Pushing down on the outside peg really does nothing much. Well, it feels good 😉 What it does do is anchor you to the bike so your counter steering is more effective. You can achieve the same by gripping the tank and locking your heels into the bike.
Never heard of pushing into pegs before this video. Looking forward to try. But I did notice a huge difference if I use my knees to grip a tank and try to use knees to lean a bike through tank. The bike turns significantly easier and smoother. At least that's how it feels. From your message I guess that it's not that I'm actually making a lean easier with my knees on tank, but that probably I can follow the bike better when I start to turn, thus giving this impression of better handling and easier leaning.
@@MrWhothefoxthat I came across John because he was marked down to be my associates examiner. I don’t necessarily agree with everything John says. For a start there is a distinct difference between driving a car and riding a bike that the ipsga rule of thumb doesn’t completely apply. But only a biker that has ridden for years will understand compared to an examiner for cars transferring his skills to the bike clearly doesn’t
🤣 ... 🪰 SPLAT! 1 on the camera and hundreds on the visor 😳 ... it's that time of year again! Started watching your videos a couple of months back in preparation for buying my 1st bike in 40 years. No formal training EVER so I went to a Monday 1to1 'Return to Riding' course. The following Saturday I started ROSPA Advanced Rider Training with Advanced Riders North Yorkshire (ARNY) and on selected social rides they organise -some start an hour away and end up 2 hours from home🙄 . 6 weeks on, with a 10 day Covid break, I'm loving the daily bike rides can't wait to get up to practice slow steering manoeuvres around a deserted supermarket car park and have clocked up over 2500 miles. 67, retired and enjoying every minute. Loving the instructive videos and keep rewatching to milk every ounce of advice I can. Thank you Mr. Local! 😊
Target fixation is probably the number 1 cause of avoidable accidents. I do find it slightly odd (but not surprising) that most advanced riding organisations frown upon the use of body positioning other than described within the video, as you rightly say, more use of body positioning allows less angle of lean for the same cornering speed. I suppose the theory is that by using a neutral (mostly) body position reduces the speed and therefore risk whilst cornering. Personally, I think an amount of body positioning is helpful, but not to the extent used on track whilst road riding. Thanks for another informative video :)
50p steering is because the corner is unknown and, and there might be crap n the road. I bet you'd do 50p on 32nd and 33rd.... whilst I don't disagree with your discussion... experience is worth a thousand words. Counter steering and trail braking are but 2 skills that experienced riders have learned. Riding is an art, not a science.
It's a myth that it's possible to turn the bike without counter steering first. This myth has been busted multiple times by F9, MotiJistu, etc. There's simply no way to turn the bike without counter steering. Even if you going only 6mph or whatever speed, you must counter steer to initiate a turn. If anyone was ever capable to not counter steer and make a turn, we would have those videos on TH-cam already. So far no one succeeded P.S. a stolen quote for this: "Direct steerers are the flat earthers of the motorcycle world."
Pushing down on the outside peg really does nothing much. Well, it feels good 😉 What it does do is anchor you to the bike so your counter steering is more effective. You can achieve the same by gripping the tank and locking your heels into the bike.
Never heard of pushing into pegs before this video. Looking forward to try. But I did notice a huge difference if I use my knees to grip a tank and try to use knees to lean a bike through tank. The bike turns significantly easier and smoother. At least that's how it feels.
From your message I guess that it's not that I'm actually making a lean easier with my knees on tank, but that probably I can follow the bike better when I start to turn, thus giving this impression of better handling and easier leaning.
Very useful indeed. Thank you for the counter steering illustrations
I’m glad to see my associate got a first with you the other week John. I taught him well
Mr Pugwash, i just subscribed, if your on here that's good enough for me.
@@MrWhothefoxthat I came across John because he was marked down to be my associates examiner.
I don’t necessarily agree with everything John says.
For a start there is a distinct difference between driving a car and riding a bike that the ipsga rule of thumb doesn’t completely apply.
But only a biker that has ridden for years will understand compared to an examiner for cars transferring his skills to the bike clearly doesn’t
🤣 ... 🪰 SPLAT! 1 on the camera and hundreds on the visor 😳 ... it's that time of year again! Started watching your videos a couple of months back in preparation for buying my 1st bike in 40 years. No formal training EVER so I went to a Monday 1to1 'Return to Riding' course. The following Saturday I started ROSPA Advanced Rider Training with Advanced Riders North Yorkshire (ARNY) and on selected social rides they organise -some start an hour away and end up 2 hours from home🙄 . 6 weeks on, with a 10 day Covid break, I'm loving the daily bike rides can't wait to get up to practice slow steering manoeuvres around a deserted supermarket car park and have clocked up over 2500 miles. 67, retired and enjoying every minute.
Loving the instructive videos and keep rewatching to milk every ounce of advice I can. Thank you Mr. Local! 😊
Thanks for making these videos,excellent explanation of counter steering 👍
New to this channel. First video I've watched as TH-cam recommended it.
Good tips, will be pointing associates this way, maybe.
Brilliant video mate thank you..
Target fixation is probably the number 1 cause of avoidable accidents.
I do find it slightly odd (but not surprising) that most advanced riding organisations frown upon the use of body positioning other than described within the video, as you rightly say, more use of body positioning allows less angle of lean for the same cornering speed. I suppose the theory is that by using a neutral (mostly) body position reduces the speed and therefore risk whilst cornering.
Personally, I think an amount of body positioning is helpful, but not to the extent used on track whilst road riding.
Thanks for another informative video :)
Thanks another cracking video
another excellent video
Possibly time to re-visit filtering?
Another brilliant and highly informative video. I learn so much from them - thank you.
Thanks
I think target fixation accounts for many a hammer strike on thumbs!
50p steering is because the corner is unknown and, and there might be crap n the road. I bet you'd do 50p on 32nd and 33rd.... whilst I don't disagree with your discussion... experience is worth a thousand words. Counter steering and trail braking are but 2 skills that experienced riders have learned. Riding is an art, not a science.
It's a myth that it's possible to turn the bike without counter steering first. This myth has been busted multiple times by F9, MotiJistu, etc.
There's simply no way to turn the bike without counter steering. Even if you going only 6mph or whatever speed, you must counter steer to initiate a turn.
If anyone was ever capable to not counter steer and make a turn, we would have those videos on TH-cam already. So far no one succeeded
P.S. a stolen quote for this: "Direct steerers are the flat earthers of the motorcycle world."
What is the point of complicating the natural art of steering? i feel for the inexperienced bikers who will be outfaced by this!