My uncle flew for the JASDF from 1970 to 1998 and he flew the F-4EJ until the F-15 replaced it in his unit. I can remember at age 5 my parents took me to Iruma AFB for an Airshow and my uncle was the flight commander presenting the Airshow. Funny years later i married a soldier and life has been wonderful.
When I was a kid the F-15s and F-4s. Would dogfight right over my grandmother's house. I would watch in amazement. My family used to say a jet aircraft would stop me in my tracks. I just couldn't believe a person was making something flying through the air and do the things they do.
A Anhedral and dihedral sloped wing is the term you're looking for, not canted, and the rear flight surfaces that hang down at a 23° angle, they're called stabilators, not stabilizers. FYI....
Small world, I saw myself climbing into one of those Marine Phantoms at Chu Lai. Nice historical look at the coming of age of 'Old Smoky'. We Marines were unusual in that the Corps was very small, fighter pilot population was extremely small. We all knew each other, had trained together and made a tight knit very efficient combat force. When we had completed a couple hundred attack missions, the brass would send some of us to join the ground Marine forces to guide our squadron buddies who were in their planes attacking ground targets. Mud Marines are very tough guys, I was proud to bring the F-4 to help pave the way to gaining objectives.
Don't you know it. The History Channel has gone the way of MTV, whose programming has little to do with its original intent. I don't get cable/satellite, so I can't speak about the Military channel.
The most feared fighter jet bomber on the planet.it had dominated the skies throughout it's carrier.a true warrior in its history.surprisingly it is still in service with six countries in the world.hope,there could be a revival of this aircraft in the near future.goodluck to the F4 Phantom.
Of all the worlds machines, this, the Phantom II is in my personal top 3. Proportions are just right, big, bad, mighty and intimidating. Just such a nice shape and all.
I couldn't agree more. Just something about the shape of that thing makes it look so beautiful and yet ominous. I fly RC planes -- including jets -- and an F-4 Phantom is definitely on my bucket list.
I worked as an F4-E technician for 15 years.am 50 years old and if I had the opportunity, I would fly an F4-E for another 15 years Thanks go to those who designed, manufactured and carried it to this day.
The Phantom was ahead of it’s time. The early use of this aircraft did not do it justice. The modern upgraded version of the Phantom is an impressive aircraft. The Greeks are still flying the F-4E, now equipped with the same radar and avionics of the F-18.
Fantastic introduction & informative documentary coverage video about F-4 Phantom II 👻 👽........previous designed Phantom appeared its supremacy during the 60th & 70th years of the last century in the Middle East & Vietnam 🇻🇳 conflicts... thanks, (Mike Guardia) channel ..for sharing this thrilled documentary that focuses on its components & components functions that provides superiority of USA 🇺🇸 Aviation techniques capabilities around the world
When i was a kid i made several models of phantoms...nowdays still fixem in Greek airforce...i tell you guys...this thing can stand everything....a great machine..LOVE IT
F-4 Phantom. The Fighter all other modern jet fighters are compared to, Can they do what the F-4 did operationly,.... and the marine corp use the Phanton in the close air support role to name just one of the many it did well.
Remember, Just like the F-104. The Phantoms were forced into roles it was never initially designed for......The Phantoms were bear/Mig killers....
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The CF 105 Arrow development was approximately 12. months Ahead of the F4 imagine the superplane we would have had if these 2 groups had pooled their resources??? To ad insult to injury the cancelation of the CF105 meant that the RCAF wanted the F4 as it's replacement but due to the huge costs of the Arrow program there wasn't any extra money in the budget due to the high unit cost of the phantom so Canada had to settle for F101s ,F104s and manufacturing F5 freedom fighters and starfighters in Montreal instead.....
The truth about Vietnam and the phantoms was the Powers to be forced the phantoms to Dogfight on every encounter because they needed visual Identification, however the phantoms missiles would fail about 90% of the time and pilots was not trained to Dogfight due to the BVR ONLY Doctrine of that time. However when you had WWII pilots who knew how to Dogfight they became ACEs with the phantoms during Vietnam. And Dan Pedersen the founder of Top Gun and the other Top Gun trained pilots actually took the ratio from a 2:1 to 24:1 with the phantoms by the end of Vietnam. However you will never hear about this new ratio that was achieved after the Ault report showing the problem was with poor training combined with poor missiles because it puts the blame not on the phantoms capability but on the Top Brass Fighter Doctrine during Vietnam !
I've read on each mission, in the early days, 50% were lost on each sortie, as they were flying at tree top level; until they developed new tactics. It wasn't until this one pilot's obituary that we learned he had gotten a Silver Star. He was the Wizzo (guy in back) and the front of the aircraft took a missile hit losing the canopy. The pilot was slumped over in the rain. The Wizzo took the aircraft over the sea and was about to punch out when he saw the pilot move. The nearest airfield was a Marine base. He radioed ahead and the airfield was prepared and he landed in the rain. The pilot survived. No idea what his injuries were.
Every squadron had at least three k-ball birds (used for parts) and the hangars were never empty with phase inspections. All models were not designed for ease of maintenance, and you couldn't work on one in a chem warfare suit. The F-15 fixed all that.
Meh, persistent myth. Look at Vietnam kill statistics. Only a couple were with guns, even including the F-8. If pilots had been trained in air to air combat and in the launch parameters of their missiles, it would have been even better. Guns didn't make a big difference.
@@Mishn0 nothing I said was incorrect-our air to air missiles needed improvement (and have been since Nam) and Vietnam taught the Air Force, Navy, etc that every fighter jet should have a cannon backup in case a dog fight ends up happening. What about these facts, that our own military agrees with, is confusing to you? The cannon is the only issue today that might nit be needed, but we still include it on most all modern fighter jets because the US military realizes that pilots are going to run into situations they cannot predict. Even the smaller F-35 version had a cannon pod attachment if needed because… again… we learned from the F-4 in Nam on why cannons are always needed. Again-what do you not understand about this issue? Even our own military had written extensively about this very topic.
@@ttrestle Look at the actual air to air kill statistics. The military may "want" a gun, but the statistics prove that they don't "need" a gun. Even the famous A-10 only scored a fraction of its tank kills with a gun, most of them were with Mavericks. What don't you understand about actual objective statistics?
@@Mishn0 Those statistics don't count the number of times a Phantom could have shot down a MiG, if it had had a gun when its missiles failed, or to continue fighting (rather than retreating) if it was out of missiles. I don't really know how much of a difference it would have made; I'm just saying that statistics don't necessarily tell the whole story.
@@RB-bd5tz Look at the statistics of just the Crusader, then. It always had guns and all but one of their kills was with missiles. A second kill was damaged by the missile and then finished off with the guns. What I'm saying is that the poor kill/loss ratio at the beginning of the war wasn't the missile's fault, it was training and improper tactics. Once that was fixed the kill ratio between Phantoms and MiGs went from barely 1:1 to 5 or 6 to 1, and they still didn't have any guns. You can "if" all you want, but it doesn't change that. The weight and space used by the gun and ammo would be better spent on two more missiles.
The narrator has an interesting accent, a sort of “Mid Atlantic” accent used by actors during the 1940’s and up until the mid 1950’s…ie Grace Kelly and Cary Grant.
Say what you will about the F 4 but it truly was not a good ground support weapon in Vietnam. The F 4 pilots could not see our opposition in the field at all. It was good for blowing up train stations, roades and such, but no real help to us infantry needing air support. We did not have the A 10 Warthog in Nam but it would have been a true game changer. But we did have a good number of other aircraft that supported us and the best was an old world war II propeller driven airplane, it could hang around for almost two hours keeping our enemy away long enough for us to succeed at our little missions, it was called a "SANDY" it was the A1 Sky Raider, and that one saved us many a time. I saw a lot of hype here for the F 4, so I had to comment. I myself saw 5 F 4s shot down.
Do you really know what you are talking about? I flew over 300 missions and I have seen the bad guys up close many times, so don’t tell me we couldn’t see them. We got the grunts out jams many times. The F-4 did a great job as close air support
a pretty good war plane in its era, however, eventually DONE! then, came the best fighter in this world. the F 15 EAGLE , what else is there to say!! history in its glory . god bless the F15 , and America, for OUR FREEDOM!!
5000 of them. Had no idea the numbers were that high. It took two of us to replace the F/C/P ICS Box. Why? The square tube containing the internal boarding ladder was right in front of the box. So, a double 90 degree bend in the thick wiring in a very short distance. We'd use a wooden stick to shift the wire bundle around. You could get the box a little above the console rail. The person in the cockpit would stand on the box and push down from the open canopy. The person on the boarding ladder would lock in two dzues fasteners-on a diagonal-to anchor the box. The person inside could then lock in the last two. On top of the backbone (panel 48) was the upper UHF antenna. Fuels couldn't be bothered to disconnect the antenna and stripped it off the connecting cable. This happened so often (not following tech data) the USAF had a stencil by the antenna telling the person to disconnect the antenna before removing the panel. The UHF radio removed from a phase aircraft had to go back in. The guy that installed it couldn't get it to work. So, I went out there and applied power. Yep, no workie. The radio was on an interface mount that plugged into the aircraft. Pulled the whole thing out and felt back there. @$%@#$%#$%#$% Someone covered the female end of the connector in the metal foil from a candy bar. Removed the foil, plugged it all in and it worked fine.
Are you sure this documentary is from *1987* ? I`ve watched it almost halfway through, and I have yet to see the first F-14. Having been introduced to the Navy in 1961, the F-4 Phantom was an old hat by 1978, let alone 1987 - not to mention that by 1987, the F-4`s replacement aboard the carriers had long been completed.
An amazing piece of aircraft engineering for its time. Too bad it's missiles couldn't hit the side of a barn door from ten feet away. And too bad they didn't give it a gun
USAF E’s had guns, but this only marginally improved the kill ratio in that service. Navy F-4’s didn’t add a gun, but instead responded to rolling thunder by increasing crew training standards and creating TOPGUN. The Navy’s kill ratio climbed while Airforce F4’s lagged behind, solid proof that the lack of a gun was not the problem. In fact, gun kills remained far behind AIM-9 and AIM-7 for the course of the war.
The largest reasons for missile underperformance were outdated and ineffective maintenance procedures, rules of engagement that prevented the Sparrow from operating at anywhere near it’s maximum range, and flight crews’ operator errors.
too bad the audio clip of the engine spooling is reused over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in some scenes
Having been on the near receiving end of an 10 gun run I could barely make out my rsm screaming scatter and managed to jump onto a landy and the rest of the platoon bomb burst away from the wadi but apart from that I can attest to some pilots getting gun happy in airframes totally unsuitable close air support
My uncle flew for the JASDF from 1970 to 1998 and he flew the F-4EJ until the F-15 replaced it in his unit. I can remember at age 5 my parents took me to Iruma AFB for an Airshow and my uncle was the flight commander presenting the Airshow. Funny years later i married a soldier and life has been wonderful.
I was 9 in 1969 and my uncle Jack came home for a holiday from Vietnam where he flew the F4 phantom, I was in awe. 🇺🇲
"... horrendous fuel consumption." HAHA! The F4 is still my all-time favorite plane. Thanks for uploading this!
When I was a kid the F-15s and F-4s. Would dogfight right over my grandmother's house. I would watch in amazement. My family used to say a jet aircraft would stop me in my tracks. I just couldn't believe a person was making something flying through the air and do the things they do.
The canted horizontal stabilizers and matching wing tips look so cool.
A Anhedral and dihedral sloped wing is the term you're looking for, not canted, and the rear flight surfaces that hang down at a 23° angle, they're called stabilators, not stabilizers.
FYI....
@@scottgamble3445it isn’t wrong to call the stabilator that. It’s just the American way
@@scottgamble3445a TH-cam wannabe know everything again, Jesus h Christ they are in every video comments section,good on you Sherlock
@@thurbine2411yeah you wasn't wrong at all
Small world, I saw myself climbing into one of those Marine Phantoms at Chu Lai.
Nice historical look at the coming of age of 'Old Smoky'.
We Marines were unusual in that the Corps was very small, fighter pilot population was extremely small. We all knew each other, had trained together and made a tight knit very efficient combat force.
When we had completed a couple hundred attack missions, the brass would send some of us to join the ground Marine forces to guide our squadron buddies who were in their planes attacking ground targets.
Mud Marines are very tough guys, I was proud to bring the F-4
to help pave the way to gaining objectives.
Have loved the phantom since I was a kid.
Eu tive um da REVELL.
Thanks for posting all these great videos! Too bad history and the military channel is nothing like it was in the 90s
Don't you know it. The History Channel has gone the way of MTV, whose programming has little to do with its original intent. I don't get cable/satellite, so I can't speak about the Military channel.
The most feared fighter jet bomber on the planet.it had dominated the skies throughout it's carrier.a true warrior in its history.surprisingly it is still in service with six countries in the world.hope,there could be a revival of this aircraft in the near future.goodluck to the F4 Phantom.
Of all the worlds machines, this, the Phantom II is in my personal top 3. Proportions are just right, big, bad, mighty and intimidating. Just such a nice shape and all.
I couldn't agree more. Just something about the shape of that thing makes it look so beautiful and yet ominous. I fly RC planes -- including jets -- and an F-4 Phantom is definitely on my bucket list.
Indeed. It just looks like a plane you don't want to be on the wrong end of.
Brilliant, thanks once again Mike.
I worked as an F4-E technician for 15 years.am 50 years old and if I had the opportunity, I would fly an F4-E for another 15 years
Thanks go to those who designed, manufactured and carried it to this day.
This is s pretty good documentary. I didnt know the phantom had so many neat features like that pop-up emergency generator.
Pretty much a common thing on jets. Gotta keep electronics and hydraulics alive somehow when the engines aren’t working
👍💪🔥🇺🇲This Video is phantastic, and love the Phantom from US Navy, US Marines and US Air Force.
Never seen a sparkling clean Phantom on a carrier deck before. Nice.
The Phantom was ahead of it’s time. The early use of this aircraft did not do it justice. The modern upgraded version of the Phantom is an impressive aircraft. The Greeks are still flying the F-4E, now equipped with the same radar and avionics of the F-18.
Way ahead. The Soviet didn't have a fighter comparable to the f4e until the mig23mld (mean while f15 already in Europe) . Soviet tech just shit
Fantastic introduction & informative documentary coverage video about F-4 Phantom II 👻 👽........previous designed Phantom appeared its supremacy during the 60th & 70th years of the last century in the Middle East & Vietnam 🇻🇳 conflicts... thanks, (Mike Guardia) channel ..for sharing this thrilled documentary that focuses on its components & components functions that provides superiority of USA 🇺🇸 Aviation techniques capabilities around the world
Thanks I was a child when this came out
I'm not into loving machines.. but this one, is the one! Love the F-4!
As always Mike, thank you.
When i was a kid i made several models of phantoms...nowdays still fixem in Greek airforce...i tell you guys...this thing can stand everything....a great machine..LOVE IT
They didn't show the ECM Wild Weasel version!
I worked them-avionics CRS
Is that the f4g
@@Graham-h8nyes. F-4G was the dedicated EWAR phantom.
@@NyteStalker89 wild weasel is lethal,pilots have balls of steel
Legend! 👍✈️
I feel so fortunate to have been part of the F-4 Phantom community. I am sure it's look added to its lethality by sher intimidation.
F-4 Phantom. The Fighter all other modern jet fighters are compared to, Can they do what the F-4 did operationly,.... and the marine corp use the Phanton in the close air support role to name just one of the many it did well.
the roar of the F-4 is the sound of freedom. i was at king salmon abs ak.77-79
Awesome! Love the F4!
I like videos like this that don't use a lot of over-the-top dramatics.
Remember, Just like the F-104. The Phantoms were forced into roles it was never initially designed for......The Phantoms were bear/Mig killers....
The CF 105 Arrow development was approximately 12. months Ahead of the F4 imagine the superplane we would have had if these 2 groups had pooled their resources??? To ad insult to injury the cancelation of the CF105 meant that the RCAF wanted the F4 as it's replacement but due to the huge costs of the Arrow program there wasn't any extra money in the budget due to the high unit cost of the phantom so Canada had to settle for F101s ,F104s and manufacturing F5 freedom fighters and starfighters in Montreal instead.....
My favorite aircraft
Awesome 👍 excellent thanks
The truth about Vietnam and the phantoms was the Powers to be forced the phantoms to Dogfight on every encounter because they needed visual Identification, however the phantoms missiles would fail about 90% of the time and pilots was not trained to Dogfight due to the BVR ONLY Doctrine of that time. However when you had WWII pilots who knew how to Dogfight they became ACEs with the phantoms during Vietnam. And Dan Pedersen the founder of Top Gun and the other Top Gun trained pilots actually took the ratio from a 2:1 to 24:1 with the phantoms by the end of Vietnam. However you will never hear about this new ratio that was achieved after the Ault report showing the problem was with poor training combined with poor missiles because it puts the blame not on the phantoms capability but on the Top Brass Fighter Doctrine during Vietnam !
I've read on each mission, in the early days, 50% were lost on each sortie, as they were flying at tree top level; until they developed new tactics.
It wasn't until this one pilot's obituary that we learned he had gotten a Silver Star.
He was the Wizzo (guy in back) and the front of the aircraft took a missile hit losing the canopy. The pilot was slumped over in the rain. The Wizzo took the aircraft over the sea and was about to punch out when he saw the pilot move.
The nearest airfield was a Marine base. He radioed ahead and the airfield was prepared and he landed in the rain. The pilot survived. No idea what his injuries were.
Amazing plane !!
I saw the F4 and T38 thunderbird shows they were pretty cool to watch
Every squadron had at least three k-ball birds (used for parts) and the hangars were never empty with phase inspections. All models were not designed for ease of maintenance, and you couldn't work on one in a chem warfare suit. The F-15 fixed all that.
Why was the smaller diameter than the older radars?
45:45 that’s from an RAF training film on safety in 1976.
2:09 i laughed so hard... "fuel economy" and "f-4". (i get it... it was the 1950s.
cool doco btw
46:19 RAF 20mm gun pod
F4 - Getting the job done. I was there.
If it had a cannon from the beginning and better air to air missiles from the start then it would’ve been even better.
Meh, persistent myth. Look at Vietnam kill statistics. Only a couple were with guns, even including the F-8. If pilots had been trained in air to air combat and in the launch parameters of their missiles, it would have been even better. Guns didn't make a big difference.
@@Mishn0 nothing I said was incorrect-our air to air missiles needed improvement (and have been since Nam) and Vietnam taught the Air Force, Navy, etc that every fighter jet should have a cannon backup in case a dog fight ends up happening. What about these facts, that our own military agrees with, is confusing to you? The cannon is the only issue today that might nit be needed, but we still include it on most all modern fighter jets because the US military realizes that pilots are going to run into situations they cannot predict. Even the smaller F-35 version had a cannon pod attachment if needed because… again… we learned from the F-4 in Nam on why cannons are always needed. Again-what do you not understand about this issue? Even our own military had written extensively about this very topic.
@@ttrestle Look at the actual air to air kill statistics. The military may "want" a gun, but the statistics prove that they don't "need" a gun. Even the famous A-10 only scored a fraction of its tank kills with a gun, most of them were with Mavericks. What don't you understand about actual objective statistics?
@@Mishn0 Those statistics don't count the number of times a Phantom could have shot down a MiG, if it had had a gun when its missiles failed, or to continue fighting (rather than retreating) if it was out of missiles. I don't really know how much of a difference it would have made; I'm just saying that statistics don't necessarily tell the whole story.
@@RB-bd5tz Look at the statistics of just the Crusader, then. It always had guns and all but one of their kills was with missiles. A second kill was damaged by the missile and then finished off with the guns.
What I'm saying is that the poor kill/loss ratio at the beginning of the war wasn't the missile's fault, it was training and improper tactics.
Once that was fixed the kill ratio between Phantoms and MiGs went from barely 1:1 to 5 or 6 to 1, and they still didn't have any guns. You can "if" all you want, but it doesn't change that.
The weight and space used by the gun and ammo would be better spent on two more missiles.
Man that was one complicated jet.
The narrator has an interesting accent, a sort of “Mid Atlantic” accent used by actors during the 1940’s and up until the mid 1950’s…ie Grace Kelly and Cary Grant.
Phantastic phlying machine.
Say what you will about the F 4 but it truly was not a good ground support weapon in Vietnam. The F 4 pilots could not see our opposition in the field at all. It was good for blowing up train stations, roades and such, but no real help to us infantry needing air support. We did not have the A 10 Warthog in Nam but it would have been a true game changer. But we did have a good number of other aircraft that supported us and the best was an old world war II propeller driven airplane, it could hang around for almost two hours keeping our enemy away long enough for us to succeed at our little missions, it was called a "SANDY" it was the A1 Sky Raider, and that one saved us many a time. I saw a lot of hype here for the F 4, so I had to comment. I myself saw 5 F 4s shot down.
You personally witnessed 5 F4’s being shot down?
i bet you're fun at parties and your wife left you to work on herself, too, huh
@@the_artisan_racist Yes, and we never got any respect in 1972 either. You are well understood.
Do you really know what you are talking about? I flew over 300 missions and I have seen the bad guys up close many times, so don’t tell me we couldn’t see them. We got the grunts out jams many times. The F-4 did a great job as close air support
@@rayeastman6601 "bad guys" haha
Vf 114 flew phantoms until Jan. 1,1976.
Great 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I wish they carried those GAU pods at my local gun store.
a pretty good war plane in its era, however, eventually DONE! then, came the best fighter in this world. the F 15 EAGLE , what else is there to say!! history in its glory . god bless the F15 , and America, for OUR FREEDOM!!
5000 of them. Had no idea the numbers were that high.
It took two of us to replace the F/C/P ICS Box. Why? The square tube containing the internal boarding ladder was right in front of the box. So, a double 90 degree bend in the thick wiring in a very short distance. We'd use a wooden stick to shift the wire bundle around.
You could get the box a little above the console rail. The person in the cockpit would stand on the box and push down from the open canopy. The person on the boarding ladder would lock in two dzues fasteners-on a diagonal-to anchor the box. The person inside could then lock in the last two.
On top of the backbone (panel 48) was the upper UHF antenna. Fuels couldn't be bothered to disconnect the antenna and stripped it off the connecting cable. This happened so often (not following tech data) the USAF had a stencil by the antenna telling the person to disconnect the antenna before removing the panel.
The UHF radio removed from a phase aircraft had to go back in. The guy that installed it couldn't get it to work. So, I went out there and applied power. Yep, no workie. The radio was on an interface mount that plugged into the aircraft.
Pulled the whole thing out and felt back there. @$%@#$%#$%#$% Someone covered the female end of the connector in the metal foil from a candy bar. Removed the foil, plugged it all in and it worked fine.
It's interesting that the carrier deckhands were all wearing blue jeans
Are you sure this documentary is from *1987* ? I`ve watched it almost halfway through, and I have yet to see the first F-14. Having been introduced to the Navy in 1961, the F-4 Phantom was an old hat by 1978, let alone 1987 - not to mention that by 1987, the F-4`s replacement aboard the carriers had long been completed.
An amazing piece of aircraft engineering for its time. Too bad it's missiles couldn't hit the side of a barn door from ten feet away. And too bad they didn't give it a gun
USAF E’s had guns, but this only marginally improved the kill ratio in that service.
Navy F-4’s didn’t add a gun, but instead responded to rolling thunder by increasing crew training standards and creating TOPGUN.
The Navy’s kill ratio climbed while Airforce F4’s lagged behind, solid proof that the lack of a gun was not the problem. In fact, gun kills remained far behind AIM-9 and AIM-7 for the course of the war.
The largest reasons for missile underperformance were outdated and ineffective maintenance procedures, rules of engagement that prevented the Sparrow from operating at anywhere near it’s maximum range, and flight crews’ operator errors.
👍
ما ایرانی ها از فانتوم خیلی خاطره داریم
effin awesome
I still don't know why they took the 50 cals off this aircraft I guess I'm just a fool for thinking that idk
F4 phantoms at Viet Nam war?
Rocket powered truck.
Incredible MD did a complete overhaul to create the F15.
Original Discovery Wings voiceover has been replaced with iriritating and fake sounding AI text to speech generative voice. I hate it. BAN IT!
I was with 35
Instead of using a hand crank, that gun should have been loaded with a battery powered drill.
Look like an F4e
too bad the audio clip of the engine spooling is reused over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in some scenes
In before " flying brick " bs comments.
Is this AI commentary or a Brit trying to speak American English ? Just doesn’t sound right.
St Louie, Mac not Mach, madden flight not Maiden flight….
Having been on the near receiving end of an 10 gun run I could barely make out my rsm screaming scatter and managed to jump onto a landy and the rest of the platoon bomb burst away from the wadi but apart from that I can attest to some pilots getting gun happy in airframes totally unsuitable close air support
Communism 👎
My dad flew the F-4 in Nam and after at China Lake ca
Over 556 F4 destroy in Vietnam !🤓😂🇻🇳👏👏👏