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In this video I talk about what intelligent disobedience is for guide dogs and service dogs and why I think intelligent disobedience is more aptly named "superseding cues". I show examples of a guide dog working on traffic training, platform training, stair training and refusal, as well as obstacle avoidance training. It's a great opportunity to see the fantastic work a guide dog can do.
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I think this may qualify as 'intelligent disobedience', my service dog started paying an odd amount of attention to my husband. At first I thought that the dog was being disobedient because he wasn't focused so much on me, and then I noticed some details about his actions towards my husband. The dog would sit beside him and put his paw on him when he went to get up. Then he would follow him, but return to me and sit. Long story short, my husband ended up having emergency heart surgery. Bear understood something was wrong before we even knew about the cardio issues.
Hey Jewel! It sounds like Bear was picking up on certain body chemistry from your husband. What a smart pup! Intelligent disobedience is specifically when the dog disregards a cue the handler gave to do another trained behavior, so I don't think that's exactly what happened here. However, it sounds like Bear is super intuitive and picking up on cues that your hubby's body was giving off! I hope your husband is recovering well!
My SD kept alerting to fam member anxiety, they now have a service dog of their own that actually beats the anxiety before it mounts up. They are amazing.
My SD being a herding breed naturally stops me or alerts me without getting taught or found her own way to do it sooner. At age 3 months she prevented a bad situation, she jumped in my arms from the car, at 30 pounds i was annoyed so i sent my dd in the store for me. When we got home i was fainting with a fever. She now alerts me on earlier dehydration prevention pots and teaching me problem vented buildings. She multitasks and is very stubborn for when it counts. Love you videos.
This topic is very close to my heart, as my five service dogs have saved my life many times through this very important training.
My dog started spontaneously stopping to prevent us being hit by cars or bikes. I praised the hell out if Gil for that and basically kade treats fall from the sky. I know literally trust him with my life!
Huh, so “intelligent disobedience” is not some miracle of deep, doggy cognition-it’s behavioral science and a TON of hard work!
What an adorable tail wag at the top of the stairs: “HA, I know this one-it’s a trick question! Treat coming!”
Thank you for pulling the curtain back on this!!
Lyric is so fun to train because she LOVES to work. That dog is nearly 8 and has the energy of a 2 year old. She's truly a working dog. 3 mile working walk in the morning, works all day with my dad at the office, and then wants to run around and play ball after work. Energy for days lol!
And, that's not to say that dogs don't make amazing leaps of cognition in harness all the time, just that, most of the intelligent disobedience is formally taught and expertly generalized ;)
@@DoggyU Sounds like Lyric has a great job for which she’s the perfect fit! Long life to her, your dad and their partnership. 🐕♥️💪
Wild canids must routinely make “leaps of cognition” to head off danger and/or haul pups to safety, no? Not such a big leap for a trained guide dog, then, methinks! 🧐
My former guide dog did a traffic check, also known as intelligent, disobedience, and literally saved me from getting run over by a pick up truck. These dogs are heroes.
With a teen quickly approaching adulthood & knowing that they will need a service dog to be confidently independent as an adult, your videos are super helpful to our ongoing conversations about service dogs & what tasks will be most helpful.
I'm so glad that the videos can be a catalyst for discussion for the two of you
My dog as a puppy sat down and wouldn't go any further when my friend and I were at a fair. She said it was safe to go but nope! My dog was right, a truck was coming from around the corner driving in the walking area! He's a good boy but this is also the dog that drags me away from allergens. 😅 I found a local service dog trainer though that can come to my house (since I don't drive) after your suggestion when I commented on the last video. Just not sure if I can afford it at this time with high heating bills with winter here. Maybe when it gets warmer. Thanks for another informative video!
Look at heap and other help programs for heat and ac bills, even the providers may have payment and or budget plans.
@@analarson2920 thank you but with my SSD payments that brings it just above the income level. 😅
the work dogs do, and also some other animals, will never cease to amaze me. it's very special that humans and animals can have relationships like this. considering that brain work is very exhausting to dogs it's quite the feat to reliably teach them work behaviors, especially sustained ones like leading blind/impaired people.
It takes a very special dog! The GSD in the video, Lyric, has one of the best work ethics I've ever seen in a guide. She LOVES to work (and she's almost 8!)
I am owner training my mobility and psychiatric assistance dog, he’s a large bullmastiff/American staffy mix, he’s roughly 90lbs.
He has taught himself two tasks for when I have a fall and I’ve just captured and reinforced these behaviours.
Task one:
I put him in a down stay and walk around like I do when practicing our distance and duration, then I fake a fall. When he sees this happen he runs to me like a freight train.
He then checks if I’m conscious and breathing (he literally puts his face in front of my nose to feel my breath), if I play dead he then tries to wake me by gently nudging my face.
If that doesn’t get a response he moves on to rolling me on my side using his head, he always rolls me onto my left side lol 😂
Task two: he has seen me have a real fall and while I was on my hands and knees he puts his head under my chest, I then put my hands on his shoulders to stay balanced but don’t push down on him.
As I was slowly getting up, he slowly slid his head forward to my stomach and kept me balanced while I grabbed the door frame to pull myself up. He did an awesome job of looking after me 👌🏽
It’s incredible how much dogs can work out on their own, he wasn’t taught to do any of this, but was heavily rewarded for his work ❤
I can’t wait until he’s working full time and I can feel safe everywhere we go! 🥰
I love your work and your channel has been so helpful with his training 🫶🏼💞
Sounds like a wonderful pup! Thanks for taking the time to comment! :)
WOW that little guide dog with the white patch 💖💖💖💖 excellent vid as always Laura, your co-star deserves some treats!!
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My boy refused at steps, I'm in a wheelchair.
It took ages to get him comfy with going past a yard with another dog barking behind it, don't stress, I know you'll do it, probably better than we did!
This is very interesting, particularly the ways in which you parallel how there are so many forms of intelligent disobedience across different types of Service Dogs.
I have leg bouncing too and teached my service dog to interrupt by poking my knee and apply DPT.
My service dog becomes very stubborn when I am about to have a dissociative episode and won't come with me unless it is towards an exit (inside a store). She will just stare at me and if I continue dragging her along she will sit down or lie down. I used to think she was just being disobedient until I connected the dots. She is never wrong and after the episode she is always back to being perfectly obedient and follows happily.
Love the concept of superseding cues! Thanks for sharing so many great examples to solidify this concept. Brilliant!
Thanks Jamie! This was a fun one to make as it's so close to my heart
You mentioned dogs picking up on accelerated heart rate and blood pressure. I go Monday to have a heart monitor put on to see why my heart rate inexplicably goes from the 35ish bpm to 160ish throughout the day without good reason. I hope that skill is an easy one to teach so my dog can add that to her repertoire.
This is not a skill that's within my repertoire of behaviors that I personally teach (each service dog trainer has their own specialties, as in all things). Highly recommend you work with a trainer experienced in heart rate alerts before choosing a dog for this task.
I find it amazing and fascinating how guide dogs do this.
I've been doing it for over a decade and I still find it fascinating!
I’ve just started my owner training journey and I love your channel, it’s so helpful
I'm so glad you're finding the channel helpful! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
So excited for this one as I’ve been working in small bits on this. Love seeing the breakdown!! Look forward to any more guide content you may post
Thank you for another terrific clip. Superseding cues are interesting to cue.
This is incredible. So inspired
So glad you enjoyed it!
I absolutely loved this video. You are such a great teacher!
So glad you enjoyed this one! It's one of my favorite topics!
Great info Laura!
Thank you
I don't understand why handler bouncing a knee is something that must be stopped at all costs; is the presumption that knee bouncing is a seizure, rather than just a way to relieve nervous energy?
Hey Chris,
The knee bouncing doesn't need to be "stopped at all costs". However, a disabled handler can want their dog to bring attention to repetitive behaviors for a variety of reasons, especially because many people who exhibit repetitive behaviors don't know they're doing them. A lot of the time they can be a precursors to a medical event (like an anxiety attack) and bringing attention to it can help the handler use some of their other coping strategies or tasks to decrease the severity of a medical event, or prevent it from escalating. In cases like repetitive picking, the picking can seem innocuous, but when it happens all the time, it causes bleeding, pain, scabbing, and scarring. In my case, the repetitive leg shaking can be frequent and disruptive, especially in a classroom environment, concert, play etc., and I don't know I'm doing it, even when my leg shaking is shaking the entire row of seats. So bringing attention to it can help me divert that behavior into a less disruptive behavior, or cue me that I need to take a break. Those are just some of the reasons. Everybody's disabilities different, just like everyone's tasks and what they help with are different.
Do you have any videos on patreon on training guide dogs? I just subscribed but I don't see any 😭
I do have an entire Q&A that focuses around guide dog training. You can find it here: www.patreon.com/posts/january-2023-96691305
You can also find all the videos I offer linked here, which you can access whether or not you're a member so that you can see what Patreon offers. It's updated every few months: tinyurl.com/doggyu-community
That being said, I do not offer many guide dog "how to" videos, as guide dog training is a comprehensive set of progressive skills that build on eachother that is very different from other types of service dog training and I highly recommend that you undertake it under the guidance of a certified Guide Dog Mobility Instructor (GDMI) who understands the entire process and can help you troubleshoot along the way. My current dogs are unsuitable for the work, as one will be turning 15 this year, and the other weighs only 39 lbs and small framed, which is not a suitable weight for guide work.
There's also a book that talks about guide dog training that may be helpful: amzn.to/3SUFti3
I do plan to do some videos around training guide dogs once my new puppy is here and I'm able to work the protocol every day, but that won't be until the puppy is fully developed, so you're looking at 2+ years on that video.
That all being said, if you're no longer interested in supporting the channel, please reach out to me directly on Patreon through the messenger function and I'd be happy to give you a refund for the month.
Best,
Laura
Okay but HOW do you train this?🥰
I talk quite a bit on how to train platform work on my Patreon Deep Dive: www.patreon.com/posts/feb-deep-dive-98838566
I talk about intelligent disobedience for alert and interruption tasks in my Behavior Interruptions and Alerts Course: courses.doggyu.com/p/bia
smart pup. avoid the gator lol
WOW that little guide dog with the white patch 💖💖💖💖 excellent vid as always Laura, your co-star deserves some treats!!