Can A Fiat Panda Cross Beat A Land Rover Defender?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ค. 2016
- For this week's #ThrowbackThursday, we're revisiting Tiff's trial of the Fiat Panda Cross.
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5:09 The defender's extra 700kilos of weight had been its downfall!
Also the instructor's extra 200kilos didn't help either...
hahahahahahaa
a bit overdone but so true
I died.
νικος γιώργος I'm still laughing at your masterpiece! Hahahahahah
That was mean lol
Saw old Panda 4x4 in Italy on top of Vulcan Vezuviu last week, they use it to deliver goods to shops and bars up there. This thing is unstoppable really. 👍🏻
the old Panda never will die 😂❤
The evolution of the Fiat Panda, one of the most basic cars ever built; and now one of the greatest off-roaders ever built, go Fiat Panda, fighting!
pfff... greatest hahah. good joke
I have a 2014 Panda 4x4 with the two cylinder engine. It works very good on ice and snow too, especially with spiked tyres. Preferes it to pickups and normal fourwheel cars. The low weigth is a huge advantage.
@@Wyl94 il Defender è rimasto impantanato nel fango e sta ancora aspettando che lo tirino fuori , ed hai anche il coraggio di parlare ?
evidentemente non hai dimestichezza con la fisica .
@@silvanbeppigno4050 eccolo il pandaro classico. ho dimestichezza con la meccanica, hai mai smontato un motore te? ecco zitto stai. La panda è solo un utilitaria di merda con mille mila scelte ingegneristiche alla cazzo di cane solo che chi non ha mai studiato un cazzo di meccanica la osanna a caso.
People who underestimate Panda 4x4 obviously never drove one in off-road
I have one. I'll never sell it.
People that have driven off road wouldn't want a little kiddy car, that thing would never make it in the back woods I have been in, not nearly enough ground clearance by far LOL.
It's not for the back woods, it's for snowbound roads in the Italian alps, where it really shines. Edit: or French th-cam.com/video/rUU9WWHPqC4/w-d-xo.html
@@stevecarter8810 you mean the first gen? Yes. This? 🤣
@@PatrickBaptist I have had one it lasted 15 years and it went just about anywhere just do not drive in ruts. I drive a landcruiser now but I can tell you my old Panda would really give it a run for its money.
I never hate on tiny off roaders like that - short wheelbase, lightweight, and traction abound. Put some good tires on that thing and it will be unstoppable. All the butthurt people complaining about the defender gives me great joy as well.
It still only has 6.3 in of ground clearance, that's really low for something that's supposed to be meant for offroad
It is meant for farmers and hunters driving Up step "rough" dirtroads. Works perfectly for it.
GO PANDA! One of the most unique cars...
I am driving an old Subaru Justy, even smaller, even lighter, even cheaper and even more suitable for cross-country work. If you can get your hands on a Subaru Justy, give it a try, it won't disappoint you, this sturdy, little piece of Japanese craftsmanship. According to ADAC it is one of the most reliable cars ever: www.welt.de/motor/article6266061/Der-Subaru-Justy-ist-zuverlaessiger-als-der-BMW-X3.html
@@ralfrufus6573 , panda is better !!!
@@carlomarini4255 When it comes to reliability, nothing beats a Subaru, trust me. I still drive my G3X, bought 3 years ago with almost 124 000 kilometers, now it has over 212 000 and still going strong. Repairs? Nothing at all! Beat this!
@@ralfrufus6573 watched the original panda 4x4 ... The best off-road car ever
@@carlomarini4255 yes, on the snow, it's a really good car !
Panda is not a car.It's the SacroGraal of the cars of all times.Respect
Here in Italy the Panda is very common, I have one then I got the 4X4 version, man...I love it!! go Panda go Fiat!
How old is the panda you own?
Last year I was in Italy and climbed Gavia Pass - I saw a LOT of old (1st and 2nd gen) Pandas, all with 4x4. "Genius lies in simplicity" :)
I had a Mk 2 Panda 4x4 with the 1000cc FIRE engine. I used it on construction sites. I also tow started Landrover 110s.
Man, that tiny Fiat is amazing!
Am I the only one that started watching 5th gear because we don't have Top Gear?
+iLiveOnFijiTime Nope.
+iLiveOnFijiTime Nope, same here. Also watching reruns of the good old top gear.
+1
This show isn't so bad. I was aware of it but never gave it a chance. Can't wait for the new show by the ultimate trio.
me too
Well, if you wanted to fight a Defender with a Panda, you should have used the Panda 4X4 1st gen. It was a real compact off-road, undestructible and reliable. If someone says that Fiats are unreliable, that's because he never had one.
Some Fiat's were terribly unreliable and rusted from day 1 . Once i was in Sicily and rented a second generation Panda and i immediately fell in love with one . Some 3 years ago i bought a second hand one which i sold a year later as i then got a company car . Fast forward to last June , had to change job , had no company car any more and bought another Panda . Both have been extremely reliable and the most great thing in all is that it's extremely fun to drive .
I don't think Land Rover fans would be very credible if they are to complain about Fiat reliability.
Its true. Our fiat panda never had any huge issues aside from coroded oil tank and exhaust (but you simply switch them to a non corrosion version and never have problems again).
But apart from that we never had problems. I see other cars having problems constantly, having to go to the garage all the time - but not our little panda. No problems for over 180.000km now.
@@CristalianaIvor Toyota is better
@@adampaula1863 which toyota 4x4 in this price range is better, can you tell?
Viva Panda 4x4 Viva Italia ♥️🇮🇹🇬🇷
E viva la bellissima Grecia... 🇬🇷🇮🇹
Vi racconto un aneddoto. Mio nonno era un cacciatore, aveva degli amici del nord che venivano ogni stagione in basilicata per cacciare nei nostri paesaggi. Avevano un defender e un terrano nuovi di zecca. Macchine da 50 milioni e passa di quei tempi. Un bel giorno si bloccarono in una palude con entrambi i fuoristrada, beh dovettero chiamare la forestale che si presentò con la vecchia panda 4x4. Tutti erano scettici, ma la panda tirò fuori i due fuoristrada dalla palude.l'anno dopo e tutti quelli che seguirono gli amici di mio nonno andarono a caccia con la panda 4x4. I super fuoristrada li lasciavano a casa.
We have one of these little gems (same colour) as we live in the high hills where snow is a common occurrence in winter. We've had it for a few years now, completely reliable, a lot of fun to drive, and in snow, completely competent. One thing not mentioned is the ride, it would shame much larger cars, it soaks up lumps and bumps. I would say though that sourcing the unique tyres is a little tricky and you do have to order them on the internet as most tyre places don't stock them. Other than that, it's a brilliant car, bags of character, very good equipment,and it really can go anywhere.
test the '90s 4x4 panda!!
Now THAT was a pocket off-road monster. I saw that old car climbing hills who put even Jeep Wranglers on their knees
The size is actually an advantage here. I have familly in the south of italy, and on lot of roads and in villages, a panda is the biggest car you can manage to get driving in ;)
You have to look at the targeted market, and even so, lot of people outside of this market love this car :D
Pandas will conquer the World.
Well at least they already conquered italy
I laughed at these types of videos and always used bigger offroaders.
Drove a friend's panda cross.... purchased one for my self now.
haha awesome little car wish they sold it in australia
Expert 4x4 trainer in the 90, the guy had no idea. you cannot go slow in a bog! The Panda 4x4 like the new Jimny is acracking little car!
Fiat is soooo coool. Wanted one since i saw them on paris-le cap.
I want one of those car washers It cleans the underside awesome :D would be great for working on cars.
Non provare mai a insultare la Panda perché tutto ti si ritorcerà contro
Cittadino di Vicoforte sempre sia lodata la Panda!!
Se poi è la prima serie... inavvicinabile!!
@@ILSANTA418 pis spanish again
Bellissimo il santuario di Vicoforte, ma infatti, non conta la altezza da terra, ma il peso, e la escursione delle sospensioni, panda batte la leggenda dei fuoristrada, anche sulla neve, col doppio del peso faceva figuracce..
@@lis756 what??
@@kristiansen2083 + Kg 0 + problems to doing off road..
The panda is such a good off road car yet people always underestimate it because of the brand
If the brand was a dutch at least of underestimating would have been gone even with the same quality. ;-)
don't forget about the fiat wrangler and the large fiat power wagon with a hemi
I could have done with that hill descent setting when I was struggling down a steep hill covered in snow and ice. My old doesn't even have ABS so definitely a little bottom puckering but managed it. Getting up the same hill the following day was fun as it is a steep climb.
Considering the cost, size, mileage and comfort, 🐼 Panda wins miles ahead of Range rover
You're just talking trash
We’ve had Landrovers for 10 years in our family and love them, but the Fiat did incredibly well! Low weight is definitely a bonus when offroading. It should be mentioned, that most defenders are modified and fitted with full locks all around if they go offroading frequently. The car in the video lacked these as could be seen by the two (or one?) tire fire, and this makes all the difference. Still, it’s great to see that big things also come in small packages. Both cars have their benefits, and unlike 90% of “suv’s” these days, the fiat proves some of them are actually off road worthy - even bone stock! Good job fiat!
"Greatest offroader ever, The Defender" The arrogance shines through ;)
That Defender wasn't stuck, it was "delayed".
Still, that Panda was pretty impressive.
Nice small crossover
a classic. panda beats defender since 1970
Shrek slave 41 aha ahah aha ahahahahahahaahahah compare land rover and fiat ahah ahhaahahahahahahahahahahahha
The Panda was set un production in 1980...
Google for Fiat Campagnola AR 76
Can you let us know the name of his company so we don't go there....?
Don Pablo it's called All Terrain Services
Don Pablo he wasn't a great offroader either
does anyone know whether when its in offroad mode the centre diff actually locks or is it like those haldex systems that use a clutch or something which overheats or is there a max speed limit you can have it in 4wd/offroad- mode
Well done Panda!!
I think I might have gone to Fifth Gear now that Top Gear has gone bell up.
+John Trout good choice john, top gear, although entertaining, can take it a bit far, clarkson carrying on like a rockstar / diva etc, i think its all gone to his head. fifth gear is good, tiff is the best driver out there in my view, he could beat clarkson whilst blinfolded i think. clarkson is ok driver, but not to tiff's level. check out some of the older episodes, and you will watch with a raised eyebrow tiff drifting $1m+ supercars at 100 mph with ease, really looking like he could be reading a newspaper while doing it it seems that easy. a really talented driver.
fith gear will be a good top gear substitute while amazon get together the new clarkson hammond and may show
James Strutt i cant say that i would enjoy top gear in its new incarnation as much as the fairly old versions, pre-blimp-sized-clarkson-ego days. these guys are all about the cash and stroking each other these days, and thats fine, everyone likes a reacharound, but i will stick to a car fact orientation type of car show, which is where fifth gear shines for me.
+ozzycarnut Agreed - Clarkson, whilst amusing, is an entertainer who can drive but I'd put money on Tiff or VBH (especially Tiff)
paul treneary absolutely, tiff is a boss behind the wheel, his driving skills are poetry in motion. clarkson and co. are ok drivers, but tiff is next level. sabine (the blond german chick) is also very good.
Go panda panda #teampanda
Unica e inimitabile. Fiat Panda 4x4... The Legend
We all know what desiigner is about to be driving😂
Panda panda panda
Peter 2oo1 Welp the name atleast suits the look, it looks cute atleast to me
I thought extra 700kg of Driver would do badly as well.
I remember years ago reading an article, possibly in Custom Car magazine, on a factory 4x4 transit van. They may still make them, I'm not sure. They were going along a green lane and a farmer exclaimed that they should turn back as the track got quite steep and rough and they don't even take their Land Rover up. Apparently it was a nice view up the top! Sometimes even the best has an off day! Dare I say this incarnation of the Panda looks ok and a great fun car to drive!
I drive a Defender but have to say that little Panda 4x4 looks great, and most likely makes a better on road vehicle, much cheaper to run as well, probably does twice the MPG
I still wouldn’t swap my Defender for one, but my missus might!
Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, short wheel-base version and with mud-terrain tyres, but then again, about twice the price!
When the defender got "stuck" the back wheels spun but the front didn't, did they expert forget to put diff lock on?
It's called television. Telly people will do what it takes to get a story, and they usually know what the story i is to be before the facts intervene
Well it’s definitely the best off-roader in its price range.
Bring it to USA
I need that car!
Love this Panda
The panda already won the competition before starting. When after turning the ignition switch, the engine should have started.
Excellentissime Panda depuis 30 ans.
Just give the panda bigger wheels and larger suspension plus a boxy military style body like a Suzuki samurai,it will become the favourite car of all soldiers
I like Panda!
where is this off road site ??
I expected the Panda to win. I like Defenders… and the defender will probably outlast the Panda, but light 4X4 vehicles get through almost anything, they just don’t sink in the mud.
Mine has 325.000 on the gauge, and is still going strong (on LPG).
panda panda panda panda. I got broads in Atlanta.
+shoryukenpower choosing to be in the phantom
+shoryukenpower white X6 looks like a panda
hope u killers understand
I was gone say that
Ma come parla questo? La panda va da per tutto anche con neve e ghiaccio!
Simone Girotto sono inglesi, pensano di fare le auto migliori e di avere la storia automobilistica migliore di tutti gli altri quando invece sono gli unici a non avere nessuno dei due
anzi quelli si fifth gear nonostante siano inglesi hanno elogiato la panda invece di elogiare il land rover, sono stati sportivi e onesti
Simone Girotto malto benne Grande panda
Alocin ma guarda che il defender va meglio della panda
Davide Latini beh oddio,di storia automobilistica ne hanno eccome, hanno fatto auto fantastiche
The defender has slicks at 5:09....
Note the way the defender aimed for the deeper wetter track?
Why doesn't Fiat sell the Panda in the USA I would totally by the Panda!!
Shawn Shawn it’s too hot for you
because nobody buys Fiats in the usa so they stopped selling them
@@Anthik sad but so true
There's an equivalent version of the Fiat Panda 4×4 and its called Jeep Renegade. USA gets this.
Come on come on panda
make a review on the new punto evo
Very nice video. It clearly shows the benefits of Fiat Panda. By the way, i own the CNG version, and i'm very satisfied. If only the 4x4 version was available with CNG. I would trade with mine, at once.
Why was the Defender going so slowly when entering the mud bog? This was staged to end like this.
If it was Jeremy Clarkson driving he would use "The Power" and make it just because of speed😂😂
Also notice the road tyres?
any actual defender driver would have just put transfer locks in and just driven straight out
@Schwanzus Longus also the panda has got traction controllers !
@@ljgarrison6910 On the Panda? Yes, they were road tyres...
its the brand that makes $$$
Did you do this again?
the panda did really well and i was impressed with its performance. that said, i am a defender 110 owner and have done a lot of off roading. i was very surprised to see the landie stuck there as i have been through much worse, as have most off roaders. the tyre types / pressures may have been an issue, or it may simply have been too little momentum approaching the boggy bit.
i certainly wouldnt judge either vehicles relative performance from that snippet of film, other than as i said being pleasantly surprised with the panda, but also bare in mind the landie is designed to hoof round heavy loads in those conditions all day, every day... stuff the panda simply couldnt do.
there is a very good reason why the defender design dates back to 1948, it works and its simple to modify and work on... two issues that pose a problem for a car mfr looking to sell replacement vehicles every few years.
A panda will bring you anywhere. Ask italian granpas and farmers 😄
i see a lot of ignorance in the comments, the panda
4x4 was never ment to be an extreme off roading car, it's designed to move easily around the italian countryside, the defender is only an suv wich english people define the best off roading car in the world just because of their patriocticism
Davide Latini Holy words
Totally agree
Agreed !
Exactly.
I'm British and the defender is the best offroader
+Fifth Gear You'd make a #TBT with an old 4x4 Panda141 showing how good is on snow! Ahaha
BRING TIFF BACK with a FULL APOLOGY, FIFTH GEAR!
Also the defender was being driven through the deeper slush!
The panda couldn't though as there was a defender in the way
Nessun fuoristrada puo battere la panda
W la panda 🐼 cross 4x4 è imbattibile,è inarrestabile è leggera,agile, e 4x4
Brilliant. I didnt expect that
3:50 "The big dog won" because the driver decided to get fancy and tried to go up a slope that he simply drove around in the defender. Honestly looked like a set-up, and even then, he would have probably crested the slope fine with a bit of throttle control, instead of flooring it as he was losing grip.
Nice car Panda 10+
Gotta wonder why FIAT doesn't sell the Panda Cross in the U.S. We get the 500 and the 124 Spider. And FIAT pretty much owns Chrysler.
+kd1s americans won't buy it, because it is too small for what the american customer is used to.
+TheZoidberg I get to differ. Need I mention the old Suzuki 4x4, and a number of smaller 4x4's that sold here in the U.S.
+kd1s
Americans would never go for a little euro Liberal like the Panda. The reason small cars are popular in Europe is because governments tax the hell out of European cars.
A Jeep Renegade costs about 18,000 dollars.
A renegade in slovenia starts from 24 000€, that being 29 000 $
kd1s Because Sergio Minchionne is an idiot.He ruined Lancia
do you think is a good idea to elevate the suspension of the Panda?
Might sound like a weird question but does the plastics on the car what the word panda etched into it?
Great panda Cross!!!
Micro Venom car!!!!!
Also, poor line choice lmao! You can see the difference in the depth of the ruts and wetness.
Land Rover Defender is the ultimate champion..
Thats the music from motorsport manager
where is the off road in this video?
+iw1gfv are they on a road?!?! then they must be off... no?!?!
+Vizcaio
These roads are very smooth and well prepared.
In the real world off roading, you can found deep grooves when the Panda hit the ground, when a veichle with higher clearance from ground can proceed correctly.
The Panda front bumper is very fragile, in this well prepared track, it never touch the ground.
offroad is such a broad concept....!!! ground clearance is just part of the equation....
Watched it twice ......still can't see any tarmac ,might have to go to spec savers !
The part where the Panda drives around the Defender
Fifth gear now sponsored by Fiat
+Vinsu Karma not the point I was making, but If your trying to say any Suzuki is a better off roader than a defender then you really have limited knowledge of the 4x4 world.
+Vinsu Karma thanks for the reply
They also showed how good a car the Dacia Duster was too, proved correct on that one too,!
The Defender’s weight was its downfall? Or maybe because he drove straight into pre-driven deep, wet ruts and the Fiat went over fresh, untrodden ground...
Perhaps if the defender had similar tyres and didn't opt for the deeper muddy bit, it would have trounced the panda
Panda rulez XD
Land rovers a for men that like fixing things more than driving things 😂😂😂😂
@@sherpafan033 yes hairdresser that want to get there 😂😂😂
I love the original panda 4x4 and the new one but the defender is a legend and it's still being used as a bench mark, surely we can make stuff beat it now.
Defenders are one of those cars that everyone can like and even tho they wear you out you'll never care cos they are what they are and they are mega and yeah I'll defender
It should be launch in india ... Indians love offroading
Made in Italy.... non aggiungo altro
Meh, James May predicted all this years ago.
The old one with steyr puch tools was unbeatable
Should offer these systems on cars like the Tuscon etc and not just on demand all wheel drive.
Panda is the best!!!!!!!
So the defender gets stuck in the mud okay we can all see that. But the mud is near the centre of the hubs on the defender yet the mud the panda went through was just touching the bottom of the rim so not overly fair. Secondly they are using a much older generation defender without the traction control which acts as a locked differential. Thirdly the guy driving the defender trains people off-road? Well he clearly doesn't teach ground reading skills because he clearly put the defender in more difficult situations. If you want to see which one is best tie them together and see which one pulls the other one through the slippery stuff.
Check the video at 5:09. The Defender has road tyres, but was shown with all terrain tyres at the beginning of the 'race'
@@DefenderRocks good spot!
agree, the " off road " instructor doesnt impress in this at all. i guess the vast majority of his work comes from people who have never been off road and need a bit of a confidence boost and the basics of the hi / lo box and diff lock.
if you want to avoid the wheel spin, in an older land rover without traction control, before you get bogged down, low range first or second, depending on incline, very light pressure on the brake whilst still maintaining forward momentum (ie foot on gas and lightly brake together) stops the slipping wheel from stealing all the power.
it does take a bit of practice to get it right, but there isnt much that it wont get through, even on the standard tyres.
If you want better still, adjust the tyre pressures to the conditions and choose more suitable A/T or mud terrain tyres
Exactly what I meant ,most of the commenters no nothing about off-road,but are non car guy Eco bullock fans! Iam telling it as a fan of both race cars and off-road trucks!
I have driven my series 3 through deeper slushes without a diff lock and it didn't get stuck!
Mi è caduto il mito del deffender 😂
Hmm! ; ( at 4:52 it is easy to make out that the defender is moving over a much deeper slush,whereas the panda is moving over something which can be tackled easily by any 4x4 ! I'm saying this since I'm both a car enthusiast and an offroad driver ! I originate from the himalayas in a small himalayan town named darjeeling ,which was a colony of britishers during colonisation ! After the colonials gave up rulling ,still many britishers lived here as they owned many tea plantations and many of them even imported land rover series 3 and defenders in india ! Right now my uncle owns one of it ! and I own a land cruiser 70 series and a dodge viper ACR here in gothenberg sweden ! From my experience that only old school 4x4s with front and rear solid axles are considered to be the best ! And no way the panda can beat that big tough guy in offroad business since the land rover defender has more low end torque and a balanced weight so that it can get grip plus it can even sail over soft soil ! I had to spit out this comment because even as a car guy , I fell really sad that many old school offroaders are getting expired and are being replaced by crap crossovers ! So let us car guys unite with offroad enthusiast so that we can fight against crossover owners ! Since car guys hate crossovers ! Even many cool cars like the eclipse are now in the form opf a crossover ! And the original jeep cherokee Xj which was a real crossover back then during the 85s are now turning out to be crap crossovers ! Please support and forgive me about my english ! I can only speak in swedish ,currently !