Jeep Renegade 4xe PHEV - Why Not? Seriously!
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- The Jeep Renegade 4xe is a Plug in Hybrid (PHEV) that can also go off-road, as opposed to most SUVs that struggle going up a pavement. So this for me makes sense if you want an SUV, as this actually is one!
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Good honest review. I actually owned very similar 2021 4xe S-version (240Hp) for 4 months now and I can agree with this review. The best part is that it does what it promises and does it in a fun and surprising way. It's a great feeling to not have to think about where you can go with your car. The Renegade performs well in snow as well. We've had a terrible icy snowy winter this year and steep inclines in 30+cm of untracked snow was no obstacle at all - even with the Mrs on the wheel! The worst issues that I've had so far are: android audio connectivity some times malfunctions which is really a bummer when you're listening to some audio streaming while driving, and secondly the rear window/parking camera gets dirty really easily due to the car's form factor in poor weather. With these two being pretty much the only drawbacks so far I'm really happy with the car. That being said when choosing an electric car the decision is not so simple since the correct choice will vary depending on personal driving habits. For my commuting the PHEV is really good fit - especially with these fuel prices!
You and Harry is literally the perfect dream duo. Love your innuendos you sneak in 🤣🤣
That end skit cracked me up.
Very Police Squad... I kept waiting for Harry to try to escape! 🤣
I've had one for 21 months now. I really love it: it does the off-road thing and costs next to nothing for my daily commute.
Interestingly, when I bought mine, Jeep were claiming a 32 mile range in electric mode. What I've found is that in Winter it's more like 20 miles, but in Summer I can get nearly 30 miles out of the batteries. That's chemistry for you.
Please include Harry in as many videos as you can. You and he make a great team.
Who was the plonk who said anything bad about Harry. We love Harry in your vids keep him in as many as you can. Would love you both doing the NC500 again in future with a different EV. Thanks for Harry being in your vids and love both of you, a great team.
Great video guys. Really helpful and very amusing as well.
Wondering what the Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV will be like as it’s based upon this Jeep. That is if the Tonale ever sees the light of day !!!
Maybe it’ll get the seats you need 😉🤞🏻😂
Both on my short list now alongside the MINI Countryman PHEV.
Defiling Penistone Hill! Bloody hell, you two!
A few mates and I might have done that back in the day using snow too.
I hope you didn't terrorise the good people of Oxenhope too much though. Only the finest people there. 😉
It's still a bit better than the joys of Scunthorpe...👀
“Flared wheel arches either side ...” Oh, good, I’d hate it if it only had a flared arch on just one ... 😜
Love a good carry on film . Great review gents
16:35 to 16:55 creased me! Sooo true. It happens frequently. Thanks for the humour.
Loved my 2016 desert hawk, I can’t wait for the US to get this version
Alternative PHEVs are thin on the ground at that price, more expensive and able to tow would be the Discovery Sport PHEV and Range Rover Evoque. Hopefully JLR might allow you a week or two in the New Land Rover Defender P400e PHEV if it ever comes to fruition.......... I gave up waiting for the one I ordered after 3 cancelations by LR and bought a diesel one..........
Slap from EVW for the rear entry access fixation! :-D
Any chance of doing a review on the maxus deliver 9? I’ve already bought a leaf after watching your channel and now seriously thinking of changing my Van... thanks
Love the vid, keep it up lads!
Had SUVs most of my driving life due to the fact I struggle getting into cars. Where as an suv you slide your bum in and not down an In. I am currently seeking a Mercedes GLE500E. That’s the plug in you should test drive 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video. Someone who gets this particular 'family' - no doubt there will be the usual badge snobs - oh it's a Fiat comment - yawn. Did you miss the 'easter eggs' dotted around the car? You're right about the knobs (so you can wear gloves in winter) but there are volume controls etc behind the steering wheel - I use those mostly on my Jeep Compass. The Uconnect head unit is pretty quick as you showed. It can be changed by the user easily eg in winter I have heated steering wheel on the display - I'll change it for Tunein next week.
Best love story since Twilight. EV Man and Harry are a beautiful couple and I wish them all the best for the future.
Don’t forget the Countryman PHEV. Yes, I know it’s not really an off roader but it is 4x4 ( sort of). But it’s probably similar to the Jeep in everything else. Real EV only range around 20 miles and combined mpg around 90. About the same boot space.Tbh it’s probably just as long and wide......... jack up the Countryman Phev by 18 inches and they’d be the same thing!
Did you see Dale Vince on Fully Charged talking about how they’re upgrading all their slow ass chargers over the next few months?? Thoughts??
In my opinion, PHEV should have at least 75 km EV range, preferably more than 100 km.
Norway have some registration tax benefits for PHEV.
They need at least 50 km EV range for max benefits.
This was suggested increased to 75 km for 2021 budget, but didn't stay to the final agreement.
In general I am opposing hybrids, but especially none plugins.
But I appreciate that pure EV, isn't a viable alternative for everyone, and a PHEV can be a better alternative to replace ICE, for some.
With constantly increasing number of charging options, I believe PHEV will eventually be replaced by pure EV.
Very useful 👍
Saw the new Defender PHEV prototype in Oxford yesterday...... more coming
Take the cargo cover off if you want more cargo height in the back.
Vicious comment about Harry? You make a fine team!!!
just watched your video and have a few questions. Range of 20 miles ev seems low compared to other test drivers. Where you driving the nuts off it and if driven sedately do you think 26 to 30 miles possible. What ratio of electric to petrol miles did you do to obtain the 88mpg. How deep was the spare wheel well , would there be room for an lpg tank. with a flat battery what do you think think the mpg would be.
Not sure that LPG is good idea for this motor
I’m sorry, bu I don’t buy the argument that PHEVs are a good alternative for those that can’t charge a BEV at home.
PHEVs need a daily charge, so if you can’t charge a BEV at home you can’t charge a PHEV either. Otherwise they are nothing but heavy self-charging hybrids.
But in any mode you drive them, they for most of us much better than the diesel or the non-hybrid petrol version, and they even have some advantages to a BEV.
And that orange, is great 😜
A PHEV is for people who have unreliable charging, not no charging at all.
Someone who has access to a charger but not guaranteed.
Does the renegade use a heat pump the same as EVs? How does the battery efficiency compare to the Mitsubishi Outlander phev & Mini countryman phev?
it has terrible efficiency. You'd struggle to get 20 miles. Driving in EV mode it is rear wheel drive ONLY. in hybrid the regen is terrible. It will start the engine to power the AC, unlikely it uses a heatpump OR it is not connected to the battery.
@@XLoaferY thanks for the feedback.
I was surprised at how all round competent it was. The BEV should be worth waiting for!
I drove this car for a few months. it is awful. It is literally the worst car I've driven for any length of time.
Battery would discharge, electric range is awful. Build quality is terrible, infotainment system is awful.
I would not recommend this car for anyone and I can't respect anyone that does.
@@XLoaferY Maybe a longer test derive would highlight any flaws.
@@XLoaferY was the car bad or are you the worst driver in the world?
Bashing is easy. But we don't recognize any of you're points in our 4xe
With getting the 88mpg how many miles are you doing on your average drive ?
20-40 in a day.
Be interested how it compared to the phev Rav4 when it gets to the UK
The RAV4 is in the Compass 4xe range not the Renegade
just brought one will let you know.
I am STILL watching !!!!
14:14 - bit late but, Discovery Sport?
Hi everyone, what about evoque or discovery sport?
Not in the £30-£40k price point.
@@ElectricVehicleMan I accept your point of view. Thanks for the clarification.
For a German the number plate fits perfectly to that car, as GAU stands for “maximum credible accident”. 🤪
Can it be 4x4 in electric only mode?
No. Electric does 2, petrol does the other 2.
it can't even do heat in electric mode....
From what I understand, the electric drives the rear axle/wheels, the petrol engine drives the front wheels. So in full electric, you have a rear drive only vehicle, and in full gas mode, you have a front wheel drive. In 4x4 you are running in combined mode of gas and electric, which is how the torque is increased for off roading.
Cheers
This needs to be brought to the US
Jeep Wrangler 4XE, Jeep Compass 4XE are proper off roaders… so yeah, they’ve got the market
What no panoramic sunroof? 😉
A great video as ever, but an SUV, either lugging an unnecessary battery or an unnecessary ICE engine depending on your point of view. I’ll pass thanks. Oh, and it’s a dear Dacia Duster, but I won’t hold that against it.....😁
Why not? It's a Jeep. That was easy 😂
Take my money now.
Oh wait, I live in Australia, the one country that would benefit from a car like this, and it's not available (and probably never will be).
An SUV doesn't have to have 4x4, I don't know where people get that idea from. Sports. Utility. Vehicle. Now, it's arguable that Sports shouldn't be in the name given the asthmatic performance of most of these vehicles, but my wive loves her 2wd SUV for it's high seating position and ease of manoeuvring. 4wd has nothing to do with it. What do you suggest we all call a 2wd SUV, if it's identical to a 4wd version of the same vehicle?
So that would make an estate a sports utility vehicle.
Surely it needs 4WD to enable this ‘utility’.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Hey, it's not a perfect world. The estate car already has a name. I was just pointing out the fallacy of calling it an SUV only if it has 4x4.
The press give this a slating especially the engine being annoying as it revs in very noisy fashion. What is your opinion on This. This could be my next car I am not a boy racer. Final question 60 bhp doesn't sound a lot so how is it in electric only. I have watched dozens of TH-cam reviews on the Trailhawk and yours is the best by a mile. Thanks
It’s noisy compared to the quiet EV mode and the gearbox is as thick as they usually are but driven sedately it wouldn’t bother me.
It’s definitely not quiet when the engine is running but not intrusive.
I wouldn’t expect smooth and refined from a Jeep though, nor expect it.
EV mode is fine, just not ‘zippy’.
@@ElectricVehicleMan looks like a test drive is in order then. I love diesels but looks like they will be extinct soon.
I have the petrol only Jeep Compass. The only time it revs is if the engines very cold but it settles down after about a mile. Mines the 9speed ZF auto - I can't say it's ever missed a beat but then again these are not sports cars. It's surprisingly good at motorway speeds and you sit up nice and high. You should take one for a test drive and you might be surprised as I was. I was not keen on the manual box particularly with the stop/start but that can always be turn off.
@@nigelrowe2204 the Renegade is a completely different vehicle. Built by fiat in Italy.
@@XLoaferY the Renegade and compass and 500X are all the same and built in melfi italy.
So you don't mind this because its a proper 4x4 that can go off road? fair enough, thats like not minding a proper hypercar because its actually fast.
I start quibbling when you start comparing either to the ford focus though.
If you're comparing the boot space of a Zonda, you're doing it wrong.
I compared its physical size to a car people will know, not the car itself.
Where was the comparison?
@@ElectricVehicleMan you compared length, width and, ahem, 'boot' size.
I was being more tongue in cheek then perhaps came across. I'm like you I don't mind 4x4s used by farmers and such, they're a bit silly on the school run.
You didn't really test it as an off road proposition, but then we both know most of them aren't going to be dealing with anything more taxing than a particularly large pothole.
@@benholroyd5221 My Jeep was great this winter when I needed to get to work with heavy snow on our rural roads. It's not something I need all year round (the car switches automatically to 4x4 if it detects wheel slip. Jeep claim it can deliver 100% power to one wheel although I've never detected it - thankfully.
@@nigelrowe2204 not knowing where you're based, but in UK winters, winter tyres would generally be a better bet than a 4x4.
@@benholroyd5221 the tyres of the Renegade Trailhawk 4xe are standard tires rated for winter.
What no Black *gloss trim* ??? Have Jeep been watching your videos ??? Also what was the 'orrible comment about Harry ???
Second hand these are a good buy, but a bit tasty new for Yorkshire Folk 😂😂😂
On your comment that not everyone can go electric..... anyone who buys this car and doesn't have off street parking is being ridiculous.
Doesn't Volvo produce plug in hybrid 4x4? The Munro EV from ATAE in Glasgow could be the first full electric 4x4 to hit the market in this part of the world.
Volvo isn’t a proper off-roader.
@@ElectricVehicleMan That's true. How about Land Rover? I believe the new Defender and Discovery are both available as PHEV? I may be wrong, possibly not available yet.
Twice the price.
@@tipperarymick5337 the new Defender phev is the same size as the Wrangler 4xe
@@1063996 Yes, possibly bigger even.
I'll just mention the euroncap results for this especially as you've been talking about the family aspects of this car, only 3 stars !
I am surprised it got that high last year car got almost zero stars
From looking at the NCAP report - it was originally 5* but does not explain why now 3*. The 3* version listed does not include automous braking and is marked a bit lower for pedestrian safety - which is not surprising considering its boxy shape. This version will have AEB.
Euro ncap has almost disappeared up its own arse and become meaningless. Read the article in this week's auto express, barely any difference between Dacia & VW scores, 1 gets 3 stars the other 5 through various 'weighted' markings. Whatever that means (feeding of the back pocket??). You can guess who got what.
@@stepheng8779 Also, tests became so strict that cars are designed just to past the test. Slightest deviation in real life conditions and those results go out of the window. I wouldn't be surprised if NCAPgate is coming.
Few years back I saw some report thrown around compiled by insurers association in Sweden (or some other Scandinavian country). They came to a conclusion that in real life collision while 80-90's cars are bad, today's cars give you the same chances as in cars made in 2005-2010 (ish). Basically, cars reached peak safety in 10-15 years ago and now it's all just marketing.
@@jur4x correct and there's an awful lot of back handers going on making sure certain brands are benefiting from that.
"Big SUV"....isn't the Renegade a compact crossover SUV? It's really pretty small (only 3" longer than a 2 door Wrangler).
Yea, and personally I interpret it as its strength. Sure you can get a bigger one, just go for Wrangler, but try to find a parking spot for it in the city :) Preference will differ on your location obviously but honestly I could not park a wider car in our office's parking hall.
@@samuliluostarinen511 That is why we take one of our smaller vehicles (Lexus GX 460 or Wrangler JLU) when we go into larger or more congested cities. My Ram 2500 is fine in most cities, but parking in Manhattan usually needs 7 days advance notice.
You said a lot like Paul Daniels...Ever thought about going into magic?
Cars that don't have all wheel drive are called crossovers ,they don't pretend to be off roaders . And you said it ,if you don't go off road what's the point of having all that extra weight to carry around ,that's why crossovers .This is an SUV but , I'm going to say it , It's a Fiat Panda 4x4 . And Americans still can't do decent interiors , it's all very cheap plastics and it's not a cheap car . As a rival for the Puma or Kamiq , it just doesn't cut the mustard In its category. And as to if there are any other plug in hybrid 4x4 s , I think you forgot the mitsubishi outlander ,the original PHEV .
We mentioned it several times in the video. 🤷♂️
@@ElectricVehicleMan yeah sorry , my bad I didn't see the end . Serves me right for not watching the whole video .
A panda 4x4 is way smaller. It is based on the same platform as the Fiat 500 X
I dont understand why it costs £12,000 more ??? 🤔🤔🤔
I mean 17 miles EV range its not that expensive on diesel on my diesel its around £1.90
26miles. It’s £4k more than the diesel when you pick the same spec.
@@ElectricVehicleMan £4k is around what
i spend in Fuel for the Duration of my 3 or 4 Years vehicle lease
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PHV's also need fuel
@@ElectricVehicleMan Great Review
and keep doing this great work , however in my personal Circumstances
this car makes no financial sense what so ever Jeep Renegade Limited
Comes with Electric heated Seats Heated Steering wheel and all the bells whistles including LED lights for 26K , to pay £6800 more in order to be able to claim to save on fuel for (17 Miles) its simply non sensical
@@niceboy60 That's correct financially but if cities get really tough the EV aspect will pay off. I previously ran a DS5 Hybrid4 with only four/five miles on EV only (it was a 2013 car) however I choose as I was not polluting town and city on my commute. If I bought a diesel only it would have been cheaper to buy and even more fuel efficient. That's where EVs are improving now with better batteries etc.
@@nigelrowe2204 EVs can save you money if are undecided between a BMW M4 and something like Tesla performance Model 3 if you have a Home Charger
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However if you Are planning to buy a Family Car such as Nissan Quashcai for around 18k there's simply no EV alternative and does not make sense to pay£ 12,000 more in order to Bragg about saving Fuel while diving a small Zoe, in Reality Small Hatchbacks were never that expensive
Hemi Orange. Not Pumpkinhead orange.
Omaha Orange I believe.
PHEVs & BEVs, lots of options from JLR now. Highly capable, I wish more people would get a chance to try them. RR, RRS, Disco S, E & F& I Pace, Defender, Evoque Velar - all with better electric range than Jeep. Worth trying before you decide.
Double the price. Not comparable.
@@ElectricVehicleMan The Jaguar E Pace PHEV starts at £3k cheaper than the Jeep tested. It is based on the Evoque PHEV & Disco Sport PHEV which are £10k more. They have excellent off road pedigree, and more premium. So I think more comparible than you suggest, especially when the electric range and residuals are taken into account. I'm not trying to sell them, but I wish more people had a go in them before choosing.
JLR vehicles are physically bigger which not everyone wants. The appeal of the Renegade and Compass that I have is it can be pretty much parked anywhere because it's narrower than JLRs. Also depending on trim there's not much to add in the way of kit.
@@andypreece5915 the length and wide of a Renegade are smaller than a C segment car like the focus of golf. The JLR products are huge compared to the Renegade
@@andypreece5915 The Jaguar E-Pace PHEV is way over £40k and that's the cheapest model. OK it's got 300 PS but it's just about the most expensive entry point for that size of SUV.
3:38 You can always trust a man that likes to look at rear entry.
MG HS PHEV please EV man
It's orange!
its not Orange its Trump orange a colour that will help the car sell well. the sales will sour to the Trump name it will make people all over the world want it well 1 person any way
@@davidsworld5837 Thank goodness it's not Biden Grey, it wouldn't be able to climb stairs, the Sat Nav wouldn't know where it was and it would be called the Jeep Trunalimunumaprzure. The showrooms would be full of Jeeps with no customers.
@@davidsworld5837 Ffs let it go, he’s not in office anymore. Butthurt cry baby.
I'm sure other colours are available.
Better than being a lemon! :-)
Outlander has Chademo, I think. Don’t know the speed. Mitsubishi does know off road, so you’d need a serious test.
Have you watched the whole video?
I was being a bit previous. Sorry!
Is this is a Fiat underneath? I have a Ducato with an auto box and it’s definitely a bit slow to wake up.
So it charges at 6.6kwh but only has Type2 so no Rapid charging. So if you wanted to drive on full electric on your 50 mile journey your gonna be sitting for 1.75 hrs from empty to full for your ‘20’ miles range? Does it have a ptc heater or still use the 1.3l Petrol engine water heating system which means it’s always running when you need heat in winter.
@@The_Hero_Is_Back Not sure of this model in particular but other Jeeps have ZF auto boxes.
I do like the look of the Toyota RAV4 PHEV , but £50,000+ it’s just disgusting.
I really wanted one of these, but went for the Volvo xc40 phev. I regret my decision
Because it uses petrol....
I take it you mean other then the Cybertruck...erm, No.
The car that doesn’t exist you mean.
@@ElectricVehicleMan quite amusing really - hundreds of thousands of Fanbois literally wetting their pants after putting down their little deposit for this SPECTACULARLY ridiculous looking reject sci-fi b movie prop of a truck....!!
.. having no idea what and when and if they'll ever get something which will probably be nothing like the 'concept'!
...and which looks SO preposterously daft you'll probably be too embarrassed to be seen driving it!!
Can you imagine that in North Yorkshire...?!!
have we reduced ourselves to pen is jokes what is it you are watching too much of clarkson heheh
Is that as long as you could keep still for at the end you could have lasted longer
may be we should have a video rude saying or image counter on the video
Oh dear! - your English teacher must be spinning in their grave...
Spelling, grammar and punctuation - very useful in helping people to understand what you're trying to say...!
Thanks both. You two are a decent team. Being kind, as requested, but entirely subjective the car loses out on these points:
1) It's boring SUV. Time for more decent BEV estate cars. 2) It's a Frankencar. Nobody will want them in a few years' time. 3) It has two motive power systems which can fail. 4) You pay for purchase, maintenance and repair of both power systems. 5) You have to endure the roar and stench of tortured dinosaurs every time you accelerate hard.
On the plus side:
1) It's useful for people who don't feel brave enough/haven't the charging infrastructure to go full BEV. 2) It looks like fun. 3) It can genuinely handle off-road conditions (or the average U.K. urban road these days).
So on balance: ⅜ = 37.5% But it's only my assessment. 😁👍
Seriously now: It has its place, and it's well made, but it has a very limited future, as a vehicle type, in some major world markets. Fuel prices, taxes and legislation will kill probably them off within a decade. So these could be something of a last gasp for fossil-fuelled cars..
You'll like it until it goes horribly horribly wrong and requires it to go to the garage every other day!!!
Give us your evidence please. I've have my Jeep Compass (Renegade's big brother) and it's been faultless for nearly three years now. During the last heavy snow (I live not far from EVM) I passed the same abandoned Tesla by the roadside for two days.
@@nigelrowe2204 yeh renegade still based on fiat 500x platform! Trust me they go wrong!!! Constantly!!
5 year warranty. 🤷♂️
Yep and you will need it! Things to watch out for... Ambient temperature sensor is in passenger side door mirror and WILL fail. Radios are renowned for GPS/antenna issues and dodgy software. Boot release mechanisms often fail and random software glitches declaring a problem with the electromechanical handbrake.
@@willsbrewery3518 Fiat rated 2nd to last in JDPower 2019
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😂😂😂
...does this mean something here on Planet reality......?!
Why the F should I be kind? Your Scotsman aren't ye? I thought you could handle it. Anyway I was thinking it would be nice if he rated vehicles at the end of the video. Something like a thumbs up thumbs down or just AOK.
Scotsman!!!!! 🧐🤬
Yorkshire isn't in Scotland
If you buy it in trump orange , when it goes wrong will it deny that it’s all false Hee Hee 😂😂
almost 100% of PHEV end up being self-charging thus the main reason why they been moved from zero or low company tax
It has an engine? Really? But it’s tall. All forgiven. :) From the side it’s a Kia Soul. Lol
This jeep is a hideously ugly design, prefer my Outlander phev. It's 4x4 with an EV only mode which stops the engine cutting in when not wanted. I've done 3000 miles since November and only on my 3rd tank of fuel. Looking forward to the Rivian R1S coming out
They both have electric only mode.
Won’t be a Mitsubishi network soon either.
@@ElectricVehicleMan jeeps still fugly 🤣
Outlander PHEV was my stepping stone to BEV (etron). Fantastic car. Its 2021 though, buying a new car which has an ICE in it is silly. If you can afford a new car at this price get an EV.
@@Baldy444 I’ve driven both renegade (diesel auto and manual models) plus a hybrid outlander. Tbh the outlander is impressive on the road, it handles well and acceleration is rapid, not tried the renegade hybrid yet though. I agree the renegade isn’t the most attractive car but then again I wouldn’t want an outlander, same shape as everything else these days! I prefer old school boxy jeeps, wranglers, cherokees etc, but I’m seriously considering the hybrid renegade, because let’s be honest - your outlander’s off road ability probably can’t touch a trailhawk....
It's a fiat which worries me when it comes to reliability
Yes, a Jeep. Built alongside and from many of the same components as a Fiat 500X. Say no more.
Selling like hot cakes in Italy. I expected to see plenty of 500s in Rome but these at least 2-1. Both 500X and Jeep are great off road - if that's not for you fine but don't be so dismissive because of the badge.
@@nigelrowe2204 Fiat rated 2nd to last in JDPower 2019
Good review, but my opinion of this is that it's a plastic shit heap. Jeeps are garbage. They've got down hill big time.
Ugly inside and out ...the car
yeah but it's a Fiat... so... no thanks