2020 Transition Sentinel V2 Review: More Travel, Baby
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- Version 2.0 of the Transition Sentinel launches today, and while it isn't a drastic departure from the original, there have been a few noteworthy tweaks and design changes to ensure it remains fully modern. Read the full review: pinkbike.link/sentinelv2
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More power babyyy! -James Pumphrey, Donut Media 2019.
Speaking of donuts... Where is the grim donut?
I thought he said that in like 2018, anyway
Orney Mo Powa Babeh!!*
You got it wrong it’s like this: A mo powah bebeh
Get a kona process.
I demoed this bike this weekend, it rode like a dream 😍 the climbs were nice and the descent flowed beautifully
Well done on the filming. Looks like Mike did it himself and did a great job
Saw the new Scout the other day and kinda fell in love with the lines. But somehow, even in absence of the skills that would require to have plenty of suspension, I was really not sure if the Scout had enough of it.
Now to see a 29er scout with more suspension is awesome. Thst bike looks so damn sick and the review is awesome.
You guys do a great job with these reviews, it would be cool if you added another guy with a free ride-ish background to give some additional insight to the bikes from that perspective (jumps, whips, jibs etc) but I know enduro is the huge thing right now so there may not be a big enough audience. Awesome job either way 🤘
great review
love that you compare to similar bikes as well, really useful!
This was a comprehensive review... Thank you!!
Transition bikes are insane, I brought the XX1 spur, AMAZING!
Would have loved to hear your comparison to this and the Stumpy EVO which is one of the chosen few in the 160/150 category. Great job overall Mike!
Had the same 'knock knock' noise from the superdelux on my Bronson. Shock was replaced but the knock returned after some use.
"Nice integrated chain slap protector"
*shows big scuff on the chain-stay*
That's from a bunch of muddy rides with flat pedals and chunky shoes. I'd recommend a strip of protective tape to prevent that. - Mike
I appreciate that he actually rode the shit out of it.
@@pinkbike Kinda off topic question for you Mike. Has any suspension manufacture used a nitrogen charge in a rear shock like we do on our mx bikes to improve performance or would that be too complex and add weight vs the performance trade off? Thanks and great vid as usual.
@@pinkbike Any particular brand of tape work well for you?
@@Peanutdenver every manufacturer does... There is no weight difference, and pretty much no performance difference, most peopple recharge with air after the first service, just because it's already mostly nitrogen.
This has got to be the one of the best looking bikes ever!
i'm looking forward to the Raaw Madonna V2, review
Now Thats a bike review!
That is funny my DPX2 on my 2018 had the same knocking type noise. Transition has Fox service it. I haven't tried it as I picked an X2 while I was waiting for it to come back.
Great video, how do you compare the transition sentinel with the Commencal Meta TR 2021 that you have recently reviewed? Which one is better and inspire more confidence on the descents? Many thanks
Build kit made for durability :
- has Flow S1 wheels
- has GX eagle derailleur
Both those parts are better than my current parts
@@theGiver3 Maybe, but my last bike came stock with both those parts, and I can tell you that I had to replace the derailleur two times, the whole groupset once (bent crank and derailleur, worn out bottom bracket, cassette and chain, stripped shifter bolt), and the Stans rims had so many dents that they would not hold air anymore...
@@antoineleroy4523 ive never had issues with my gx derailleur but I could just be a lucky one, ik a bunch of people who have had issues
Sounds like a durable build...
@@rosshannigan663 To be honest, this derailleurs work amazing for the first month and a half, but after a dozen of rides gears are starting to skip in the middle of the cassette, and you can't do anything about it.
In France our trails are really rough with loads of exposed rocks and roots so it doesn't help, but a Mtb derailleur should be able to handle a few strikes.
I have a Shimano XT 12spd on my new bike, shifts as good as 4 month ago when I installed it 🤷♂️
What a pitty they didnt bring it out in the same blue color as the Scout...
good video - I dont like how the bike websites dont give a MSRP price - makes searching harder.
so they increased the progression for this model, but Mike still added another spacer to increase it even more :)) Nice bike for sure!
I thought it was the scout from the thumbnail, they look insanely similar. I think I'm still a bigger fan of the patrol in terms of looks
Norco sight and Transition Sentinel each have a 150mm rear suspension stroke and have different damper lengths NS 52.5mm and TS 62.5mm as calculated, although the suspensions are probably the same?
So what's the diff. between riding a short-travel bike vs. a longer one set up stiffer so you only use the first 150mm or whatever?
Would love to hear how the sentinel compares to the gurillela gravity gnarvana. Thanks cheers
I love the line of straight down tube from head tube to bottom bracket unlikely fugly Yeti SB130/150
Question: I have a Giant Reign with 180mm Travel in the front. This is how I purchased it second hand. The thing is a nightmare to climb as expected. I was wondering if installing say 160mm shocks up front would make a difference to uphills or will it not actually effect it due to the head angle. Basically what I want to know is, is my problem head angle or shock travel? Thanks :)
What things should be considered when getting ready to buy a new full suspension mountain bike? In other words, I think I'm going to buy one via internet or mail order bike, but I'm coming from a 2017 Santa Cruz Chameleon which a hard trail bike. My Santa Cruz is a blast to ride so should I consider something with similar numbers when it comes to geometry? I'm just afraid of buying something online without actually having the opportunity to test it first like you do in our local bike shops. Thanks in advance.
I love what’s offered in the GX build but I am a little nervous about the Stan’s wheel set as I am known for obliterating hub internals and cracking rims. Does anyone have any experience with this wheel Set?
What I thought to be a shock noise on my bike turned out to be my seat post. I had neglected to grease it.
Given the geometry numbers I want to know how this compares to the stump jumper evo
Does it have a drain hole on the bottom of the downtube? I’ve got a Carbon scout from a few years ago and that’s my major issue with it... no drain hole, living in Scotland the bike needs a wash pretty much every time it goes out, if you absentmindedly spray the head tube with the hose the frame fills up with water - my old bandit had one so it obviously something transition did, no idea why they stopped...
Liking this bike. Hoping for a new Smuggler
Can you guys check out the pivot mach 6? I am between it and the firebird. Cant get a demo of the mach 6 but the firebird felt great other that the light front in climbing
Looks like they made the Bird AM9 a couple of years after Bird did 😊😃
Kazimer is the kind of Asperger (?) robot I wouldn't like to spend a party with, but except this: pretty good review.
do you run tire inserts with the reviews? particularly with this one?
How does it climb compared to the original Sentinel?
This may not seem relevant, but does anybody know what bottle cage is on that Sentinel? Looks sick. I think I need it
Will Transition be brining out a new model of this? I'm in the UK and it's out of stock everywhere - only their alloy bikes seem to be available these days.
This bike looks fun!🤘🏼
My dh bike has a steeper head angle , i think 63.5 is just a tad to slack .
Beatiful beatiful rocker link, nice details
Are you in Bellinham? such a nice area for MTB, I live in Seattle right now :)
Kazimer needs to work out his ape-index. With arms like that he would make an awesome climber
Hi. Do you have experience with Marin alpine trail c2? I want to buy a Transition Sentinel and discovered Marin. The geometry is almost the same on paper, the Marin is only 1 cm longer in the front and 1 cm shorter in the rear, to put it simply (the reach is a centimeter longer and the chain stays are a centimeter shorter... And the price of the Marin is unbeatable... Thanks a lot for the answer, Pavel.
Would be cool to compare this to the new Wreckoning
MAN I love this bike!
What about the shock noise❓what was the problem ❓
Salsa Spearfish Base model review.
it's s not very popular but please give it a review.
How about the cable routing? Is the rear brake cable outside?
Could you make review of ns bikes define 150 1 ?
the loam gold color is soo sick...
where's the new smuggler ?
What trail is that at 2:40? looks fun :) also, sick bike!
I love that color!
Would be interested to hear more about the knocking noise. My mate Steve has a version 1 sentinel and tried two different shocks (air and coil) and the knocking noise was there with both. Could this be a fundamental design flaw? Thanks MKF
i believe in the early versions of the v2 and the old v1's the seatstay/chainstay bolts were too long and actually bottomed out on themselves before taking up the space.
MOAR GRIM DONUT, BABY
Id love a video like this on the devinci troy 29
Aqui no Brasil é quanto emmm???
More solo videos needed from you mate .really refreshing to be able to hear your well thought out opinion without the yappy dog levy ;) trying to be class clown .good work
Looks great. Wicked heel-rub on that chainstay. Does Kazimer ride heels in?
That's from a bunch of muddy rides with flat pedals - I'd recommend a strip of protective tape to help prevent that. - Mike
@@pinkbike Great video, how do you compare the transition sentinel with the Commencal Meta TR 2021 that you have recently reviewed? Which one is more playful and inspire more confidence on the descents? Many thanks
New Patrol too?!
Take a shot everytime Mike says "lil"
The new transition stumpjumper evo is pretty cool
LiveFreeandShred umm, this looks nothing like a stumpy mate
LiveFreeandShred yo I’ve watched some of your esc videos before 🤙
Someone wants to trade me this sentinel for my 2020 specialized evo carbon. I. Your opinion should I do it?
Beautiful Bike
how was the climbing compared to the Scout?
no idea
Nice look
Chuckanut Ridge Trail!
BHAM rocks.
Love everything about it. Too bad there isn't a 27.5 version of it. At least there's the Scout. It's got a half degree steeper HA and 10mm less travel in the front and rear, but at least I won't have to deal with the tire rubbing my butt.
I've noticed the butt-buzz on a few 29ers I've demo'd lately. Makes me prefer 27.5. The last on my list to try though is the Ibis Ripley
The Scout is literally the Sentinel as a 27.5 bike. You can swap the shocks from the Sentinel to the Scout and vice versa. Run the Sentinels 62.5 stroke shock and the Scout has 150mm out back. Bump the Scouts fork to 160, which just requires a 160 air shaft for 40$, and the Scout is the 27.5 version of the Sentinel.
I can find out the price????
This bike looks similar to La Sal Peak, too.
How much of a bike’s feeling on the trail comes down to suspension tune and or setup? With all the dials and switches on modern suspension I feel like you could make a bike feel entirely different with just some minor tweaks. I wish this was addressed more in reviews.
Good observation. My Santa Cruz HTLT goes from a plowing ox to a nimble cheetah when flipping the shock from open to trail mode.
I’m a novice as far as suspension setup, but I know that Transition says their Sentinel can go from poppy and playful to rough terrain plowing.
Mayby one day!
This new one is basically a norco sight
Soooo sick bro...
'Nothing silly expensive.. yeah $5499'../ thanks for reminding how freaking broke I am..
BTW, just curious, how rich do these reviewers think we? how many bikers just sit with $5K in cash waiting to throw at every new bike that comes in the market?
@CHELSKI9 right... i can finance a 7k dirtbike but i cant finance a 3k or a 10k bike
@CHELSKI9 do you not have finance options? In the UK was have finance companies offering 0% interest from 12-48 months. Just ordered this at £80 per month 👍
440m chainstay? It looks so small
Just wondering can i use 29er wheels on a 27.5 full suspension frame? Tnx
Almost never. Only a few bikes are designed for both.
@@doncrescas Thanks!
Last question, in your honest opinion is it good to mix up drivetrains..shifters and rd for sram then shimano for brakes? Or shimano xt groupset is better than sram gx eagle? Tnx
@@zachaxel4403 it's fine to mix brakes with a different drivetrain. In the higher end lines you just lose the ease of integration. It's also fine to use one brand crankset on another band drivetrain. Honestly I think that Shimano xls is quite good and you are not losing much in terms of function compared to more expensive groupsets. Between sram and Shimano brakes is now more a personal preference on feel and whether you prefer mineral oil over dot fluid.
@@doncrescas Noted..Thanks!
I’m still deciding between this and the yt Izzo
They're totally different. If you want something that absolutely ploughs descents and feels like a enduro-lite bike, grab a Sentinel! (I have one)
The Izzo is a dedicated trail bike, much lighter, more agile, better pedalling and much less slack.
A Norco Optic would split the difference between the two perfectly ☺️
Edit: if you're set on a YT, the Jeffsy is more comparable to a Sentinel, and even that's less aggressive.
Those 2 are not alike.
Anyone ride a transition. I’m looking at this and the scout. Just wondering about quality.
I need this bike
People post pics of the dirt under their shock?
Good bike! #nicebike
Anyone compare this to a Santa Cruz?
What would the world do without a dropper post?!
Looks like a Fuji Auric LT.
"Love It" 🙉🙊🙈🥳
Nice 👍
It’s literally the new Norco sight
Glad I'm not the only one who wondered about that.
Compare the Sentinel and Sight pls, that'd be a really interesting video bc im interested in both
He kind of does, it's at the end of the video. Maybe watch the whole thing before commenting.
@@_Vicarious no I did but they didn't go into detail and do laps on the same course then talk about noticeable characteristics and differences other than mid stroke and end stroke support
@@rosshannigan663 Fair enough then.
nice fence
Seems to chip easily
Iv own a couple of full suspension bikes. Just doesn't come close to climbing like my xtr hardtail.
I will own the 2020 scout once the price drops in 2021. Hoping it drops sooner due to all you 29er lovers. So go on keep praising the giant wheels so I can buy cheaper bikes!
Make a review on the 2018 cannondale trigger 2
"let's check the new transition norco sight"
I am riding the sight now and was amazed at how similar they are.
davide marzocchini “let’s check the new transition norco sight that wants to look like a trek slash”
Norco has size specific chain stays & solid alu options so there are 2 wins there
@@zyoungson215 Totally, I think the Sight is an incredible deal offering the AL options
I got one less then a year ago. So of course they had to come out with the new one. 🙄
Still happy with my red sexy swoopy sentinel
Geoff Goldplum oh yeah. Like the old design wayyyy more
Same here!
Much like More Powah Baby, but this one is More Travel Baby