Missing with dissociative fugue: Hannah Upp's mystery disappearance

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  • @pamelamagdanz7132
    @pamelamagdanz7132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    After going through many years of erased memory, I was diagnosed. it's real and scary as hell, it's because of early childhood trauma and subsequent traumas as an adult that trigger it in my case, It's heart wrenching because you have no recollection of huge chunks of your life. This is no joke and no laughing matter. May it never snare you in its grip. It's a by product of PTSD.

    • @ssgearmyveteranforever3025
      @ssgearmyveteranforever3025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm so sorry for you. No one should have to experience what you go through. I'll keep you in my thoughts & prayers.

    • @banditthegermanshepherd6406
      @banditthegermanshepherd6406 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am sending you lots of love and positivity. It sucks you have this horrible illness and I am hoping for you that you can be well. You are right, it’s no laughing matter. Much respect to you for your transparency and your honesty. You are brave and strong...bless you. ❤️

    • @peggyhiggins6923
      @peggyhiggins6923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ditto, it is scary as hell!

    • @Witchygirl22
      @Witchygirl22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      After my 2 children died I lost YEARS of memories. I don't have this disease Hannah has but I have horrible trauma and from that I have extreme memory loss. It's crazy. I have to ask my family to help me remember stuff. It sucks.

    • @pamelamagdanz7132
      @pamelamagdanz7132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Witchygirl22, I am so sorry for your loss, how horrible it is to lose 2 children, I'm so sad for you. Hugs and prayers for you... You have the same symptoms, you might want to check with a therapist to rule it our, besides, therapy really helps, it's so underrated.

  • @rapitup45
    @rapitup45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    If something the size of a plane can disappear it is really easy to disappear a person.

    • @grneyz90
      @grneyz90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf disappeared that was size of a plane?

    • @rapitup45
      @rapitup45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@grneyz90 MH370

    • @Chrisjones-uh1xm
      @Chrisjones-uh1xm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cute girl, so sad she's troubled hope she's alive and well.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grneyz90 a plane lol

    • @panasonic_youth
      @panasonic_youth ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@grneyz90 a plane

  • @deandresinclair
    @deandresinclair 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I hope she's ok and well

  • @susiefairfield7218
    @susiefairfield7218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    They should make a movie about her
    Starring Drew Barrymore

    • @ingridarlington5745
      @ingridarlington5745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ohh, good idea. Maybe they can have Adam Sandler as her love interest. I'd definitely watch it.

    • @genie3531
      @genie3531 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Y’all are fucked up

  • @jasmineekusai1441
    @jasmineekusai1441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Tbh, it’s very rare for me to ever meet or hear of people with the same issue which is why I just choose to quietly live it. Mine is not as severe as hers is described to be thankfully but I do definitely believe that the circumstances assumed about her disappearance aren’t at all far fetched. Mine can last a few seconds to a few days- usually when it lasts a few days- I’m drifting in and out of a present mind- never a full day consistently in that state. I do know who I am but I feel so detached from my life that it’s almost uncomfortable for me to consider the things around me that remind me of who I am- I force myself to do it because I don’t like being in that state- it makes me panic and gets my vision blurry but I do understand why Hannah would avoid things that remind her of her true identity because I have to force myself NOT to do that when I get into that state. To picture the feeling- it’s like awkward, uncomfortable feeling you get going over to someone’s house for the first time and al of their family is there- at first you feel a sense of not belonging- that’s what it’s like for me- like I shouldn’t be where I am, like I am an alien to things around me.

    • @SneedyKetler
      @SneedyKetler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jasmine Ekusai I think you summed it up best, explaining how uncomfortable it was to see stuff that reminded you of who you were

    • @may6762
      @may6762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      this sounds more like derealisation than fugue

    • @biaanibeu4471
      @biaanibeu4471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Family looking at photo albums would point out a picture of a girl and say, oh look, who's that? Mmm mm... cousin so&so? Nou, it's you silly! I have lost one full day and have placed pictures of myself all over the house because I sometimes wake up and wonder who's house I'm in. Many times even that doesn't work because I don't recognize myself in the picture. It's true, it's all true and i know no one with experiences like mine, even though I have been tu numerous psyc hospitals. It's funny when I'm there the other patients ask gazillion questions about "multiple personalities", it feels more like a memory problem to me, i always thought I had dementia. I'd like to chat with you if you would like. My email is onestopshopbox@gmail.com As you so I do my therapy and live life as quietly as i can.

    • @chandracox6814
      @chandracox6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@biaanibeu4471 wow I can relate entirely and I never knew what to call it before now. I have huge portions of my childhood and early adult life just missing or sometimes a vision will come back and I can't tell if it was a memory coming back or a lucid dream so I have a hard time deciphering a past memory as being real. It's scary and yes I've had many, many traumas in life but much better now that I'm an adult and run my own life.

    • @psychvision101
      @psychvision101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should consider getting assessed for epilepsy

  • @vickiejohnson110
    @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I know this young woman, her brother and am close friends with her mother from way before this happened. Hannah is full of life and a wonder to know. Barbara has been stalwart in her faith about findung Hannah though of course there are struggles. I pray and wish the best for all of them

  • @ericasuzannedavis
    @ericasuzannedavis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    During Hurricane Katrina my husbands grandma (who suffered from Dementia) left Florida and got on a greyhound to New Orleans. Nobody knows why. Maybe it was all the news coverage. But she was missing for over a day before the people at Greyhound called us to let us know she fell on the bus. I believe Hurricanes and other major events like that can trigger people with mental illnesses

  • @BabyGirlRaven
    @BabyGirlRaven 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Sometimes people simply want to disappear. I know I have thought about it when things were going rough

    • @bettyboopwolfe9471
      @bettyboopwolfe9471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Me too. Hang in there tho lady. This too shall pass. We sometimes have to outlast our crazy .

    • @squarehammer4619
      @squarehammer4619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I thought I was weird for thinking that.

    • @ladyk2018
      @ladyk2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@squarehammer4619 me too but than I thought about the pain it would cause my family sometimes life makes you have weird thoughts .

    • @ssgearmyveteranforever3025
      @ssgearmyveteranforever3025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I keep telling my family I'm going to change my name & move where no one can find me after my husband passes away because I'm tired of all of their drama & narcissistic behavior.

    • @ladyk2018
      @ladyk2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mike Smith Amen

  • @blizzyyt2281
    @blizzyyt2281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I’m starting to think she didn’t want to be found

  • @eligebrown8998
    @eligebrown8998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sad deal. Feel sorry for the mother. Only hope she didn't have another episode and was swept out to sea or something.

  • @Syclone0044
    @Syclone0044 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    4:30 "Many people in her life believe she was looking for a way to escape her past." (and she subsequently moves to a Caribbean island)
    5:25 "She was a young woman who *definitely* loved her life."
    Huh??

    • @ottomatic7997
      @ottomatic7997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, none of this makes any sense. I smell bullshit

  • @littlepeky
    @littlepeky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    So she didnt remember who she was but she was trying to login to her Apple account?

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well, the #DissociativeFugue 'expert' who tried to explain her behaviour after the event, claims her logging in to her Google email account (at an Apple store) and attending her gym using her name is unconscious second nature behaviour.
      Which is obviously BS. I often have to use 'Forgot Password?' and I certainly don't #sleepwalk to the gym. She was using the gym to shower.
      Dissociative mental disorders are real, but this is clearly a case of deliberately choosing to dissociate. She'd also joined a #Freeganism movement, which further suggests an #ExistentialCrisis.

    • @SuperVendetta9
      @SuperVendetta9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goatlps , ABSOLUTELY. She was there to shower. When you're out there on a limb, you think of creative was to keep clean and stay cool.

    • @t.j.7789
      @t.j.7789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @anders daminI understood it like she is able to store that information in her brain but she doesn't connect it to who she is!

    • @noriii
      @noriii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goatlps and you’re a doctor

    • @angelikacalangi5820
      @angelikacalangi5820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goatlps Bro it literally says that people with dissociative fugue can function normally. She may have lost her autobiographical memory but she knew how to use the gym and log in her account

  • @Presca1
    @Presca1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So sad and rather strange. But isn't it possible to give her a tracking device if she is found again? Or microchip? I know it sounds a bit inhuman, but if it means your daughter can find her family and herself again - it could be an answer that her family goes to her.

  • @TheTaoofEternalWar
    @TheTaoofEternalWar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Found face down in the New York Bay.....alive. Think about that. They just happened to pull her out of the water after she had passed out in the bay but before she drowned. Then she disappears into the sea. She might be a mermaid.

  • @tiqvis6812
    @tiqvis6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To me, it sounds suspicious because she's went missing 3 times and third time still hasn't been found its like she just wanted to leave.

  • @admiralbirdcrap661
    @admiralbirdcrap661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    She followed the white rabbit and left the matrix.

  • @lovingmayberry307
    @lovingmayberry307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fugue states lasting up to 4 years??? Try 30+ in the case of Benjaman Kyle!

  • @sweetBARKH
    @sweetBARKH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Missing for two years. Something happened.

  • @squarehammer4619
    @squarehammer4619 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Breaking bad was right after all. This is horrible. I hope she turns up soon. That has to be so scary

  • @alexisgordon2759
    @alexisgordon2759 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Must be nice to have such a loving mother. My mother threw me to the wolves at 16, and chose to be a neglectful parent along side her narcissistic evil boyfriend

    • @t.j.7789
      @t.j.7789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      EXACTLY!!! I've declared the woman who adopted me dead. Can't call her mother because she never was, maybe I can call her a mother Fkr haha!

  • @elisabeth8708
    @elisabeth8708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have so many more questions. What did she act like at the service station and gym? Was she working out or wandering around? Was she dirty or clean? Where did she get money/food?

  • @guuuu666
    @guuuu666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After hurricane Irma's, many affected people from the antilles were sent to Puerto Rico's refugees as disaster victims. Maybe she's in the big Island or maybe she doesn't want to be found.

  • @unropednope4644
    @unropednope4644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jesus was it a stretch of this girls family and friends minds to make her wear location beacon bracelet after her first two "disappearances "? Alot of resources looking for her could have been saved and she would probably be alive right now. Totally irresponsible.

  • @lmnopopsicle
    @lmnopopsicle ปีที่แล้ว

    so wait, while she was gone for 3 weeks, where did she stay? Where did she eat? Did she work? Where did she get money? No one saw her as a homeless?

  • @sleuthchipperson7415
    @sleuthchipperson7415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dissociative fugue has nothing to do with jason bourne

  • @ritaturner9906
    @ritaturner9906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t understand after her diagnosis and it happened twice in the past and they knew it could happen again, when she moved to the Virgin Islands, why didn’t she let anyone know (close friends/her boss). And especially the time of year it happens. Especially with a hurricane going on. If the director of the Montessori had known, especially the time of year, another hurricane coming, when Hannah seemed different , it would have been a red flag. I hope she’s alive and I hope she’s found.

  • @Janko_Zivanovic_94
    @Janko_Zivanovic_94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whos watching this after Mr Ballen video about Hannah?

  • @kahlodiego5299
    @kahlodiego5299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've lost years.

  • @einc70
    @einc70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Memento: Hannah.

  • @MahmoodAli-xx4ok
    @MahmoodAli-xx4ok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wishing for her safe return. I hope she's safe and well Xx

  • @accountclosed8569
    @accountclosed8569 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Park is not very big compared to the ones on the mainland I think she faked her own death

  • @Sai299
    @Sai299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hannah is missing

  • @brycecheng193
    @brycecheng193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe she just got lost because she was looking for her uncle Tommy who was lost in the woods and then maybe like sometimes you find the elves or maybe sometimes the Bigfoot monster and when you find the Bigfoot monster that is when you will sometimes not be found anymore.

    • @bigman4407
      @bigman4407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ....yeah

    • @vickiejohnson110
      @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the family personally. This is noa fantasy or movie. It is very real. I knew Hannah.

  • @Stonktradomus
    @Stonktradomus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm not saying it's aliens
    But it's aliens

    • @raytang76
      @raytang76 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes....I was thinking somewhat the same thing!!! 😂🤣😂🤣

    • @barbram8001
      @barbram8001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could be.

  • @joelalexander5338
    @joelalexander5338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What her mother is dealing with, to this day, is so sad. I hate to hear of this type of sadness.

  • @jdefeo9841
    @jdefeo9841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She’s long gone- Dead..

  • @uchibauki2515
    @uchibauki2515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so sorry she vanished just like that but this world is huge No body even knows what happened to a beautiful actress Fan Bing Bing !! She disappeared after Chinese government found out about her false income tax report !! I don’t hear anything about her anymore!!

  • @dreababy8020
    @dreababy8020 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How sad. You would hope people that have this would tell at least one person that's around them so at least someone is looking out for them. But then again that would be unfair to have to expose your medical condition. I pray she's okay.

  • @therealilnelly
    @therealilnelly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched the whole thing on A&E

  • @skepticaldopefeind
    @skepticaldopefeind 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Was she depressed and try to kill her self? Maybe she didn't have another episode and was just tired... to many possibilities

  • @Saffron-sugar
    @Saffron-sugar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But, how do they remember pin numbers and not phone numbers? How do they log in to a computer without their email? If she didn't have her wallet, how was she buying coffee? If she used her gym pass to get into her gym, why were the police not made aware?

    • @angelikacalangi5820
      @angelikacalangi5820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They lose their autobiographical memory but otherwise they function well

  • @davybrazell5895
    @davybrazell5895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She's very beautiful.

  • @ednure
    @ednure 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She seems to seek out water. Hopefully she is safe or the mother gets closure soon

  • @josephdurkin8180
    @josephdurkin8180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is some reporter acting like she knew Hannah personally like she was this reporters daughter?

  • @agoroyagoroy517
    @agoroyagoroy517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where s she now

  • @mclovin9578
    @mclovin9578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still missing, hey? Hmmmmm....she went to the beach during a hurricane. 🤔

  • @sonicHometeam
    @sonicHometeam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its weird because wat do they do during the time wat are they thinking how why was she in the water.............

  • @adinahwithkaden
    @adinahwithkaden 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand why so much of this is Elizabeth Vargas and Juju Chang talking

  • @trumpwon8064
    @trumpwon8064 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nothing mysterious here. She obviously wanted to leave this earth

  • @spilledfeed
    @spilledfeed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yea, under the circumstances..... she went swimming with the fishy's

  • @speteydog2260
    @speteydog2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teaching in a NY public school and a verocious hurricane sound like triggers to me. To a nice single girl, (I’m no psychiatrist), but they would do it for me.

  • @MrErichonda30
    @MrErichonda30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like Walter White

  • @djchaiwallah
    @djchaiwallah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Secret agent needed to escape?

  • @Protantagonist
    @Protantagonist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This sounds like a script for the next hollywood film...

  • @hankterreros223
    @hankterreros223 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr Saltz looks like Howard the Stern?

  • @zurgboy07
    @zurgboy07 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember breaking bad lol

  • @Bunty_parade
    @Bunty_parade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they ever find Hannah Upp?

    • @vickiejohnson110
      @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the family personally and as of today, no, they have not.

  • @charliea3363
    @charliea3363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With her condition you would think that someone would be her caretaker

  • @niioli
    @niioli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is not a disease is a spirit tormenting her

    • @Forestcityflygirl
      @Forestcityflygirl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's not. It's a dissociative disorder cause by a life threatening trauma.

  • @PittBoi724
    @PittBoi724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    MrBallen brought me here

  • @randiphoenix1326
    @randiphoenix1326 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man that woman looks old enough to be her grandma

    • @justinedse8435
      @justinedse8435 ปีที่แล้ว

      How old do you expect her Mom to be? Probably 60s or 70s

  • @DonattiCastaneda
    @DonattiCastaneda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Making all the this shit up

    • @vickiejohnson110
      @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this family personally, Hannah and her mother. No, this is not made up. It is very real. This cindition exists. I am an LCSW. Hannah and her mother were very close

  • @jason4275
    @jason4275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *This is the type of person that shouldn't be traveling and have back ups notes and reminders that she's suffering from Schizophrenia if she cant remember who she is, plus what happen to background checks in the U.S. Virgin Island, no parent would want a teacher suffering from Schizophrenia anywhere around their kids.*

    • @melissaharris3890
      @melissaharris3890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      schizophrenics are far less likely to commit a crime than be a victim of one.

    • @vickiejohnson110
      @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know this family personally. Dissociative Fugue has nothing to do with schizophrenia and neither make one dangerous around children. I am an LCSW

  • @Nahulanham
    @Nahulanham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not that I'm suggesting you are, but many people experience temporary fugue states, so to speak, from doing too many psychedelics and smoking marijuana a lot.

  • @kidyalexo350
    @kidyalexo350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    May be she has mental health problem. Hope she is alive

  • @chazchillings3019
    @chazchillings3019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ummm jason borne is also a novel. You know? A book. Pick one up in a while. It might be good for you.

  • @MrErichonda30
    @MrErichonda30 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Basically brain running Microsoft windows 🤯

  • @barbietheemuslimah
    @barbietheemuslimah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gone girl mixed with twilight Zone

  • @jallen1931
    @jallen1931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The drug is called scopolamine, but more commonly referred to as Devil's Breath, is made from the seeds of the borrachero tree . It is mainly produced in Colombia, where it is used to make victims carry out sexual assaults and robberies

    • @Ana-ty8sl
      @Ana-ty8sl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What does that drug and this story of mental illness even compare?

    • @jallen1931
      @jallen1931 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ana-ty8sl maybe you should Look Into It...

    • @zack256300
      @zack256300 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here in East Africa we called it " lion Nail" 😀
      If you chew the seed of the Borrachero tree 🌲 you'll get some phychedilic effect..

    • @barbram8001
      @barbram8001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jallen... Hospital's used to use scopolamine, for labor, and delivery.

    • @lidiapenavalladares4733
      @lidiapenavalladares4733 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jason Blahino maybe educate yourself a bit before calling someone and idiot this is very true and even though we use it in modern medicine some
      People use it for bad to place people in a zombie like state

  • @vigouroso
    @vigouroso 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    LOL. I don’t think she has this ‘dissociative fugue’. I think that 10 years ago she simply got really high and that’s how she ended up in the harbour. The more recent time I think she just was sick and tired of having to be ‘professional’ and perfect all the time and it made her crack and possibly fake her disappearance.

  • @1.4142
    @1.4142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also might have happened to Agatha Christie

  • @rustyshakleford5230
    @rustyshakleford5230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only addict that "says this is normal"? Drugs are a hell of a drug.

  • @Nahulanham
    @Nahulanham 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Real good points on the presence of alternates.

  • @mikeymike7738
    @mikeymike7738 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aliens

  • @hood_TheJoker
    @hood_TheJoker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    maybe she is a secret operative for some clandestine organization like Jason was.. either way it's gotta be disconcerting for her family..

  • @skepticaldopefeind
    @skepticaldopefeind 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely a great cover up for a nice vacation away from your regular life

    • @vickiejohnson110
      @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this family personally and can assure you this is not the case

  • @mesmerizineyez
    @mesmerizineyez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This woman has everyone fooled. She disappears on her on for whatever reason ( I believe attention and it's a game to her to see if she can out smart everyone) she had better stop playing because one of these times could be the real deal and nobody will look because she can't be taken serious. They should have arrested her the second time she did this, put her in jail and made her pay a fine for all the hours police were investigating her fake disappearance

    • @vickiejohnson110
      @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this family personally and can assure you this is no joke. I knew Hannah. She was warm and funny. I am very close with her mother. She remains devastated almost beyond repair. They were very close.

    • @amberb9701
      @amberb9701 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's always that one person who claims people with mental illnesses are faking. You're sick.

  • @Aka47xxx
    @Aka47xxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Npc state

  • @cuntpuncherino
    @cuntpuncherino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why are we supposed to care, again?

    • @cuntpuncherino
      @cuntpuncherino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no.

    • @vickiejohnson110
      @vickiejohnson110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because supposedly that is what human beings do, care about another's misfortune. I know this family personally and their pain is real. This condition could and does happen to anyone