I’d pay good money to spend a day in a hide with Paul, a real pigeon shooter that knows his stuff and gets results. That sort of knowledge is priceless
Great film and lovely to see somebody actually explain the methods of pigeon shooting . Explaining the art of watching the flight line , taking notice of the wind direction , etc .hide building . Not just watching somebody shoot the birds all the time . Well done Paul and TGS .
I’m an older man, very experienced hunter. In Canada Pigeon shooting is not widely practiced, often limited to pest control. I just retired and moved to a rural location with many dairy and other farms surrounding. With the intention’s of gaining permission to waterfowl hunt at these farms, I have started to actively pursue Pigeons. Bouncing around the interwebworld, until I found this video. I gained more than enough information to get the work started. So obvious this man is expert, his advice adds the pigeon dimension to the things I’ve learned from years of water-fowling. From shot selection, shooting distance, decoy deployment and blind setup. Now all I need is an auto-wiper motor and a few hours in the shop. Really excellent information and fun video. The pigeons here in the Ottawa area have never seen a decoy, and are only now starting to avoid my truck..so it time to step things up. The local farmers and I thank you..these rock doves are a real pest, lots of equipment damage with droppings covering everything and populations fairly large and increasing.
Some 40 odd years ago Paul brings a shotgun into School for a class room end of term talk and exam.. Nice to see he's still at it! I think you passed ✔
What an enjoyable video! Boy oh boy I felt like I was in the blind with you guys. What a great amount of info in such a causal conversational way! Thanks and hope you guys go out again!
Now then Johnny, Paul talked a lot of good facts on shooting pigeon. In our experience a good days pigeoning is great and they are a very sporting bird. They are also tasty to eat!! A really informative, interesting video with no egos on show! Malc and Ann Lincolnshire xxx
Fantastic video. I rarely ever watch shooting videos because I find them distasteful as they focus only on the kill. Paul is obviously a wealth of knowledge, respectful, and a gentleman in the field. Good show gentlemen.
Great video Johnny, love listening to people talk that are really knowledgeable and passionate about what they do. He reminds me of my late uncle who worked in the country side.
First time I have heard someone talking real sense about pigeon shooting in every one listed to him they would shoot pigeons and save themselves a few bob great video
Bravo TGS! Some great tips in there, only legal bird shooting in my neck of the woods is for crop protection (mainly ducks over rice) and I think many of the lessons here could be applied very well! Might have to add a day on the pigeons to the list next time I am back in ol’ blighty!
Many useful hints in this film, well worth watching. Well done all! Nice to hear the word 'commitment'. Always watch the bird from cover until it's looking down to land, then get up to shoot. The bit about cammo is true, you never need it, neutral colours are fine but keep still.
We need pest control,on average a farmer will lose 500 pounds each year through pigeons on crops. I've learnt a lot from this video, and been doing this for over 35 years!Great video 👍
Hi, although pigeons will feed in the rain last thing before roost to get their last feed they tend not to flight that well in heavy rain, regards Paul
Hello Johnny, can you please give a piece of advice? I'm saving money to buy my first High-Performance Steel Proof gun. I've seen the Franchi Affinity 3 with the wood stock, and it seems to be a nice work horse gun. Is it High-Performance Steel Proof?
Some quality content with reasoning for actions rather than just " Do this, do that." No need to even risk standing up though. I hardly ever stand to shoot. With the right decoy set up to get the bird where you want it and also a low hide front, it's just mount & shoot. The fine scrim hide material (like net curtain) is a big improvement over trad hide netting for the top edges ;-)
Hi, many thanks for comment, I like scrim but on sunny days it does not do the eyes any good rather than looking through large clear holes in the net like I use 👍
Can you tell me what make them ear defenders are you are using Jonny? . Off to the shooting show next month and thinking on getting a pair Thanks , Mick
Hi Paul..dont think my comment went through..well done ! nice video...use dead birds most of the time..but liked those decoys ..but can't find any on the Decatholon sites any contact details please. Kr Andrew....
Great episode. Very informative. I know I'm guilty of springing up. I don't know if Ryan H has learned anyfing since our last time in the hide, but I'll be sure to tag him on IG.
I am very interested in the hide poles and netting that you are using . I reside in the eastern south of the US. We hunt doves on peanut fields and there is absolutely no cover to hide in so needless to say long shots are more the norm and quite frustrating. Need some help thanks.
Hi, the hide poles are available on net from uk, telescopic ones are the best with a good ground spike, my nets are also same as above but I cut mine about and add light net to the green net so it is not dark or one mass colour, kind regards Paul
Hi Paul..yes nice video..I agree with all you say..I do shoot pigeon 5 days a week and now after 50 years of it love a 40 to 60 day..got 61 today on our own rape.. I must have 150 different decoys in my workshop and still a sucker for new ones ha...I like those ...you said Decatholon but I can't find them anywhere..could you please let me know a number or contact.thank you....All the best..Happy hunting Andrew Kay..
Hi, I can find pics on net but can’t find them for sale now! Maybe withdrawn, try decathlon in France or tel one of the stores in the uk to find out why, tel number will be on net, kind regards Paul
@Paul Payne Thanks Paul...I had found them on French sites and they had sold out too..that's your fault.. ha ! Which UK store did you get them from..I don't think they're flock coated are they..I keep mine in a bag like you . I have a v at the right of the hide shaped to hold gun by right hand grip appx 1m off the floor with the barrel just over the net top..makes for very quick mount from below the bird for the those that catch you...just gone to 20 bore auto 24gm steel..still getting 70 %kill and no headaches..have shot over 450,000 pigeon 10 to 12000 a year and headaches starting to be a problem and dog deafness...a lot of people over the top with cartridges I think..before that I shot 1 oz eley vip steel for as long as I can remember always using half choke autos .. Best wishes Andrew..
@@andrewkay3811 hi , I think they were withdrawn in uk, or so I heard, because they made a mistake on their site saying they sell pigeon and thrush shooting seats and got a lot of abuse re thrushes as we don’t do that in uk, the only thing I could suggest is finding them online in France and have them sent to uk, with all plastic coys if you allow them to rub together they will mark so I made some little sacks stapled together to prevent that 👍kind regards Paul
Hi, the hide poles I was using in film was not a1 decoys ! I have had these poles for some 30 years and were designed and made by Tony orchard, he was a professional pigeon guide back then, his company was called, apple sporting products, no company to my my knowledge makes the double extended poles that have a very strong kicker plate on the base, still using them today, the best ever made !!! Kind regards Paul
Oh, I wish you would do the same video with ring-necked parakeets. As far as I know they are not protected by the law in the UK, and they also a menace around farms and vineyards.
How do I contact Paul? I'd love to have a day sitting with him in a hide in Essex! I met him one morning at a local farm where he was about to set up and wish I'd known who he was back then.
I love shooting and all but i do driven and the machines are scary bro 💀 imagine going and seeing loads of people with machines moving them and impaled after coming home for dinner 💀😭
Nature is really messed up. When you take out overpopulation, all you do is have more food for the ones that are left. Creating healthier birds. Populating more often. Over population will take care of itself when there's not enough food and they get weak and sickly. But most farmers don't have the luxury of time.
I’d pay good money to spend a day in a hide with Paul, a real pigeon shooter that knows his stuff and gets results. That sort of knowledge is priceless
Great film and lovely to see somebody actually explain the methods of pigeon shooting . Explaining the art of watching the flight line , taking notice of the wind direction , etc .hide building . Not just watching somebody shoot the birds all the time . Well done Paul and TGS .
👍Paul
Thank you Jonny, I'm a Yank and I really appreciate all you've done to showcase Britain's hunting and sport shooting aspects.
What an amazing man. I think everyone can learn a lot from him.
Very kind thank you 👍paul
This is a brilliant video. I've been pigeon shooting for years now but it's always great seeing how another people do things
👍paul
I’m an older man, very experienced hunter. In Canada Pigeon shooting is not widely practiced, often limited to pest control. I just retired and moved to a rural location with many dairy and other farms surrounding. With the intention’s of gaining permission to waterfowl hunt at these farms, I have started to actively pursue Pigeons.
Bouncing around the interwebworld, until I found this video. I gained more than enough information to get the work started. So obvious this man is expert, his advice adds the pigeon dimension to the things I’ve learned from years of water-fowling. From shot selection, shooting distance, decoy deployment and blind setup.
Now all I need is an auto-wiper motor and a few hours in the shop. Really excellent information and fun video.
The pigeons here in the Ottawa area have never seen a decoy, and are only now starting to avoid my truck..so it time to step things up. The local farmers and I thank you..these rock doves are a real pest, lots of equipment damage with droppings covering everything and populations fairly large and increasing.
Archie Coats videos are a blaste from the past you might enjoy if you've not seen already 👍
I’d say this has been the best I’ve watched for information, Paul speaks and explains perfectly. Well presented.
Many thanks, paul
What an awesome video. This bloke clearly knows his stuff! Would love to see more of this!
Such a calm and logical approach. Reliance on field craft can't be beaten. As Paul says - why make it hard for yourself? Thanks for posting 👍👍
Many thanks, paul
Learned way more than expeced I could. Many aspects involved very educational. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks, Paul
Some 40 odd years ago Paul brings a shotgun into School for a class room end of term talk and exam.. Nice to see he's still at it! I think you passed ✔
That brings back memories, who is this plz ?
@@paulpayne1264 Hi Paul, its a crazy world we now live in? Regards 👍Andrew Coe
@@ballisticsmeg now that is a long time ago lol hope you’re keeping well, kind regards Paul 🤝
What an enjoyable video! Boy oh boy I felt like I was in the blind with you guys. What a great amount of info in such a causal conversational way! Thanks and hope you guys go out again!
👍paul
What a lovely, top bloke. A masterclass in pigeon shooting.
Thank you, paul
So much wisdom .the truth behind someone who has been doing this for decades .
46years now and enjoying every day , thanks, Paul
Now then Johnny, Paul talked a lot of good facts on shooting pigeon. In our experience a good days pigeoning is great and they are a very sporting bird. They are also tasty to eat!! A really informative, interesting video with no egos on show! Malc and Ann Lincolnshire xxx
👍paul
Very interesting and informative. Nice to hear Paul explaining his methods so clearly, with reasons given. A real ambassador to his sport.
👍
Fantastic video. I rarely ever watch shooting videos because I find them distasteful as they focus only on the kill. Paul is obviously a wealth of knowledge, respectful, and a gentleman in the field. Good show gentlemen.
Glad you enjoyed it, keep watching tgs for more films, thank you 👍
Great video Johnny, love listening to people talk that are really knowledgeable and passionate about what they do. He reminds me of my late uncle who worked in the country side.
👍Paul
The best pigeon shooting video I’ve seen very entertaining superb knowledge with an easy style thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks, paul
Great clip, learn’t some good points,Paul knows he’s shooting. Thanks all.
Paul is the man!
Wonderful film! Thank you guys so much. Looking forward to the next.
Keep watching tgs for next films 👍paul
First time I have heard someone talking real sense about pigeon shooting in every one listed to him they would shoot pigeons and save themselves a few bob great video
Thanks very much, paul
fantastic video, so much real genuine knowledge and advice in half an hour.
Kind words thanks, paul
Great video … Paul is clearly a Master at his craft and it was a pleasure listening to his advice 👏👏
Thanks for your reply 👍paul
Who’d love to spend the day in the hide with this man very professional
Kind words thank you, paul
Thanks for showing and sharing this wisdom from a seasoned wing shooter. Great stuf.
Mr. Payne's experience and simple techniques are wonderful to see. Real experience cutting through all the bulls#it. Terrific video.
🤣nice to hear thanks, Paul
Top bloke is Paul!
Thanks, Paul
Really enjoyed that one guys! Cheers from Oz
@text1140 thanks
@text1140 thanks guys
I'd go on a course with Paul as a tutor. What an amazing fount of knowledge he is!
Lots more to come so please keep watching tgs 👍
Another great video, with lots of information to take away. Every day is a school day!
👍thank you, paul
Brilliant as usual Jonny and team, nice to see some pigeon shooting featured. Would love to see some roost shooting too.
Keep watching tgs 👍
Absolutely brilliant video 👏👏. One of the best I’ve ever watched 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks, Paul
Excellent video- and very good informative points on setting up hide, decoys and not least discipline in the hide
👍thank you, paul
Brilliant, what a interesting chap ! Best video yet cheers
Many thanks, Paul 👍
I love wood pigeon hunting, but here in Portugal we mainly use tame
domesticated pigeons as decoys, excellent hunting, congratulations !
👍paul
Bravo TGS! Some great tips in there, only legal bird shooting in my neck of the woods is for crop protection (mainly ducks over rice) and I think many of the lessons here could be applied very well! Might have to add a day on the pigeons to the list next time I am back in ol’ blighty!
Many useful hints in this film, well worth watching. Well done all! Nice to hear the word 'commitment'. Always watch the bird from cover until it's looking down to land, then get up to shoot. The bit about cammo is true, you never need it, neutral colours are fine but keep still.
👍paul
Great agricultural theme and the shooting (and life) lesson speaks for itself. Right on, Jonny.
Great video. Really enjoyed watching. Made me need to go out shooting
Can’t beat it thanks, paul
Very interesting video with great tips from a master, thanks for this
Many thanks, paul
pigeon shooting on a good day is fantastic. Very good hunting bird and fantastic to eat also.
Excellent video. Could not have had a better companion in the hide. Congratulations. Perry P. California, USA
Thanks , Paul
Thank you guys learnt a lot from that
What a fantastic vid the best pigeon shooting vid I have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not seen many then
Thanks for that Alan, Paul 👍
Absolutely fascinating.
👍, Paul
Nice video man love watching your video bless up
Next time you're in the US you should do a little wild pig hunting.
Absolutely love this! Thank you so much!
👍, Paul
That’s a great video. Learned a lot and some terrific new techniques to try. Seems I’ve been doing a lot wrong. Cheers guys 👍
We all never stop learning, thank you, Paul
Great video! Some very technical information. Paul is a master of his craft with so much knowledge.
Couldn't agree more!
👍paul
Thank you for making this video, would like to see more of this type of content!
Hopefully this summer 👍
Great video, really enjoyed that, very informative👍
Thank you, paul
Great video as always! 👍🏻👍🏻
👍, paul
Great video very enjoyable
👍 paul
Where did you get the light coloured cam net from please ?
From a personal experience you think you know everything about pigeon shooting then you talk to Paul…! This bloke knows his stuff.
Kind words 👍
We need pest control,on average a farmer will lose 500 pounds each year through pigeons on crops.
I've learnt a lot from this video, and been doing this for over 35 years!Great video 👍
👍paul
Great video, really informative and a pleasure to watch and learn from someone so experienced.
That’s kind thank you, paul
@@paulpayne1264 would be great to see more Paul, esp a day with your friend with the double hide set up
Ok will try 👍
Very similar to our dove shoots. Same basic rules. Really enjoyed the video. A little different from your gun reviews. Thank you👍👍
👍paul
Really informative video thank you 👍
Many thanks for comment, keep watching tgs for more 👍paul
Great video, great tips, makes me yearn for warmer days on the fields, something to look forward to after duck season 😁😁 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
👍paul
Great video, really enjoyed it,quick question do you still decoy when it's raining,do you find they still come in .
Hi, although pigeons will feed in the rain last thing before roost to get their last feed they tend not to flight that well in heavy rain, regards Paul
Brilliant video 👌🏻
😄, paul
Hello Johnny, can you please give a piece of advice? I'm saving money to buy my first High-Performance Steel Proof gun. I've seen the Franchi Affinity 3 with the wood stock, and it seems to be a nice work horse gun. Is it High-Performance Steel Proof?
Great video how somebody else does it, very entertaining!
Thank you, Paul
Kushty vid , old school pigeon shooter , not dripping in camo , just knows his game 👍
Thank you 🤝
Brilliant Jonny wood pigeon shooting is fantastic love these type of videos Could you do another Wildfowling video the last couple were great 👍
👍paul
Johnny what your doing down my neck of the woods!! Should have popped in for a beer 🍻great video Lads 👊
What a great video thanks
👍paul
A good & interesting video. Cheers
👍paul
Some quality content with reasoning for actions rather than just " Do this, do that." No need to even risk standing up though. I hardly ever stand to shoot. With the right decoy set up to get the bird where you want it and also a low hide front, it's just mount & shoot. The fine scrim hide material (like net curtain) is a big improvement over trad hide netting for the top edges ;-)
Hi, many thanks for comment, I like scrim but on sunny days it does not do the eyes any good rather than looking through large clear holes in the net like I use 👍
''simply the best''.
😀paul
Can you tell me what make them ear defenders are you are using Jonny? .
Off to the shooting show next month and thinking on getting a pair
Thanks , Mick
Muy chebres sus lances de cazerias amigos saludos
Great video
Thanks, Paul
Hi Paul..dont think my comment went through..well done ! nice video...use dead birds most of the time..but liked those decoys ..but can't find any on the Decatholon sites any contact details please. Kr Andrew....
Great episode. Very informative. I know I'm guilty of springing up. I don't know if Ryan H has learned anyfing since our last time in the hide, but I'll be sure to tag him on IG.
👍paul
good shot
Nice to see the myths about pigeon shooting exploded.
I am very interested in the hide poles and netting that you are using . I reside in the eastern south of the US. We hunt doves on peanut fields and there is absolutely no cover to hide in so needless to say long shots are more the norm and quite frustrating. Need some help thanks.
Hi, the hide poles are available on net from uk, telescopic ones are the best with a good ground spike, my nets are also same as above but I cut mine about and add light net to the green net so it is not dark or one mass colour, kind regards Paul
Hi Paul..yes nice video..I agree with all you say..I do shoot pigeon 5 days a week and now after 50 years of it love a 40 to 60 day..got 61 today on our own rape..
I must have 150 different decoys in my workshop and still a sucker for new ones ha...I like those ...you said Decatholon but I can't find them anywhere..could you please let me know a number or contact.thank you....All the best..Happy hunting Andrew Kay..
Hi, I can find pics on net but can’t find them for sale now! Maybe withdrawn, try decathlon in France or tel one of the stores in the uk to find out why, tel number will be on net, kind regards Paul
@Paul Payne Thanks Paul...I had found them on French sites and they had sold out too..that's your fault..
ha ! Which UK store did you get them from..I don't think they're flock coated are they..I keep mine in a bag like you .
I have a v at the right of the hide shaped to hold gun by right hand grip appx 1m off the floor with the barrel just over the net top..makes for very quick mount from below the bird for the those that catch you...just gone to 20 bore auto 24gm steel..still getting 70 %kill and no headaches..have shot over 450,000 pigeon 10 to 12000 a year and headaches starting to be a problem and dog deafness...a lot of people over the top with cartridges I think..before that I shot 1 oz eley vip steel for as long as I can remember always using half choke autos ..
Best wishes Andrew..
@@andrewkay3811 hi , I think they were withdrawn in uk, or so I heard, because they made a mistake on their site saying they sell pigeon and thrush shooting seats and got a lot of abuse re thrushes as we don’t do that in uk, the only thing I could suggest is finding them online in France and have them sent to uk, with all plastic coys if you allow them to rub together they will mark so I made some little sacks stapled together to prevent that 👍kind regards Paul
Where can I get those hide poles
A1 Decoys
Hi, the hide poles I was using in film was not a1 decoys ! I have had these poles for some 30 years and were designed and made by Tony orchard, he was a professional pigeon guide back then, his company was called, apple sporting products, no company to my my knowledge makes the double extended poles that have a very strong kicker plate on the base, still using them today, the best ever made !!! Kind regards Paul
Oh, I wish you would do the same video with ring-necked parakeets. As far as I know they are not protected by the law in the UK, and they also a menace around farms and vineyards.
How do I contact Paul? I'd love to have a day sitting with him in a hide in Essex!
I met him one morning at a local farm where he was about to set up and wish I'd known who he was back then.
Where did we meet up ? Paul
@@paulpayne1264 Paslow farm, just outside Ongar
@@roi354 hi, can’t remember the day, it’s a sign of old age lol Paul 👍
@@paulpayne1264 How do I contact you Paul?
Master class
Thank you, Paul
Pigeons have always been my hardest bird to hit.
Nice
We need ant back
Filming with him Monday!
20:33 what is that attachment on the barrel?
It's a Shotkam
@@5_star_stays nice one
👍👍🦌🦌🐕🐕👍👍
Great video and everything but that dude is as tall as JC!😅
He’s a giant!!!
Great video - thanks for posting. Prepare to be demonetized :(
This is so cruel. Ah well off to the shop for an extra tasty chicken 🥴
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I love shooting and all but i do driven and the machines are scary bro 💀 imagine going and seeing loads of people with machines moving them and impaled after coming home for dinner 💀😭
Turkey hunting that wouldn't work, they see REALLY well
Surprised he's got so much flesh showing
What happens to the birds, breasts eaten?
All goes into the food chain (y)
🇪🇨🇪🇨👍🤝
Nature is really messed up. When you take out overpopulation, all you do is have more food for the ones that are left. Creating healthier birds. Populating more often. Over population will take care of itself when there's not enough food and they get weak and sickly. But most farmers don't have the luxury of time.