When They ALMOST Made The PERFECT Total War - Empire: Total War 2022 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Is Empire: Total War Worth it in 2022? This is perhaps the Total War game that changed everything in the series for better or worse, and symbolized a massive shift in the design of Total War games. Empire took the genre far into the future, into the age of colonial empires, and an age of gunpowder and naval battles.
But Empire also took, and made some design choices that most of the traditional Total War fans took issue with. In this video, we'll go through most of the aspects of Empire that matter, and look at how the game came so close to being a true masterpiece, yet ended up... a bit further away than we hoped. Let me know what you think of Empire: Total War in the comments :)
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there is nothing i want more than empire 2 to be the next historical total war, the global theatres and naval combat is all I want
Would love that!
There is something better tho: Medieval 3
@@alessiobenvenuto5159 no it can come after
@@arvidgreat they would be both interesting, but medieval 2 aged much worse, especially the camera controls and the UI
@@alessiobenvenuto5159 already have it in the 1212AD mod for Attila, it'll be hard to beat that mod
Empire was my 1st Total War game and still my favorite. I have over a 1,000 hrs in and still not bored with it. Fingers crossed that they announce development on Empire 2 within a few years.
i think a new total war will be released in 2023 or late 2022 if lucky. It will most likely either be a empire 2 or a medieval 3.
But since medieval already has a medieval 2 and empire doesn't, makes me believe that it would make more sense to make empire 2.
I can't even imagine an empire total war with the resources that we have today. It would be too epic!
@@minimortensen2902 I can't wait for a single Unit George Washington wielding two Cutlasses dueling with King George who wields a blunderbuss with an axe attached to it. /s
I think empire 2 with the tools today would be sick but I could see them trying for a WW2 Era aswell
@@Metaldude1945 pls no
Still hoping for an Empire 2, or at LEAST a completely fixed and expanded Empire remastered.
This will always be my favorite Total War game. The economy aspects, population actually mattering towards the growth of your regions (even if only to a point, the town/village turning into cities system, which you can then develop according to your needs is really cool) this was always so engaging... rushing the full development potential of my regions was always my favorite way to play this game. Having multiple schools to research more than one thing and not being stuck to a single research choice is something I miss greatly. Economic growth actually existing in this game (it was last in shogun 2) is something else I wish Total War didn't forsake. The idea of tax having an impact on population growth, emigration to colonies, and the overall wealth of your population (immediate VS long term gains) instead of tax ONLY being about public order and raw income from static sources and nothing else, was such a lovely aspect of this game. If this game ever saw a remaster, a genuine remaster that refined what was attempted here, got the same polish its spiritual successor Napoleon got, and expanded on the depth of the theaters, I think it could easily become the most celebrated total war game.
1700s warfare is the perfect setting for a total war game, they should make a Empire 2
As Napoleon your opinion on that is probably kinda biased
@@irgendeinname9256 as a random furry on the internet I can vouch for napoleon
@@Andrewbaysura1 i like that era too. But I also think what's much more important than the setting is how they implement. I hear most people say that they want an empire 2, a medieval 3 or a pike and shot total war but tbh any setting could be a really great or bad total war so I don't really care about that.
honestly I would LOVE an empire 2 and I hope it takes place from 1700 to 1899 or 1900 and there is even more places like at trading ports in china and add the whole of Africa Im not sure how realistic my ideas are Im not a coder
new totalwar title from early modern period (talking about 16-19th century) would be total blast. 30 years war would be probably one of the most engaging titles. Not sure why they are nto milking it already :D
Empire total war with the full world map, starting in EU IV start date, with colonization and exploration mechanics, tech similiar to Empire (with gradual improvements to army, economy and navy), and a deep enfâsis on trade routes and rare resources for economy (as it was irl), and thus making the navy the most important asset in the game.
The small towns are actually an important part of Empire, think their importance should be even bigger, so protecting them would be essencial.
Think this is my perfect Total war. Obviously, good graphics, no bugs, decent balance, etc, are a must.
To compensate for the Ai they could set certain actions or play styles for each faction rather than give them cheats or the standard ai behaviour of every faction.
@@legendrogue237 just give the AI historical objetives.
Portugal wants to explore the sea and get to India, the brits and France are rivals, ottoman want to expand, etc...
@@_Azurael_ Exactly , they could also add indepth historical and ahistorical events or the player's decisions which might as well heavily impact a faction's playstyle. Proxy wars could be an interesting mechanic whilst there should be more indepth puppet/vassal mechanics.
To add to it a Political system could be implemented to influence policies , economy military and colonies .
The possibilities for content are endless .
I think starting in 1444 and having the whole world is too ambitious. I think even in something as expansive as Empire needs a tighter focus than what can be achieved in a pdx title.
Imo I think a province system like what we saw in later total war games would honestly not be that bad of an addition in Empire. The trick imo is tying it into population, perhaps by the province population allowing the city growth, which can allow for more units to be trained in a turn or raising the cap for training elite units.
I do think you’re absolutely correct that trade has to be center in Empire. As is there just isn’t enough focus on it, compared to war. I also think diplomacy should be a bigger part of the game. Idk what to do abt the former, but for the latter I think it might be good to have ‘coalitions’ temporary alliances that allow minor actors to fight among themselves, but if any larger faction comes in they all defend. I think also revamping vassals might be good, having it so that you can force a faction to be your vassal after the war, reducing your threat in exchange for not outright annexing, and perhaps occupation costs and differences in culture can be increased as well. Vassals can attempt to be rebellious depending on their economics, military score, how harsh you choose to be as their ruler, and distance. Maybe there could also be ‘sponsors,’ where a major nation can choose to secretly agree to fight for a rebellious Vassal. There could also be an event for having them, Austria for example might be able to form Germany by conquering or vassalizing all of the German states.
@@Vee_9001 cannot agree with "too ambitious". IF they can make the Warhammer map, they can make the whole world.
They need to be ambitious or they will start to lose the historical audience for good.
Had a lot of fun with Empire back in the day. I remember capturing the entire map as Prussia. Having the Prussian life guards versus the Indian elephants was awesome. I sure hope that CA brings back the naval battles in their next historical title.
I would play Poland all the time and smh the Prussians gave me the worst time lol
Haha, i did the same in my first game
@@Kodoschannel1 Thats historically accurate lol
>I surely hope that CA brings back ________ in their next historical title (assuming there is any at this point)
Look, as much I would LOVE to have hope for the future of TW, if you've ever wondered why year after year they come over to drop a turd in front of you and then saunter off to make the next Warhammer TW? It's because you keep having faith in them. Understand this: the devs who made your favourite TW probably moved on years ago, hoping for that same passion from today's CA is pretty pointless. Same goes for most of the big names in gaming, the makeup of these studios change, the publishers change, the deals change, the priorities change.
@@HandleMyBallsTH-cam no, don't say that... please T_T
Empire was my first Total War. More than 400 hours in steam. That one deserves a Empire 2. With countries splited into provinces, political mechanics, more units by countries, missions, chapters and Campaigns like 7 Years War, French Revolution, cities sieges remodelled
I'm glad you mentionned the forts battle.
I was able to tolerate the bugs, the clunky pathfinding, the incompetent AI, but the constant forts battle ruined my spirit.
Some of the small town settlements with no walls, though, were some of the most fun maps I've played. Put 2-3 units in buildings, guard the most important streets, avoid the arty with the available map items ...
Empire is in my top 3 TW games where I had most fully finished campaigns. Playing as the Indians rising up, the brits going full America, France dominating western Europe , Ottomans going for a new golden age or Russia soloing the world. Had a lot of fun.
Great to hear :) and yea those fort battles… soul crushing
You know they're bad when you prefer to fight outside the fort
@@AndysTake It's funny, because my first playthrough as Great Britain, I played mostly in the New World, and I didn't fight many fort battles. :D
I never upgraded my forts as that'll put parts of it Outside the spawn zone which was absolutely dumb beyond reason,
Attacking forts always has been hilarious just attack the corner with arty especially howitzers and just see the enemy melt under quicklime,
Though my best battles have been field battles both in America and India, trying desperately to break the native horde before it inevitably grinds my army down has led to awesome pitched battles where I needed to wheel forces, regroup and refocus
Honestly if they're gonna do a 2 basically just remaster it and just add the Love and care it needed to actually tip over into greatness that it deserves
Best campaign hands down. The battle AI was soooo frustrating especially with forts. Even if the ai stayed in a static line without maneuvering very much it would have handled battles 1000 times better. Instead they would charge Melee and 2 centimeters away from your line they turn and run away and then turn and run back.
Empire was close to greatnesses, but it was just too unfinished and the mechanics needed way more polish.
Still a solid game.
Well said!
I remember some of the cancelled features like the naval landings and where the ships were able to participate in a costal land battle. Features that eventually made it into Rome 2. But they would have just been so incredible given the period. I really hope for a Total War: Empire 2 at some point.
Well, the fact that we are here talking about TW historical games from 2007 is a sign that the developers are focusing too much in fantasy and leaving us without options. So let's talk about MODs for all these good old TW historical games! I am ok with that.
Mods are one of our only hopes right now, because CA would rather make Troy 2 than Medieval 3, Empire 2 or any historical game.
@@caballeroquimera2501 more like three kingdoms 2.
Troy didnt sell, and Its not played. Saga games have been a failure.
My favorite mod for Medieval II has to be the Elder Scrolls mod.
Its shockingly good.
@@darken2417 what's your favorite faction?
@@legiohysterius4624
Empire. They can expand in any direction and have access to many unique troops both by default and due to their proximity to special locations like the Dawnguard fortress.
And they can easily buy land from Skyrim and the Bretons.
And they also have to protect their isolated fortress all the way in Vvardenfell.
It is my most fondly beloved entry in the whole Total War series. It had its drawbacks, as pointed out in the video, but it had this feel of empire building like no other game in the series. It felt grand, ambitious, and the battles felt relevant and cinematic, even if they got buggy as hell every now and then. The idea of juggling between several war theatres also added so much opportunity cost and forced to make some heavy decisions because you simply could not dominate on all theatres in the early game. I really hope they release a sequel someday.
The nostalgia. My first Total War game and to this day my favorite. It has aged in some aspects like controls. What would I give for modern unit controls on the field. But the campaign map is still the best I played, with Shogun 2 getting a close second. The scale alone makes its title justice. You could feel that you are building an empire, having provinces on 3 different continents. Trade was really deep compared to others. You have to go out of Europe to get valuable goods and ship them back to your capital and then send them to your trading partners. Tech was also fun. Better trade? Get better ports and plantages buildings. Better armies? Get canister shot or line fire. And navel combat. So much time as a kid was simply watching these battles. Two lines sailing past each other and unloading hundreds of cannons in unison and even then you would not fully grasp the scale of this battles. A single ship could carry more cannons than most armies in that age.
It offers just the feeling of building and commanding an Empire, something that has gotten lost today. I just don't like the focus on individual characters like in 3 Kingdoms. Sure, I like the story of them, and having named ones makes the game better, but the rest just got a bit forgotten. Units tide to them and only 6 units? Even with that, you could only have 1 or 2 armies at the beginning, denying the option of splitting most of the time. And having no growing economy just feels boring. In Empire, some techs gave you huge boosts in income, both in trade and industry. But I start rambling.
Emipre is just unique in the series. It still has so much potential. Only thing that stops me sometimes are the controls and a bit the AI. And fort battles...
I would say a perfect total war would be empire and napoleon mixed with some ai improvements
CA should have made that and called it Empire.
Empire is so good with mods, I have been playing it a lot lately and have grown to love it even more despite its flaws.
Can relate!
Yep, mods really iron out a lot of the flaws
I really liked the battles on Empire, the pacing was perfect, the battlefield would shift, you could scan over the map after the battle and actually tell what happened. It told a story in a way.
I certainly remember battles I just looked at the map and just felt horrified by the sight of it, especially fighting the natives would lead to maps where there was just piles of death where brutal clashes happened,
Or the sieges where the AI just couldn't understand that it could never win as I just kept pouring quicklime unto them, a few thousand soldiers crammed together without any chance to do anything but fall, clean victories but never ones I enjoyed due to that
Ya know, i would still love to know whos bright idea it was to make "follow up games" for total war, cus just imagine if they spent all the time and money making the "main game" grate and just taking on the "follow up game" as DLC or and expansion like FoTS was. The improvements over Empire in Napoleon are obvious (ships being able to repair in battle for example), how hard can that POSSIBLY BE?!
Empire still has the best TECH PROGRESSION of any total war to date, its not about unlocking better stuff and small bonuses its about upgrading your existing troops and getting them more tools (although as you progress you do get more troops and better troops, BUT most of them are limited in number) and the "province capital" and smaller cities that you can specialize i feel had alot of potential, certainly more so then the modern building system. (why is France only once city? it should be 4 or 5 at least)
Empires only real downside is the battlefield AI, which is sad cus empire also has alot of interesting little features like garrisoning buildings for cover or using walls for cover. Not to mention certain units have access to certain fortifications when defending (light infantry are the only ones that can lay mines), not to mention all the units have at least SOME purpose.
I know… to all of this. I think the decentralized provincial system is great, but NEEDS to have many more cities and much more complex ones. The way it is in the later games.. just not fun at all compared to the Empire system.
@@AndysTake I suspect they are STILL using it to this day cus it cuts down on "clutter" on the campaign map so they can CRAMP the Cities so close to each other for this "province/reigon" system they have now, and so the AI only has to take cities and doesn't just go around raiding the countryside cus it feels it cant take the city. (thats is technically a smart move but ultimately its just super annoying)
Seriously EVERY "region" is like the size of Westphalia or those other small german states these days and RARELY much bigger.
The easiest "compromise" between the 2 systems i can come up with is you have a Central city with multiple slots, and you have 3 "towns" (including ports) that you can specialize in a few different ways. They KINDA did this in Thrones but....its sucked cus its just Match the colors for bonuses.
@@AndysTake I hate that you can only recruit from a general. It makes supply lines pretty much worthless. In Empire I follow my main army with a half stack of infantry exclusively to reinforce damaged units after a fight.
Also the ability to detach cavalry and have them scout/raid. Really important aspect that just disappears when you can only have troops recruited at a general.
The province system is just bad. Its so much worse than Medieval 2 or Empire. Growth.... just.... growth. Worst mechanic ever.
I really liked the game. Definitely not my favourite, but good amounts of fun were had.
The soundtrack tho, I think is the best of the whole series. Melancholic, era fitting, "remixes" of famous pieces.
It's tied on 1st place with Rome TW in my opinion. Still got chills when I hear the main theme, or one of the loading screens.
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching, Lionel :) I think the music is nice as well, I just wanted a bit more and present tracks. Partially why I prefer the OST in Napoleon, but empire has some very nice tracks as well!
In this Total game Warship battle was more excitement especially that in the Sailing Age
Would love Creative Assembly to look at Europa Universalis 4 for the next Empire 2.
Same!
This is my second favorite behind Rome and the one I want the most remade or a second one bigger battles bigger worlds naval battles preferably campaign map character interactions maybe multi tier battles with a positioning, skirmish, main battle, and rearguard fazes with many more units and armies on the field at the same time also a much better ai is a must for the love of good more more death blobs? Please?
Ive played Total War sense it started. Empire is still my favorite. The new ones are far to complicated.
I love the decentralized provinces of napoleon and empire. So emersive
Empire was my first total war game ever. I spent long hours on this game but I have to say that the only reason why this game is still playable to me is because of the mods. In my opinion the mods saved this game
True.
I hope the next one has the whole world map.....i want all the native american tribes....south america ...africa...Australia....china and japan......playing as the zulus in south africa would be awesome
I just remember beating basically the entire game with line infantry and a couple of cannons.
That DOES work.
*cough* Napoleon *cough*
'Cuse me, had to cough.
Cannons, howitzers and line infantry to guard them, my standard line-up 2 cannons 3-5 howitzers, 2 charge cav, 2 melee cav, and the rest infantry,
Cav doesn't always shine, but they can be amazing when put in the right place at the right time, as it gives you a lot of flexibility especially combining the Shattering effect of lancers followed up by melee cav as they've got no time to recover from the charge
I like how much of the technology actually matters in this game. More modern ones have a ton of basic “+5% stat boosts” and other boring stuff
I LOVE Napoleon and Shogun 2. To the point they are my absolute favourite historical games. Gunpowder battles are really amazing in Total War.
Napoleon is the best historical title, far ahead of Empire
I wish we had a shogun2 style gameplay on the empire map.
Tech allows you to build gun batteries for forts, ports and other map chokepoints. Have naval/fort battles.
Like realm divide discourages early game expansion, have diplomacy actually matter as territorial expansion scares AI into forming alliances, fortifying and attacking.
Generals have trainable abilities.
Rare trade resources can be obtained by tech/diplomacy achievements.
Compete for trade deals.
Late game trains/merchant shipping allows rapid auto transport of armies.
Tech revolutionizes battlefield with Gatling guns prompting trenches. Howitzers bring the evolution of star forts into bunkers. Percussion shells demanding ironclad ships requiring coal depots.
A remake or remastered version of this game would out sell warhammer. Bet
Total war games deserve more attention then they get
At least a few of them.
@@tiborcsendes5269 true
12:50
Oh yeah....
And the soundtrack was fucking AWESOME!
I remember when Empire TW was like on launch (pretty sure it was also the first TW Tittle launched on steam as well.
Ran like total ass, the turn times were nearly 5+ mins even on a decent rig - but man I loved it. The other issue was the god awful a.i even now in 2022 but thankfully mods fix a lot of these issues.
Hahaha agreed, can relate :)
even with no mods ETW is completely fine, until you start a battle.
Empire was awesome yet at the same time disappointing mostly due to the poor AI both in battles and on the campaign map. Mods have done a lot to fix this but the game is too broken to truly be fixed. Of all the games that deserves a sequel or remake. Or just even a proper remaster, its this game. There is so much to this game. Almost too much, thats why it falls a bit flat and deserves a second chance. I want to love this game and it deserves to be the best TW ever.
This game was an underrated masterpiece. Even though it had several bugs/glitches, including dumb enemy AI thst would sometimes hide behind a wall, retreat for no reason, get stuck because of the terrain, not attack, or just completely disappear, this game was ahead of its time and was actually very educational.
Empire was the best hands down.
Its actually far from being the best, but i agree that the potential was there.
With less bugs, more features, better AI and better path finding, it would have been awesome
I loved the game. The biggest problem I have is the lack of provinces. I mean, take Paris and pouf no more France. It's a bit ridiculous. Also, all European armies should start with bayonets (Most armies did not have pikes anymore in 1700)...And different types of firings would have been interesting (for all units).
yeah, a sequel with a lot more details like that added like that would be phenomenal. There's so much potential with the era and the base formula
Yeah, thats how I felt playing as Russia. Muscovy should have been three provinces. Novgorod, Smolensk, and Moscow. All as multi-slot cities to reflect that it was Russia's economic heartland. Also would have liked to see proper representation of what would later be Ukraine, which was the Zaporizhian Sech a puppet of Russia at the time.
I don't think a lack of pikes is the best idea. Carl XII of Sweden was known for performing decisive charges with his line infantry (armed with swords) and pike formations. Pikes were definitely getting outdated, but the 1600s were dominated by them, even up into the 1710s. So it should be fine early game in the same way it's fine to have peasants early game in Medieval TW.
@@khronostheavenger8923 You're right, in Eastern Europe pikes where still widely used, notably also because of the heavy use of cavalry (notably by the Poles). But the French, British, Spanish, Austrian and other smaller German states armies had all outdated them by 1700 (1703 for the French officially). Men all had flintlock muskets and at least plug bayonets (even though in theory some wished to see the pike return). There were no pikes in the War of Spanish Succession, but indeed there were some in the Great Northern War. It's just that the way they implemented pikemen, they are truly useless.
Apparently, the reason for the pikemen being in the game is because it was the game was supposed to start in 1680
Yes, yes, and yes. The only thing that would have made it better is fort engagement defenders actually being able to fire muskets and cannons properly at enemies advancing. Or large army engagements when you have two or three armies around and enemy one and you can bring your full force to bear.
It probably would've worked better if they used the Garrison building feature on the Walls, so it would've actually known men where using that section and made using the cannons easier instead of the horrible way you always had to fiddle with it to finally work
I still play Empire with Darth Mod. Does anyone remember when the game was first released as the Empires grew the game speed slowed to snail's pace?
YES IT IS, because you can the ambition for this game is so far ahead of their technical capabilities, so even if players hate it because of bugs, there are some who saw past the bugs and seen the diamond that is empire total war
With Empire more than any other I'd just say remaster it, fix the problems don't touch Anything else except maybe the province system and you've got a solid title,
64 bit architecture and a functional AI would already be most of the problems I've encountered solved as it always runs like a hog in a tub of lard
I never understood a lot of the hate Empire got, I thought it was the best campaign map by far. The fact there are strategic locations located on the map like resources and forts which can be occupied or raided makes the world so much more interesting and alive. You actually want to send small armies and units to keep these minor settlements protected from roaming bands of native raiders, etc.. Only thing it was missing is combined naval/land invasion battles!
Empire is the ONLY total war game that hasnt had a sequel, and i think its because they are sitting on it to make something HUGE. The warhammer series showed us they can truly make MASSIVE maps with hundreds of provinces. I believe warhammer 2 eye of the vortex had over 300 provinces. Now that theyve finished their warhammer trilogy, my hopes are VERY high that they push out an empire 2.
I have like 900 hours on this game according to steam. If it got some more crucial updates it would be the best total war ever.
Every time I play Empire I enjoy it. Every episode I make of it wants me to make more. Empire is the biggest gamble CA ever made, but it is a good gamble.
Agreed! A gamble, a worthwhile one too. I just wish they would retry and perfect what they started.
@@AndysTake indeed, and the diplomacy maybe a delay of 1-3 turns? So you get a real feeling of the scale
damn i would love a shogunlike holy roman empire system ,maybe where an alternative route would have been to become the leading force of the empire. and basicly enforce universal Kaisertum
Hotseat feature was actually added as a limited time beta test iirc.
if only we got empire with multiplayer they would have never sold any more total war history games everyone would have been playing co-op for the next 15+ years waiting for empire 2 with 10player co-op gameplay
Yeah, but I don't understand why all the siege battles are in forts. Were there no walled cities in the 1700s? It seems strange. And even if the cities aren't walled, it seems like they could have just recycled whatever they used in Rome Total War (to make the cities bigger as your troops march through the streets). The sieges are disappointing.
I remembered when it first come out, the naval mechanic and gameplay was remarkable.
If they released a new Empire Total War, only having modernized the gunpowder combat and getting rid of the bugs it would be the best Total War easily.
I watched the video until the end and hearing the music I remembered that they did not bring Jeff van Dyck back to do the soundtrack for Empire. This was also a big mistake!
I like Empire for the reasons you mention, but there were indeed a lot of downsides too. CA should watch this video and make a superior sequel!
So I remember when it came out, I wasn't a huge fan. It came out broken af and the AI/ player mechanics were nearly unplayable.
By the time Napoleon came out though, it was a completely different game.
Also hats off to the modding community, they have expanded and improved this game beyond belief.
I'd say yes. The single most ambitious total war ever made, slightly to ambitious but man the mods make it hold up. I've spent at least 5000 hrs in it
Which mods would you recommend? Thanks!
I personally think that Empire + Napoleon, with elements from some later games would be by far the best Total War ever made.
I have Medieval II, Rome, Rome II, Shogun, and Napoleon, but my favourite has always been Empire. The game isn’t perfect, but with Minor Factions Revenge it can get pretty close.
would it be so unpopular as to say Empire and Napoleon have been CA's best works
im playing empires total war currently and having a blast
I love Empire, but it REALLY suffers from not having some of the advanced controls added in newer games like Warhammer (Alt+drag to move in formation, that kind of thing) - black powder warfare is ALL ABOUT manoeuvring in formation, but in E:TW, doing so is next to impossible.
yes that kind of control was added in later titles, rome 2 started some of this (eg left click drag), Attila improved on this (eg Alt+drag, shift+drag etc), then from warhammer onwards CA created a new game engine.
There are formations in Empire but battles controls def not as advanced as later titles.
See youtube video "Empire Total War: Formation Guide (Commentary Walkthrough)"
Unfortunately Sega and Creative Assembly has lost their fanbase after the stunts they pulled with Three Kingdoms, I won't be purchasing any of their products in the future
I still can’t forgive CA for first promising a multiplayer campaign, then delivering a half hearted BETA and eventually dropping it altogether. This game would be AMAZING with mods - if there was the multiplayer campaign. However the battle AI in this game is so terrible I haven’t been able to go back to it, since single player just doesn’t make sense to me when every AI army just suicides itself.
YES! Why didn’t they release the full multiplayer?! THIS would be perhaps the BEST multiplayer experience in Total War history because of the variety and scope. Just so awesome.
The multiplayer campaign is the sole reason Napoleon has more than 30hours of playtime for me. It has over 1000, multiplayer campaign for empire would be so perfect.
ETW would have benefitted massively from drop-in battles alone; far moreso than Shogun 2 at least.
The game is dirt cheap, so why ask if it is worth it in 2022? You don't like it? You only spent like 10-15 bucks.
I love empire and I'm exited to see if you continue to Norway series
I loved empire total war. i spent a lot of hours and took pride in my micromanagement of 10's of sectors around the globe. I haven't engaged in that type of providence management since that game, and now focus on just making everyone mad at me and defending. I hope they make empire total war 2!!!!
This was my first Total War game. At the time I was seeking an RTS, and was interested in the US Revolutionary war campaign, and gave it a try. I loved it and would eventually go on to log 1500 hours in game. Together with George Washington, me and Mel Gibson pushed back against British colonialism and carved out our own independent nation. The Darth Mod, in my opinion, made it even better, with bigger battles. The shipping routes added strategic depth to the game, as you could disrupt enemy trade. During one campaign, I realized that the pirates in the Caribbean were actually more beneficial to be left alone to harass my rivals, than to be invaded. Besides America, my favorite faction to play as during the long campaign were the Prussians. Balancing relationships between the protestant north and catholic south, while trying to reunite the Prussian empire was a challenge and enormously fun. My only wish would be that the entire world was included, besides just trade ports.
Empire was the easiest Total War game for me to play and understand - it was much more tactically satisfying and even when the odds are stacked against you, if you used the right combination of tactics, you could achieve victory. One example is that I had a small town come under siege by enemy calvary, and I remember taking the three groups of local townsmen, placing them behind a stone wall at the bottom of a hill. The enemy calvary began their charge and as they crested the hill, I had the townsmen place down spikes at the last second. A handful of the enemy cavalry were impelled, and it forced them to retreat and regroup. As they turned around the townsmen began firing from behind the stonewall, further dwindling the enemy's numbers, spurring a full retreat.
There are so many more stories I could tell regarding Empire's tactical balance.
If they make an Empire 2, I would love to see the entire world included.
Loved this, thanks for sharing!
I haven’t played it but I am thinking on actually giving the game a chance with probably the empire 2 mod.
Rome was my first TW, but Empires complete world, sea battles and history drew me in even more. Can’t wait, and hope beyond hope we get an ETW2 or NTW2
This game definitely doesn't get the credit it deserves. I really hope they'll revisit the 1700s at some point.
Newer titles may have newer graphics, but Empire as the most replayability of any Total War title.
Just fucking remaster it already CA!!!
THIS!
I'm rooting so hard for Empire 2 one day. Hopefully it'll include the 1600s as well as China and Japan. That would be beyond awesome.
Empire TW with Darth Mod is something thats always installed on my PC! :)
I still play it. Universities/Schools.etc... as you say are very important , i recomend capturing German regions to imcrease not just research but "professors". Also ministers can be fired , i tend to look for new ministers every 2 turns. It takes sometime to build a full 5.stars government but the rewards are worth it.
I fully enjoy the game , continents, trade in places where you must mantain a fleet to fence off marauders bit with up to 15 trade ships per spot it is well worth. Naval battles are impresive though the AI does better than a human in equally balanced battles , the human must click and move the map manually whereas the AI does it at cpu speed. There are so many aspects to the game. I am playing Russia and I left UK alive to enjoy difficult battles with elite troops. Because there are limited numbers of elite troops , army composition against different armies counta a lot. Rocket units are perfect for sieges, eventually most of the enemy army dies, though this is a boring exploit, it showcases the game as full of interesting algorythms to discover. I bet at least 50% of players of Empire are somehow connected to computer science.
Anyway, thanks for the video. I am gonna watch some more in your channel. Subscribed🎉
I feel they really should do a empire total war 2
They did all the other games, might as well update this one.
Otherwise
I would LOVE to see a total war set during the Bronze age (I mean real bronze age, not troy/fantasy).
Where maybe the sea peoples are a secret hidden boss that emerges when enough rebels gather together.
An you have two possible tech paths you can go down. One that is better suited for fighting the sea peoples and another that fights the other factions. All while dealing with environment issues.
Another good idea is South Africa, where we could play different tribes/peoples. With the added bonus of having the Boers and British being major threats to deal with. In a real way it be like Shogun 2 : Fall of the Samurai.
Third possible good idea is having a game take place In india/South East assia during some point in time.
Imagine the different types of warriors you can play around with.
Fourth idea would certainly be a steam punk total war game set in Ancient Rome.
Or at least a mod that would add steam power as part of the tech tree.
Empire and Napoleon both got steam power, at least the Darthmod versions
But yeah I'd love a Steampunk mod based on like the Empire/Napoleon style of combat
@@Voron_Aggrav What about a steam punk Rome?
Wish they create medieval to empire. So that the tech tree will be longer... more events will happen... more game time.
Loved the melee combat animations. So many different movements going off at once.
First TotalWar that have Naval an sync melee Animation. the pace is slow so you can so you can relax and zoom close in combat.
Can't play anything older than Atilla, unit responsive is just too awful, units constantly get stuck especially during sieges, and take 2 minutes to realize I gave them an order.
SHogun 2 feels good, though it's missing a few of the modern camera controls. Something it has that I really wish they would bring back is holding lshift to q move/attack orders one after the other.
Was also the last TW before the cursed chunky healthbar system. Really wish they would go back to low hp models at some point again.
Für mich sind die besten 3 Total War immer noch. Medieval II, Rome II & Napoleon . Die neuen Total War seit Britannien sind für den Arsch seit sich die Karte und die Menüs dermaßen geändert haben. Man kann auch nicht mehr die Armee ausbilden , die man haben möchte ist sondern nur auf bestimmte Einheiten immer begrenzt. Das ist Mist !
love your total war vids, wish they were on switch
Thank you, mate, appreciate it :)
I've been playing shogun and fall of the samurai and empire seemed like a nice option to play next, this video is reassuring. Still, I haven't found it on sale yet...
i still play this game.
mods make games live forever.
i would love to see a modern version but...
developers and publishers just don't do things they don't think will make them billions so...
Hey! Can you please give me a few examples of some good mods? Thanks!
The closest to perfection was for me Shogun 2, no doubt.
It may not be the best total war game, but it is the best looking and playable pc wargame set in the 18th century. There aren't many strategy games set in this period, and those others that exist are either too arcane and complex (seven years war, wars of succession) or oversimplified (American Patriots). Ultimate admiral may be the lone rival of Empire. Empire wins that rivalry for me because it is more open-ended and "grand" in various aspects.
Being quite old now, i'd give up one of my testicles for a new release of Empire that amalgamated all the progress from the TW releases since E:TW. what they tried to accomplish back then, few companies have tried to replicate since. Empire is still the first TW i install after a machine rebuild; thanks to Darthmod, but now that TWII incorporates some of its features, i'lll probably just go with that.
EDIT: Excellent video, by the way, summed up my feelings perfectly; it has so much to offer. If only....
the game is actually very good if you ignore the fact all the maps are the same and some other things like france being 1 giant state with a singular city, youll find a very fun game..naval combat hits just right, just a nice barrage of ships...land combat is also very satisfying..surely when your enemy is charging..lines get gunned down..than in line combat..man after man falls as they exchange fire..as a cannon than blows a whole in the formation..than cavarly flanks and hits the behinds of the line infantry....so combat is very fun..and the diplomacy system is very much improved..with allies actually meaning something as they actually make me back down from some stuff..like german war with austria as prussia, so the game is very balanced in that regard..and the unit variety is great..i could go on and on..but to make it simple as the video explains it, this game is good
I played Total War: Empire mostly in campaign mape mode. I loved the game, but then I discovered Europa Universalis 4 and never looked back.
Haha yes, if only the campaign of Empire was a bit more like the campaign in EU4...
1:10 Ahh, missing features weren't included in the video :( Italian states and Afghanistan practically playable and voiced. Great review nevertheless.
Thank you :) and yea, missing features is an entire thesis on itself. I have a video about that though, which you’re free to check out :)
I want Empire Total War 2 and Medieval Total War 3.
i started my TW carreer so young that i wasn't able to play medieval 2 without economic cheast (i did fight the battles thou) and empire wa my first TW that i played as it should be and i loved it. i think medieval 2, rome 2 and empire are the 3 TW with overwelming numer of hours compared to other TW i played
Empire was awesome. I loved it then, still love it now, and went absolutely bonkers for Napoleon.
Campaign: 10/10 for the map and the atmosphere
Tech tree: 10/10 research and gentlemen/universities is a fun system
diplomacy: 10/10 Trading and selling regions is vital to a total war game (hasn't been used since!)
Field battles: 6/10 AI needs mods to function
siege battles: 4/10 Laughably bad but fun to cheese
Naval battles: 7/10 pretty but frustrating and hard to control
Overall ETW is the most feature rich, fun to play, and engaging total war game.
I have spent countless hours painting the map. Which is not the case for any other historical title besides rome II and FOTS
for me naval battle 9/10 why its 9/10 is because of can’t repair ships like in Napoleon.
@@TheT3MK4 wait what? Ships don't repair at military ports?
@@ion_force I mean on battlefield.
Campaign 6/10 for 1 province France and lack of provinces elsewhere, cheating and incompetent AI.
Tech tree: 8/10 not much to say, techs change the game nicely.
Diplomacy 6/10 has many of the same issues that Napoleon and (to a lesser extent) Shogun has, campaign AI is braindead at diplomacy.
Field battles 6/10 braindead AI, maps are tiny, units unbalanced.
Siege battles 5/10 bad with forts.
Naval battles 8/10 can be good when not bugged out.
Let's be honest, Empire was the most broken Total War ever released, if this is almost perfection in your eyes then your perspective must be really restricted ;)
Indeed it was broken on release. It still remains quiet broken. But the concept and certain mechanics + time period and scope still makes it something unique :)
The AI was dreadful but other than that it was pretty good. If you could give it Napoleons graphics and FOTS's AI that would be nice.
Sad to say but the Total War Series is all about Warhammer now. For this reason I see them moving away from historic games as their most success came from a fantasy setting.
You unfortunately right =(
Empire Total War should always be remembered for the massive innovative step CA took developing the game. Unfortunately the step was a bit too big, which made the game 'bad' rather than 'awesome'. AI and pathfinding required an update it never got, so battles don't feel like lines of musketeers but blobs of maneuvering (not even charging) men. The decentralized construction was an awesome feature, except that it is too easy for AI to ruin your production center of a center good. While this also reflects reality of warfare, where looting of easy targets is a valid strategy, it was also extremely frustrating. Overall it is a flawed gem, brilliant on one side and cracked on the other.
Agreed :)
who knew that leaving your borders uprotected results in "frustration"?
on a more serious note, minor settlements like that should have had small garrison forces and maybe be indivvidually capturable (in a more long term sense); maybe have region capitals suffer significant penalties to public order and garrison strength when towns/farms ithin their influence get captured by the enemy.
It was my first total war ans so far I have aabout 1200 more hours in it than any otjer TW game. the AI can be bad at times but with some mods it is perfect!
Empire two or 19th century or the 17th century total war game
I'm 25 just got a PC this year and this was my first total war....it quickly became a top 3 all time game for me and I have nearly 200 hours in it in under 8 months
Plus Total War ironically works when you have a big map. But Rome II/Empire have a severely bad campaign playstyle because lack of events and lack of immersion - I wonder if there's a video that you would make looking at ALL the cut content of Rome 2 and what that campaign was meant to be like?