Comanche Nation: The Story of Quanah and Cynthia Ann Parker - Finding Cynthia Ann Parker
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2012
- Meg Hacker, Director of Archives at the National Archives of Fort Worth traces the history and steps to find the real story behind this legendary woman--Cynthia Ann Parker. Ms. Hacker also discusses tips and tricks into discovering and identifying other historical legends (a.k.a. your family!) at the National Archives at Fort Worth.
Meg Hacker has been with the National Archives at Fort Worth since 1985. She received her B.A. in American History from Austin College and her M.A. in American History from Texas Christian University. She is a frequent presenter of historical information and the author of the book, "Cynthia Ann Parker: The Life and the Legend."
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Thank you for making this available. Such a fascinating history.
Although interesting & highly informed this talk is highly sanitized history. The massacre was far worse and James Parker's choices were to blame. I would read "Empire of the Summer Moon..." by S.C. Gwynn. This author is a realist hard and truthful.
Thanks, I just ordered that book. Looking forward to reading it.
Read the book: Someone Found, written by Arthur Japin....
Just finished it. Great book.
Great read here is little different take on the Pease River raid
th-cam.com/video/0NaI2chrN4A/w-d-xo.html
That book is highly overrated.
Accurate or not, I'm glad to review this. All descendants don't have the same look. I'm fairly young, so Chief Quanah Parker was my great great great grandfather. His wife Tanarsy, my ggg grandmother, was the mother of my great great grandfather Sherady. My middle name Sheree was inspired by him. I promised my late grandfather to re-connect with this part of my heritage, and this makes my spirit long to do just that.
+Jacqueline Andrews DUDE
+Jacqueline Andrews SAME
Not kidding. I've been doing a ton of digging into this lately, I'm his great great great great grandson
+John Parker ...that's great! That would indicate we are related. Have you been to the territory where our ancestors lived?
Nope, I live in upstate NY. Also, I believe any bloodline ended with my father who was adopted. I didn't know anything about any of this until fairly recently, but it's all really fascinating.
I have some original papers I found in my mom and Grandmas box. I am Related to Cynthia and Quannah
tammy rogers lady below from 2 yrs ago is looking for someone related
I am a direct descendant of Quanah Parker, my grandmother was Lucille Parker born in Garvin, Oklahoma.
My grandmother married Rextor B Eudy,they had 4 daughters, one was my mother.
www.geni.com/people/Quanah-Parker-Comanche-Chief/6000000007952077043
Please join us Quanah Parker's and sisters at geni.com we are trying to instigate a gathering in order to preserve Quantas house which is currently falling down around itself in Cache Oklahoma
@@raystephens8857 www.geni.com/people/Quanah-Parker-Comanche-Chief/6000000007952077043
Please join us at geni.com!
I am using the geni.com platform and others to try to instigate support for the restoration and preservation of Quanah Parker's house which is currently falling into ruin in Cache Oklahoma
Please contact us at the Quannah parker star house in Cache Oklahoma!...
my sister in law is directly related to her this is her great great grandma and quanah was her grandpa as well
At some point during the Peace River raid it was Federal Troops that took custody of Parker and it was Camp Cooper Texas where she was taken to. Her Uncle Isaac Parker went to the camp to see if this woman was her and after some time determined it was her. The camp interpreter, Horace Jones, (later interpreter at Ft Sill) claim of talking to Peta Nacoma later, was apparently; something he told to Mariam Brown, daughter of Texas politician John Henry Brown and insofar as I'm aware that hearsay account is not on records pertaining to Camp Cooper.
Paul Carlson of Texas Tech U has also done some pretty comprehensive research on the Peace River Raid with emphasis on Sul Ross's seemingly ever changing accounts which made no mention of Peta Nacoma in his original post battle report. That report was publicized and disputed for accuracy on several points by another Texas Ranger along on the mission, but not on the issue of who Ross might've killed.
Carlson's research found no claim involving Peta Nakoma by Ross until Ross was running for the Texas State in 1880.. So it would be interesting if your research found any such mention of Nakoma by Ross before then. Here is Professor Carlson's TH-cam summation of his research on the matter. . . . th-cam.com/video/0NaI2chrN4A/w-d-xo.html
Interesting new fact on Prairie Flower. I always thought that she had died before her mother. Could it really be that she actually lived on?
Quahna was born at Cedar Lake in Seminole county Texas
Where might one find a list if names of the Rangers involved at the Pease River massacre? I'm looking for C.P. Coble
The Comanches and the White Men of the time were savages, they just dressed differently. Cynthia Ann Parker's mother was murdered in front of her, other women were raped, men killled, then Cynthia was kidnapped and raised with the Comanche without having a choice in the matter. The bottom line is that the Comanche ripped a family apart in this case. So glad I am not related in any way, because I truly would not know how to feel about any of this. #realtalk
Carful with the fact toss, here. Cynthia's mother wasn't killed; she lived on to 1852. After the death of Silas, she married two other men, one "Usry", and a W. W. Roberts, so, no, Cythia didn't see her murdered. She may have seen the death of her grandfather, father and uncle, but I would assume she was pretty much hustled away from that in a frantic effort to escape.
Life in Texas in the early days was this way. Another branch of my ancestors, the Burlesons, fought Indians from Pennsylvania to Alabama to Texas over 4 generations, lost several, and kept on going. It was a different world, and the people in it learned to cope and keep going. Not always an admirable bunch, more gritty, instinctually ruthless survivors. Don't judge them by your standards.
Granny Parker was pinned to the ground with a spear...then raped...but still survived.
There needs to be an actual movie made about this
Very little of what is said about Quanah is factual truth.Being a direct descendant of Quanah and grandson of Lucille Parker, born in Garvin, Oklahoma, we were taught actual truth about his life
The movie, if honest, would be horribly gruesome and downcast. Only two came out with "good" endings - Qannah Parker and Cynthia's brother Richard. Just about everyone else touched suffered for it.
They are not “Custer’s Last Stand”
Now let the family tell the true story.
Too bad Meg didn't stay behind the recording equipment.
They have multiple languages
or like 2 seperate, one about Cyntia & one about Quanah
Cynthia Ann Parker was taken captive at age 9,when she became marring age Chef Peta Nacona took her as his wife,they had 2 sons and a daughter.Quanah was the youngest son.
Your presentation would have been stronger had you not brought your own eye-color into the equation ... and, I'm wondering: what is your ancestral connection to the space that we now call, 'Texas,' during the period of which you researched (mainly online, seemingly) and wrote?
Eye color was important back then to determine whether a young child was white or not: a young child (not babies or teens) with blue eyes would have been kidnapped and raised/traded by the kidnappers, as well as other children with brown eyes....blue eyes, obviously, signifies "white;" brown eyes could signify Mexican, Comanche, Spanish, Apache, white, etc.
In particular, Elder John Parker, the "patriarch" of the family, was a hell-fire and brimstone primitive baptist preacher and missionary. He and his brothers fought in the Revolutionary War out of Culpeper County, Virginia, and following John's vision, they formed a wagin train to proceed to missionary the hell out of these United States. They trekked to Georgia, settling for a few years, and then moved on to Ohio and Indiana. In Indiana they stopped long enough to marry several of the brothers, in particular into the Doty/Duty family. This family is fairly well known because their "patriarch" in the New World was Edward Cameron Doty, a signer of the Mayflower Compact.
Moving on to Crawford County, Illinois they again stopped. One or perhaps more of the brothers decided to stay there (perhaps "High Johnnie" was beginning to get on some nerves. It was only recently established by DNA evidence that this happened. Johnny and his family and some 30 others formed the Pilgrim Primitive Baptist Church and "took it on the road", south to Louisiana, and then west into Texas. The Mexicans wanted them in Texas to act as a buffer against the Indians, enough so that they relaxed the "Catholic only" rule they'd formerly used. xWhen they arrived in Texas, the family studiously avoided the Texas Rebellion.
So, Silas and generally speaking the whole family probably saw the world in Primitive Baptist terms: black and white, them vs us. This stiff necked right/wrong mentality is raised later by brother James, who made political enemies all over Texas in his fanatical attempts to recover his daughter Rachel Plummer and his nephews/nieces kidnapped, to the point he was driven from his home by Texans wanting to kill him, and exposing his recovered pregnant daughter to weather that likely caused her death shortly afterrward. Sam Houston later noted him as a particularly difficult person to work with - he refused Houston's order (as Texas Republic president) to release his grandson James Pratt, another kidnapee, back to his father.
Oh, come on. This Rachel Plummer Memoir is online at archive.org/details/rachelplummernar00park; it's title is "Rachel Plummer narrative; a stirring narrative of adventure, hardship and privation in the early days of Texas, depicting struggles with the Indians and other adventures". It is the edited-by-James version, but I believe the original is an appendix. It is further edited by three granddaughters of James W., but I don't think they made any additions. There is a page in wikipedia on Rachel Plummer.
Read the book: Someone Found, written by Arthur Japin....
@@puncheex2 Read the book: Someone Found, written by Arthur Japin....
@@honestyforever1964 I was unaware of that book, so I immediately went and looked it up. It is "De overgrave (Surrender)" by Arthur Japin; "Someone Found" is a column header in Amazon's writeup. It reads: "Miraculously, Granny Parker survives ‘that one day’ and from then onwards, she devotes her life to finding her lost family, filled with hatred and bent on revenge."
High Johnny Parker married three times: to Mary Rogers, Sarah F. White and Sarah Pinson. The Granny in the story is Sally Pinson (Sally is a common 19th century diminutive of Sarah), born in South Carolina in 1758, widow of Richard Duty, with whom she had 14 children. The attack on May 19, 1836, found Sarah Parker mishandled just as described in the account above (on Amazon's web page for the book). In addition, her breasts were cut off; the Comanche's were nothing if not savage to their enemies. She was found that evening as other of the Parkers and their friends who had been working fields several miles from the compound cautiously returned to their home. She was carried to Houston while her husband and two of her step-sons were buried, and according to my records, died there on July 28th of the same year. This date is attested to in her Find a Grave memorial (www.findagrave.com/memorial/71989843). The person who "devotes her life to finding her lost family, filled with hatred and bent on revenge." is actually one of High Johnny's sons, the Rev. James William Parker, whose daughter and grandson were also kidnapees. And yes, the story does not turn out well but for Qannah Parker, Cynthia's eldest son, and one of the kidnapees, Cynthia Ann's brother, Richard, who found peace.
They Natives “not Indians” they are native Comanche or Cherokee
"...nothing is ever mentioned about her husband Luther, and she dies at her father's home." Actually, the known pile of facts about this episode is extensive. James, apparently imbued with his father's fire and brimstone, thrashing about trying to find his family, trashes Luther because he isn't helping. He trashes a lot of other people; in some cases, he is accused of committing murders over his problem. He buys back Rachel, who writes her story, is re-united with Luther who immediately gets her pregnant again, and in her 8th month the Texans who suffered in James' searches, threaten to burn his home down around him. He and the Plummers take to horses and live on the prairie in December for at least a couple of weeks seeking refuge. They eventually wind up in Houston, Rachel has a very difficult childbirth which she outlives by only two months, and her newborn dies 2 days later. This is all hashed out in Texas histories, and James isn't through searching yet, either. The on-going story involves Sam Houston; it's in his papers. There is a lot more history than this lady either knows or wants to tell.
Oh, yes, Lucy Duty, Cynthia's mother, marries afterwards twice, and dies in 1858. In the background of all this, Cynthia's other uncle Isaac is also beating bushes, but more calmly than James is. He takes in Cynthia and later her brother Richard when he's found, but Richard escapes and returns to the Comanches - another fascinating story. The county of Parker in Texas is actually named for Isaac.
who was sallie parker born 1891?
@@MultiDjc123 I would presume she could be one of Quanah Parker's daughters. He married 8 times. One child, Sarah Elizabeth Parker, was born in 1861 to Quanah and To-Nar_Cy; there were more; he had some 35 children. Then again, poor dead Silas (Cynthia's father) had seven brothers; there are a lot of other Parkers in Texas as well. A quick peek into ancestry do=t com reveals at least six Sarah Parkers within a couple of years of 1891, so you'll need to know more to narrow it down.
They are “not Indians” they are natives
Nope. Amerinds is the correct term. Paleo man was the original native
ten minutes of idle uninteresting talk and still nothing about the Comanche Nation
Tsk clear Ur ears out then