Decoying Essex Pigeons

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  • We met up with pigeon shooter Paul Payne to learn all about the art of pigeon decoying.
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  • @Rooky182003
    @Rooky182003 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I’d pay good money to spend a day in a hide with Paul, a real pigeon shooter that knows his stuff and gets results. That sort of knowledge is priceless

  • @GeoffreyEduard
    @GeoffreyEduard ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an amazing man. I think everyone can learn a lot from him.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very kind thank you 👍paul

  • @peterparsons7141
    @peterparsons7141 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m an older man, very experienced hunter. In Canada Pigeon shooting is not widely practiced, often limited to pest control. I just retired and moved to a rural location with many dairy and other farms surrounding. With the intention’s of gaining permission to waterfowl hunt at these farms, I have started to actively pursue Pigeons.
    Bouncing around the interwebworld, until I found this video. I gained more than enough information to get the work started. So obvious this man is expert, his advice adds the pigeon dimension to the things I’ve learned from years of water-fowling. From shot selection, shooting distance, decoy deployment and blind setup.
    Now all I need is an auto-wiper motor and a few hours in the shop. Really excellent information and fun video.
    The pigeons here in the Ottawa area have never seen a decoy, and are only now starting to avoid my truck..so it time to step things up. The local farmers and I thank you..these rock doves are a real pest, lots of equipment damage with droppings covering everything and populations fairly large and increasing.

  • @996TOM1
    @996TOM1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great film and lovely to see somebody actually explain the methods of pigeon shooting . Explaining the art of watching the flight line , taking notice of the wind direction , etc .hide building . Not just watching somebody shoot the birds all the time . Well done Paul and TGS .

  • @chadington6029
    @chadington6029 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you Jonny, I'm a Yank and I really appreciate all you've done to showcase Britain's hunting and sport shooting aspects.

  • @matthewsmith230
    @matthewsmith230 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is a brilliant video. I've been pigeon shooting for years now but it's always great seeing how another people do things

  • @Cats.Hammers.
    @Cats.Hammers. ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a lovely, top bloke. A masterclass in pigeon shooting.

  • @jessehawkins392
    @jessehawkins392 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What an awesome video. This bloke clearly knows his stuff! Would love to see more of this!

  • @dashooting6595
    @dashooting6595 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d say this has been the best I’ve watched for information, Paul speaks and explains perfectly. Well presented.

  • @markbutler1616
    @markbutler1616 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Such a calm and logical approach. Reliance on field craft can't be beaten. As Paul says - why make it hard for yourself? Thanks for posting 👍👍

  • @ballisticsmeg
    @ballisticsmeg ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Some 40 odd years ago Paul brings a shotgun into School for a class room end of term talk and exam.. Nice to see he's still at it! I think you passed ✔

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      That brings back memories, who is this plz ?

    • @ballisticsmeg
      @ballisticsmeg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpayne1264 Hi Paul, its a crazy world we now live in? Regards 👍Andrew Coe

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ballisticsmeg now that is a long time ago lol hope you’re keeping well, kind regards Paul 🤝

  • @redduc9523
    @redduc9523 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an enjoyable video! Boy oh boy I felt like I was in the blind with you guys. What a great amount of info in such a causal conversational way! Thanks and hope you guys go out again!

  • @brianspencer3192
    @brianspencer3192 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who’d love to spend the day in the hide with this man very professional

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kind words thank you, paul

  • @allanschreffler6247
    @allanschreffler6247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video. I rarely ever watch shooting videos because I find them distasteful as they focus only on the kill. Paul is obviously a wealth of knowledge, respectful, and a gentleman in the field. Good show gentlemen.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, keep watching tgs for more films, thank you 👍

  • @rufusduck71
    @rufusduck71 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much wisdom .the truth behind someone who has been doing this for decades .

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      46years now and enjoying every day , thanks, Paul

  • @SarahMeers-oi6mi
    @SarahMeers-oi6mi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great clip, learn’t some good points,Paul knows he’s shooting. Thanks all.

  • @annrobinson4951
    @annrobinson4951 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now then Johnny, Paul talked a lot of good facts on shooting pigeon. In our experience a good days pigeoning is great and they are a very sporting bird. They are also tasty to eat!! A really informative, interesting video with no egos on show! Malc and Ann Lincolnshire xxx

  • @suzannespall3112
    @suzannespall3112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting and informative. Nice to hear Paul explaining his methods so clearly, with reasons given. A real ambassador to his sport.

  • @darrenlaithwaite7810
    @darrenlaithwaite7810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Johnny, love listening to people talk that are really knowledgeable and passionate about what they do. He reminds me of my late uncle who worked in the country side.

  • @rogergoodwin5533
    @rogergoodwin5533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Learned way more than expeced I could. Many aspects involved very educational. Thanks.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks, Paul

  • @marksharp1443
    @marksharp1443 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best pigeon shooting video I’ve seen very entertaining superb knowledge with an easy style thanks

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks, paul

  • @K80Ed
    @K80Ed ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Top bloke is Paul!

  • @garyholliday5169
    @garyholliday5169 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video … Paul is clearly a Master at his craft and it was a pleasure listening to his advice 👏👏

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your reply 👍paul

  • @chadnolte9134
    @chadnolte9134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showing and sharing this wisdom from a seasoned wing shooter. Great stuf.

  • @levischenk2668
    @levischenk2668 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful film! Thank you guys so much. Looking forward to the next.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep watching tgs for next films 👍paul

  • @nicke6394
    @nicke6394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely brilliant video 👏👏. One of the best I’ve ever watched 👍

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks, Paul

  • @keithewing8026
    @keithewing8026 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great agricultural theme and the shooting (and life) lesson speaks for itself. Right on, Jonny.

  • @ryangardener242
    @ryangardener242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant, what a interesting chap ! Best video yet cheers

  • @jaycallum8433
    @jaycallum8433 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fantastic video, so much real genuine knowledge and advice in half an hour.

  • @nickallen5477
    @nickallen5477 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed that one guys! Cheers from Oz

  • @davidcaul7836
    @davidcaul7836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time I have heard someone talking real sense about pigeon shooting in every one listed to him they would shoot pigeons and save themselves a few bob great video

  • @peterlavelle567
    @peterlavelle567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo TGS! Some great tips in there, only legal bird shooting in my neck of the woods is for crop protection (mainly ducks over rice) and I think many of the lessons here could be applied very well! Might have to add a day on the pigeons to the list next time I am back in ol’ blighty!

  • @kenstevens7064
    @kenstevens7064 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you guys learnt a lot from that

  • @JHruby
    @JHruby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr. Payne's experience and simple techniques are wonderful to see. Real experience cutting through all the bulls#it. Terrific video.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣nice to hear thanks, Paul

  • @joeltowle2737
    @joeltowle2737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love this! Thank you so much!

  • @zowiefenderblast4602
    @zowiefenderblast4602 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Next time you're in the US you should do a little wild pig hunting.

  • @claussandberg6863
    @claussandberg6863 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video- and very good informative points on setting up hide, decoys and not least discipline in the hide

  • @markwierzbicki5307
    @markwierzbicki5307 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video, with lots of information to take away. Every day is a school day!

  • @peterheath8618
    @peterheath8618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant as usual Jonny and team, nice to see some pigeon shooting featured. Would love to see some roost shooting too.

  • @donhughes8465
    @donhughes8465 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd go on a course with Paul as a tutor. What an amazing fount of knowledge he is!

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lots more to come so please keep watching tgs 👍

  • @jimandmarypowell9783
    @jimandmarypowell9783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many useful hints in this film, well worth watching. Well done all! Nice to hear the word 'commitment'. Always watch the bird from cover until it's looking down to land, then get up to shoot. The bit about cammo is true, you never need it, neutral colours are fine but keep still.

  • @5_star_stays
    @5_star_stays ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Absolutely fascinating.

  • @davidliddle7998
    @davidliddle7998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Really enjoyed watching. Made me need to go out shooting

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t beat it thanks, paul

  • @jahunterplus2809
    @jahunterplus2809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video man love watching your video bless up

  • @alanpearce2322
    @alanpearce2322 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s a great video. Learned a lot and some terrific new techniques to try. Seems I’ve been doing a lot wrong. Cheers guys 👍

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all never stop learning, thank you, Paul

  • @m4tty12
    @m4tty12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always! 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @gferguson73
    @gferguson73 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really informative video thank you 👍

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for comment, keep watching tgs for more 👍paul

  • @herrmauser1066
    @herrmauser1066 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pigeon shooting on a good day is fantastic. Very good hunting bird and fantastic to eat also.

  • @perrypappous7617
    @perrypappous7617 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. Could not have had a better companion in the hide. Congratulations. Perry P. California, USA

  • @cbfrv
    @cbfrv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love wood pigeon hunting, but here in Portugal we mainly use tame
    domesticated pigeons as decoys, excellent hunting, congratulations !

  • @davidsanders3114
    @davidsanders3114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, really enjoyed that, very informative👍

  • @Gorpmeat
    @Gorpmeat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video with great tips from a master, thanks for this

  • @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
    @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kushty vid , old school pigeon shooter , not dripping in camo , just knows his game 👍

  • @alanbristow8476
    @alanbristow8476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a fantastic vid the best pigeon shooting vid I have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @DJONES8610
      @DJONES8610 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not seen many then

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that Alan, Paul 👍

  • @darellkettley6622
    @darellkettley6622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Johnny what your doing down my neck of the woods!! Should have popped in for a beer 🍻great video Lads 👊

  • @n.j.dougherty4872
    @n.j.dougherty4872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very similar to our dove shoots. Same basic rules. Really enjoyed the video. A little different from your gun reviews. Thank you👍👍

  • @malcolmpenfold7226
    @malcolmpenfold7226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video very enjoyable

  • @GODylan
    @GODylan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for making this video, would like to see more of this type of content!

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully this summer 👍

  • @kevingoodyear5869
    @kevingoodyear5869 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant video 👌🏻

  • @marksharp1443
    @marksharp1443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great video thanks

  • @pclarke70
    @pclarke70 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, great tips, makes me yearn for warmer days on the fields, something to look forward to after duck season 😁😁 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @recklesseric59
    @recklesseric59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video how somebody else does it, very entertaining!

  • @George_Ren
    @George_Ren ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good & interesting video. Cheers

  • @leestringer8881
    @leestringer8881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From a personal experience you think you know everything about pigeon shooting then you talk to Paul…! This bloke knows his stuff.

  • @TargetBreaker1234
    @TargetBreaker1234 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, really informative and a pleasure to watch and learn from someone so experienced.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s kind thank you, paul

    • @TargetBreaker1234
      @TargetBreaker1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpayne1264 would be great to see more Paul, esp a day with your friend with the double hide set up

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok will try 👍

  • @lusitanooutdoorchannel680
    @lusitanooutdoorchannel680 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Johnny, can you please give a piece of advice? I'm saving money to buy my first High-Performance Steel Proof gun. I've seen the Franchi Affinity 3 with the wood stock, and it seems to be a nice work horse gun. Is it High-Performance Steel Proof?

  • @G78.
    @G78. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant Jonny wood pigeon shooting is fantastic love these type of videos Could you do another Wildfowling video the last couple were great 👍

  • @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569
    @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muy chebres sus lances de cazerias amigos saludos

  • @alexheyesshooting6541
    @alexheyesshooting6541 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Some very technical information. Paul is a master of his craft with so much knowledge.

  • @michael-in1vy
    @michael-in1vy ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me what make them ear defenders are you are using Jonny? .
    Off to the shooting show next month and thinking on getting a pair
    Thanks , Mick

  • @Sageofthedustypage
    @Sageofthedustypage ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video

  • @sammoseley6926
    @sammoseley6926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good shot

  • @derek876544
    @derek876544 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where did you get the light coloured cam net from please ?

  • @davidliddle7998
    @davidliddle7998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, really enjoyed it,quick question do you still decoy when it's raining,do you find they still come in .

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi, although pigeons will feed in the rain last thing before roost to get their last feed they tend not to flight that well in heavy rain, regards Paul

  • @jonpettet7085
    @jonpettet7085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need pest control,on average a farmer will lose 500 pounds each year through pigeons on crops.
    I've learnt a lot from this video, and been doing this for over 35 years!Great video 👍

  • @danhill6333
    @danhill6333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great episode. Very informative. I know I'm guilty of springing up. I don't know if Ryan H has learned anyfing since our last time in the hide, but I'll be sure to tag him on IG.

  • @dalefowkes8411
    @dalefowkes8411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Master class

  • @mrsmith906
    @mrsmith906 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some quality content with reasoning for actions rather than just " Do this, do that." No need to even risk standing up though. I hardly ever stand to shoot. With the right decoy set up to get the bird where you want it and also a low hide front, it's just mount & shoot. The fine scrim hide material (like net curtain) is a big improvement over trad hide netting for the top edges ;-)

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, many thanks for comment, I like scrim but on sunny days it does not do the eyes any good rather than looking through large clear holes in the net like I use 👍

  • @ShotawayFilms
    @ShotawayFilms ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ''simply the best''.

  • @andrewkay3811
    @andrewkay3811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Paul..dont think my comment went through..well done ! nice video...use dead birds most of the time..but liked those decoys ..but can't find any on the Decatholon sites any contact details please. Kr Andrew....

  • @stevenporter5056
    @stevenporter5056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @kenlansing1216
    @kenlansing1216 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pigeons have always been my hardest bird to hit.

  • @jimwiggins7479
    @jimwiggins7479 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am very interested in the hide poles and netting that you are using . I reside in the eastern south of the US. We hunt doves on peanut fields and there is absolutely no cover to hide in so needless to say long shots are more the norm and quite frustrating. Need some help thanks.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, the hide poles are available on net from uk, telescopic ones are the best with a good ground spike, my nets are also same as above but I cut mine about and add light net to the green net so it is not dark or one mass colour, kind regards Paul

    • @andrewkay3811
      @andrewkay3811 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Paul..yes nice video..I agree with all you say..I do shoot pigeon 5 days a week and now after 50 years of it love a 40 to 60 day..got 61 today on our own rape..
      I must have 150 different decoys in my workshop and still a sucker for new ones ha...I like those ...you said Decatholon but I can't find them anywhere..could you please let me know a number or contact.thank you....All the best..Happy hunting Andrew Kay..

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, I can find pics on net but can’t find them for sale now! Maybe withdrawn, try decathlon in France or tel one of the stores in the uk to find out why, tel number will be on net, kind regards Paul

    • @andrewkay3811
      @andrewkay3811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Paul Payne Thanks Paul...I had found them on French sites and they had sold out too..that's your fault..
      ha ! Which UK store did you get them from..I don't think they're flock coated are they..I keep mine in a bag like you .
      I have a v at the right of the hide shaped to hold gun by right hand grip appx 1m off the floor with the barrel just over the net top..makes for very quick mount from below the bird for the those that catch you...just gone to 20 bore auto 24gm steel..still getting 70 %kill and no headaches..have shot over 450,000 pigeon 10 to 12000 a year and headaches starting to be a problem and dog deafness...a lot of people over the top with cartridges I think..before that I shot 1 oz eley vip steel for as long as I can remember always using half choke autos ..
      Best wishes Andrew..

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewkay3811 hi , I think they were withdrawn in uk, or so I heard, because they made a mistake on their site saying they sell pigeon and thrush shooting seats and got a lot of abuse re thrushes as we don’t do that in uk, the only thing I could suggest is finding them online in France and have them sent to uk, with all plastic coys if you allow them to rub together they will mark so I made some little sacks stapled together to prevent that 👍kind regards Paul

  • @Cuccos19
    @Cuccos19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, I wish you would do the same video with ring-necked parakeets. As far as I know they are not protected by the law in the UK, and they also a menace around farms and vineyards.

  • @petertheobald1653
    @petertheobald1653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see the myths about pigeon shooting exploded.

  • @roi354
    @roi354 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do I contact Paul? I'd love to have a day sitting with him in a hide in Essex!
    I met him one morning at a local farm where he was about to set up and wish I'd known who he was back then.

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did we meet up ? Paul

    • @roi354
      @roi354 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpayne1264 Paslow farm, just outside Ongar

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roi354 hi, can’t remember the day, it’s a sign of old age lol Paul 👍

    • @roi354
      @roi354 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulpayne1264 How do I contact you Paul?

  • @jacobzirkle9153
    @jacobzirkle9153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I get those hide poles

    • @Retired-Tom
      @Retired-Tom ปีที่แล้ว

      A1 Decoys

    • @paulpayne1264
      @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, the hide poles I was using in film was not a1 decoys ! I have had these poles for some 30 years and were designed and made by Tony orchard, he was a professional pigeon guide back then, his company was called, apple sporting products, no company to my my knowledge makes the double extended poles that have a very strong kicker plate on the base, still using them today, the best ever made !!! Kind regards Paul

  • @paulpayne1264
    @paulpayne1264 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @alanarmer8069
    @alanarmer8069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    👍👍🦌🦌🐕🐕👍👍

  • @chrissywhiskers
    @chrissywhiskers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and everything but that dude is as tall as JC!😅

  • @bobbyainscough6417
    @bobbyainscough6417 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need ant back

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Filming with him Monday!

  • @roadbull1
    @roadbull1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video - thanks for posting. Prepare to be demonetized :(

  • @rastamoose
    @rastamoose ปีที่แล้ว

    I love shooting and all but i do driven and the machines are scary bro 💀 imagine going and seeing loads of people with machines moving them and impaled after coming home for dinner 💀😭

  • @spanishjohn420
    @spanishjohn420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:33 what is that attachment on the barrel?

  • @dandylion1987
    @dandylion1987 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is so cruel. Ah well off to the shop for an extra tasty chicken 🥴

  • @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569
    @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569 ปีที่แล้ว

    🇪🇨🇪🇨👍🤝

  • @davidpayne7898
    @davidpayne7898 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised he's got so much flesh showing

  • @matthewdeepblue
    @matthewdeepblue ปีที่แล้ว

    Turkey hunting that wouldn't work, they see REALLY well

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens to the birds, breasts eaten?

  • @michellecoquelin1529
    @michellecoquelin1529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nul ce n'est pas de la chasse mais dublabla.