Baritone Reacts to Golden Age Baritone BASTIANINI (Verdi arias)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2022
  • One of the greatest baritones to have ever lived, it was my honor to talk about two of Bastianini's iconic Verdi interpretations. I found the differences between the two (8 years apart) fascinating and I learned a lot about Bastianini's vocal development and evolution.
    Comment below with other baritones you'd like me to react to! Tenors, sopranos, mezzos, basses, too!

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  • @tenoremodernotecnicavecchi2151
    @tenoremodernotecnicavecchi2151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I highly recommend bastianini’s eri tu recording! One of the best operatic recordings ever!!

    • @barahona68
      @barahona68 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I highly recommend his live recording in 1957 in San Francisco or Chicago of "Nemici della patria", in a concert with Simionato and Tebaldi. You can't sing that aria any better than that.

    • @tenoremodernotecnicavecchi2151
      @tenoremodernotecnicavecchi2151 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@barahona68 well said… bastianini era il re dei baritoni verdi!!

    • @amantedellopera1681
      @amantedellopera1681 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try herleas eri tu

  • @matOpera
    @matOpera ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bastianini already had throat cancer in the first video (which may explain why he doesn’t hold the high notes as long). He was an astounding singer, and his untimely end is heartbreaking.

  • @b.b.3476
    @b.b.3476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Bastianini was a lion; the squillo is laser-like. The tragedy of his final days is heart breaking; having developed throat cancer, he told no-one…his final performances were critical failures because the critics didn’t know of his condition. For me, the over-all space and skill of Leonard Warren will always be my favorite of the golden age baritones, sea chanties not withstanding. Thanks for the vid!

    • @mrjimoberlin
      @mrjimoberlin ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said b.b 3476. My sentiments exactly!

    • @mrjimoberlin
      @mrjimoberlin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bastianini was not a "golden age" singer...far from it. One of the most incredible singers, and one of my all time favorites, but not a "golden age" singer

  • @zs1968
    @zs1968 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Dear Lucas,
    The first time I listened a Bastianini recording, it was a real shock for me!
    He had the most beautiful and noble baritone voice of postwar II.
    If you have the opportunity to go to his grave in his beloved Siena.... I did it several years ago.
    I m really happy that you enjoy his art so much.
    I wish you the very best in life always.

  • @manilasop1148
    @manilasop1148 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The problem nowadays - tenors with no debeloped high notes are becoming baritones. Old school was a pure treasure.

    • @pekkarissanen4926
      @pekkarissanen4926 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree 100%!👍

    • @user-hh8kt6yq1s
      @user-hh8kt6yq1s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pekkarissanen4926 th-cam.com/users/shortsWglrozqC7ec?si=okfDZv3xwXPr7kuq

    • @user-hh8kt6yq1s
      @user-hh8kt6yq1s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/users/shortsWglrozqC7ec?si=SukLoRysbgo_H9lZ

  • @bobturnley2787
    @bobturnley2787 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Bastianini had the most beautiful voice for Verdi of any baritone of the second half of the 20th century. He was the Corelli of baritones.

    • @marisamassimino6418
      @marisamassimino6418 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, mi dispiace per il grandissimo Corelli,ma la similitudine non regge: Corelli bravo in tutto, non si avvaleva di un timbro di voce perfetto. Di Perfetto conosco solo Bastianini!

    • @ingriddoppler
      @ingriddoppler ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marisamassimino6418 ❤

    • @ZENOBlAmusic
      @ZENOBlAmusic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marisamassimino6418 Corelli had one the most beautiful tenor voices, many people think so, a warm and voluptuous sound with gut piecing high notes. But a lot of people do like the light and pretty sound of light lyric tenors, everyone does have their taste. Corelli and Bastianini sounded very good together because they both had really warm voices. You do get tenor and baritones pairs that work very well together, I would say Corelli and Bastianini were a great baritone and tenor pairing. They were good friends, they met each other before they became famous, Corelli really stood with Bastianini at the end.

    • @mariaadelaidechierichetti7918
      @mariaadelaidechierichetti7918 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      La registrazione del Trovatore mi sembra quella di Tokio del 1965, poco più di un anno prima della morte.

  • @SpecialtyHorseTraining
    @SpecialtyHorseTraining ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I saw him in Chenier with Tebaldi and Corelli and got his autograph. The ultimate Chenier cast. Of course, got Corelli and Tebaldi's autographs too. Tebaldi almost as tall as Corelli!!

  • @sananton2821
    @sananton2821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We all want to see you do Battistini. It will completely change your view of singing for life. There's nobody else like him.

  • @juliorocha26
    @juliorocha26 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bastianini was, alongside Leonard Warren, the epitome of the true verdian baritone.

  • @stanfordfelix2003
    @stanfordfelix2003 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love what you say about the vowel spectrum. Can't keep that legato, in the slot support without it. Thank you for your very clear and precise review! He's one of my favorite singers.

  • @theartstraveler3162
    @theartstraveler3162 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lucas, on-spot analysis. I’ve recently soured on the opera business and all of the drama off stage, behind the scenes, and in administration. You bring me back to the joy of it. Plus I don’t think you are near your peak. It’s higher! Keep knocking it out of the park.

  • @emmamehesan9035
    @emmamehesan9035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I m not expert, only big fan of Maestro E B. I m fascinated by his voice and his performances. I beg pardon of the others baritones, no one gains upon him and never!

  • @splodsquadubdob
    @splodsquadubdob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your analysis, Lucas! You really provide such a wonderful energy to the TH-cam opera community. Also, I saw your Sharpless in London and it was absolutely fantastic! Look forward to hearing you in more!

    • @LucasMeachem1
      @LucasMeachem1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Gory!!! So kind of you. I’ll keep them coming as long as I can.

  • @DC-fy8cg
    @DC-fy8cg ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I listen to Bastianini mostly, his rendering of Largo Al Factotum is wondrous. But, Titta Ruffo in his prime was the greatest baritone I've listened to.

    • @timothycrombie3730
      @timothycrombie3730 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. Bastianini was great but Ruffo in his prime was incomparable.

    • @DC-fy8cg
      @DC-fy8cg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timothycrombie3730 Yes I agree. How I'd loved to have heard him "live" in his prime!

  • @tomvandongen8075
    @tomvandongen8075 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I listened to an excerpt of Del Monaco and Bastianini singing the duet from Forza and it was almost hard to tell who was singing at points, two Incredible dramatic singers, with range extending down and up respectively to almost meet in the middle, awesome to hear.
    Would love to hear your reaction to Del Monaco singing largo al factotum btw, tremendous fun (avoid the dodgy 1966 live performance though, it's unfortunately the top result on TH-cam)

  • @pryan5183
    @pryan5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh, how I loved seeing your reaction to this great artist.

  • @RussiaIsARiddle778
    @RussiaIsARiddle778 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think he sings with so much feeling because it is his native tongue. We Americans don’t have that going for us in operas. ❤

  • @BellaFirenze
    @BellaFirenze ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Com'è appropriato iniziare con "Il balen del suo sorriso", da Il trovatore di Verdi. Ettore Bastianini era un vero baritono verdiano. Aveva una voce gloriosa e bellissima. È una tregedia che sia morto di cancro alla gola all'età di 45 anni. Era anche estremamente bello. Anche tu sei bello. Tanti saluti da Firenze.

  • @jjlungdoc7472
    @jjlungdoc7472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent analysis.
    So much more instructive than master classes with a famous instructor imposing his/her singing anatomy on an innocent student. Caballè, Berganza, DiDonato and Fleming all come to mind.
    Thank you Mo Meachem.

    • @theartstraveler3162
      @theartstraveler3162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Preach! The masterclasses of the two contemporary names on that list are painful to watch and hear.

  • @miyoshiumeki
    @miyoshiumeki ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. You are a joy to watch and listen to, of course.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    He is singing de Luna here two years after being diagnosed with throat cancer. The tempo of the aria is indeed faster than what is traditional. Singers who are having trouble for any reason often request a fast tempo. Strange to call him ‘Golden Age’, a term associated with Battistini, Ruffo, Stracciari, Ancona, de Luca, etc.

    • @stephenschmall9029
      @stephenschmall9029 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with your comment about the golden age!!!

    • @mrjimoberlin
      @mrjimoberlin ปีที่แล้ว

      True...Bastianini was not a "golden age" singer...far from it. Incredible singer, but not a "golden age" singer

    • @jefolson6989
      @jefolson6989 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read too fast. Thought it would be Batastini. that's golden age!

    • @danielakerman8241
      @danielakerman8241 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! Was not aware of where it coincided with his diagnosis.

    • @Michael-mh4vr
      @Michael-mh4vr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I agree. He had a short prime career

  • @kevinbraden798
    @kevinbraden798 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I really liked your comments and explanations of what he was doing with his technique.

  • @ebestignani2699
    @ebestignani2699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bastianini began his studies as a basso! His registers and so evenly connected.

  • @mariagasparrini223
    @mariagasparrini223 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bastianini insuperabile! Sara' sempre nel nostro cuore Mariella

  • @angr3819
    @angr3819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you.
    I had never before heard a recording of him. He's pretty fantastic.

  • @richardw4336
    @richardw4336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel and had to subscribe. Loved your takes on these wonderful Bastianini clips. Would love your take on Giorgio Zancanaro's singing of Il Balen.

  • @curzonproduct
    @curzonproduct ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you heard his Largo al factotum? Absolutely astonishing - sung like a bat out of hell!

  • @et_baritone
    @et_baritone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this style of reaction video - so informative! Next, I'd really like to see your reaction to Tito Gobbi or George London!

    • @LucasMeachem1
      @LucasMeachem1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok!!! I did Gobbi in my last video on his Scarpia👍🏼👍🏼🤘🏼

    • @et_baritone
      @et_baritone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LucasMeachem1 I'll go have a listen right now!

    • @samirjarjoura8554
      @samirjarjoura8554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or Gino Bechi

  • @mrjimoberlin
    @mrjimoberlin ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lyric Baritones and Dramatic Baritones are two totally different animals. With all due respect, please know that some observations by a lighter voiced singer do not always apply, even as just a listener. It is hard to divorce one's technique from the way that one hears things. Different singers, in different fachs, go for different desired effects, and outcomes.

  • @stevenfredericks9844
    @stevenfredericks9844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You're right. Can't get any better than Ettore Bastianini!

  • @diegomr6969
    @diegomr6969 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ruffo, granforte (argentino) , bastianini, gobbi, las mejores voces que van a escucharen toda sus vidas.

  • @ANZORNABIULLIN
    @ANZORNABIULLIN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did you know that the voice on these old recordings sounds so dark and thick, not only because the singer's voice sounds like that, this effect of dark sound is obtained due to the fact that earlier recordings recorded sound in the range of up to 10,000 Hz, this is what darkens the sound so much and gives he has a special CHARM!

  • @mrjimoberlin
    @mrjimoberlin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Check out Bastianini's "Nemico della patria", if you want to hear something incredible. Color, phrasing, and that "something else" that mere mortals do not possess. Many different versions, of him, in this aria out there. All are good to amazing!

    • @barahona68
      @barahona68 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check the 1957 recording of "Nemico della patria" in a live concert in Chicago with Tebaldi and Simionato, it's amazing!

  • @alligatoruno6975
    @alligatoruno6975 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Have you listened to Apollo Granforte's Il Balen? He was a baritone but had the voice of a basso like Titta Ruffo but with more technique imo when you listen to him sing and hits all the high notes too, truly amazing

  • @luissirio5456
    @luissirio5456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NO HUBO . NO HAY. NI HABRA ALGUIEN MEJOR PORQUE ES IMPOSIBLE CANTAR MEJOR . GRANDIOSO ETTORE

  • @frankdetrano311
    @frankdetrano311 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beg to differ…Leonard Warren was the quintessential Golden Age Verdi baritone…do a review on him and your jaw will drop

  • @mikeystevens4784
    @mikeystevens4784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So great!!! If possible, I'd like to see you react to current Verdi Baritones like Quinn Kelsey, Zeljko Lucic or Luca Salsi please!

    • @drakenheart51
      @drakenheart51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don’t know if this is a good idea…

    • @basta.dotto_
      @basta.dotto_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drakenheart51 Why not?

    • @marisamassimino6418
      @marisamassimino6418 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@basta.dotto_ perché non interesserebbe nessuno. Siamo ridotti male con le voci di oggi.

  • @Herfinnur
    @Herfinnur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whaaaat? I had no idea there was actual footage of him!

  • @SerPetKo
    @SerPetKo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Immortal Bastianini!

  • @4444marla
    @4444marla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Italian teacher would say, ricanta, ricanta cara. Basically by re-speaking, or re- singing every note the voice vibrates and all the way through and is legato! Every note he sings vibrates and he is also using the technique described, I believe!

  • @andrejrustja2411
    @andrejrustja2411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess that his early singing is lighter because he's trying to sing with his own true baritone voice and not overdarken or force the sound. I think he's doing that especially because he started his career as a bass and sung for many years as a bass: I'm guessing that forcing or darkening the sound when you "swap the register" can happen pretty easily.

  • @pryan5183
    @pryan5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Re: his taking more breaths than you thought he would, remember he was singing while he had lung cancer, though he’d not disclosed that.

    • @pryan5183
      @pryan5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Though perhaps not that early on in his career.

    • @MindyLeahWilkinson
      @MindyLeahWilkinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Throat cancer.

  • @user-hy3uo5kr3q
    @user-hy3uo5kr3q 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are hilarious! I love it.

  • @EuskaltelEuskadi
    @EuskaltelEuskadi ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always Lucas!

  • @danielakerman8241
    @danielakerman8241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He didn't hang out on the final high G in the first example because he seemed to be straining a bit. You could hear him tighten up a bit in the first high G, and if you get tight there, the last section will almost definitely tighten you up more. He had to push a bit to get there at the end. Compare it to the 1962 studio recording under Tulio Serafin where he manages the aria with more freedom and seems to sing with a lighter, brighter approach (though that could just be how he was recorded).

  • @gabrielvelascorios8892
    @gabrielvelascorios8892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me: the BEST of the BEST. I Sing to him: -king of kings, and lord of Lords! And he shall...- and so on.
    There might be bigger voices, like Warren, but the sound, and the art rendered by Bastianinni is unparalel. The greatest by far.
    I'd like you yo react yo Zancanaro; beautifull!

  • @ANZORNABIULLIN
    @ANZORNABIULLIN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much talent and such a dramatic fate..

  • @torlefborsting471
    @torlefborsting471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That cabaletta after the aria is the real tell tale. It is very difficult especially if the tempo is not right. So hard!!

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan10950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating, as always! One thing I’ve noticed about Il Balen is that absolutely no one, except Nucci, sings the full cadenza at the end. I’ve always wondered if that cadenza was written by Verdi, or if Nucci interpolated it. Then again, IIRC, the clip I saw was with Muti, who would not have allowed an unwritten candenza. I’ll have to check it out.
    Here it is th-cam.com/video/kVX-ngmg_N8/w-d-xo.html. Obviously, Nucci isn’t in the same category as Bastianini, but he’s the only baritone I know of who sings the full candenza, with Muti cracking the whip!

  • @johnthetenor
    @johnthetenor ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenomenal and I love the commentary. Do you think he's a little stiff on the top? Perhaps it's the recording quality.

  • @mstrsims2
    @mstrsims2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think this Bastianini was 1950s PROGRESSO Opera television (yes Progresso soup :). I think Beverly Sills was the Violetta in that film.

  • @cynthiastogden7000
    @cynthiastogden7000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How come many opera singers end up with cancer. Dimitri Hvorostovsky is my all time favourite but he succumbed at only 56 to a brain tumour. He not onky looked beautiful but sang beautifully too.

  • @juliorocha26
    @juliorocha26 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd love to hear Mr Meacham's opinion about three of the greatest 20th century baritones: Merrill, Cappuccilli and Nucci.

  • @harrisbajraktari9454
    @harrisbajraktari9454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do Cesare Siepi, would really like to hear your opinion on Basses especially Siepi !?

  • @judsonmusick3177
    @judsonmusick3177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 1961 Bastianini was engaged to record the role of Iago in a Decca recording of Verdi's Otello. Herbert von Karajan was conducting, and the cast also included Mario del Monaco and Renata Tebaldi. For some reason Bastianini was replaced in this recording by Aldo Protti. Do you know why?

    • @roland-qg3dh
      @roland-qg3dh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Supposedly he just didn’t know the music, and that didn’t go over well with von Karajan

  • @caioabreupereira9965
    @caioabreupereira9965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! Talk about Renato Capecchi, please!

  • @operafan6794
    @operafan6794 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know he’s not an operatic singer, but I would love to hear your analysis of George Sanders’ voice. There is an audition tape of him singing Some Enchanted Evening on TH-cam and he did his own singing in the film version of Call Me Madam (the full movie is also on TH-cam).

  • @user-fq8ng4xu9n
    @user-fq8ng4xu9n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! Bravo, Lucas!!! Make a video with John Del Carlo or Luca Pisaroni or John Relyea. 😁😁😀😀😀😀😀😀

  • @tenorfigueroa
    @tenorfigueroa ปีที่แล้ว

    wondering why he was called the emperor of baritones :)
    tks for posting Lucas!

  • @marisamassimino6418
    @marisamassimino6418 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Come ho sempre affermato solo due voci si possono affiancare a Bastianini: Titta Ruffo e Gino Bechi, lasciando per estrema completezza lo scettro ad Ettore

  • @eduardoalvarado4330
    @eduardoalvarado4330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you could react to the chilean dramatic tenor/baritone Renato Zanelli. Unfortunately, there are no videos of him, but many audio recordings. :-)

  • @legatofancier
    @legatofancier ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Bastianini! Hope you'll comment on Giorgio Zancanaro, a favorite of mine from comparitively recent years. Of course, Riccardo Stracciari really deserves attention.

    • @mstrsims2
      @mstrsims2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love Zancanaro. First heard him in the video of ATTILA with Ramey. Reminded me of first time I hear Ingvar Wixell. It amazed me.

  • @operaderrick
    @operaderrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you reacted to Matio Battistini? There are recordings, but I doubt there is footage of him. He was known as the King of Singers and the singer of kings. He sang well into his 80s with a very little wobble. He developed asthma late in life which eventually took him from us. Massenet rewrote Werther so that the great master could sing the work. He sings in a true bel canto style because he lived through that era of time. Also, you may want to listen to Igor Gorin. What a beautiful voice.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      battistini is amazing

  • @matiass1150
    @matiass1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a beginning classical singer (propably bass), I'd love to see you react to other voice types as well, especially other male types!

    • @LucasMeachem1
      @LucasMeachem1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome. Any specific singers?

    • @matiass1150
      @matiass1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well "flexible" basses such as Ghiaurov, Siepi and Pinza

    • @bharp4390
      @bharp4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LucasMeachem1 Giacomini!

    • @PannenbergMusic
      @PannenbergMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LucasMeachem1 Kurt Moll :D

    • @marisamassimino6418
      @marisamassimino6418 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LucasMeachem1 Siepi e Ramey.

  • @ColonelFredPuntridge
    @ColonelFredPuntridge ปีที่แล้ว

    I see someone else asked you to react to Tito Gobbi and George London. Have you reacted to Rolando Panerai?

  • @definitelynosebreather
    @definitelynosebreather ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bastianini is the greatest singer I've ever heard.

  • @ronnieince4568
    @ronnieince4568 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you also do Umberto Urbano -not the final polish that his contemporaries had but an immense dark baritone and hugely famous in the 1920 -1930 decade .

  • @ryancflam
    @ryancflam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Baritone power!!

  • @Louis-kh4rx
    @Louis-kh4rx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this. As others have commented, it is lovely to watch you react to another singer. Bastianini had a magnificent voice and a good sense of line, but there are two things (very personal) that slightly bother me about his singing: the relative lack of variation in the dynamics (a tendency towards an unremitting forte) and his habit of aspirating. Folks have mentioned Bastianini (listen to his 'O sommo Carlo' in Ernani), Ruffo and Tibbett (whose splendid Germont with Ponselle [!] is preserved in toto) among other wonderful old singers. I cannot see any mention of another of my favourites, Pavel Lisitsian. He recorded a complete Traviata in the late 1940s. Yes, it is in Russian, but the voice and the singing surely qualify him as a great Verdi singer. Best wishes, Steve

    • @Louis-kh4rx
      @Louis-kh4rx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Typo alert- I meant Battistini with respect to Ernani

    • @michaelsteinberg5633
      @michaelsteinberg5633 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was pleasant to read recollections about Pavel Lisitsian, the favorite singer of my young times, whom I saw on stage more than once. The records do not transmit his specific voice in full. Its sound reminded dark chocolate with pepper. By pepper I mean a little guttural hint. In the high register his timbre changed, but not as sharply as in the records. His best roles were Onegin, Germont, and Valentin (Faust).
      Michael

  • @bmwinther8971
    @bmwinther8971 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bastianini had a glorious voice. Verdi and Bastianini, that combined is a real treat. I know many voices that mr Meachem surely could react to. One suggestion would be tenor Flaviano Labo singing Cielo e Mar on The Ed Sullivan show. (TH-cam)

  • @Garwfechan-ry5lk
    @Garwfechan-ry5lk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could also put Gian Giacomo Guelfi and Apollo Granforte on.

  • @DubiousDubs
    @DubiousDubs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see a reaction to either Hans Hotter or Samuel Ramey

  • @ANZORNABIULLIN
    @ANZORNABIULLIN ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Lucas, please comment on the singer named Georg Ots and Muslim Magomayev. These are two gorgeous baritones of the 20th century!

  • @jefolson6989
    @jefolson6989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has Lucas done De Luca already?

  • @somekindofdude1130
    @somekindofdude1130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man dont feel bad for not being able to hit that E2(?) he had been trainning as a bass before becoming a bari this is why.

  • @Ashnarath
    @Ashnarath ปีที่แล้ว

    Please find a Baritone named John Rawnsley singing largo al factotum, he is an absolute beast. Probably the best I have ever seen

  • @edraith
    @edraith ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bastianini was more of a natural Basso Profondo with an incredibly wide range and control over his high tessitura.
    Keeping that in mind it becomes even more incredible how he was able to be one of the top Verdi Baritones ever, a Verdi Baritone being a Dramatic HIGH Baritone, a voice more akin to a Heldentenor than to a Bass-baritone...

    • @DubiousDubs
      @DubiousDubs ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir, basso profundo is literally the lowest voice type there is. Ettore, though low for a baritone, was nowhere NEAR what would be required for profundo. Listen to his G2s- present, but nothing crazy. Now think of the fact that profundos are expected to be capable of projecting low Ds and even Cs often times.

    • @edraith
      @edraith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DubiousDubs yes yes you are perfectly right but in an opera voice that would depend a lot on how you decide to train and develop your voice and emission in order to keep that amount of voice, harmonics and resonance over roughly two octaves of vocal range that would be, in an Opera singing context related to mainly Romanticismo and Verismo Opera, deemed perfectly educated and well formed.
      But the whole entirety of vocal range is a different thing altogether.
      Like Gigli used to say you have a blanket you need to develop and you need to apply over your voice and, no matter how good you are, the blanket will always be too short to cover both your feet and your head.
      Bastianini chose the baritone way ofc, hence those aspects you absolutely correctly notice. But had he chosen to train and develop as a Basso Profondo (and I mean it in an Opera way, NOT the octavist bass for orthodox liturgic chants) he would have been an astounding bass.

    • @DubiousDubs
      @DubiousDubs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edraith that is blatantly untrue. Never once have I heard from any credible source that you could just choose your voice type. The folds have a natural limit as to how far they can relax, and beyond that natural limit lies, at best, fry that might be usable on mic, but has no place in opera. You are born with one voice, and while you can train the high end to go higher, the same ain't true for the low end. And while you can perform outside of your voice type, like ramey performing don giovanni, that's all it is- performing outside of your voice type.
      Lastly, the Russian oktavist is simply a profundo in a choir. My source? The word of Glenn Miller, Eric Holloway, and Thou Yang, all performing oktavists right now. There are some exceptions to this rule in the form of those who have mastered things like subharmonics, which is what Thou Yang does, but of those who use chest voice, their voice type is profundo.

    • @edraith
      @edraith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DubiousDubs @DubiousDubs I never said you can freely choose your voice type.
      One is limited to what nature gave him and to many other factors that are related to epigenetics. Some have more, some have less. Some manage to develop more and some less.
      Many great singers that had from both nature and from hard work/development the gift and the result of a voice greater than normal were actually, factually, objectively able to bend their nature and force themselves into creating either a lower or higher kind of operatic voice than what the very central part of their voice would have naturally advised them to do. You can do that and it was actually more common in older times than in the XX Century when we became extremely nitpicky and kinda violent about what Opera should be.
      Opera roles and vocal types are a convention, not something completely set in stone, as I believe you might well know. Some people just have so great of a gift that they can veer more towards one inclination or another (lower or higher, more lirico-leggero or more dramatic) but it's not always that easy to do and it is the result of many long years of training.
      It's very difficult to define a voice and, as you likely know, vocal range or resonance are not always telling us much, I believe you would concur. Like we had baritones with counterhigh D5 and Eb5 who were actually pretty low and dark voiced baritones we also had great Tenori leggeri whose voices topped at A4 or Bb4: one should not think of categories as Laws of Physics. Also, depending on how you use your voice and set your emission you can access either larger or smaller portions of your vocal range and, in Opera singing, you have to "build" in time a couple octaves (two, up to two and a half) of your vocal range out of the 3-3/½ of vocal range that nature usually gives us (I'm not counting falsetto neither vocal fry nor subharmonics).
      Also none of what I said is untrue, AT ALL.
      My sources are having studied and put to scrutiny some centuries of writings, treatises, compositions, witnessings and then again possessing some kind of understanding of the topic being trained as an opera singer and having studied vocology and phoniatrics many years long but you are welcome to disagree since I might still be wrong with some or many opinions of mine, just avoid treating with contempt someone who most likely has studied some tens of thousands of hours more than most people you have ever heard of, it's unnecessary and not polite.

    • @edraith
      @edraith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to also add that if I'm not mistaken Thou Yang is that bass on TH-cam that sings as baritone, bass and, with the help of subharmonics, as oktavist bass. From your reply we have to infer he doesn't exist since his very existence would break the very fabric of reality, just like Nozzari, Nourrit, Callas, Spyres, Ramey, Verret, Garcìa Senior, Naouri and many many others who sang quite the repertoire over very different tessituras and covering the very vast vocal range of a couple different vocal "types": I believethat in order to strongly and completely disagree with me at all costs you might have been too strong in your answer.
      You likely also know how constantly it happens that voices which are quite strong in emission and large in vocal range but have some insecurity or defect in their voice get easily mis-categorised in a lower or higher type of voice. People having been different times wrongly categorised from bass to tenor are not unheard of and I believe you are well aware of this fact.
      Peace, my friend.

  • @ClergetMusic
    @ClergetMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever considered reviewing Mattia Battistini?

  • @barbarahernandez3531
    @barbarahernandez3531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. I love this channel
    2. I want an inner snarl

  • @frb1808
    @frb1808 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please make a video on DIETRICH FISCHER-DIESKAU and THOMAS HAMPSON, who have been accused many times as lazy or closet tenors for being among the lightest lyric baritones in recent history.

    • @johnblasiak2499
      @johnblasiak2499 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dieskau worse baritone I ever heard at such a high level on the other hand Thomas Hampson was fantastic

  • @benthomasstrong4033
    @benthomasstrong4033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is the Hampson reaction? Love these videos!!

    • @operafairy
      @operafairy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh, no, he is not even baritone )))

    • @gualtiermalde645
      @gualtiermalde645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@operafairy Lyric Baritone

    • @operafairy
      @operafairy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gualtiermalde645 even lyric baritone has to have some low notes, it is a matter of tessitura 🤣

    • @gualtiermalde645
      @gualtiermalde645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@operafairy Saying that Thomas Hampson is not a baritone just because he doesn't have the same robust tone as most is like saying that Bryn Terfel is not a bass baritone.

    • @gualtiermalde645
      @gualtiermalde645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@operafairy Exactly, he doesn't have a tenor range, his comfort region is totally baritone

  • @user-hs5vq6hp3y
    @user-hs5vq6hp3y ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Umberto Urbano?

  • @joetursi9573
    @joetursi9573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If DelMonico were a baritone he would be Bastianini

    • @user-mk8kw4eg2s
      @user-mk8kw4eg2s ปีที่แล้ว

      Ха, ха! Если бы Дель Монако был басом, он был бы - Шаляпиным . Вот рассмешили...

  • @user-mk8kw4eg2s
    @user-mk8kw4eg2s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Потрясающий баритон с невероятным по красоте голосом и трагической судьбой... И на этом видео(где он поёт il Balen) , он уже очень болен... и всё равно звучит крышесносно!

    • @user-ry9zf5fp4v
      @user-ry9zf5fp4v ปีที่แล้ว

      Гектор просто идеальный баритон

  • @2012nut
    @2012nut ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aldo Protti!!!

  • @leonardonavarr
    @leonardonavarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Así se canta señor , aprendamos!!!

  • @1968KWT
    @1968KWT ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP #EttoreBastianini100 (born #otd in 1922) 🌹🌹🌹

  • @arlecchino4981
    @arlecchino4981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    go react to Gino Bechi, надеюсь хоть вы сделаете реакцию

  • @curzonproduct
    @curzonproduct ปีที่แล้ว

    Time to look at the splendid Renato Bruson, too!

  • @uriahsack4824
    @uriahsack4824 ปีที่แล้ว

    @lucas meachem can you do a video of "Euch macht Ihr's leicht"?

  • @user-lv8hf1nm9y
    @user-lv8hf1nm9y ปีที่แล้ว

    바스티아니니의 보이스는 멋지고 멋지다!

  • @triciaerimo
    @triciaerimo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listen to a very old recording (1907!): Francesco Maria Bonini e Giannina Russo: Madamigella Valery. His sound is wonderful! He also recorded "Di Provenza"

  • @jenstripmacker645
    @jenstripmacker645 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please make a reacting Video of Jose Van Damme?

  • @meltzerboy
    @meltzerboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was not the golden age; it was the afterglow. The true golden age, particularly for baritones, was at the beginning of the 20th century and before. Mattia Battistini, THERE was a golden-age baritone; a bit later, Titta Ruffo, Mario Ancona, Giuseppe de Luca, Pasquale Amato, Riccardo Stracciari. And later still, American singers such as Lawrence Tibbett, Leonard Warren, and Robert Merrill.

    • @sananton2821
      @sananton2821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Warren and Merrill really don't belong on that list. Totally different styles.

    • @tonshaad1230
      @tonshaad1230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MacNeil deserves a spot as a true golden age baritone.

    • @meltzerboy
      @meltzerboy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sananton2821 They are at least part of the afterglow of the golden age, as is Bastianini.

    • @meltzerboy
      @meltzerboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tonshaad1230 Having heard MacNeil in the theater, I can say he had a most beautiful baritone voice in his prime as well as a great technique. So I have to agree with you.

  • @jesseenderle
    @jesseenderle ปีที่แล้ว

    Zancanaro! You MUST react to Giorgio Zancanaro.

  • @TenoreMr
    @TenoreMr ปีที่แล้ว

    Mario Sereni!!

  • @hunt3r36
    @hunt3r36 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ILLUMINATING! THANK YOU VERY MUCH especially because I TOO am a great fan/admirerer of Maestro BASTIANINI, AND of course LOVER OF VERDI'S MUSIC. HE, (VERDI), WAS UNEQUALED and IRREPLACEABLE, (if there is such a word). When I am sad or feeling alone, I put on a VERDI OPERA, (ANYONE), and then I AM HOME AND AT PEACE. THANKS BE TO GOD FOR GIUSEPPE VERDI!!!, (AND, Ettore Bastianini). The "other" BARITONE I became "familiar and "loved" in the '50s was Leonard Warren especially him singing RIGOLETTO. I have never heard anyone sing RIGOLETTO as he did. I especially loved him singing "Pari siamo". So far, I haven't heard his better or just equal. Again, Thank you.

  • @somerandomguy84
    @somerandomguy84 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listen to that pure AH at 2:14. Unfairly pretty

  • @roimerlopez1275
    @roimerlopez1275 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing reaction my friend Lucas!!....In 2017, the music world was shocked by the bursting onto the scene of a 22-year-old singer named Dimash Kudaibergen, who performed on the famous Chinese competition show for professional singers called “The Singer”... It was just It was necessary for this young man to make his first appearance, making a cover of one of the most difficult songs in the world, a famous French composition called "S.O.S. D'un Terrien En Détresse", to be considered from that moment on as the best singer in the entire planet....No one in the musical field had ever seen a human being, being able to reach vocal ranges above 7 octaves and several semitones, that is, all 88 keys of a digital piano, which reaches a little more than 7 octaves and as if that weren't enough, sing the more than 12 languages...He can sing like a Tenor, Baritone, Medio, Soprano, Messosoprano, etc....Since then all kinds of experts (Vocal coach, analysts, singing teachers, youtubers, reactors, etc.) have dedicated themselves to reviewing their presentations to try to understand how someone can sing this way...The incredible thing is that that presentation in China was in 2017 and 5 years have passed since then, but what Dimash has done in these 5 years is to further improve his wide vocal range, which is currently practically above of the 8 octaves... The Covid pandemic stopped his concerts worldwide, all with tickets sold in just seconds, via the internet, but at the same time it ended up catapulting him to the top of popularity worldwide...Anyway, since I think you are one of those reactors who have not yet met this impressive singer, here is the link of that presentation in China in 2017, with the song S.O.S. and I would like you to mention my name as the person who recommended him to you...You have to be prepared because you ar going to receive an avalanche of views, comments and new subscribers....I leave you one more recent video than the others, so it does not have the same number of views as the previous ones, which have millions of views, but it is a more complete video, with an intro, subtitles in several languages and with the improved quality of audio and sound....th-cam.com/video/bDX3FhmyNac/w-d-xo.html

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you.
      I used the link and tbh - he needs a microphones and the first notes I heard....well I clicked off. A few notes isn't fair to judge him on I suppose but the need to be almost swallowing a microphone is, sorry to say. He is extremely young and has years to go before he is in his prime though, so he might be able to fix it all and concentrate on how his natural voice should be instead of stressing his vocal chords to reach so many types. If he doesn't he is likely to ruin his voicebox.

  • @arnaudrcs
    @arnaudrcs ปีที่แล้ว

    Do Sopranos 🙏🏼