Fantastic videos, i just love the Professional approach from Esoteric, and its easy for for me (im a DIY street detailer) to make top notch results on my Porsche 911 !
Hi! First of all great video! Just a question, I recently coated both sets of my wheels and I still have some left in the bottle. Now I dont want it to go to waste, could I use it on the cars paint? Perhaps only doing the hood and the roof. Are there any downsides or dangers to using it on the cars paint? And if so what are they?
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing can you put this on American force wheels their aluminum and polished out to a chrome look..there very expensive I just don't want to mess them up I know you said aluminums Is ok
i see you using bathe to foam the wheels (straight out the bottle??) is this still the best product to use to clean the wheels after the chemical decontamination?
We like it because it has no extras or additives in it. So by using Bathe, it's simply cleaning the surface without leaving anything behind...perfect for pre or post coating applications.
Thanks, Nick! You can put the wheels back on within a few hours, then I'd wait until the next day to drive it. The longer you can keep them dry, the better...
HII am mobile and I am looking for some protection for wheels. I dont have the luxury of being able to remove wheel, would you still recommend using only on face of wheels or would wet coat suit me better ?
So after you apply the coating,and it cures.....I assume you can use any heavy duty wheel cleaners...only soap an water....so not to remove the coating...right!?
After properly coating, you shouldn't need to use heavy wheel cleaners. But if you let the wheels go for a long period of time without cleaning, you could use something like Gyeon Iron or Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus on them. Then just use soap and water to maintain.
Fascinating video Todd. I saw you used product on painted brake calipers but I was wondering about using Gyeon or an alternative product on the inner barrels which I have painted and clear coated. I'll dispute your statement that the German cars are the worst offenders of brake dust. My C6 Corvette will give nightmares to any owner of a German made (Porsche) vehicle. It's the bain of my existence. lol Again, love all your videos.
Yes, you can use Rim on any wheel type / finish both inside and outside. For your Corvette, it will make cleanup much easier. I would recommend applying 2 coats for best results! Thanks for the positive feedback...
I’ve seen some detailers spray it on with a tool. I have some rims that I would need to spray bc I can’t get a sponge in the little spots but I look online and can’t find anything. Any idea what they use and do y’all sell it in your website?
They would be using basically a paint spray gun. It's not as easy as simply picking one up...you need a smaller one, you need to figure out the best pressures to use, etc.
So should you toss the little rags and application piece after each wheel? Or between each set of coats? Would it still be okay to use after the hour or so of curing or should you use new ones?
That's for the body coatings. Since coatings continue to cure for about a 5 day period, it's always good to allow them to go as long as possible without getting them wet, but that's not always practical. Keep them dry for the first 24 hours and you should be good to go. You could use something like Gyeon Cure or POLISHANGEL Supersport to occasionally maintain the wheels so that you get maximum durability.
I want to apply 4-5 coats, waiting 2 hours between. My question is, do I have to throw the pads away after every layer or just after I finished 4-5 coats? I wonder when the cristallizing process begins
You don't need that many coats, and the product will most likely start to reject itself after 2 or 3. If you're going to wait that long between coats, then you'd want to use new applicators / towels.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing The potential problem I see is that coating the face of one (intricate) wheel can take much longer than 2 minutes. Should the face be done in sections rather than all at once?
In the case of the two wheel coating products in particular you're referring to, the Kamikaze will have more durability, hence the higher price. In coatings, the price is (usually) directly related to the durability...
@@Esotericdetail i understand that, but before this product came you have used MOHS+ for the rims... So MOHS+ can be used on rims and almost everything. since they have longer durability why use this version specific to rims?
Because only Certified installers can use Mohs+, not everybody would want to spend that much on a wheel coating, and because you can apply just 1 layer of Rim. There's always a Good / Better / Best offering, and not everybody wants "Best".
I used this product, applied if back in October on my M2 that has been driven 12,000 miles. I did 2 coats using the same procedure as you have described. It seems to have lost its effectiveness around 8,000 miles perhaps a little later. Do I need to do anything special to do the new coats or just do the same procedure? Also I bought the Kamakaze Stance Rim Coat from you thinking that might last longer so I have both products available. Do you have an opinion as to which is the best for protection and something that might last a little longer than 8-9,000 miles? Not sure if it matters but I live in AZ so lots of heat here. I am what would be probably called a advanced amateur detailer so I don't mind detailing my car but I do want to go with the best product I can. Thanks
There are a lot of factors that come into play with durability on wheels...heat, how often you wash, what you use to wash, etc, etc. Using a pH neutral soap with water is the preferred method to maintain durability. Also, you may want to use something like POLISHANGEL Supersport to maintain them as well (video available on our TH-cam channel) as this will help with durability. When you look at the good/better/best scale, Rim would fall into the "better" category, and Stance would be in the "best" category. But then again, Stance is more than twice the price!
Great info. I had a similar question and have bought both Gyeon Rim coat and Kamikaze Stance to compare for myself. Note to self, POLISHANGEL for next order....
TBone, Thank you for the question! To reapply, simply perform a thorough Gyeon Tar and/or Prep wipe down and reapply the coating. You can maintain the wheel coating with either Gyeon WetCoat, or a product like Polish Angel Super Sport. These two maintenance coatings will act as a sacrificial layer for your wheel coating, enabling longer durability. KAMIKAZE Stance Rim Coat is also a fantastic product; which can be applied as easily after an initial Tar/ Prep Wipe. Stance Rim Coat can also be layers on top of itself, or with a base layer of Kamikaze Miyabi, for longer durability.
I just picked up a kit... Ive never used ceramic before, but was wondering how it will work on the barrel of my new rims... They have a somewhat rough finish on the barrel.. Here is a link to the rims i have www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-C7-Z51-Style-Corvette-wheels-FITS-2005-2013-C6-BASE-Z51-18-19-/142754516297?
Assuming you purchased it from us, thank you for your business. We have applied it to plenty of chrome wheels with a rough inner barrel. It takes a little more effort on and off due to the texture, but works just fine.
@@Esotericdetail I actually bought it off amazon.... Guess i got junk produce as it seem to be bad... Shouldnt i have a slick feel to surface ??? My quick detailer gave me a better slick finish
You don't have to throw away removal towels. Just plop them into a bucket of cleaning solution like water and Towel Kleen and soak them as you complete your job. Once done, just empty the bucket, wring them out and put them in the wash. They turn out just fine.
I have brand new wheels still in the boxes, can I just use the Gyeon prep, then the coating?
Correct...that is exactly how you would treat brand new wheels.
Fantastic videos, i just love the Professional approach from Esoteric, and its easy for for me (im a DIY street detailer) to make top notch results on my Porsche 911 !
Thank you, and glad you are finding them educational!
Hi! First of all great video!
Just a question, I recently coated both sets of my wheels and I still have some left in the bottle. Now I dont want it to go to waste, could I use it on the cars paint? Perhaps only doing the hood and the roof.
Are there any downsides or dangers to using it on the cars paint? And if so what are they?
You won't get the same level of looks as you would a paint-specific coating.
Love the Gyeon products. Todd your videos are super informative. Great job. Keep it up.
Thank you, and glad to hear that you're enjoying the videos! There are plenty more to come, so please be sure to share our channel.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing can you put this on American force wheels their aluminum and polished out to a chrome look..there very expensive I just don't want to mess them up I know you said aluminums Is ok
Polishing aluminum is fine!
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing thank you sir I'll buy some
i see you using bathe to foam the wheels (straight out the bottle??) is this still the best product to use to clean the wheels after the chemical decontamination?
We like it because it has no extras or additives in it. So by using Bathe, it's simply cleaning the surface without leaving anything behind...perfect for pre or post coating applications.
Gonna have to get some! Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic video! How long should you leave it till can put wheels back on/drive the car?
Thanks, Nick! You can put the wheels back on within a few hours, then I'd wait until the next day to drive it. The longer you can keep them dry, the better...
After applying coat do you have to let it sit for couple minutes then wipe of with microfiber towel?
Correct.
Love your simplistic and detailed videos, already ordered a few of Gyeon products 👍. Quick question, is this safe for anodized wheels? Thank you
HII am mobile and I am looking for some protection for wheels. I dont have the luxury of being able to remove wheel, would you still recommend using only on face of wheels or would wet coat suit me better ?
Wetcoat would be a good and quick solution, but it would be better suited for cars that you regularly maintain as it wouldn't have much durability.
So after you apply the coating,and it cures.....I assume you can use any heavy duty wheel cleaners...only soap an water....so not to remove the coating...right!?
After properly coating, you shouldn't need to use heavy wheel cleaners. But if you let the wheels go for a long period of time without cleaning, you could use something like Gyeon Iron or Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus on them. Then just use soap and water to maintain.
Fascinating video Todd. I saw you used product on painted brake calipers but I was wondering about using Gyeon or an alternative product on the inner barrels which I have painted and clear coated. I'll dispute your statement that the German cars are the worst offenders of brake dust. My C6 Corvette will give nightmares to any owner of a German made (Porsche) vehicle. It's the bain of my existence. lol Again, love all your videos.
Yes, you can use Rim on any wheel type / finish both inside and outside. For your Corvette, it will make cleanup much easier. I would recommend applying 2 coats for best results! Thanks for the positive feedback...
Safe for chrome rims??
Yes.
Do you recommend polishing of the wheels as part of the preparation process?
No need to...
I have some leftovers since I coated a car with Gyeon Syncro, can I use Syncro on clear coated wheels?
It wouldn't be a good fit for the wheels...
ESOTERIC thanks for the reply, I went ahead and got some GYEON Q2 RIM, was just curious. Have a great day.
I’ve seen some detailers spray it on with a tool. I have some rims that I would need to spray bc I can’t get a sponge in the little spots but I look online and can’t find anything. Any idea what they use and do y’all sell it in your website?
They would be using basically a paint spray gun. It's not as easy as simply picking one up...you need a smaller one, you need to figure out the best pressures to use, etc.
What would you recommend for someone who cant physically take the wheels off the car?
You could regularly maintain them with Gyeon WetCoat: th-cam.com/video/obG572fSQB4/w-d-xo.html
Is this recommended for powdercoated wheels, I have gloss black,just had them done and was told not to ceramic coat them??
Coating powdercoated wheels is just fine...not sure why somebody would say otherwise.
@@Esotericdetail they said they would not warranty them if they are ceramic coated
So should you toss the little rags and application piece after each wheel? Or between each set of coats? Would it still be okay to use after the hour or so of curing or should you use new ones?
Use the same for all 4 wheels for the first coat, then another set for the second coat.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing understood, thank you!
Don't GYEON also recommend applying CURE after 24 hours to prevent water spotting and then not to wash with any detergents for 7 days?
That's for the body coatings. Since coatings continue to cure for about a 5 day period, it's always good to allow them to go as long as possible without getting them wet, but that's not always practical. Keep them dry for the first 24 hours and you should be good to go. You could use something like Gyeon Cure or POLISHANGEL Supersport to occasionally maintain the wheels so that you get maximum durability.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing what about cure as a sacrificial layer? Or is wetcoat better or more suitable?
I just coated my rims with Gyeon rim....can I use it on my exhaust tips?
Yes you can.
I want to apply 4-5 coats, waiting 2 hours between. My question is, do I have to throw the pads away after every layer or just after I finished 4-5 coats? I wonder when the cristallizing process begins
You don't need that many coats, and the product will most likely start to reject itself after 2 or 3. If you're going to wait that long between coats, then you'd want to use new applicators / towels.
Does it save for polish ally rims.
I'm not sure I follow the question.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing I think he want to ask if it's safe for polished aluminium rims...
Brilliant ! Many thanks - ordered.
How long do I wait till I begin the removal process? Also how long do I wait till I do a second coat?
Wait just a couple of minutes for removal, and about an hour between coats. Let it dry for 24 hours before driving the vehicle.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing The potential problem I see is that coating the face of one (intricate) wheel can take much longer than 2 minutes. Should the face be done in sections rather than all at once?
This or kkd revolve x?
Sorry, but never even heard of that product...
Think KKD is more of a European based product. An excellent one at that!
Informative video. Thanks!
So After applying it, can I pit rims back on the car right away? Or keep it in garage for how long?
Put them back on right away, and keep them dry for at least 24 hours.
Which is better Gyeon or Kamikaze? I see Kamikaze is quite a bit more expensive.
In the case of the two wheel coating products in particular you're referring to, the Kamikaze will have more durability, hence the higher price. In coatings, the price is (usually) directly related to the durability...
Ok thank you sir.
Is this safe for matte black wheels?
Yes it is. We use it on matte / satin wheels all of the time.
what's the difference between this and MOHS+? just marketing? MOHS+ has longer durability...
They are two completely different products!
@@Esotericdetail i understand that, but before this product came you have used MOHS+ for the rims... So MOHS+ can be used on rims and almost everything. since they have longer durability why use this version specific to rims?
Because only Certified installers can use Mohs+, not everybody would want to spend that much on a wheel coating, and because you can apply just 1 layer of Rim. There's always a Good / Better / Best offering, and not everybody wants "Best".
@@Esotericdetail that is a very good reply
I used this product, applied if back in October on my M2 that has been driven 12,000 miles. I did 2 coats using the same procedure as you have described. It seems to have lost its effectiveness around 8,000 miles perhaps a little later. Do I need to do anything special to do the new coats or just do the same procedure? Also I bought the Kamakaze Stance Rim Coat from you thinking that might last longer so I have both products available. Do you have an opinion as to which is the best for protection and something that might last a little longer than 8-9,000 miles? Not sure if it matters but I live in AZ so lots of heat here. I am what would be probably called a advanced amateur detailer so I don't mind detailing my car but I do want to go with the best product I can.
Thanks
There are a lot of factors that come into play with durability on wheels...heat, how often you wash, what you use to wash, etc, etc. Using a pH neutral soap with water is the preferred method to maintain durability. Also, you may want to use something like POLISHANGEL Supersport to maintain them as well (video available on our TH-cam channel) as this will help with durability. When you look at the good/better/best scale, Rim would fall into the "better" category, and Stance would be in the "best" category. But then again, Stance is more than twice the price!
Great info. I had a similar question and have bought both Gyeon Rim coat and Kamikaze Stance to compare for myself. Note to self, POLISHANGEL for next order....
TBone, Thank you for the question! To reapply, simply perform a thorough Gyeon Tar and/or Prep wipe down and reapply the coating. You can maintain the wheel coating with either Gyeon WetCoat, or a product like Polish Angel Super Sport. These two maintenance coatings will act as a sacrificial layer for your wheel coating, enabling longer durability. KAMIKAZE Stance Rim Coat is also a fantastic product; which can be applied as easily after an initial Tar/ Prep Wipe. Stance Rim Coat can also be layers on top of itself, or with a base layer of Kamikaze Miyabi, for longer durability.
POLISHANGEL Super Spot is an absolutely fantastic product!
I just picked up a kit... Ive never used ceramic before, but was wondering how it will work on the barrel of my new rims... They have a somewhat rough finish on the barrel.. Here is a link to the rims i have
www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-C7-Z51-Style-Corvette-wheels-FITS-2005-2013-C6-BASE-Z51-18-19-/142754516297?
Assuming you purchased it from us, thank you for your business. We have applied it to plenty of chrome wheels with a rough inner barrel. It takes a little more effort on and off due to the texture, but works just fine.
@@Esotericdetail I actually bought it off amazon.... Guess i got junk produce as it seem to be bad... Shouldnt i have a slick feel to surface ??? My quick detailer gave me a better slick finish
You don't have to throw away removal towels. Just plop them into a bucket of cleaning solution like water and Towel Kleen and soak them as you complete your job. Once done, just empty the bucket, wring them out and put them in the wash. They turn out just fine.
Do so at your own risk...
Can this be used on a fibreglass front lip?
Fiberglass on wheels?
@@Esotericdetail sorry, can the rim coat be used on a front lip under a bumper. A front lower spoiler that's made of fibreglass material