Thanks for your reviews on these BBQ's. I recently bought the Napoleon Prestige 500 RSIB (Ambience Edition) upon watching your reviews and reading the comments from your viewers. Originally set on buying the Genesis CSE-335 (for the Canadian market only) black enamel version. The advantage for the Napoleon is its versatility in cooking. What swayed me to the Napoleon was the infrared sear station (stainless steel in the Ambience version), larger warming rack (again stainless steel in the Ambience version), infrared rotisserie burner with rotisserie included. The rotisserie spit (rod) is 6" off the grid. No need to remove grates. I like the hood design, easy to roll up, and the handle is not too high in the up position. The updated warranty is lifetime for hood, aluminum castings, SS cooking grids, SS burners, all else is 15 years. About the same price for both bbq's here in Canada. $1659 CAD for Napoleon Prestige Ambience, $1599 CAD for the Weber CSE-335 black enamel. Advantage for the Weber would be 9mm SS grates vs 7.5mm for the Napoleon, but I find the 7.5 mm grates to be sufficiently robust. The door handles on the Weber is steel, not plastic as on the Napoleon. The Weber also comes included with the iGrill3 for the CSE-335 model here in Canada. I was a little worried about the Napoleon in that the doors don't align properly as seen on some TH-cam videos, but that can be adjusted without too much difficulty. So far, very happy with this Napoleon. Better than I expected. Only time will tell if this Napoleon will hold up to the elements. Just a note: There is just no best BBQ for everyone, but just try to find the best BBQ for you. Happy grilling.....stay safe!!!
I love my genesis se 335 it cooks my steaks perfect holds heat even through michigan winter. im very happy for $1000 I spent on it and got it put together and delivered
Thanks for the awesome reviews. Coyote 30" S-Series on natural gas over here in Michigan, zero complaints! Heavy duty & cooks like a champ. The rotisserie keeps trying to steal the show. Couldn't be happier 👌🏻
17:45 test it with a magnet usually most are not 304 stainless steel and if it is then its only the top lid and everything else will be a very low grade stainless and mixed with polished steel and low grade steel hardware
I have a big joe, pit boss lockhart and a blackstone griddle. Im really thinking about adding one of those napoleon 500 grils with the light up knobs but would really like to see on in person. There are no dealers around me that carry them and ordering one and not being happy and wanting to return them seems like such a hassle
Great channel man. The bread test is brilliant. I was leaning towards Napoleon based on my own research and even what you showed in your other videos. But the almost-full-coverage heat on the Weber sold me. The one thing I hated all my life on my previous grills were those pieces of meat not cooking cause of those cold spots at the front, back. Seems like something I can put in the past with the Weber!
I'd be interested to see how low you can get. I never grill on high and just completed a 4-hour smoked (with smoker tube) spatchcocked chicken (3 chickens) cook on my Weber Genesis II E-325 (Ace Hardware exclusive) and was able to maintain a constant 225-275 degree grate temp throughout the cook. I'm guessing most of the others would be too hot with the burner setups. The Napoleons have double orifice rows on each burner, so more gas burning all the time. The others have even larger burners, so doubt they can get as low as Weber. My opinion is less is more with grill heat, particularly if you're interested in the versatility to be able to smoke on it. Great vid and thanks!
@@dank9288639 Yeah, since the date of that comment, I did get a vertical smoker and use that for all my low and slow smoking. Only use the Weber for standard grilling and searing now.
Decided to get the Coyote 28” for our second home, looks like a great bargain for a professional style all stainless grill. Thanks for the suggestion and first look at the brand.
Webers 2022 line up! Some serious attention to details and end user function. There is a good reason why they are always the #1 grill in most peoples back yard
Just bought the Napoleon Rogue 525 Special Edition (Black). It has this 15 year limited warranty that you mention, but I think all of the parts that really matter (the burners and searing plates) are of the same quality right? The parts that have the longest warranty (15 years) on my grill are the exterior parts. The hood, side tables etc. Anyway... this thing feels _solid_ as a rock man !
It might be that gas glow to the middle burner was blocked somehow. It looks like it’s on, but the flame is really small. This has happened to me. Then I turn off the gas and back on and it works. Sometimes have to re-attach then tank.
Thanks for your awesome Videos. Just bought a Napoleon Prestige 500 from the local distributor here in Singapore. Your videos helped me levitate towards this compared to a Weber Genesis😊🙌 seeing this grill in person. What a beauty
Do you think maybe you had a plugged orifice on the weber, seams really odd to have nothing if there was a actual flame? Have you every had issue with depth of the burner. I had a weber for 20 years, bought different bbq and burnt it on first use. We are looking at going back to the weber for a few reasons. 1. Depth of burners, deeper so less flare ups. 2. Wheels, we move our bbq around and the two large wheels are a huge bonus for that. 3. We actually like the tank on the outside with the level indicator as we live out of town and if it is low make sure we take it as to not run out. I do like the reviews and would like to try a Napoleon but am scared I may not like it. Thanks for the reviews
I wish that was the case. The Weber we used in this video was brand new and never used. Sounds like the Weber is the right move for you since no other grill has the propane level indicator. Thank so much for the support!!
Love your videos. I have been eyeing the Napolean Prestige 500. But with Napolean announcing the #PHANTOMRISING. That puts the phantom prestige 500 above the 1500 dollar mark. With the price increase of the Phantom edition would you buy it or get something else in that price range?
It will be tough to beat for sure. Napoleon has really gotten ahead of themselves though. As now they pushed back the date until august. Which summer will be almost over by then
@@embersliving That is good to know ... that will help me make a decisions. I do wish they would add lights on the phantom series of the prestige series. I will watch for your next series on the top 5 premium grills. Thanks for all you do.
Great video's Trevor....You need to expand your horizon to Canada though. We are not that bad up here my man, we are a friendly people "A"...Lol..I tried to purchase a Napoleon 665 Pro, but Danielle said no shipping to Canada, keep up the great work!!!
I’ve used stainless and cast iron grates Cast iron is great for a few years but always rusts.. I season the cast iron and reapply oil every cook and use a grill cover. Cast iron never lasts.. there’s also almost no difference in the grilling Cast iron is great indoors when you don’t have enough BTUs since you can heat soak it and keep it away from the elements. But outdoor grilling you have enough BTUs to not have to heat soak as compensation
Great Reviews. The question I have is WHY did they get away with the ceramic disk or rocks to even out the heat? I believe MHP has them, what are your thoughts of that grill?
Your video made me decide that this grill was the grill to get this summer. I was due for an upgrade from a charbroil that I have had for years. I can’t believe I was going to get a Weber at my local big box store. Yes, this grill was a lot more money, but the Napoleon brand really provides quality for what you pay for as opposed to some brands out there on the market. Again, can’t thank you enough as I love the grill.
Nice reviews, but please flip the bread the same way on each, it's clear to see the top/bottom of some is qute different, but when you flip top to bottom it's masking the difference! Thanks again though for your effort. Probably better to flip from left to right/right to left rather than front to back.
I have an old aussie 4 burner stainess / full cabinet plus side burner grill. Been great for 15 years or more. But I am ready for a bit more quality. Your 500 to 1500 range works for me. I think more 500 to 850 is where I am comfortable. Quality burners / strong construction and good hardware and wheels are my main focus. Easy to clean grease trap and stainless grate ...good thermometer is also on my watch list.
Awesome review - thank you. Was going to go Weber but you’ve convinced me to go for the Napoleon Prestige 500 with the infrared side burner! Looks like a great piece of kit. But $1500?! No no no!! It’s $2500+ here in the UK! Can you recommend a retail partner in the UK (assuming you don’t ship internationally) that can offer it for the $1500 price range?
@@embersliving yes very steep! Even Napoleon Rogue 525 SE is around $1800. I’m thinking that’s a better buy for the money - has the stainless steel grates & the infrared side burner like the prestige? Thoughts?
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf Yes I agree, I think Prestige 500 is best - I also like the Phantom too. BUT both are significantly above the budget I can justify for a gas BBQ. I am now looking at getting a Napoleon Lex 485 with RSIB. How about you? Going to push on & go with the Prestige? Looks great.
@@scholesiefirsttimecheers mate, yes going prestige 500. buy once, cry once scenario i think for me. also the infrared heater and the multiple burners can blast heat and probably make a decent pizza oven too. everything else looks like a compromise and the rotisierie which is free is about £150.... push them to throw in a few extras and it will probably meet most of the other things i am thinking of buying.
I work with grills as a living and I can tell you, those Napoleon hoods, burners, and flavorizing bars are much more inferior compared to the Coyote ones. I would've easily put the Coyote as #1. The quality of the steel used for the Coyote is top notch and flavorizing bars are great designs and quality. And yes, those burners are some of the best you can find. Much more efficient and reliable, burns evenly even after long time use, easily detachable for cleaning and repairing. All the components in the Coyote are very similar to expensive brands like Lynx and Vikings. The size is great also. Only being able to retract on one side for the Napoleon can get very annoying very fast and one little mistake of over burning will stain those "steels" forever.
Quick question...should I buy the prestige pro or wait for the phantom? Esthetics would be the sole reason for the phantom...not sure about "cast" stainless steel either.
You may want to read the warranty for the Napoleon. Lifetime for some things but there is a complex chart of how long different components are covered (unless the grill I just purchased came wit an old manual.
I love the Napoleon BBQ, recently I just sold my Napoleon LeX 703 which i have for around 10 years, it was as good as the day i got it, my only dislike about it was the lettering around the knobs rubbed off within a couple years but no other issues for 10 years and was hands down the best BBQ i every owned. I just purchased a new grill, not delivered yes, its the Napoleon Pro 665, I had no interest in other brands, only looked at the Napoleon because we were that happy with the LeX 703, I hope im just as happy with my Pro 665
@@embersliving I'm sure you double checked but that's really weird. Also I noticed that the knob was on 10. On my genesis the higher setting is on 9. That's why I assumed that it might be off. Thanks for the nice reviews!
Most fire codes include an exception for businesses to operate LP gasses for educational or demonstration purposes. Example is california with 6103.2.1.5.
i like BBQ'S but WTF its like most grill manufactures completely fail to under stand how food is made and use thin metals, most grills have hilariously uneven heat zones with metal plates to heat up and create even heat... how about you get the grill to actually function before you add 6 or 8 valves and still fail to have even heat, if i was to design a grill the fire would cook the food.. not a heated piece of metal... its like a very inefficient type of gas coil stove.. make a hydroformed rectangle burner to fit the whole area of the grill drill holes every square inch or more to cover the entire surface area with little flames and then make the burner raise and lower like a smoker, and then you got even heating
I have a napoleon prestige, it's alright. I wish I had saved a bit more and went up to another level of grills. Something about the cheap feeling handles bothers me! Also they packed damaged parts into my box, so at least I know the warranty/service department was alright. I literally had to wait a month until they were making another batch of napoleon prestiges to get my part made, but I got it eventually.
Yeah that's what we recommend a lot of the time, get the premium quality! Napoleon is typically pretty good about warranty issues! Glad they took care of you though!
@@embersliving Thanks for the videos. I am looking for my 1st Gasgrill and so you are now in my TH-cam recommendations. ;) I ordered the Napoleon P500 Phantom today. Partially also to your videos. Greetings from Germany.
I bought a prestige from you guys a year ago. It flairs up way worse than my old weber. Probably selling it and going back to weber. Kinda sad it performs so poorly with fatty meats
I had a weber for 20 years then bought a nice shiny Black & Decker. I burnt the heck out of it first use. I think the depth of the burners is a big factor. We are probably going back to a weber for this reason. I think this is likely your issue as well.
Your videos are excellent, but there's no way that weber center burner was performing properly. That deserved a full inspection and followup video. You can't just drop that in there and pretend it's how the grill works. And I don't even give a crap about Weber! I just don't want flawed conclusions from a faulty experiment, and this one is highly suspect (without examination and extra info)
Just call them, they tell you. The phantom is painted black and has a fancy badge. So compared to the dougie/prestige it's the same product, just a fancy paint that will eventually fade or peel off due to heat. That's why it's cheaper. Just buy a regular one and enjoy not burning yourself if your skin hits the hot black from being in the direct sun or excess heat from the color. Personally, I don't like weird things like skeletons or ghosts or horror movies; yeah my phantom is on the deck. No thanks..
Your videos are informative but please get some good lighting installed for your videos. Half the time I can't even see what you are referring to/talking about. I don't want to see shadows, I want to see the grill.
Want to know the difference between the Weber mentality and the Rogue mentality? The Weber door snap in place with 2 pins on each door. Quick and easy. Rogue uses a pile of cheap screws and some annoying brackets. The Rogue doors never line up as nicely as the Weber doors.
Which would you get: 1. Weber Genesis II S-335 with cover, iGrill3, and 4 meat probes for $900 2. Napoleon Prestige 500 with cover for $1300 When you compare a S-335 and Prestige 500 at normal price, the Prestige 500 is the clear winner, but I could save over $400 with the S-335 and that makes my decision much tougher.
@@embersliving I noticed a revised arrival date is now 2022. What happened? Very bummed. Was hoping to have it installed for this year's Parade of Homes (Sept/Oct 2021).
56 seconds into this video, which was titled the Best 5 Quality Gas Grills , you state you cannot make a "Top 5". WTF In Canada we make statements and stand by them. Why can't you do the same? Regards, Kevin Tischer
By the way, having the filthy grill at a grill store is gross. I clean my grill when I am done cleaning and clean the top and side tables till everything is perfect. And I have an aussie 400 dollar grill. But its a pride and food maker.. so it needs to stay clean. Clean your grill man.. its just pride in cooking on a grill.
I bought a Napolean prestige grill seems fine. Customer service is horrendous. Can you send me a phone number or email address that I can actually get through to have a conversation with a real person!!!
Thanks for your reviews on these BBQ's. I recently bought the Napoleon Prestige 500 RSIB (Ambience Edition) upon watching your reviews and reading the comments from your viewers. Originally set on buying the Genesis CSE-335 (for the Canadian market only) black enamel version. The advantage for the Napoleon is its versatility in cooking. What swayed me to the Napoleon was the infrared sear station (stainless steel in the Ambience version), larger warming rack (again stainless steel in the Ambience version), infrared rotisserie burner with rotisserie included. The rotisserie spit (rod) is 6" off the grid. No need to remove grates. I like the hood design, easy to roll up, and the handle is not too high in the up position. The updated warranty is lifetime for hood, aluminum castings, SS cooking grids, SS burners, all else is 15 years. About the same price for both bbq's here in Canada. $1659 CAD for Napoleon Prestige Ambience, $1599 CAD for the Weber CSE-335 black enamel. Advantage for the Weber would be 9mm SS grates vs 7.5mm for the Napoleon, but I find the 7.5 mm grates to be sufficiently robust. The door handles on the Weber is steel, not plastic as on the Napoleon. The Weber also comes included with the iGrill3 for the CSE-335 model here in Canada.
I was a little worried about the Napoleon in that the doors don't align properly as seen on some TH-cam videos, but that can be adjusted without too much difficulty. So far, very happy with this Napoleon. Better than I expected. Only time will tell if this Napoleon will hold up to the elements.
Just a note: There is just no best BBQ for everyone, but just try to find the best BBQ for you.
Happy grilling.....stay safe!!!
Yeah we agree with what you said. The Napoleon has more features for a little more money! Thanks for watching. We appreciate the support and feedback.
How's it holding up?
I love my genesis se 335 it cooks my steaks perfect holds heat even through michigan winter. im very happy for $1000 I spent on it and got it put together and delivered
Awesome!! We are glad you made the right purchase! Thanks for the support on the videos!
Where'd you purchase it at? I'm also in MI 🤣 Winters here suck which seems most of the year 🤪
@@shanew7361 i got mine from ace hardware on sale and they assembled it n delivered for free
@@smokedya420 Wow, good to know. I was looking at the one from Costco that's $999 in store. S-345
@@shanew7361 that's a good deal I think u meant s 435 which is 4 main burners n a sear zone and side burner. I think it used to be like $1100-1200
Thanks for the awesome reviews. Coyote 30" S-Series on natural gas over here in Michigan, zero complaints! Heavy duty & cooks like a champ. The rotisserie keeps trying to steal the show. Couldn't be happier 👌🏻
right on
Embers team really upping their review game. Thanks for the tips gents, leaning towards the Weber Genesis II - 335. Yup, I'm a fan-boy.
Right on!
@@embersliving
Hi do you have a any exabation in Europe/ agents.
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What's s good fireplace for basement. All I care is the look of the flame.
this is a grill video. Check out our video on Ortal fireplaces
17:45 test it with a magnet usually most are not 304 stainless steel and if it is then its only the top lid and everything else will be a very low grade stainless and mixed with polished steel and low grade steel hardware
We have started testing with magnets since this video. Thanks for watching!
Do you have a top 5 luxury sister brand? Such as Sedona, Hestan Aspire, Delta Heat, etc?
We have a video on the Hestan Aspire. We just got a Sedona for the showroom.
@@embersliving I can't find a single side by side video comparing these
@@johnb5915 we have our top 5 American made video. And that is all the budget American made stuff
@@embersliving perfect thank you....great videos...keep it up 👍
I know 2 years isn’t much for a grill but is this top 1 still the best option for a grill?
we have new updated version of this video th-cam.com/video/sJu0OnXCIlg/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for these in-depth review.
I have a big joe, pit boss lockhart and a blackstone griddle. Im really thinking about adding one of those napoleon 500 grils with the light up knobs but would really like to see on in person. There are no dealers around me that carry them and ordering one and not being happy and wanting to return them seems like such a hassle
oh shoot
Hi there will please add the brightness in your Stadio
we are working on that
Great channel man. The bread test is brilliant. I was leaning towards Napoleon based on my own research and even what you showed in your other videos. But the almost-full-coverage heat on the Weber sold me. The one thing I hated all my life on my previous grills were those pieces of meat not cooking cause of those cold spots at the front, back. Seems like something I can put in the past with the Weber!
Awesome, thank you!
i thought the middle of the weber was shit?
I'd be interested to see how low you can get. I never grill on high and just completed a 4-hour smoked (with smoker tube) spatchcocked chicken (3 chickens) cook on my Weber Genesis II E-325 (Ace Hardware exclusive) and was able to maintain a constant 225-275 degree grate temp throughout the cook. I'm guessing most of the others would be too hot with the burner setups. The Napoleons have double orifice rows on each burner, so more gas burning all the time. The others have even larger burners, so doubt they can get as low as Weber. My opinion is less is more with grill heat, particularly if you're interested in the versatility to be able to smoke on it.
Great vid and thanks!
thanks for watching
lol why don't you just get a pellet grill dude
@@dank9288639 Yeah, since the date of that comment, I did get a vertical smoker and use that for all my low and slow smoking. Only use the Weber for standard grilling and searing now.
Decided to get the Coyote 28” for our second home, looks like a great bargain for a professional style all stainless grill. Thanks for the suggestion and first look at the brand.
Great choice! Glad we could help you out!! Thank you for watching!
You made a great choice. The Coyote steel and components are up there with top brands like Lynx or Viking
Great video. Is this the video that made you drink?
Webers 2022 line up!
Some serious attention to details and end user function.
There is a good reason why they are always the #1 grill in most peoples back yard
We might get to it there will be a genesis video for sure
Does anybody have any experience or thoughts on the evedure ?
We used to have one on the shop and it worked great.
@@embersliving have they been discontinued or possibly a new model come out? I see a bunch of them are on sale at a lot of places
Is it mandatory to plug in the Coyote or is that just for the lighting? Thanks
just lights
Great video! How does stainless hold up outdoors in climates that flucuate beteeen hot/cold year around? North East essentially...
Great question! We recommend getting a grill cover for all grills. But it'll hold up well either way. Always better with a cover though.
Just bought the Napoleon Rogue 525 Special Edition (Black).
It has this 15 year limited warranty that you mention, but I think all of the parts that really matter (the burners and searing plates) are of the same quality right?
The parts that have the longest warranty (15 years) on my grill are the exterior parts. The hood, side tables etc.
Anyway... this thing feels _solid_ as a rock man !
I would say they are
It might be that gas glow to the middle burner was blocked somehow. It looks like it’s on, but the flame is really small. This has happened to me. Then I turn off the gas and back on and it works. Sometimes have to re-attach then tank.
hmm interesting
Thanks for your awesome Videos. Just bought a Napoleon Prestige 500 from the local distributor here in Singapore. Your videos helped me levitate towards this compared to a Weber Genesis😊🙌 seeing this grill in person. What a beauty
Thank you for watching! Glad we could help pick the product that's right for you! We hop you enjoy in Singapore!!
Do you think maybe you had a plugged orifice on the weber, seams really odd to have nothing if there was a actual flame?
Have you every had issue with depth of the burner. I had a weber for 20 years, bought different bbq and burnt it on first use. We are looking at going back to the weber for a few reasons. 1. Depth of burners, deeper so less flare ups. 2. Wheels, we move our bbq around and the two large wheels are a huge bonus for that. 3. We actually like the tank on the outside with the level indicator as we live out of town and if it is low make sure we take it as to not run out. I do like the reviews and would like to try a Napoleon but am scared I may not like it.
Thanks for the reviews
I wish that was the case. The Weber we used in this video was brand new and never used.
Sounds like the Weber is the right move for you since no other grill has the propane level indicator. Thank so much for the support!!
"Napoleon Complex warranty" LOL, I see what you did there! Great review video.
Thank you
Great content! What grill has the most sturdy side burner under $1000?
probably the genesis
@@embersliving Thank you!!!!
Where do the intro Blaze products in this price range fit? Does all stainless firebox hold heat as well as a cast aluminum tub?
it does a good job in the sense that the burners are higher BTU, but I wouldn't say it gets hotter then the Napoleon
Love your videos. I have been eyeing the Napolean Prestige 500. But with Napolean announcing the #PHANTOMRISING. That puts the phantom prestige 500 above the 1500 dollar mark. With the price increase of the Phantom edition would you buy it or get something else in that price range?
It will be tough to beat for sure. Napoleon has really gotten ahead of themselves though. As now they pushed back the date until august. Which summer will be almost over by then
@@embersliving That is good to know ... that will help me make a decisions. I do wish they would add lights on the phantom series of the prestige series. I will watch for your next series on the top 5 premium grills. Thanks for all you do.
Great video's Trevor....You need to expand your horizon to Canada though. We are not that bad up here my man, we are a friendly people "A"...Lol..I tried to purchase a Napoleon 665 Pro, but Danielle said no shipping to Canada, keep up the great work!!!
Ugh! We are so sorry we couldn't help you! Thank you nonetheless for still supporting the channel! We appreciate you!
I’ve used stainless and cast iron grates
Cast iron is great for a few years but always rusts.. I season the cast iron and reapply oil every cook and use a grill cover. Cast iron never lasts..
there’s also almost no difference in the grilling
Cast iron is great indoors when you don’t have enough BTUs since you can heat soak it and keep it away from the elements. But outdoor grilling you have enough BTUs to not have to heat soak as compensation
intresting
Weber genesis ii s435 was my pick, 1250 from costco assembled
Great Reviews. The question I have is WHY did they get away with the ceramic disk or rocks to even out the heat? I believe MHP has them, what are your thoughts of that grill?
check out our premium grills video they have those options on there.
@@embersliving Great, Thank you!!
This might be a dumb question but would the burn patterns change at all if these grills were using natural gas connection?
Well natural gas doesn’t burn quite as hot. So I think the pattern would be the same just a bit slower
Your video made me decide that this grill was the grill to get this summer. I was due for an upgrade from a charbroil that I have had for years. I can’t believe I was going to get a Weber at my local big box store. Yes, this grill was a lot more money, but the Napoleon brand really provides quality for what you pay for as opposed to some brands out there on the market. Again, can’t thank you enough as I love the grill.
Glad I could help!
Nice reviews, but please flip the bread the same way on each, it's clear to see the top/bottom of some is qute different, but when you flip top to bottom it's masking the difference! Thanks again though for your effort. Probably better to flip from left to right/right to left rather than front to back.
haha we have gotten a lot of feedback on how to flip the bread. We will do it again, but correctly. Thanks for watching.
I have an old aussie 4 burner stainess / full cabinet plus side burner grill. Been great for 15 years or more. But I am ready for a bit more quality. Your 500 to 1500 range works for me. I think more 500 to 850 is where I am comfortable. Quality burners / strong construction and good hardware and wheels are my main focus. Easy to clean grease trap and stainless grate ...good thermometer is also on my watch list.
nice
Awesome review - thank you.
Was going to go Weber but you’ve convinced me to go for the Napoleon Prestige 500 with the infrared side burner! Looks like a great piece of kit.
But $1500?!
No no no!! It’s $2500+ here in the UK!
Can you recommend a retail partner in the UK (assuming you don’t ship internationally) that can offer it for the $1500 price range?
Wow thats a steep jump. Unfortunately, no. We do USA only.
@@embersliving yes very steep! Even Napoleon Rogue 525 SE is around $1800.
I’m thinking that’s a better buy for the money - has the stainless steel grates & the infrared side burner like the prestige? Thoughts?
@@scholesiefirsttime did u end up getting it? I'm in the UK and seems prestige 500 is best
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf Yes I agree, I think Prestige 500 is best - I also like the Phantom too.
BUT both are significantly above the budget I can justify for a gas BBQ.
I am now looking at getting a Napoleon Lex 485 with RSIB.
How about you? Going to push on & go with the Prestige? Looks great.
@@scholesiefirsttimecheers mate, yes going prestige 500. buy once, cry once scenario i think for me. also the infrared heater and the multiple burners can blast heat and probably make a decent pizza oven too. everything else looks like a compromise and the rotisierie which is free is about £150.... push them to throw in a few extras and it will probably meet most of the other things i am thinking of buying.
I work with grills as a living and I can tell you, those Napoleon hoods, burners, and flavorizing bars are much more inferior compared to the Coyote ones. I would've easily put the Coyote as #1.
The quality of the steel used for the Coyote is top notch and flavorizing bars are great designs and quality. And yes, those burners are some of the best you can find. Much more efficient and reliable, burns evenly even after long time use, easily detachable for cleaning and repairing. All the components in the Coyote are very similar to expensive brands like Lynx and Vikings. The size is great also. Only being able to retract on one side for the Napoleon can get very annoying very fast and one little mistake of over burning will stain those "steels" forever.
The Coyote does have some solid burners
Not if you want American made
Can you get the prestige with cast iron grill bars?
you can buy them I believe
What are your thoughts on Broil King? Would love to get a review or even a reply.
Check out our channel. We have a review on it!
Can you please review the new prestige phantom...I'm definitely thinking of buying it as soon as it becomes available here in Canada.
Yes we have the review done already. We are not allowed to post until April 8th. Make sure to subscribe to see!
Quick question...should I buy the prestige pro or wait for the phantom? Esthetics would be the sole reason for the phantom...not sure about "cast" stainless steel either.
You may want to read the warranty for the Napoleon. Lifetime for some things but there is a complex chart of how long different components are covered (unless the grill I just purchased came wit an old manual.
According to the website and user manual. Lifetime for hood, aluminum castings, SS cooking grids, SS burners, all else is 15 years for the Prestige.
your looking at an older policy, they simplified their process last year
I love the Napoleon BBQ, recently I just sold my Napoleon LeX 703 which i have for around 10 years, it was as good as the day i got it, my only dislike about it was the lettering around the knobs rubbed off within a couple years but no other issues for 10 years and was hands down the best BBQ i every owned. I just purchased a new grill, not delivered yes, its the Napoleon Pro 665, I had no interest in other brands, only looked at the Napoleon because we were that happy with the LeX 703, I hope im just as happy with my Pro 665
The middle burner on Genesis might be off. What is the other video that you do the toast test on the weber?
I think it’s in our rogue video or the one with the blue genesis, we double checked that ourselves and the burner was for sure on
@@embersliving I'm sure you double checked but that's really weird. Also I noticed that the knob was on 10. On my genesis the higher setting is on 9. That's why I assumed that it might be off.
Thanks for the nice reviews!
Trevor, I hope you are good buddies with the Westminster fire marshal. I think you better research NFPA 58.
Most fire codes include an exception for businesses to operate LP gasses for educational or demonstration purposes. Example is california with 6103.2.1.5.
good to know
What is the fire feature you are burning in the background Trevor?
that is the dimplex opti myst
Great information video. Love the content
Appreciate it!
Therogood or Red Wing? Both good boots.
red wing
How long is the Coyote’s warranty?
Lifetime
It’s been great! No regrets. If you take care of it, it should easily last 15 years. No rust, no problems so far.
Very nice!
Excellent video. Thx
thanks for watching
Cool video!
Thanks!
i like BBQ'S but WTF its like most grill manufactures completely fail to under stand how food is made and use thin metals, most grills have hilariously uneven heat zones with metal plates to heat up and create even heat... how about you get the grill to actually function before you add 6 or 8 valves and still fail to have even heat, if i was to design a grill the fire would cook the food.. not a heated piece of metal... its like a very inefficient type of gas coil stove.. make a hydroformed rectangle burner to fit the whole area of the grill drill holes every square inch or more to cover the entire surface area with little flames and then make the burner raise and lower like a smoker, and then you got even heating
Nice idea! Thanks for watching DeVoNmotorsports!
with a Weber you can get parts everywhere and online.
true
I have a napoleon prestige, it's alright. I wish I had saved a bit more and went up to another level of grills. Something about the cheap feeling handles bothers me! Also they packed damaged parts into my box, so at least I know the warranty/service department was alright. I literally had to wait a month until they were making another batch of napoleon prestiges to get my part made, but I got it eventually.
Yeah that's what we recommend a lot of the time, get the premium quality! Napoleon is typically pretty good about warranty issues! Glad they took care of you though!
I’ve never enjoyed grill reviews so much.
Awesome! Glad you enjoy our reviews!
Me either! This guy is awesome
You need way more light for this kind of video and in this location.
yeah, its really tricky to shoot in the fireplace side of the store. We got some lights and new cameras since.
@@embersliving Thanks for the videos. I am looking for my 1st Gasgrill and so you are now in my TH-cam recommendations. ;) I ordered the Napoleon P500 Phantom today. Partially also to your videos. Greetings from Germany.
would be nice to put lights on
ha sorry about that, they were
I bought a prestige from you guys a year ago. It flairs up way worse than my old weber.
Probably selling it and going back to weber. Kinda sad it performs so poorly with fatty meats
I had a weber for 20 years then bought a nice shiny Black & Decker. I burnt the heck out of it first use. I think the depth of the burners is a big factor. We are probably going back to a weber for this reason. I think this is likely your issue as well.
good to know
Yea I've read the flare ups are terrible on the Napoleon Prestige and Pro series.
Your videos are excellent, but there's no way that weber center burner was performing properly. That deserved a full inspection and followup video. You can't just drop that in there and pretend it's how the grill works. And I don't even give a crap about Weber! I just don't want flawed conclusions from a faulty experiment, and this one is highly suspect (without examination and extra info)
we did redo it again the same result
Don't hate on a dirty grill! A dirty grill is a loved and used grill.
Haha you're right! It has definitely been loved and used!
Awesome and helpful but why was buddy out of breathe the whole video start to finish ? hahahaha
bad mic setting
Chose my new BBQ based off your reviews (multiple reviews not just this one). Thanks!
Awesome! Thanks for supporting us! Glad we could help you!
Really need another video on that Rogue Phantom. Seems comparable to the Prestige and it's cheaper.
It’s coming. It isn’t though. No rotisserie no lifetime warranty, made in China, and not as good of a lid
Just call them, they tell you. The phantom is painted black and has a fancy badge. So compared to the dougie/prestige it's the same product, just a fancy paint that will eventually fade or peel off due to heat. That's why it's cheaper. Just buy a regular one and enjoy not burning yourself if your skin hits the hot black from being in the direct sun or excess heat from the color. Personally, I don't like weird things like skeletons or ghosts or horror movies; yeah my phantom is on the deck. No thanks..
Looking forward to the Phantom Prestige 500 vid as well. The cast iron/stainless combo looks incredible.
Your videos are informative but please get some good lighting installed for your videos. Half the time I can't even see what you are referring to/talking about. I don't want to see shadows, I want to see the grill.
It really hard to shoot in the fireplace section of the showroom. We also got lights, new gear, and a new camera guy since.
You made me choose Weber.. by far the best performance.. Napoleon had the most uneven heating://
thanks for the feedback
Smokin Brothers for sure. Made 100% in MO.
ok
Want to know the difference between the Weber mentality and the Rogue mentality? The Weber door snap in place with 2 pins on each door. Quick and easy. Rogue uses a pile of cheap screws and some annoying brackets. The Rogue doors never line up as nicely as the Weber doors.
thanks for the feedback
Which would you get:
1. Weber Genesis II S-335 with cover, iGrill3, and 4 meat probes for $900
2. Napoleon Prestige 500 with cover for $1300
When you compare a S-335 and Prestige 500 at normal price, the Prestige 500 is the clear winner, but I could save over $400 with the S-335 and that makes my decision much tougher.
thats true, I still think long term your going to be happier with the P500 being you will have both grills for at least 10 years
Oh grilles. yay. Meh...
XL IGNITE BOLD. I’ll keep trolling. Lol.
Great vid guys!
Hahah i know we want the bold too! Wont be for a while unfortunately :(
@@embersliving I noticed a revised arrival date is now 2022. What happened? Very bummed. Was hoping to have it installed for this year's Parade of Homes (Sept/Oct 2021).
Yeah it’s not looking good. We may be able to fulfill existing pre orders but no new orders
I salute you
thanks
He puts the asparagus back in the grill :D
haha
Another video by Weber
no lol
I was about to light this guy up in the comments section about the Napoleon over the Weber until he mentioned the side sear station.🤣
ha
56 seconds into this video, which was titled the Best 5 Quality Gas Grills , you state you cannot make a "Top 5".
WTF
In Canada we make statements and stand by them.
Why can't you do the same?
Regards,
Kevin Tischer
so sorry Kevin
Got rid of my Coyote, a trash grill. Get you a Weber.
wow dang
In that line of barbecues where would a Char-Broil
PROFESSIONAL PRO S 4 come
we would have to get our hands on one
@@embersliving please buy one I think I want one and I want to see what it's like from experts point of view
I want to know why wasn’t that asparagus wrapped in bacon? 😂
dang good idea
bash bash bash
haha
By the way, having the filthy grill at a grill store is gross. I clean my grill when I am done cleaning and clean the top and side tables till everything is perfect. And I have an aussie 400 dollar grill. But its a pride and food maker.. so it needs to stay clean. Clean your grill man.. its just pride in cooking on a grill.
so sorry cayman
to much foreplay just get to the review brother
ha ok
The woebegone art interestingly delight because marble mechanically scrape sans a rustic christmas. flimsy, loutish ice
ha ok
Couldn’t even watch... just get on with the review already
thanks for the feedback
U Talk TOOOO much
So sorry
Too damn much talking, quite watching
Interesting lol... Thanks for watching and commenting none the less
you are too verbose.
thanks for the feedback
Tooooooo slow. Finish in under 2 minutes.
ok
I bought a Napolean prestige grill seems fine. Customer service is horrendous. Can you send me a phone number or email address that I can actually get through to have a conversation with a real person!!!
Sorry I cannot pass out emails, but I have used their customer service before and got a quick responce.