Todd, this just shows your integrity and the integrity of the people you surround yourself with. It is also just another reason I enjoyed the times I got to fish with you and Russell. You both do your own thing and for the most part stay away from the crowds. As far as BASS goes if they keep making rules like this they need to rethink their business model. I don't think making rules that most disagree with and putting it out there to test the waters. Then walk it back when the backlash is so bad. I have to think this is a big black eye for BASS and I don't know what they can do to make it any better for themselves.
Over the years as I have participated in tournaments, and I have made friends with other tournament fishermen. With those friendships, I have learned about various ways to perform well in tournaments in the grey area.
Great video again and I agree. What saddens me the most right now is that we literally never get to talk about anything good or positive in fishing or life anymore. No matter how good a derby was or how many big fish are caught or a great new bait etc. negativity, drama, scandals always overshadows it now. Remember when we used to love fishing and it was fun to do, see, watch and learn on a positive light?! Make fishing great again please somebody!🙏🤷♂️😁
Great video Todd. This video needs to be watched by many tournament anglers. The guys fishing smaller scale tournaments and definitely the Elite’s and BPT guys. Any time money and fame are on the line there’s always going to be someone willing to cheat or whatever to win. The guy with integrity will always have to work harder for the win. But it just makes it that much better.
Back when I was fishing BASS in the 90’s it was what a lot of people did. Not all mind you (not all of us could afford to rent helicopters and hire every guide in the local area) but it was common. Those that had money to spend, spent it. It was hard to compete but it was possible. 👍🏻
Great video Todd,it really opens people eyes to what really goes on,you nailed it with this one,just enforce the rules given,it's sad that there's that many dishonest people out there,makes no sense why you need info of your a pro,the drive to succeed makes people do stupid stuff I reckon
At the high school tournament level, parents can “hire” an excellent boat captain to tutor and coddle their children. It’s amazing how many productive baits are randomly laying around in the boat captain’s boat. The high school teammates never know where to start. Well the captain just pulls into a known productive creek.
Grew up wanting to be a professional fisherman! Now I'm glad I never pursued that dream! It's not just fishing that's being effected. People used to have morals, high standards, were raised in church, had manners and was taught respect. Seems like everything is backwards now, what used to be wrong is now considered right, and what was right is now considered wrong! I'm with you, put a stop to it and set those people out, don't condone people that are dishonest and break the rules! Makes the federation look bad!!!!
Josh Jones and Jason Conn have openly said they have sold waypoints to elites for next season already. I can’t wait to watch those two argue over who gave the better info and had a higher finisher pay them.
@@robertlane370 idk where you saw that but on more than one post they have said they sold waypoints. Jones said he made $2k shortly after posting he had waypoints for sale. Haven’t seen anything about them saying they were joking.
I remember saying from my parents and I'm an OG fisherman don't lie and live your life right and cream will rise to the top and the people who are honest will know that
Part of it is probably things being blatant or sneaky. Part of it is also probably the anglers... BASS pre split had a lot of big name anglers but now the anglers are younger, not saying there aren't old timers there. There are but they probably stayed out of this stuff because they see the toxic negativity it brings to the sport. Nowadays people just shoot a text instead of taking joe Bob out to lunch and "talk fishing". I follow tournament fishing but don't do it myself so I'm just guessing. I'm pretty weird about just telling someone I caught a fish somewhere 😂 Good content though Todd!
So I guess now we have to look for a Tournament Trail that has no ffs and no information rule pretty soon it's just going to be people standing on the bank😂 way to go Todd for putting it out there
Todd, how do the apps with a guide or put together by others spots fit into the information rule? I had heard guys bought various apps for spots to practice if nothing else.
I'm not sure thats an interesting question, if its public no big deal I guess, but if you pay for it kinda grey. Would it be like buying a map with boat lanes? Thats info and I'm sure its ok, but I guarantee you can ask privately where to run so you dont hit anything. Good question
There is no such thing as a professional fisherman. That is a lie you got sold when we were younger. Professional sportsmen don’t pay entry fees to the competitions. When was the last time tennis, baseball, football, golf players, required to pay an entry fee at the highest level of their sport? They haven’t. They get paid predetermined amounts, regardless of their final results. They might get more to win in some cases, but they get paid to lose, without paying to play. That is what a professional is. At best, there are semi amateur half assed sponsored fishermen. That’s it. The quicker that gets accepted, the quicker it can be changed.
In fishing there are no so called professionals just professional sales people. When you pay 40k in entry fees plus all the gear. Hoping to make money at the end of year is crazy thinking. Only a few fisherman actually make money just fishing. To me it's clearly evident when I watch live there is info being past around.
Easy to address cheating. Disqualify them from the current event and the following event. Make the anglers feel the pain or offer a bounty to a whistle-blower who reports anglers seeking info
So how due you feel about Fish tips the website. Pros and other people are selling waypoints and other info. Even your friend Ish is on there. The pros in my opinion are promoting this and causing their own problems. Not saying all, but most.
I know they've approached me a bunch and I still have a hard time getting behind it. I'm pretty torn about it. However, I really dont think it would help those guys that much.
What about pros that room together on the road? I've watched many videos of them talking to each other about where and what they fished and what they caught in practice maybe named Matt, scott and scott just to name a few.
It's not against the rules to get info from someone you're competing against. The problem i have with that is, lets say some hypothetical angler named mark isnt doing so well, but his roomate jake is. Mark doesn't have anything to lose if he's in 60th so he could give jake some info that helps him take someone elses money.
I don't mind guys sharing info that are in the tournament except for one instance and I'll do a video one it. However, when you share info most times it hurts the person sharing.
My opinion on a professional tournament trail , each tournament shouldn't be scheduled send them a address and give them 2 days to get there and 1 to practice and let the best man win
Todd, your ole school bud, just like me, those days are gone unfortunately. These kids today want easy, it’s all about the $$$$ mommy and daddy got that back. As far as B.A.S.S. Is concerned, if I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times, NO leadership, they’ve gone woke
The 2 young fellas that like that gray area, need to be banned for 3 years and made to qualify again through the opens. Make an example or lose your credibility.
@@HawgWyldFishing no it’s not. A lesson needs to be taught. If the accusations are proven, they need to removed and made to requalify. Nothing retarded about it. All it does is tell young fisherman that morals and ethics are not needed to be a pro fisherman.
@@timarmstrong521 big phrase you just said, IF, they have not been proven. Fortunately as long as the flag flies in the US you are innocent until proven guilty. Being in the grey, is not the same as stuffing weights in fish and being caught. Maybe BASS needs to look in the mirror and start clarifying their rules?
BASS has taken a big hit for their handling of many of the things that have happened. BASS and MLF have BOTH made some bad calls to protect an anglers career???? What about your own reputation as a league??? I have always been a fan of the sport and watched all I could of all the leagues coverage over the years…. B.A.S.S. and MLF are poorly run organizations now. I’m going to start following NPFL more closely.
B.A.S.S. and MLF Have CATERED TO THE MCKINNEYS, WALTERS, AND TOMPKINS So they would Save their CAREERS, MCKINNEYS MOMMY WILL BE RUNNING B.A.S.S. BEFORE TOO LONG, SHE ALREADY IS DICTATING WHAT GOES ON THERE NOW!!!!
The fact that Dave Mercer was an Intral part at getting the decision reversed is absurd… When your MC has to get involved to get a rule changed, that’s pretty pathetic
If you’re fishing the EQs you want to be an Elite angler you should not be anble to get info if you break the rule you should be banned from the Elites for ever You need info your not a pro
The information rule is dumb as hell to me. You can give someone GPS coordinates. That’s not gonna make the right fish admit defeat to them and jump in their boat, or keep them alive when they get there.
B.a.s.s. & BPT is not a top-level sport. First what is b.a.s.s. & BPT gross revenue? Elites and bpt only fish 9 events, when real top level sports play 16-162 games a year. Do you actually know how one qualify for Wimbledon, u.s. open, Australia open, French open? It goes off your world ranking, you have play out country, travel U.S. pay to entree smaller tournaments to build your ranking. How about trying qualifying for the masters, PGA championship, Ryder cup, u.s. open cup? Nfl, nba, mlb they make their money off selling out arenas, stadiums, jerseys, souvenirs, ect. Then the TV deal, each nfl team makes around 250 million on that. B.a.s.s. and bpt is more like lower end of professional racing. Only handful of events where you can make money if you win. Or you better have really deep pockets or ride and sponsorship to cover everything.
Maybe they should reward creditable tips turned into BASS and punish false claims. Do majority of pros think like you or do majority want info/waypoints/key baits?
Look I respect most folks that love to fish. But there seems like some of the older elites who love to hunt don't want to work as hard as the younger guys at trying to win. Would rather hunt than put that extra time in to be the best at their sport. Those young guy are still going to more than likely whip the deer hunting crowd because they are hungrier. I think the hunters are highly upset their apple cart is a much tougher grind than they like. Get hungry/better and quit whining. They are still going to win. They have the rules like they like them. So what will the excuse/whine be next year.
I strongly disagree with this. There is so much going on here and just cause you put more time in today doesnt mean you get rewarded for tomorrow. If you take certain things away from these anglers certain things are gonna follow. I can't wait for next year cause a lot of people are gonna see the light on the other tours.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 You are a smart guy. Hard worker based on your videos. Efficiency is the name of this game. I am not great at it in my 60's. That being said if someone fishes 12 months out of the year continues to constantly learn both technique and habits of their prey. They will most likely do a lot better than those that are not full time pursuing the same goals. MLF's they will still get to practice with FFS . Elites are full time FFS. It seems the big key to me is learning how to be most efficient with it in practice. I am learning every time I go out how to catch more fish with it in shallow water. Usually not by looking at them but knowing they live there and why they live there. Those guys that rely on past knowledge can't compete with actual current knowledge.
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You always get right down to it! Thanks. I always appreciate your take.
You are a beacon of truth for the industry my fishing friend. Pure gold indeed.
Spot on Todd!!!
Todd, this just shows your integrity and the integrity of the people you surround yourself with. It is also just another reason I enjoyed the times I got to fish with you and Russell. You both do your own thing and for the most part stay away from the crowds. As far as BASS goes if they keep making rules like this they need to rethink their business model. I don't think making rules that most disagree with and putting it out there to test the waters. Then walk it back when the backlash is so bad. I have to think this is a big black eye for BASS and I don't know what they can do to make it any better for themselves.
Over the years as I have participated in tournaments, and I have made friends with other tournament fishermen. With those friendships, I have learned about various ways to perform well in tournaments in the grey area.
Great video again and I agree. What saddens me the most right now is that we literally never get to talk about anything good or positive in fishing or life anymore. No matter how good a derby was or how many big fish are caught or a great new bait etc. negativity, drama, scandals always overshadows it now. Remember when we used to love fishing and it was fun to do, see, watch and learn on a positive light?! Make fishing great again please somebody!🙏🤷♂️😁
Great video Todd. This video needs to be watched by many tournament anglers. The guys fishing smaller scale tournaments and definitely the Elite’s and BPT guys. Any time money and fame are on the line there’s always going to be someone willing to cheat or whatever to win. The guy with integrity will always have to work harder for the win. But it just makes it that much better.
Back when I was fishing BASS in the 90’s it was what a lot of people did. Not all mind you (not all of us could afford to rent helicopters and hire every guide in the local area) but it was common. Those that had money to spend, spent it.
It was hard to compete but it was possible. 👍🏻
Remember Back when Roland Martin got info.. fish were way up the river ..he had a boat made to use with a water jet propulsion ..
Great video Todd,it really opens people eyes to what really goes on,you nailed it with this one,just enforce the rules given,it's sad that there's that many dishonest people out there,makes no sense why you need info of your a pro,the drive to succeed makes people do stupid stuff I reckon
Great Video. Info a lot of times leads you in the wrong direction.
At the high school tournament level, parents can “hire” an excellent boat captain to tutor and coddle their children. It’s amazing how many productive baits are randomly laying around in the boat captain’s boat. The high school teammates never know where to start. Well the captain just pulls into a known productive creek.
Grew up wanting to be a professional fisherman! Now I'm glad I never pursued that dream! It's not just fishing that's being effected. People used to have morals, high standards, were raised in church, had manners and was taught respect. Seems like everything is backwards now, what used to be wrong is now considered right, and what was right is now considered wrong! I'm with you, put a stop to it and set those people out, don't condone people that are dishonest and break the rules! Makes the federation look bad!!!!
Josh Jones and Jason Conn have openly said they have sold waypoints to elites for next season already. I can’t wait to watch those two argue over who gave the better info and had a higher finisher pay them.
No they didn't . Plainly says that on their Facebook pages that they did not and they were being funny.
@@robertlane370 idk where you saw that but on more than one post they have said they sold waypoints. Jones said he made $2k shortly after posting he had waypoints for sale. Haven’t seen anything about them saying they were joking.
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I remember saying from my parents and I'm an OG fisherman don't lie and live your life right and cream will rise to the top and the people who are honest will know that
When you come to Texoma for the bass champs championship I would really like to meet you, If that’s possible?
Typo on your title bro. “Revesed”. But Excellent talk, very very clear. Nice job.
Thank you. Man I can’t get this video right to save my life.😂😂
OMG, you are human Spinning Rod Todd.
Part of it is probably things being blatant or sneaky. Part of it is also probably the anglers... BASS pre split had a lot of big name anglers but now the anglers are younger, not saying there aren't old timers there. There are but they probably stayed out of this stuff because they see the toxic negativity it brings to the sport. Nowadays people just shoot a text instead of taking joe Bob out to lunch and "talk fishing". I follow tournament fishing but don't do it myself so I'm just guessing. I'm pretty weird about just telling someone I caught a fish somewhere 😂
Good content though Todd!
So I guess now we have to look for a Tournament Trail that has no ffs and no information rule pretty soon it's just going to be people standing on the bank😂 way to go Todd for putting it out there
We don't have to we're not professionals
Todd, how do the apps with a guide or put together by others spots fit into the information rule? I had heard guys bought various apps for spots to practice if nothing else.
I'm not sure thats an interesting question, if its public no big deal I guess, but if you pay for it kinda grey. Would it be like buying a map with boat lanes? Thats info and I'm sure its ok, but I guarantee you can ask privately where to run so you dont hit anything. Good question
There is no such thing as a professional fisherman. That is a lie you got sold when we were younger. Professional sportsmen don’t pay entry fees to the competitions. When was the last time tennis, baseball, football, golf players, required to pay an entry fee at the highest level of their sport? They haven’t. They get paid predetermined amounts, regardless of their final results. They might get more to win in some cases, but they get paid to lose, without paying to play. That is what a professional is. At best, there are semi amateur half assed sponsored fishermen. That’s it. The quicker that gets accepted, the quicker it can be changed.
Truth !!!!
Salesmen with an extended demo on the water.
In fishing there are no so called professionals just professional sales people. When you pay 40k in entry fees plus all the gear. Hoping to make money at the end of year is crazy thinking. Only a few fisherman actually make money just fishing. To me it's clearly evident when I watch live there is info being past around.
Some of these comments are comical, what does hunting and not fishing for 12 months a year have to do with the no info.rule
Professional pro fisherman tour lately. Has more drama than The Housewives of Beverly Hills….lol..lol
Maybe bass like controversy
Easy to address cheating. Disqualify them from the current event and the following event. Make the anglers feel the pain or offer a bounty to a whistle-blower who reports anglers seeking info
BASS is having a rough go of it...
Where does one sell way points ? can I sell them on marketplace ? Lol
what about tournament guys that go out with guides prior to tournaments ?
I think it’s corny
So how due you feel about Fish tips the website. Pros and other people are selling waypoints and other info. Even your friend Ish is on there. The pros in my opinion are promoting this and causing their own problems. Not saying all, but most.
I know they've approached me a bunch and I still have a hard time getting behind it. I'm pretty torn about it. However, I really dont think it would help those guys that much.
These are the guys that pass the polygraph because they don’t have a guilty conscience about what they did
Make the penalty so severe it’s just not worth it
I was confused as hell lol
I was bound to mess up eventually, I think this was a first. 😂
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 😂😂
What about pros that room together on the road? I've watched many videos of them talking to each other about where and what they fished and what they caught in practice maybe named Matt, scott and scott just to name a few.
It's not against the rules to get info from someone you're competing against.
The problem i have with that is, lets say some hypothetical angler named mark isnt doing so well, but his roomate jake is. Mark doesn't have anything to lose if he's in 60th so he could give jake some info that helps him take someone elses money.
I don't mind guys sharing info that are in the tournament except for one instance and I'll do a video one it. However, when you share info most times it hurts the person sharing.
My opinion on a professional tournament trail , each tournament shouldn't be scheduled send them a address and give them 2 days to get there and 1 to practice and let the best man win
Todd, your ole school bud, just like me, those days are gone unfortunately. These kids today want easy, it’s all about the $$$$ mommy and daddy got that back. As far as B.A.S.S. Is concerned, if I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times, NO leadership, they’ve gone woke
Stupid comment
The 2 young fellas that like that gray area, need to be banned for 3 years and made to qualify again through the opens. Make an example or lose your credibility.
That’s R. E. T. A. R. D. E. D.
Why?
@@HawgWyldFishing no it’s not. A lesson needs to be taught. If the accusations are proven, they need to removed and made to requalify. Nothing retarded about it. All it does is tell young fisherman that morals and ethics are not needed to be a pro fisherman.
Names please?
@@timarmstrong521 big phrase you just said, IF, they have not been proven. Fortunately as long as the flag flies in the US you are innocent until proven guilty. Being in the grey, is not the same as stuffing weights in fish and being caught. Maybe BASS needs to look in the mirror and start clarifying their rules?
You can see why Zona and KVD gtf out!
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BASS has taken a big hit for their handling of many of the things that have happened. BASS and MLF have BOTH made some bad calls to protect an anglers career???? What about your own reputation as a league??? I have always been a fan of the sport and watched all I could of all the leagues coverage over the years…. B.A.S.S. and MLF are poorly run organizations now. I’m going to start following NPFL more closely.
B.A.S.S. and MLF Have CATERED TO THE MCKINNEYS, WALTERS, AND TOMPKINS So they would Save their CAREERS, MCKINNEYS MOMMY WILL BE RUNNING B.A.S.S. BEFORE TOO LONG, SHE ALREADY IS DICTATING WHAT GOES ON THERE NOW!!!!
The fact that Dave Mercer was an Intral part at getting the decision reversed is absurd… When your MC has to get involved to get a rule changed, that’s pretty pathetic
Yep
If a so called pro can’t find the winning school of fish on their own , THEY SUCK !!!!
And your not a professional fisherman!!!
I mean if you get info and do good or even win I feel like I tarnished it I wouldn’t wanna win or do good in anything with anyone telling me anything
If you’re fishing the EQs you want to be an Elite angler you should not be anble to get info if you break the rule you should be banned from the Elites for ever You need info your not a pro
The information rule is dumb as hell to me. You can give someone GPS coordinates. That’s not gonna make the right fish admit defeat to them and jump in their boat, or keep them alive when they get there.
Ignorance
B.a.s.s. & BPT is not a top-level sport. First what is b.a.s.s. & BPT gross revenue? Elites and bpt only fish 9 events, when real top level sports play 16-162 games a year.
Do you actually know how one qualify for Wimbledon, u.s. open, Australia open, French open? It goes off your world ranking, you have play out country, travel U.S. pay to entree smaller tournaments to build your ranking. How about trying qualifying for the masters, PGA championship, Ryder cup, u.s. open cup?
Nfl, nba, mlb they make their money off selling out arenas, stadiums, jerseys, souvenirs, ect. Then the TV deal, each nfl team makes around 250 million on that.
B.a.s.s. and bpt is more like lower end of professional racing. Only handful of events where you can make money if you win. Or you better have really deep pockets or ride and sponsorship to cover everything.
Maybe they should reward creditable tips turned into BASS and punish false claims. Do majority of pros think like you or do majority want info/waypoints/key baits?
I think most want it FAIR or as Fair as possible
Look I respect most folks that love to fish. But there seems like some of the older elites who love to hunt don't want to work as hard as the younger guys at trying to win. Would rather hunt than put that extra time in to be the best at their sport. Those young guy are still going to more than likely whip the deer hunting crowd because they are hungrier. I think the hunters are highly upset their apple cart is a much tougher grind than they like. Get hungry/better and quit whining. They are still going to win. They have the rules like they like them. So what will the excuse/whine be next year.
I strongly disagree with this. There is so much going on here and just cause you put more time in today doesnt mean you get rewarded for tomorrow. If you take certain things away from these anglers certain things are gonna follow. I can't wait for next year cause a lot of people are gonna see the light on the other tours.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 You are a smart guy. Hard worker based on your videos. Efficiency is the name of this game. I am not great at it in my 60's. That being said if someone fishes 12 months out of the year continues to constantly learn both technique and habits of their prey. They will most likely do a lot better than those that are not full time pursuing the same goals. MLF's they will still get to practice with FFS . Elites are full time FFS. It seems the big key to me is learning how to be most efficient with it in practice. I am learning every time I go out how to catch more fish with it in shallow water. Usually not by looking at them but knowing they live there and why they live there. Those guys that rely on past knowledge can't compete with actual current knowledge.
Why r u talking about something you will never b a part of YOU A WANNABEE
You are correct I don't want to be a part of, thank you Patricia