I grew up at a time when all that was expected of women was to be a house wife or secretary. When I heard this song as a teenager it gave me hope. It made me realize that I had to do what I wanted. Guess what I did. I paid for my own schooling and became a cartographer. Thank you Pete you changed at least one life.
Linen Gray , I have only heard it in the past 3 to 4 years. When I was in 9 th grade , we had a choice of going to a vocational school for half a day. I decided I wanted to take electronics. I was turned down because I was a female. I was told I could business office or data processing. My mother thought I should be a secretary or a nurse.
This hits pretty hard in 2023. I can’t believe I’m only finding this now. Got my engineering degree in the 80’s. Had a so-so career taking a backseat to my husband, the house, then child, then single mom parenting after he left. I’m working hard to get my career even a little closer to what I originally dreamed of, so I can feel like I at least accomplished something before I die. Searched for the exact same phrase as the title of this song and it’s chillingly accurate.
Sadly this song is still spot on. I'm in IT and do a lot of trainings, a lot of the time I'm the only woman in the room and *gasp* I'm the one standing in front of the class.
Glad you are doing work you want to do. I am very pro equal opportunity. But, perhaps relatively few women wish to do your job. I hope u receive the proper wage.
@@zvipatent Exactly. If a woman wants to be in IT, she should be treated with respect. If a woman wants to be a homemaker, she should be treated with respect.
Hope it brought back some good moments. I remember seeing a very pretty girl singing along in the audience somewhere on the film. Looking at your face shape it might even have been you. It was of course at least 35 years ago. Write to > joe@joestead.com
Joe Stead Thank you. but i watched the film too, to see if i was on the film (and i am not!) I had long straight hair then (now its just shoulder length--and for a while i had the job title of engineer (i do not have a degree in engineering)--but i worked for Xerox and as a lead technical engineer (fixing copiers about the size of washingmachines --(there are 3 sizes of machines--small (table/desk top), Mid sized (stand alone machines about the size of washing machines --these are common in Kinko/staples/office depot copy centers) and Huge (commercial print shops). I was a many of Pete's concerts over the years, and last saw him at a Clearwater event (in Manhattan at the park with the little red light house. It was always a pleasure.
@@oftroy I saw him perform on the Clearwater at Woods Hole, maybe 1969 or 1970. We were wondering who these guys were creating a huge traffic jam in front of the Captain Kidd!
@@vadimastprojects8770 no it wouldnt. Buying into that weird ass anti-progress shit goes against everything seeger stood for, please rethink these things
I was raised by an Aunt who busted her ass working for the state of RI as head of employee nurse training for 36 years, and a grandmother who carried Victor electric through hard times. I've seen how smart, hard working and just how damn awesome women can be. I get so sick of being a guy and being associated with the male population sometimes. Even though i'm treated as a second class citizen (I'm gay), I'm still afforded a lot more rights than most women that's BS.EQUAL RIGHTS NOW!
Amazing song. I am/was an engineer and many of my co-workers were "ladies" and the world is a better place due to the increase in the number of intelligent people working. Wish the bet to all female engineers .. and their co-workers
i love these lyrics! especially these: "I only wish that I could be a lady I'd do the lovely things that a lady's s'posed to do I wouldn't even mind if only they would pay me Then I could be a person too."
This song is almost as chilling as this event: On December 6, 1989, Marc Lépine entered a mechanical engineering class at the École Polytechnique in Montreal, Quebec, Canada and ordered the women and men to opposite sides of the classroom. He separated nine women, instructing the men to leave. He stated that he was "fighting feminism" and opened fire. He shot at all nine women in the room, killing six. The shooter then moved through corridors, the cafeteria, and another classroom, targeting women for just under 20 minutes. He killed a further eight before turning the gun on himself.
I first heard this song in the late 1960s I think, sung by Pete on a CBC radio interview. Great song, never forgot it! Pete has always been my hero, and Peggy became my hero too after I heard this.
Saw' Peggy Seeger in Conversation' just yesterday in Abergavenny, Wales. Pete Seeger pops up today on my TH-cam. Big Brothers watching folks. Never had anything to do with any Seeger or MacColl. Now my media is full of them. She was great by the way! Well done Pete for singing one of her songs. Didn't know you did that. Great song. Powerful.
saw this on PBS, musta been in the 70's, been lookin' for this version EVER SINCE. couldn't even find it on here until a few days ago. Thanx for posting.
Chak Olate why? it's a common word, without any pejorative connotation. What would you rather have? Forgive my ignorance (or lack of experience/perspective or proficiency in english, for it isn't my native tongue) but i have haven't yet heard a more harmless term. I'm open to suggestions.
I used to listen to this song over and over again when I was 8 and 9. Somehow, I not only lost the album, but I forgot who it was who sang this till now. I searched years ago on the internet for "I want to be an engineer" but never found it till now. I guess I had to wait for the internet to get TH-cam! Still, I can't seem to find the album this came off of. Anyone know?
It was on a Pete Seeger album I used to play for my children, "Circles and Seasons". It also had the wonderful Garden Song, later done by Raffi; and Pete's greatest hit (to me!), Sour Cream!
I have something to say here................ Peter had some things to say about America. And said them most vibrantly. I don't know about any of you, I have not thought about these things in years now. I recorded Pete in his young years...........and he was rather strong in his statements, shall we say. Studio sessions with PPM AND MARY WERE A BIT OF AN ARGUMENT TO SAY THE BEST .
john larrabee Actually he was a folk singer, who wrote and sung many American folk songs (i.e. Skip to the Lou, This land is your land, and many more).
Alexander Remer He didn't actually write Skip to my Lou, but he did write fantastic songs certainly. Forget about John Larrabee his views don't really matter. Write to >joe@joestead.com
I stand corrected, my mistake. Be that as it may, you said he wasn't a folk singer. If I'm correct he sung many american folk tunes, therefore wouldn't he be a folk singer? Joe Stead I've seen his other posts, it's mainly just blasting people for no particular reason.
The Lion Sleeps Tonight is another song often attributed to Seeger's group, the Weavers. It was actually authored by African Solomon Linda, who died penniless while others reaped heap big royalties
For some reason this slaps hard when a brother is singing his sisters song. He puts the emphasis on different areas then when she sings it but it only makes both versions better. It's that weird Male tells the men what a woman has already said to them and they didn't hear it when she said it. But they listen when he repeats it and give him credit.
Unfortunately "... all that stuff is ..." far from "... gone." Work that has traditionally been done by women is still undervalued, and women's labor continues to earn far lower wages than their male counterparts. Women in the workplace continue to face the same patronizing attitudes depicted in this song. They also continue to face sexual harassment in the workplace, lack of public transportation to get to jobs, lack of affordable daycare for their children and lack of reasonable family leave policies. And if you are a woman of color or undocumented or non-binary then that long list of issues that you have to deal with on a daily basis just multiplies. Yes, some things might be a bit better today than they were in Peggy Seeger's day, but women's struggles in the workplace as well as society as a whole have never ceased. Those struggles continue to be waged by women on multiple fronts every day.
Truly shame, but NOT "forever". Surely things are better now. Henry Ford was a disgusting anti-Semite, but his children and grandchildren were/are good people. Fortunately things often change for the better. But, yes, shame on those who treated the female engineers poorly.
Peggy is still alive and living in the UK. The Seeger/MacColl dynasty continues down the generations, her grandson Jamie MacColl is guitarist with the band Bombay Bicycle Club.
I grew up at a time when all that was expected of women was to be a house wife or secretary. When I heard this song as a teenager it gave me hope. It made me realize that I had to do what I wanted.
Guess what I did. I paid for my own schooling and became a cartographer.
Thank you Pete you changed at least one life.
You mean Peggy..... thank you, Peggy.
Linen Gray , I have only heard it in the past 3 to 4 years. When I was in 9 th grade , we had a choice of going to a vocational school for half a day. I decided I wanted to take electronics. I was turned down because I was a female. I was told I could business office or data processing. My mother thought I should be a secretary or a nurse.
An activist until the end. A true working class hero. Rest in peace, Pete.
Ian Blades Proud socialist
Så sant hälsningar från Sweden.Fred till Ukraina ☮️❤️😍
Pete Seeger has done more for this country than a thousand CEO's and politicians. God, I hope we always have one like him.
@Anonim Kişi
No.
This hits pretty hard in 2023. I can’t believe I’m only finding this now. Got my engineering degree in the 80’s. Had a so-so career taking a backseat to my husband, the house, then child, then single mom parenting after he left. I’m working hard to get my career even a little closer to what I originally dreamed of, so I can feel like I at least accomplished something before I die. Searched for the exact same phrase as the title of this song and it’s chillingly accurate.
Just remember to fight patriarchy as an engineer
Thank you to all the wonderful women engineers who hold up half the sky.
-From an engineer man
Simply said, we are better off as a society for having Pete Seeger.
SOLIDARITY FOREVER
Sadly this song is still spot on. I'm in IT and do a lot of trainings, a lot of the time I'm the only woman in the room and *gasp* I'm the one standing in front of the class.
Glad you are doing work you want to do. I am very pro equal opportunity. But, perhaps relatively few women wish to do your job. I hope u receive the proper wage.
Good on you. Hope you kicked ass and took names.
bigger balls than half the dudes in there, if it helps.
@@zvipatent Exactly. If a woman wants to be in IT, she should be treated with respect. If a woman wants to be a homemaker, she should be treated with respect.
@@AlbertaRose94 Same as a man ... even he is White
I was at that concert.
Hope it brought back some good moments. I remember seeing a very pretty girl singing along in the audience somewhere on the film. Looking at your face shape it might even have been you. It was of course at least 35 years ago.
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Joe Stead Thank you. but i watched the film too, to see if i was on the film (and i am not!) I had long straight hair then (now its just shoulder length--and for a while i had the job title of engineer (i do not have a degree in engineering)--but i worked for Xerox and as a lead technical engineer (fixing copiers about the size of washingmachines --(there are 3 sizes of machines--small (table/desk top), Mid sized (stand alone machines about the size of washing machines --these are common in Kinko/staples/office depot copy centers) and Huge (commercial print shops). I was a many of Pete's concerts over the years, and last saw him at a Clearwater event (in Manhattan at the park with the little red light house. It was always a pleasure.
@Duston Call move on sucker
Duston Call stay mad, lmao
@@oftroy I saw him perform on the Clearwater at Woods Hole, maybe 1969 or 1970. We were wondering who these guys were creating a huge traffic jam in front of the Captain Kidd!
I hired the first woman engineer (Susan Karat) on the Wash DC Metro project in 1973 while at SA Healy Co.
The faces of the women as they listen to this are amazing - 3:52 is priceless.
The only man I've every heard sing this great song. Inspiring as ever Pete, and thanks to Joe for finding it.
If a man sang it now, it would be deemed "cultural (or sexual) appropriation" :)
@@vadimastprojects8770 no it wouldnt. Buying into that weird ass anti-progress shit goes against everything seeger stood for, please rethink these things
@@richardsmall5265 Surely, you have heard of sarcasm?
How the fuck this generation heard all this and went with capitalism.
I wouldn’t mind if only they would pay me, then I would be a person too.
I was raised by an Aunt who busted her ass working for the state of RI as head of employee nurse training for 36 years, and a grandmother who carried Victor electric through hard times. I've seen how smart, hard working and just how damn awesome women can be. I get so sick of being a guy and being associated with the male population sometimes. Even though i'm treated as a second class citizen (I'm gay), I'm still afforded a lot more rights than most women that's BS.EQUAL RIGHTS NOW!
I am very glad that in the "western" world, things have changed so much (for women and gays). - an engineer
Amazing song. I am/was an engineer and many of my co-workers were "ladies" and the world is a better place due to the increase in the number of intelligent people working. Wish the bet to all female engineers .. and their co-workers
This is Americana Folk Music at its very, very finest!
i love these lyrics! especially these:
"I only wish that I could be a lady
I'd do the lovely things that a lady's s'posed to do
I wouldn't even mind if only they would pay me
Then I could be a person too."
Yes. Peggy is still alive. We had her at our folk club only last year. You can write to >joe@joestead.com
This song is almost as chilling as this event: On December 6, 1989, Marc Lépine entered a mechanical engineering class at the École Polytechnique in Montreal, Quebec, Canada and ordered the women and men to opposite sides of the classroom. He separated nine women, instructing the men to leave. He stated that he was "fighting feminism" and opened fire. He shot at all nine women in the room, killing six. The shooter then moved through corridors, the cafeteria, and another classroom, targeting women for just under 20 minutes. He killed a further eight before turning the gun on himself.
The event you described is far more chilling than this song. :(
There is sing about what happened in Montreal, by the Tragically Hip, a Canadian band. lt is very beautiful and easy to find on TH-cam.
Never heard of him until today, glad I did.
This song will never die. Pete is one of a kind. Grew up in the 50's and this is so true. Hang in there girl, it's not too late.
This is real, true feminism. Equality for everybody!
We sure miss you, Pete!! There's work here to do!!
American hero, american socialist, american feminist!
I first heard this song in the late 1960s I think, sung by Pete on a CBC radio interview. Great song, never forgot it! Pete has always been my hero, and Peggy became my hero too after I heard this.
I remember Peggy Seeger singing this at the Philadelphia Folk Festival years ago.
Fabulous! What a lucky find! Thank you for posting! Happy International Women's Month!
Brilliant!
Thank GOD for Pete Seeger. All I need to say! Solidarity Forever, UFCW 653!
Saw' Peggy Seeger in Conversation' just yesterday in Abergavenny, Wales. Pete Seeger pops up today on my TH-cam. Big Brothers watching folks. Never had anything to do with any Seeger or MacColl. Now my media is full of them. She was great by the way! Well done Pete for singing one of her songs. Didn't know you did that. Great song. Powerful.
Thank you, Pete.
She might be a first class engineer, but she’s an even better songwriter!
Thank you, Pete. RIP
I have the balls to be a fucking proud male feminist!
I love his music, he's incredible.
妇女能顶半边天
What a great song! thanks for posting
How many have LIVED this song?
I love this song. RIP Pete.
RIP Pete, a beautiful song writer who made a difference x
its so calming
saw this on PBS, musta been in the 70's, been lookin' for this version EVER SINCE. couldn't even find it on here until a few days ago. Thanx for posting.
way to few gals in engineering at my uni! woman up, gals! we need more
How 'bout if we fight the institutionalized sexism that he sings about in the song, too?
where there is one it should be fought agianst, yeah.
It'd really help if you would stop calling us 'gals'.
Chak Olate I see your point; but what do you call men? Sometimes I call them 'chaps' sometimes 'fellas' sometimes 'twerps'
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Chak Olate why? it's a common word, without any pejorative connotation. What would you rather have? Forgive my ignorance (or lack of experience/perspective or proficiency in english, for it isn't my native tongue) but i have haven't yet heard a more harmless term. I'm open to suggestions.
I love this song! :)
Brilliant. True life.
I used to listen to this song over and over again when I was 8 and 9. Somehow, I not only lost the album, but I forgot who it was who sang this till now. I searched years ago on the internet for "I want to be an engineer" but never found it till now. I guess I had to wait for the internet to get TH-cam! Still, I can't seem to find the album this came off of. Anyone know?
It was on a Pete Seeger album I used to play for my children, "Circles and Seasons". It also had the wonderful Garden Song, later done by Raffi; and Pete's greatest hit (to me!), Sour Cream!
Wonderful.
I finally meet... the american Dubliner!
I have something to say here................
Peter had some things to say about America. And said them most vibrantly.
I don't know about any of you, I have not thought about these things in years now.
I recorded Pete in his young years...........and he was rather strong in his statements, shall we say. Studio sessions with PPM AND MARY WERE A BIT OF AN ARGUMENT TO SAY THE BEST .
Write to > joe@joestead.com
Pete Singer was not a real folk singer. Folk music is not about being a silly twit
john larrabee Actually he was a folk singer, who wrote and sung many American folk songs (i.e. Skip to the Lou, This land is your land, and many more).
Alexander Remer He didn't actually write Skip to my Lou, but he did write fantastic songs certainly. Forget about John Larrabee his views don't really matter.
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Alexander Remer He wrote neither song. Skip to My Lou is traditional, and This Land is Woody Guthrie
I stand corrected, my mistake. Be that as it may, you said he wasn't a folk singer. If I'm correct he sung many american folk tunes, therefore wouldn't he be a folk singer?
Joe Stead I've seen his other posts, it's mainly just blasting people for no particular reason.
Girl at 3:50 had some fire welling up in her for sure lmfao
Thanks Pete.
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The Lion Sleeps Tonight is another song often attributed to Seeger's group, the Weavers. It was actually authored by African Solomon Linda, who died penniless while others reaped heap big royalties
For some reason this slaps hard when a brother is singing his sisters song. He puts the emphasis on different areas then when she sings it but it only makes both versions better.
It's that weird Male tells the men what a woman has already said to them and they didn't hear it when she said it.
But they listen when he repeats it and give him credit.
Thank God all that stuff is gone. You can be a stay at home, or an engineer. What ever you want!
Unfortunately "... all that stuff is ..." far from "... gone." Work that has traditionally been done by women is still undervalued, and women's labor continues to earn far lower wages than their male counterparts. Women in the workplace continue to face the same patronizing attitudes depicted in this song. They also continue to face sexual harassment in the workplace, lack of public transportation to get to jobs, lack of affordable daycare for their children and lack of reasonable family leave policies. And if you are a woman of color or undocumented or non-binary then that long list of issues that you have to deal with on a daily basis just multiplies. Yes, some things might be a bit better today than they were in Peggy Seeger's day, but women's struggles in the workplace as well as society as a whole have never ceased. Those struggles continue to be waged by women on multiple fronts every day.
This is the story of my life.
bad ass!
I want to be an engineer :^)
One of the finest engineering company's in the world, ROLLS ROYCE treated their female engineers like 3rd class citizens. SHAME on their name forever!
Truly shame, but NOT "forever". Surely things are better now. Henry Ford was a disgusting anti-Semite, but his children and grandchildren were/are good people. Fortunately things often change for the better. But, yes, shame on those who treated the female engineers poorly.
I’ve only heard Peggy sing this
Yeah im an engineer
Where is "Well she's smart, for a woman. How'd she learn to get that way?" Peggy sang that.
Feminism FTW
If only more women heard this song.
lol
And men.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Married 20 years. My wife is both a lady and an engineer. Male engineers work for her.
So there. ( :
@NivekTF Loathing and repulsion.
koki coek
Describe this girl's true emotion at 3:50
You shouldn’t need to be working for pay to get treated with respect.
Is his sister Peggy still alive ?
RIP Pete
Peggy is still alive and living in the UK. The Seeger/MacColl dynasty continues down the generations, her grandson Jamie MacColl is guitarist with the band Bombay Bicycle Club.
NAPalm - you are right! BUT the one at 3:51 is even worse - she looks like she's about to turn into a werewolf. Geez!
So sad, Pete passed away.
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But so wonderful that he lived
Shout out to all the trans masc engineers.
Where the black people at??
you sound like a socalist...lol....:P
What an ugly crowd! Pretty little song though! I like it a lot, I heard it on the radio by Peggy Seeger, I wish I could find that video!
How could any one enjoy this crap? How could anyone call it music?
i found a troll! he's here! over here! everybody, come look!!!!