of the hitbox being active (i think that should be a universal change for every character) - this is what holds her back in 2s so much rn. Up-special zone is actually useless except for the explosion. It does 0 damage (used to apply electrified to enemies standing inside it) and the buff from it applies +1 damage per hit and ends INSTANTLY upon leaving the zone? (Used to be +4 and last a bit in beta & the explosion gave another STRONGER buff). Sing is wayyy too slow to apply and is wayyy too laggy to be good. its so disappointing that a character who was almost low-mid tier the majority of the beta got worse combos, worse kill power, worse damage output, worse anti-zoning, worse hurtbox...
Great vid - I think it's still tweaks to her whiff and start up states. My personal QoL changes would be only two things: Speed up neutral special start up Revert up air trajectory to top of map vs horizontal
One of the reasons I don't think ppl are willing to try new characters anymore is because of the Lock-In Character feature making it so you can't swap characters between matches. Ie: you can't experiment with different strategies.
When rank first released, I played garnet until I got to rank 1 in 2s and rank 40 overall. The amount of games I lost while also teaming up with the rank 1 steven is insane. Around 80% of my games in gold were lost because I could not move at all, every other character could spam their abilities on me while I was just staring at my screen waiting for it to end.
Give her jab more either: more range, faster startup,or less recovery. Give her down attack an eruption like Black Adam's. Faster Neutral soecial startup, and add a stack of slow on enemies for walking into it.
Garnets up special projectile gives a buff to her grounded down attack if she stands in the circle. It increases the range and damage of the ground lighting a little bit
Two words. Pillow Hands. Takes too long to kill someone at high percentages. T-Pose doesn’t kill, jab smash doesn’t kill. All of her kill options don’t have shield anymore but require a full charge to kill.
Only 2 improvement Garnet need is some correction on the normal hitboxes ( some hit go trough ennemies and do not register) and A cooldown ability when the down special is on CD.
Shes definitely better now but she will always struggle with being outmatched by a lot of characters due to her size, attack speed on her jab (and in this game having a solid jab is extremely important), a lack of iad combos and movement speed. However the variety in her moveset somewhat makes up for a few things
Asking for any nerfs against Garnet in her current state is straight ludicrous. Honestly the only change I agree with here is her dodge going further. What she really needs is some real combos and a way to use down attack out of jab for resets and set ups. Her jab extensions really hold her back right now in their current state. I.e. her side jab extension used to have armor but now using neutral att after jab is better as it gains armor from a charge and kills more effectively than the side extension. Her down extension doesn’t set up for anything really so if that got deleted she would be so much better as her down attack can set up for combos and/or KOs. Almost forgot Lastly make her up extension more consistent for follow ups by either increasing the hit stun or advancing her jump cancel frames.
I consider garnets down special really strong with the marker perk for causing reversals off stage and improving her recovery. If people dont respect you using side special to place marker above ledge while you're recovering you can just command grab them and throw them straight into the blast zone.
Hey claods, i play alot of garnet in this awful game. You forgot to mention that standing in the up special field will electrify your fists. This makes the rythm stack perk quite viable. I believe im ranked 50 something in 2v2s
Why nobody plays garnet is mainly cause there a huge balancing problem right now you mostly only see the best character that need more endless start up and hitboxes reduced by cutting them in half but garnet she has endlag combos that kinda predictable since they have start up and not just feels instant or is just hard to deel with imo i doubt theyll buff her cause if there not gonna bring characters that need readjusting up they could just heavily nerf the other characters to where its equal
I believe a "character's popularity" plays a big factor here. Before Multiversus, i've never even heard of or knew about the existence of Garnet, and you can apply this to many people out there. For instance. take a new player coming into the game: they'll look at the roster and think "oh, i can play as BATMAN, or BUGS BUNNY", very well known and beloved characters for decades, and then look at Garnet and simply put her aside because, just like me, knows nothing about her. Is just as simple as that. Very different from someone like CAMMY, from Street Fighter, who not only was popular back in the day, but even grew on popularity during Street Fighter 5 and 6. Now don't get me wrong, i know some of you here knows, love and play her on the game, but many out there would rather have that spot been taken by some other character like THE MASK or SPACE GHOST, or even HAWKGIRL or BLACK CANARY if you prefer female ones. This is just to name a few who's popularity are way bigger than Garnet's, and some (or many) players will simply don't give a F* about her.
Yeah and also Steven universe is unbiasedly a hard show to watch for most who aren’t a kid, so kinda kills most of the multiverses fan base for it since it’s more teens and adults
Steven Universe is one of the most popular Cartoon Network shows of the 2010’s and is still popular to this very day. There are absolutely more people (both kids and adults) who recognize Garnet than you think.
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I play garnet cause she was my favorite character for one of my favorite shows, steven universe, finding out that she was a bruiser just made it better
she does need a couple of improvements but she is still fun
Because she actually takes skill compared to most the roster
True but she has overwhelming weakness
As I garnet main, she doesn’t take skill, she’s just bad so it’s skilled full to use her.
@@Handsomefella911 she doesn't take skill but she takes skill Handsomefella911
@@Handsomefella911 This is straight facts
@@Handsomefella911so why do you use her if she is that bad? makes no sense lol I don’t have main just for the reason that if I just focus on one character I’ll get bored easily so I have fun with each one
i'ma garnet main, and for me the biggest problem is her hurtboxes.
she has unusually large hurt boxes which make her vulenrable to every infinite in the game and hard to break away with. tom and jerry in particular is a nightmare because any contact with their up grounded standard, even if you are attacking, will pretty much lock you into a spiral of pain. even walking into it normally. i've fought a number of tom and jerry players who after using it once started spamming the move like there's no tomorrow.
not to mention the beetlejuice stun chain still works on her. she needs some sort of combo breaker tool.
I play Garnet because I love the character, I wish she had more defensive options cause she feels like a tank with even LESS defense that JASON, mainly because she can only get armor for her charged neutral.
if she was changed from a brusier to a tank and given more armor on her charged moves, then maybe she'd actually stand a fighting chance against faster opponents
Garnet should be able to control when they can blow up their up special just like Harley. So it’s not just something that’s just thrown out.
Yes
u can do this now
Thanks to me I had the idea before patch 😂😂
"Adventure Time has more fans than a more modern show like Steven Universe"
THERE WAS ONLY A 3 YEAR GAP!
Plus Adventure Time has had continuations with Distant Lands. It's more recent in terms of content released.
What i love about her Sair is that you can really delay the hits and switch directions (her jab also does this). You can throw out one punch and when someone approaches you to punish the whiff, fire the second punch. Bonus is if you only hit the second punch, the opponent bounces off the stage allowing you to combo. If both hits land this won't happen.
I actually like garnet as a character, but some improvements would be welcome
I’ve personally been seeing a garnet uprising in 2v2s.
Your videos are great man, I feel like these essay style videos have been what’s missing within the sea of gameplay TH-camrs.
Garnet's down specual waas alot more useful during beta bc it would send opponents in the same path the star came from intead of now where its horizontal. That led to more angles. You could bounce opponents using unique star placements. kinda like playing pool/billards
Great video! Love this kind of content - I do have a few gripes with a few things tho (i like to rant)
0:56 Steven Universe being small is a big one, but Steven was pretty popular in patch one when he was S-tier. While I do think popularity plays a big part in play rates - MultiVersus has always had a disgustingly high amount of tier list players, and not that many loyalists.
4:11 is just objectively not correct - she has well below average air speed, and pretty much the worst jump in the game.
4:44 sing is just a bad anti-projectile move overall. pretty much every clip you show of it, she's getting punished - for freezing the projectiles. not to mention its been bugged since launched, and the anti-projectile zone doesn't move with her, and its super inconsistent about what it can stop.
5:30 Garnet applies electrified also on Up-special projectile, up-special zone gives shocked buff (applies electrified to enemies), up-special clap, and air up special.
5:57 Gotta disagree on the projectile. The hitstun is incredibly low, and it does 2 damage. I certainly wouldnt call it rewarding to hit.
Big agree on the clap and side-special segment :)
9:00 With all due respect, I don't think Garnet should choose where it throws... you can already cheese really hard with the move and its not gonna be healthier if u can drag the opponent 2 meters from the blast zone across the entire stage at 0 and throw them into it.
As for changes I reckon she needs - bugs/hitbox fixes: sing "hitbox", tipper jab doesnt work, heavy characters can fall out of down-attack,up-tilt, up-air, clap, and air up special are all SUPER duper inconsistent at being multihits. Down-smash ONLY hits GROUNDED grounded opponents (certain DASH animations make opponents jump over it?). And she needs intangibility on her limbs until like frame 2 of the hitbox being active (i think that should be a universal change for every character) - this is what holds her back in 2s so much rn.
Up-special zone is actually useless except for the explosion. It does 0 damage (used to apply electrified to enemies standing inside it) and the buff from it applies +1 damage per hit and ends INSTANTLY upon leaving the zone? (Used to be +4 and last a bit in beta & the explosion gave another STRONGER buff).
Sing is wayyy too slow to apply and is wayyy too laggy to be good.
its so disappointing that a character who was almost low-mid tier the majority of the beta got worse combos, worse kill power, worse damage output, worse anti-zoning, worse hurtbox...
thanks for the feedback, i always just wanna improve my content so getting some actual feedback is very helpful instead of just "video sux"
Great vid - I think it's still tweaks to her whiff and start up states. My personal QoL changes would be only two things:
Speed up neutral special start up
Revert up air trajectory to top of map vs horizontal
One of the reasons I don't think ppl are willing to try new characters anymore is because of the Lock-In Character feature making it so you can't swap characters between matches. Ie: you can't experiment with different strategies.
What I would change on Garnet is make the together again skin free so I can use it, I think that would be a great change 👍👍👍
When rank first released, I played garnet until I got to rank 1 in 2s and rank 40 overall. The amount of games I lost while also teaming up with the rank 1 steven is insane. Around 80% of my games in gold were lost because I could not move at all, every other character could spam their abilities on me while I was just staring at my screen waiting for it to end.
Give her jab more either: more range, faster startup,or less recovery.
Give her down attack an eruption like Black Adam's.
Faster Neutral soecial startup, and add a stack of slow on enemies for walking into it.
0:23 Let's go, I'm in the video
Garnets up special projectile gives a buff to her grounded down attack if she stands in the circle. It increases the range and damage of the ground lighting a little bit
Two words. Pillow Hands. Takes too long to kill someone at high percentages. T-Pose doesn’t kill, jab smash doesn’t kill. All of her kill options don’t have shield anymore but require a full charge to kill.
I see alot of Garnets... 🤔
The 3d model is cool, but it's weird that it rotates throughout the entirety of the video and never changes
proud Garnet main here!! loved this vid
Me only ever playing Garnet
garnet has some of the best air combos in the game. love just comboing a person off the map 😭 reminds me of bayonetta in smash
garnet used to have more armor back in the beta.
you should show like the top leaderboards for the characters aswell
garnet's down special is way more useful than you are describing.
It's perfect for positioning, most people react trying no te be in the middle, as a Garnet secondary main, is so useful.
I use the perk where her side special automatically places her down special.
Manage get funny kill with this.
Yo, I'm a Stripe main and I feel like Stripe is super underepresented. Id love to see a video about why Stripe isnt played all that much!
Only 2 improvement Garnet need is some correction on the normal hitboxes ( some hit go trough ennemies and do not register) and A cooldown ability when the down special is on CD.
This is Garnet
Back together
You make good points, but still play her often and have fun with her
Garnet can cook, once more people unlock characters, I'll see more.
so never
Shes definitely better now but she will always struggle with being outmatched by a lot of characters due to her size, attack speed on her jab (and in this game having a solid jab is extremely important), a lack of iad combos and movement speed. However the variety in her moveset somewhat makes up for a few things
Asking for any nerfs against Garnet in her current state is straight ludicrous. Honestly the only change I agree with here is her dodge going further.
What she really needs is some real combos and a way to use down attack out of jab for resets and set ups. Her jab extensions really hold her back right now in their current state.
I.e. her side jab extension used to have armor but now using neutral att after jab is better as it gains armor from a charge and kills more effectively than the side extension.
Her down extension doesn’t set up for anything really so if that got deleted she would be so much better as her down attack can set up for combos and/or KOs.
Almost forgot
Lastly make her up extension more consistent for follow ups by either increasing the hit stun or advancing her jump cancel frames.
1:07 "modern" outside the controversial quality of the show it did end like 5 years ago
He's got into the garnet discord
Great video, i really enjoyed it
I love Steven and Garnet!! I hope they add pearl or amethyst
I consider garnets down special really strong with the marker perk for causing reversals off stage and improving her recovery. If people dont respect you using side special to place marker above ledge while you're recovering you can just command grab them and throw them straight into the blast zone.
I personally have been loving garnett
Despite dying to spammers and no skill characters(that means you wonder woman), Ill still stick by my girl garnet.
Pro garnets be doing shit I never think of bro
i see my main, i click da vid
She's easy to play in my opinion, she's a setup/spiker definitely gonna be the next character I unlock
Garnet was my main in the beta, but now she just seems so weak, it takes a while to eliminate with her
Hey claods, i play alot of garnet in this awful game. You forgot to mention that standing in the up special field will electrify your fists. This makes the rythm stack perk quite viable. I believe im ranked 50 something in 2v2s
garnet is one my fave characters
I'm tryna figure out why everybody plays Rick and Morty
Why no one plays Marvin
Reason 1: Bro doesnt kill before 350
Thanks for Watching
Been maining garnet since the beta. She just need some tweaks
Who’re you gonna do next? My guesses would be Jake or Marvin
Make a video about why one plays Reindog
I play Velma and garnet pls buff moves we use😭
Why nobody plays garnet is mainly cause there a huge balancing problem right now you mostly only see the best character that need more endless start up and hitboxes reduced by cutting them in half but garnet she has endlag combos that kinda predictable since they have start up and not just feels instant or is just hard to deel with imo i doubt theyll buff her cause if there not gonna bring characters that need readjusting up they could just heavily nerf the other characters to where its equal
Ive seen some nasty garnets ngl
can you also do a video about ''why no one plays multiversus''
lmao
I think its called bias...
Like Steven Universe is a cartoon that came out like a couple of years ago.
So it's fans are what, 14 year old now?
What do you think about Lebron? A lot of people say he’s low teir but he also just got nerfed.
yeah i have no idea why he got nerfed, the devs are smoking. they let joker stay broken while nerfing a bad character
🖐🏾 I play garnet 🥺
Pretty well actually too 👉🏾👈🏾
Dammit I guess i chose a wrong time to not play the game for a week
I just want better frame data if they ain't going to let her have a grounded game.
It's multiversus is set on have only having this a air combo game
Garnet
i agree
She’s nasty in 1s because no one knows how to play against her
just make a video about why no one plays multiversus
Tbh it’s probably cause she isn’t as good as she was in the beta.
I believe a "character's popularity" plays a big factor here. Before Multiversus, i've never even heard of or knew about the existence of Garnet, and you can apply this to many people out there. For instance. take a new player coming into the game: they'll look at the roster and think "oh, i can play as BATMAN, or BUGS BUNNY", very well known and beloved characters for decades, and then look at Garnet and simply put her aside because, just like me, knows nothing about her. Is just as simple as that. Very different from someone like CAMMY, from Street Fighter, who not only was popular back in the day, but even grew on popularity during Street Fighter 5 and 6. Now don't get me wrong, i know some of you here knows, love and play her on the game, but many out there would rather have that spot been taken by some other character like THE MASK or SPACE GHOST, or even HAWKGIRL or BLACK CANARY if you prefer female ones. This is just to name a few who's popularity are way bigger than Garnet's, and some (or many) players will simply don't give a F* about her.
Yeah and also Steven universe is unbiasedly a hard show to watch for most who aren’t a kid, so kinda kills most of the multiverses fan base for it since it’s more teens and adults
Steven Universe is one of the most popular Cartoon Network shows of the 2010’s and is still popular to this very day. There are absolutely more people (both kids and adults) who recognize Garnet than you think.
Cause Steve Universe sucks
Who the fuck plays this game anyways
You’re watching a video and commenting about the game
nobody likes this show