Hey guys, for the weapon swap, you don't have to tap it, you can simply use the skills and they will automatically weapon swap for you! A more advanced mobalystic will be up soon enough!
how to use mobalitycs if this isn't work?! can you use otehr resurce pls? always "error: something went terribly wrong... Sorry for any inconvenience, we are trying our best but this is still work in progress and there might be issues."
@@Exzeph second bow and quiver could be not as good. the dps from the rods is already insane with a bow thats 15% as expensive as your main bow (with my experience)
Hello @mikoshomikoshi . Very nice build but confused with skill tree progression if I want to start this build on 30ish level. Do you have maxroll build example to see skill tree progression for each level?
Dude its 02:39 at night here i was scrolling in youtube and i saw this video, now im at my chair and gonna make a new character, i was in love, awsome build keep going
Been following your videos since POE1, best bow guy out there for sure. Thank you for all your guides and videos. I did this build SSF and it works perfectly fine. I added ice shot at the end of A3 cruel for clearing/defense(freeze). Swapped LA to BL as soon as I have the gem and 95 int. Doryani A3 cruel melts in 20 seconds ish. I only have 100 spirit going into maps but you can still run the auras (HoICE and CoF for ice shot, Wind dancer and CoS for lightning rod) for mapping. Have to manually cast BL for rares because my bow sucks atm. For people hating on weapon swap, it is the best tech in POE2 imo. I am pretty sure if you dont have it in future build, you are just not going to be optimized.
Mikoshi the king of bow build. Love your content since poe1 . My wife did this build and its insane even if you dont have 500 divines infested ( she is currently on 2 div max gear) . Are you going to do a more endgame version ?
THanks for the Guide ! i have one question...you proposed a bow and a quiver....but for the weapon swap do i need that type of bow too ? is it important to have a good one ? what would i need ? thank you
Fubgun. Has an amazing video. It's ice and lightning. Everything is lightning arrow. And you have enough cold dmg + freeze build up to absolutely freeze everything + shocking it all. And herald of thunder AND herald of ice doing their thing.
Are there any updates here on this build Mikoshi? Are there no written guides? Your mobalytic link doesn't show any gear. I've been rocking Ice shot and am only rounding out level 74, been busy lately, but just looking for some other people's builds so I can target new gear soon. No big deal though, I will live in the wiki in my free time this week lol.
Hey Mikoshi, nice guide. How do you survive T15? Just purely by evasion and HP (how many did you stack for T15?)? If so could you please elaborate on the defenses, thank you.
Switching back to lightning arrow, and comboing that with the rong that converts 100% of lightining damage to cold, would that affect the dps any? Currebtly lvling and yhsts what im going towards
Thanks for all the effort! iam lvl 76 and still not able to proc cast on shock propperly... and i dont get it why, i have the tree and wepon swap tech...
Hey man, Rods is terrible to proc Shock, but Ball Lightning is amazing. What I do is cast some rods, manually cast a single ball lightning, and then just spam rods. The single manually cast ball lighting should proc your CastOnShock so more balls appear and it just grows exponentially from there
Literally: Step 1. Read Lightning rod = PRocs to shock Step 2. Use uncut skill gem look for skills that has shock chance. (Ball of lightning has 750% chance). Step 3. Put Ball of lightning in Cast on Shock. Step 4. Profit.
Not sure what I'm missing, level 76 with pretty much the same passive tree minus Giantslayer nodes and I cannot proc ball lightning from cast on shock but just once or twice the entire boss fight spam'n lightning rods the whole time.
Hey thanks for the guide. Do you have any mana sustain issues with cast on shock vs single target? I heard that without Thief's Tormet you end up out of mana really quick.
is the cast on crit eye of winter solely for getting more crit chance through crit weakness? So if one were to get 100% crit through other means it would be useless?
hey bro u vanished,what lvl are u now? still playing with this hybrid ? , im currently in coc and iceshot at 150-160k dmg and i saw urs here seems interesting,viable in super end game? (im bored with coc and i liked that ice wall as an idea)
Better as a budget option or what? Since high end LA builds are more or less the same with every other build oneshotting fully juiced breach regardless of map modifiers.
Are you sure about Far shot vs Point blank isn't 7 metres in the game almost at the edge of the screen horizontally and into the next screen vertically?
@@mikoshomikoshi ah thanks, if you wanna go pure ice, how would you do it? Is the ring you were talking about the secret to ice being better vs bosses?
@ going pure ice id suggest you go do ice shot crit with eye of winter. I think moxsy made a guide on it, I’m sure the original creator will be linked there, forgot his name
Is the level shown on your gem tooltips the max level at which spells should be used? in other words, should we cap herald of ice at lv4, and "cast on" at lv8?
@@mikoshomikoshi I must ask though, if you need 95 int for the lowest level of ball lightning (lv11), why keep Cast On level 8 if you can have them higher? For example, lv10 Cast On requires 83 int, which is below 95. what am I missing?
Since we need more than 90 int - how much do we need int to build hybryd? We need some 212 dex for best bows. Rest we can invest in int. IS this rational to go for hybrid armors?
How is this build faster than LA? it takes you 8 seconds to kill a mob pack and you genuinely stood still for multiple seconds to kill a rare at 0:50 . You dont even have herald of thunder to help with clear.
is anyone else with problems on the swap weapons configuration for skills? ilke i have the ice in set I and the cast on freeze is active but as i change ti the set II (lightning) it turn off the cast on freeze but doesnt turn on the cast on shock. i have it set like in the video.
cant decide if i want to switch to ice shot over lightning arrow...the way my build is now my lightning arrow also freezes and shocks with alot of pierce from my quiver and it chains from lighning arrow and procs both my cast on shock and cast on freeze and can also proc my rods when i shoot them if needed when i dont use my lightning orb and it all still procs my cast on shock lightning ball and cast on freeze voltaic mark...because i have cold damage on one of my rings and quiver aswell as the cold damage jewel ''against the darkness time-lost diamond'' that converts the big nodes in the radius to also grant 4% of my damage as extra cold damage plus i have that annointed on my amulet that also grants cold damage ...ice shot feels better on just the feeling for faster damage and freezes but LA with my setup gets rid of the whole swapping aspect of things and procs both elements
cuz lightning arrow is kinda slow.. like not that good.. it's insane on campaign but clearing breaches.. for deadeye.. it's usually Spiral Volley or Ice Shot..
I wanna swap to this build as I’m close to Level 60 but nothing higher than lesser jewellers orbs are dropping so only have 3 support slots available to each skill would the build still function? Or should I just stick with what I’ve got for now
For the weapon swap tech, if we don’t have the currency to buy 2 decent weapon sets and/or too early into the game. Would it work to deactivate one cast on _ for the other? Have them both equipped but right click them from skill menu before an upcoming boss fight / mapping, or would that mess with the build?
yes that would work, but then you need to split nodes on tree between cold/lightning and cant use the weapon set nodes. i recommend when upgrading bow/quiver just use your old ones as the offhand in 99% cases its enough
@ I didn’t even consider the nodes. If it works then doing it early wouldn’t hurt until we have a significant amount of weapon set points and start specing cold and light nodes. I’ll keep the usage of old items in mind, thanks!
Hey all, I am currently leveling through the campaign with gasarrow and igniting it with an unique helmet, but the goal is to swap to this build as I like the looks/feel of frost spells. Is it possible to swap once done with the campaign or would that be too early? I am currently in act 3 cruel, hence wondering. Thanks in advance!
@@mikoshomikoshi How do I determ if a bow I can buy is better then my current one before buying it? I am trying a weighted search, but I just have no clue if I am doing it right and if the results are better then mine.
new here... im stuck with the ball lighting i need 2 same skill? one i use and another in the cast on shock socket? but is dont work for me i have the skill icon in dark and is doest swap automatically how i can set it? and about the spirit do you need like 120 spirit to have all activated? i really like it the build since i see it but im stuck now xD
using the translate i figure out about the spirit and the cast on shock thx to the translate not my main language english :s i just tring to figure out now how i can manually use the bolt balls and still using it with the swap thing or you cant?
@@Shuja_R1M you can. However you kill every enemy usually with a single attack, so TS is just making your mapping a bit slower as it’s a 2 button combo
So with this setup Lightning Rods should trigger cast on shock by itself? I m playing your old Lightning build but my Rods not triggering themselfs i have to use another spell, what am i missing?
Hey man, Rods is terrible to proc Shock, but Ball Lightning is amazing. What I do is cast some rods, manually cast a single ball lightning, and then just spam rods. The single manually cast ball lighting should proc your CastOnShock so more balls appear and it just grows exponentially from there
So if I'm understanding correctly, you're not actually casting Ball Lightning? You're just spamming Lightning Rod which is auto casting the Balls hence "Cast on Shock"? My meter for the CoS is going up so slow though...
Seems a little better but nowhere like in his video. Also, I am at 13k ice shot damage unbuffed on sheet, he is at 23.7k. I'm level 83 and following his passive tree so it has to be the weapon/quiver making all that difference, right? EDIT: my bow is showing a DPS of 294.6 overall
I can not shock any mobs for some reason, did align skill points for different weapons but cast on shock just doesnt work, it writes 0% at right top of the screen
can the skill be use to start the campaign until mapping? i want to try this build. freeze and chill have a chance to help the character survive. oh, so this build can't be a starter. already 60 spirits for the 2 cast on smth skills. unlucky! thanks.
Honestly you’re better off just blasting through using LA in campaign and then swapping off to ice shot in maps. I’m pretty sure you could make this work in early game just using herald explosions with ice shot but I’m fairly certain the single target suffers and it’s only comparable to LA for general clear in campaign.
What's your current plan for single target damage for when the ball lightning interaction is inevitably nerfed? I haven't figured out a good plan for that other than Shockburst rounds.
@@DDpokerr What are you talking about? All of the boss dmg comes from ball lightning triggering lightning rod, being triggered by Cast on Shock. CoS was already nerfed, and works fine for most builds now. It's specifically this interaction that breaks it again, because of the loop generated by ball + rod.
I have all the same gems, better bows than the one shown, but on bosses I don't run out of mana and my damage is not similar to that at all. What could be wrong?
@@mikoshomikoshi Thank you, I added a couple jewels with shock chance and now I'm melting even cidadel bosses Amazing build! Just wish I could get a bit more defences.
"simply use skills to weapon swap" -> can someone kindly explain how exactly this is meant? I use the same setup as shown here. So cast on freeze for Set 1, and cast on shock for Set 2. Mainly for mapping I use Set 1 with Ice shot an cast on freeze. Do I only have to use, while still using set 1, for example lightning rod and / or Lighnting Ball -> set will be swapped to Set 2?!? I ask because I can´t see the active effects of set 2 after using lightning skills!? I still see the buff at the top left for cast on freeze but if I use lightning skills it does not chance to cast on shock!? So what exactly is needed for automatic weapon swap? Thank you :)
@@ronnisouza3571 If I see it right there is only mentioned that we have to link the cast an freeze to set 1 and cast an shock to set 2. What has not been mentioned, and that solved it for me -> I have linked every skill to the suitable set, so ice skills like Ice Shot to Set 1 only, and for example lightning rod to Set 2 only. Like this now it changes as intented automatically. I use Ice Shot -> Set one -> I use lightning rod -> changes to Set 2
well you also have to be level 90 to get the full tree, but also it looks like he has 24 extra points because of the weapons swap system, but in reality it doesn't give you extra points. it just lets you allocate 24 of your 122 (@lvl 100) to specific weapon slots. Simply put, at 100 you have 122 points total, you can either use 122 points for both weapons, and not allocate them at all, OR you can use 98/122 points for both weapons, and 24 points for each weapon set.
@@guillaumedinnat3254 yeah do not need a gem to have them effect, except if its with *additional*, which means you would need something to make them do what you want
It look nice but this build cost a lot before you can enable the same result you need spirit at least 150 you need 5L you need 2 good bow and quiver but if you can do it more power to you 😊
Tbf, 120 is more than enough spirit, and you can also not do any weapon swap tech and still blast t15. 5L is quite useful as its a one button build, but then again, not needed
The clear is very good, but im having a huge problem, dealing zdps to bosses, with my lv 27 LightRod, lv19 BallLight. Struggle, but thanks for the build anyway ^^ p/s the discord invitation is gone
@@mikoshomikoshi the lower frost wall cost 72 int, t8 spirit gem is so expensive compare to another spirit gem, so if we need 72 min of int we can put a higher herald lvl than 8 :)
highroll "gain # mana per killed enemy" on quiver get the +80% from tree and is huge sustain = 1mob pack explode full mana 6:33 look at quiver Edit : Build also uses "Siphon" node on tree via weapon swap, so for mapping you get 2% mana on kill, if you dont have the points yet you can also consider 2% mana on kill jewel (saphire)
Physical mana leech works as well on skills that have phys converted to an element. Well, I'm assuming ice shot does because I know the gas arrow explosion can leech mana.
@@CouchGuy19 phys leech is kinda bad for iceshot since you convert 70% phys to cold and that only the 3 arrows. Everything else is pure cold damage. The little shards are 100% convert same as Herald of Ice
@@Sora_PoE well, from what I was told, phys converted to ele still works. I'm playing an explosive gas arrow build, and that is 100% phys to fire, and I definitely get mana leech from it.
for the swap tech you would need another bow and quiver. you can play the build without the swap for the time being and can still deal crazy dps, but swap is more optimized
@@mikoshomikoshi Is there a way to use the same bow W/o weapon swapping? If you are poor and have to choose between one 2D bow or two 1D bows, the 2D bow seems better.
@pokemonbill The only issue you would have trying to do it with only 1 weapon is that you won't have an optimized setup on your passive tree. With weapon swap, you have 24 points you can spend on separate weapon slots. That way when you use your ice shot bow, you get cold modifiers on the tree, and when you swap, you now get lightning bonuses. If you did it without the swap, you won't do the max possible damage with both elements.
@@CouchGuy19well explained! Set 2 Bow (Bossing) can be like 200 pdps and only through the 24 skillnodes be better + Set1 Bow gets huge clear boost for Iceshot. Mikoshis Set 2 gear is like maybe 15ex
@ indeed. Your second bow doesn’t need to be that expensive. The broken interaction with the rods will carry you anyways. I’d say even 15% of the price of the main bow is enough (when talking about divines) - with the economy of today, might change. Hope this helps
Round about the same. If you use weapon swap tech maybe a bit more, but I find the feeling of the build better than la at a same budget. If you have a lot of currency going LA might be better, but we are talking a lot more. (All my opinion)
Hey guys, for the weapon swap, you don't have to tap it, you can simply use the skills and they will automatically weapon swap for you!
A more advanced mobalystic will be up soon enough!
how to use mobalitycs if this isn't work?! can you use otehr resurce pls?
always "error:
something went
terribly wrong...
Sorry for any inconvenience, we are trying our best but this is
still work in progress and there might be issues."
but do we need to have two good bows/quivers?
@@Exzeph Thats my question as well
@@Exzeph second bow and quiver could be not as good. the dps from the rods is already insane with a bow thats 15% as expensive as your main bow (with my experience)
Hello @mikoshomikoshi . Very nice build but confused with skill tree progression if I want to start this build on 30ish level. Do you have maxroll build example to see skill tree progression for each level?
Dude its 02:39 at night here i was scrolling in youtube and i saw this video, now im at my chair and gonna make a new character, i was in love, awsome build keep going
what type of bow do i need for the swap ? do they both need to be really good ?
Been following your videos since POE1, best bow guy out there for sure. Thank you for all your guides and videos.
I did this build SSF and it works perfectly fine. I added ice shot at the end of A3 cruel for clearing/defense(freeze). Swapped LA to BL as soon as I have the gem and 95 int. Doryani A3 cruel melts in 20 seconds ish. I only have 100 spirit going into maps but you can still run the auras (HoICE and CoF for ice shot, Wind dancer and CoS for lightning rod) for mapping. Have to manually cast BL for rares because my bow sucks atm.
For people hating on weapon swap, it is the best tech in POE2 imo. I am pretty sure if you dont have it in future build, you are just not going to be optimized.
@@cookiemony112 eyyy, thx for the nice comment. Happy it works for you in SSF !!
nice written guide within 48 hours
Did I miss you making use of inspiration somewhere? Seems like a no-brainer for the ball lightning setup. 40% less cost is 2/3 more casts.
Any Update on the Detailed Mobalitys guide?
Mikoshi the king of bow build. Love your content since poe1 . My wife did this build and its insane even if you dont have 500 divines infested ( she is currently on 2 div max gear) . Are you going to do a more endgame version ?
Very, very well explained.
Do you need 2 weapons to use the weapon swap so you'd have to have 2 good bows and quivers?
I believe he has 2 weapons so yes he has 2 bows and 2 quivers
And Don the crown just had a video with his monk featuring the same ring. Price is 1 div right now.
Omg,it’s not gd,this tech was known since second day from start to finish
yeah ngl I'm starting to hate the youtubers who make build guides lol.. a single video turns a 5 exalt item into a divine.. like ffs.
THanks for the Guide ! i have one question...you proposed a bow and a quiver....but for the weapon swap do i need that type of bow too ? is it important to have a good one ? what would i need ? thank you
@mikoshomikoshi bumb :)
Fubgun. Has an amazing video. It's ice and lightning. Everything is lightning arrow. And you have enough cold dmg + freeze build up to absolutely freeze everything + shocking it all. And herald of thunder AND herald of ice doing their thing.
Are there any updates here on this build Mikoshi? Are there no written guides? Your mobalytic link doesn't show any gear. I've been rocking Ice shot and am only rounding out level 74, been busy lately, but just looking for some other people's builds so I can target new gear soon. No big deal though, I will live in the wiki in my free time this week lol.
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Hey Mikoshi, nice guide. How do you survive T15? Just purely by evasion and HP (how many did you stack for T15?)? If so could you please elaborate on the defenses, thank you.
Sorry new to the game, how do you swap weapons for this? Meaning do I need to purchase two sets of weapons in order to do this build?
Yep
I may have missed it but you should really bring up needing spirit on your gear, also full written guide seems to still not be done?
This was exactly what I was after ty
Switching back to lightning arrow, and comboing that with the rong that converts 100% of lightining damage to cold, would that affect the dps any? Currebtly lvling and yhsts what im going towards
Herald of ice cannot chain itself. Press G and read details of Herald of ice.
48 hours later and the mobalytics isnt updated :/
Did this get nerfed, at least the lightning portion? If not what level cast on shock should i use since its high int requirement
U choose cast on Critical instead.. if you don't wanna bother trying to swap...
do i need 2 bows and 2 quivers?
Thanks for all the effort! iam lvl 76 and still not able to proc cast on shock propperly... and i dont get it why, i have the tree and wepon swap tech...
Hey man, Rods is terrible to proc Shock, but Ball Lightning is amazing. What I do is cast some rods, manually cast a single ball lightning, and then just spam rods.
The single manually cast ball lighting should proc your CastOnShock so more balls appear and it just grows exponentially from there
Literally:
Step 1. Read Lightning rod = PRocs to shock
Step 2. Use uncut skill gem look for skills that has shock chance. (Ball of lightning has 750% chance).
Step 3. Put Ball of lightning in Cast on Shock.
Step 4. Profit.
What level can we start to work towards this build?
Nice guide man! Do you plan on upgrading this build?
@@eliezermonteiro872 yeah, after the holidays
@@eliezermonteiro872 and thank you :)
what would you suggest for a 5L iceshot? im not 100% sure which support gem i should take
Not sure what I'm missing, level 76 with pretty much the same passive tree minus Giantslayer nodes and I cannot proc ball lightning from cast on shock but just once or twice the entire boss fight spam'n lightning rods the whole time.
Hi, so, for weapon swap, i must have second bow yes? One must have physical damage and the other one for lightning damage? is that correct?
does this still work after the meta gems nerf?
Hey thanks for the guide. Do you have any mana sustain issues with cast on shock vs single target? I heard that without Thief's Tormet you end up out of mana really quick.
yeah, dps is limited by mana. just spam mana flask, instant recovery mods help a lot for that
is the cast on crit eye of winter solely for getting more crit chance through crit weakness? So if one were to get 100% crit through other means it would be useless?
hey bro u vanished,what lvl are u now? still playing with this hybrid ? , im currently in coc and iceshot at 150-160k dmg and i saw urs here seems interesting,viable in super end game? (im bored with coc and i liked that ice wall as an idea)
Better as a budget option or what? Since high end LA builds are more or less the same with every other build oneshotting fully juiced breach regardless of map modifiers.
@@ascarotte6943 yeah I’d say. Maybe even just for average budget.
Are you sure about Far shot vs Point blank isn't 7 metres in the game almost at the edge of the screen horizontally and into the next screen vertically?
@@bogroll1881 far shot is going to be for dedicated mappers for higher end builds. For new and avg player, point blank is best
looks nice, you think it could also be viable as a witchhunter?
my question
@bulkathos5207 yeah, pretty sure you can, as good as? Maybe not
@@mikoshomikoshi ah thanks, if you wanna go pure ice, how would you do it? Is the ring you were talking about the secret to ice being better vs bosses?
@ going pure ice id suggest you go do ice shot crit with eye of winter. I think moxsy made a guide on it, I’m sure the original creator will be linked there, forgot his name
It's giving me lowkey Tornado Shot vibes
Is the level shown on your gem tooltips the max level at which spells should be used? in other words, should we cap herald of ice at lv4, and "cast on" at lv8?
no, everything as high level possible and cast on shock and freeze at lvl 8
@@mikoshomikoshi Thanks!!
@@mikoshomikoshi I must ask though, if you need 95 int for the lowest level of ball lightning (lv11), why keep Cast On level 8 if you can have them higher? For example, lv10 Cast On requires 83 int, which is below 95. what am I missing?
Yo I really want to try out this build. Do we need any extra Spirits rather than the amulet? or would that be enough?
U need minimum of 200 spirit.. and you can get herald reservation to lower the spirit cost.
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 new to poe and tried to look up what you meant but couldn't find anything. what exactly is a herald reservation?
Since we need more than 90 int - how much do we need int to build hybryd? We need some 212 dex for best bows. Rest we can invest in int. IS this rational to go for hybrid armors?
Hi, unless its to get int on gear, you should go full evasion, hybrid armour gives less evasion and gives ES, which is useless. Hope this helps
How is this build faster than LA? it takes you 8 seconds to kill a mob pack and you genuinely stood still for multiple seconds to kill a rare at 0:50 . You dont even have herald of thunder to help with clear.
not everyone wanna play LA, if u want the best zoomy 1 shot afk build then go and donate to some streamer
@bulkathos5207 read the title man hes advertising it as better
Where do we get the onslaught from? Can u pls show dps in skill panel?
Death Rush Ring
is anyone else with problems on the swap weapons configuration for skills? ilke i have the ice in set I and the cast on freeze is active but as i change ti the set II (lightning) it turn off the cast on freeze but doesnt turn on the cast on shock. i have it set like in the video.
cant decide if i want to switch to ice shot over lightning arrow...the way my build is now my lightning arrow also freezes and shocks with alot of pierce from my quiver and it chains from lighning arrow and procs both my cast on shock and cast on freeze and can also proc my rods when i shoot them if needed when i dont use my lightning orb and it all still procs my cast on shock lightning ball and cast on freeze voltaic mark...because i have cold damage on one of my rings and quiver aswell as the cold damage jewel ''against the darkness time-lost diamond'' that converts the big nodes in the radius to also grant 4% of my damage as extra cold damage plus i have that annointed on my amulet that also grants cold damage ...ice shot feels better on just the feeling for faster damage and freezes but LA with my setup gets rid of the whole swapping aspect of things and procs both elements
cuz lightning arrow is kinda slow.. like not that good.. it's insane on campaign but clearing breaches.. for deadeye.. it's usually
Spiral Volley or Ice Shot..
What do you recommend to play as while levelling?
use LA for act 1 and 2 then you can switch to ice shot when you get it if you want
@@brunopiveta257 thanks
@@brunopiveta257 yep thats what i did, works fine
I wanna swap to this build as I’m close to Level 60 but nothing higher than lesser jewellers orbs are dropping so only have 3 support slots available to each skill would the build still function? Or should I just stick with what I’ve got for now
Oh I also only have 91 spirit currently
For the weapon swap tech, if we don’t have the currency to buy 2 decent weapon sets and/or too early into the game. Would it work to deactivate one cast on _ for the other? Have them both equipped but right click them from skill menu before an upcoming boss fight / mapping, or would that mess with the build?
yes that would work, but then you need to split nodes on tree between cold/lightning and cant use the weapon set nodes.
i recommend when upgrading bow/quiver just use your old ones as the offhand in 99% cases its enough
@ I didn’t even consider the nodes. If it works then doing it early wouldn’t hurt until we have a significant amount of weapon set points and start specing cold and light nodes. I’ll keep the usage of old items in mind, thanks!
What i do is open my inventory and simply swap the bows around for example when I fight the breach boss or juicy map boss takes 5 s
Hey all, I am currently leveling through the campaign with gasarrow and igniting it with an unique helmet, but the goal is to swap to this build as I like the looks/feel of frost spells. Is it possible to swap once done with the campaign or would that be too early? I am currently in act 3 cruel, hence wondering. Thanks in advance!
@@flobb you could, just make sure to get a good bow
@@mikoshomikoshi How do I determ if a bow I can buy is better then my current one before buying it? I am trying a weighted search, but I just have no clue if I am doing it right and if the results are better then mine.
new here... im stuck with the ball lighting i need 2 same skill? one i use and another in the cast on shock socket? but is dont work for me i have the skill icon in dark and is doest swap automatically how i can set it? and about the spirit do you need like 120 spirit to have all activated? i really like it the build since i see it but im stuck now xD
using the translate i figure out about the spirit and the cast on shock thx to the translate not my main language english :s i just tring to figure out now how i can manually use the bolt balls and still using it with the swap thing or you cant?
@Mikoshi , Cast on Shock and Cast on Freez dont work with weapon swap.... I Do something wrong ?
Could you pair ice shot with tornado shot? or will the reduction in projectile damage affect ice shot too much?
@@Shuja_R1M you can. However you kill every enemy usually with a single attack, so TS is just making your mapping a bit slower as it’s a 2 button combo
@ gotcha!
What about jewels? Which stats u're recomending?
Came here to ask the same! Was thinking of just going for attack speed + some dmg to start
About bow, can be used widowhail, that increased 250% buffs from quiver ? Or recommentanded is rare bow ?
Rare bow
I was looking to make a ice ranger build and looking at yours I think I’m gonna go crit/ice and use snipe for bosses with frenzy charges
at that point you might as well use Spiral Volley.. cuz it gets insane scale with frenzy charges.
Whats the stats on the second bow and quiver?
So with this setup Lightning Rods should trigger cast on shock by itself? I m playing your old Lightning build but my Rods not triggering themselfs i have to use another spell, what am i missing?
Hey man, Rods is terrible to proc Shock, but Ball Lightning is amazing. What I do is cast some rods, manually cast a single ball lightning, and then just spam rods.
The single manually cast ball lighting should proc your CastOnShock so more balls appear and it just grows exponentially from there
Any update of this build in future?
That’s not how evasion works it’s a check between your evasion and the enemies accuracy
You are wrong
So if I'm understanding correctly, you're not actually casting Ball Lightning? You're just spamming Lightning Rod which is auto casting the Balls hence "Cast on Shock"? My meter for the CoS is going up so slow though...
do you use voltaic mark? you can also use orb of storm to start the loop and keep shooting lightning rod into it
@@Sora_PoE Oh shoot, I forgot about using Voltaic mark. I'll try it out!
Seems a little better but nowhere like in his video. Also, I am at 13k ice shot damage unbuffed on sheet, he is at 23.7k. I'm level 83 and following his passive tree so it has to be the weapon/quiver making all that difference, right?
EDIT: my bow is showing a DPS of 294.6 overall
Im level 50 mid Lightning Arrow build, Is this build achievable with respec or should i make a new character?
@@Calinons it is, would suggest waiting. Anyways not much respec needed
Is this a good build to level and early maps farm with?
@@brunowalkowiak3432 yes
@@mikoshomikoshi when mobalistic update?
I can not shock any mobs for some reason, did align skill points for different weapons but cast on shock just doesnt work, it writes 0% at right top of the screen
i have the same.. why is it not procing?
@@nevermore-28 if it’s a boss, make sure you use voltaic mark when using the rods
can the skill be use to start the campaign until mapping? i want to try this build. freeze and chill have a chance to help the character survive. oh, so this build can't be a starter. already 60 spirits for the 2 cast on smth skills. unlucky! thanks.
Honestly you’re better off just blasting through using LA in campaign and then swapping off to ice shot in maps. I’m pretty sure you could make this work in early game just using herald explosions with ice shot but I’m fairly certain the single target suffers and it’s only comparable to LA for general clear in campaign.
@@christianchilders8969 , thank you so much.
how to scale this build with HOWA gloves
What's your current plan for single target damage for when the ball lightning interaction is inevitably nerfed? I haven't figured out a good plan for that other than Shockburst rounds.
This interaction is debuffs in general. Not ball lightning or lightning rod.
@@DDpokerr What are you talking about? All of the boss dmg comes from ball lightning triggering lightning rod, being triggered by Cast on Shock. CoS was already nerfed, and works fine for most builds now. It's specifically this interaction that breaks it again, because of the loop generated by ball + rod.
I have all the same gems, better bows than the one shown, but on bosses I don't run out of mana and my damage is not similar to that at all. What could be wrong?
@@brunolm7 if you don’t run out of mana that means you probably don’t proc cast on shock enough
@@mikoshomikoshi Thank you, I added a couple jewels with shock chance and now I'm melting even cidadel bosses
Amazing build! Just wish I could get a bit more defences.
@ more dps and evasion will go a long way, trust in them !
how does the weapon swap tech works? do i need 2 bows for it?
Thanks! What do mean "gem levels" on gear? i dont see it on your screenshots.
on the weapon showcase, on the quiver, there is a +2 to all proj gems. thats what i meant, i dont have it on my current bow
@@mikoshomikoshi ohhh..now i get it, the "skill gems", thx. I was almost sure you mean "GEin Mana per kill" lol
"simply use skills to weapon swap" -> can someone kindly explain how exactly this is meant? I use the same setup as shown here. So cast on freeze for Set 1, and cast on shock for Set 2. Mainly for mapping I use Set 1 with Ice shot an cast on freeze. Do I only have to use, while still using set 1, for example lightning rod and / or Lighnting Ball -> set will be swapped to Set 2?!? I ask because I can´t see the active effects of set 2 after using lightning skills!? I still see the buff at the top left for cast on freeze but if I use lightning skills it does not chance to cast on shock!? So what exactly is needed for automatic weapon swap? Thank you :)
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@@ronnisouza3571 If I see it right there is only mentioned that we have to link the cast an freeze to set 1 and cast an shock to set 2. What has not been mentioned, and that solved it for me -> I have linked every skill to the suitable set, so ice skills like Ice Shot to Set 1 only, and for example lightning rod to Set 2 only. Like this now it changes as intented automatically. I use Ice Shot -> Set one -> I use lightning rod -> changes to Set 2
weapon swap means you need 2 sets of bow, quiver ?
yes sadly, just use your old bows and quiver for the offhand! its 99% of the time enough!
hey guys how much intelligence i need to make this build?
Did you tried chain? its so sick, but lack of single target dmg.
Ricochet is the answer!
where is the frenzy comming from in the show case?
when do i swap to ice shot?
So they exact same as lightning arrow just use ise shot instead got it.
Well you need 2 bows and quivers for weapon swap…
Tell me please. Why doesn't the explosion and the wall work?
@@Anton-rs5pr it does work
I was just thinking for like hard bosses is there anytyhing stopping me from switching my good bow in the inventory to the other weapon set ?
Nothing
@ I’m blasting, breach is so much smoother than with LA might be because I had too little cold to attacks? But this is nice thanks
@@TheFinQ yeah, not enough cold dmg can hurt LA for herald of ice. the ring can defo help, but I think I prefer Ice Shot by far.
Lightning rods are too annoying.
I thought fork was good, then i changed to chain and it's super good. I kind of want both.
yo, "call of the brotherhood, topaz ring" can work with this build?
@@musclegeek502 can’t shock with it
@@mikoshomikoshi can you run this build with only one weapon? if yes which passives change in the build? thank you in advance
How do you have so many passive points? I can't hit all of the nodes even at level 79
its because of the weapon sets! Pink/Red = Mapping Nodes (Weapon Set 1) and green = Bossing nodes (Weapon Set 2)
well you also have to be level 90 to get the full tree, but also it looks like he has 24 extra points because of the weapons swap system, but in reality it doesn't give you extra points. it just lets you allocate 24 of your 122 (@lvl 100) to specific weapon slots.
Simply put, at 100 you have 122 points total, you can either use 122 points for both weapons, and not allocate them at all, OR you can use 98/122 points for both weapons, and 24 points for each weapon set.
Yo,
do i need the gem ( ricochet or fork ) to make the talent doing something ?
Ty
@@guillaumedinnat3254 talent ? I use fork, prefer that over ricochet by far, then again, that’s preference
I mean in the passive skill tree, does it work by itself ?
@@guillaumedinnat3254 yeah do not need a gem to have them effect, except if its with *additional*, which means you would need something to make them do what you want
It look nice but this build cost a lot before you can enable the same result you need spirit at least 150 you need 5L you need 2 good bow and quiver but if you can do it more power to you 😊
Tbf, 120 is more than enough spirit, and you can also not do any weapon swap tech and still blast t15. 5L is quite useful as its a one button build, but then again, not needed
can switch to this setup in lvl 80?
@@iampongchi yes
@mikoshomikoshi what nodes can i disregard for the meantime?
The clear is very good, but im having a huge problem, dealing zdps to bosses, with my lv 27 LightRod, lv19 BallLight. Struggle, but thanks for the build anyway ^^
p/s the discord invitation is gone
wich lvl gem on cast on shock and freeze?
@@pablogalvez91 8
@@mikoshomikoshi the lower frost wall cost 72 int, t8 spirit gem is so expensive compare to another spirit gem, so if we need 72 min of int we can put a higher herald lvl than 8 :)
I find this build really fun and attractive, but im pathfinder lol
How much spirit need for this build ?
120 for the raw functions, 145 for quality
How to deal with lack of mana?
highroll "gain # mana per killed enemy" on quiver get the +80% from tree and is huge sustain = 1mob pack explode full mana
6:33 look at quiver
Edit : Build also uses "Siphon" node on tree via weapon swap, so for mapping you get 2% mana on kill, if you dont have the points yet you can also consider 2% mana on kill jewel (saphire)
Physical mana leech works as well on skills that have phys converted to an element. Well, I'm assuming ice shot does because I know the gas arrow explosion can leech mana.
@@CouchGuy19 phys leech is kinda bad for iceshot since you convert 70% phys to cold and that only the 3 arrows. Everything else is pure cold damage. The little shards are 100% convert same as Herald of Ice
@@Sora_PoE well, from what I was told, phys converted to ele still works. I'm playing an explosive gas arrow build, and that is 100% phys to fire, and I definitely get mana leech from it.
im definetly trying the build, but how it works with weapon swap? Do i need second identical bow in the second slot or can i somehow use the same bow?
for the swap tech you would need another bow and quiver. you can play the build without the swap for the time being and can still deal crazy dps, but swap is more optimized
@@mikoshomikoshi Is there a way to use the same bow W/o weapon swapping? If you are poor and have to choose between one 2D bow or two 1D bows, the 2D bow seems better.
@pokemonbill The only issue you would have trying to do it with only 1 weapon is that you won't have an optimized setup on your passive tree. With weapon swap, you have 24 points you can spend on separate weapon slots. That way when you use your ice shot bow, you get cold modifiers on the tree, and when you swap, you now get lightning bonuses. If you did it without the swap, you won't do the max possible damage with both elements.
@@CouchGuy19well explained!
Set 2 Bow (Bossing) can be like 200 pdps and only through the 24 skillnodes be better + Set1 Bow gets huge clear boost for Iceshot.
Mikoshis Set 2 gear is like maybe 15ex
@ indeed. Your second bow doesn’t need to be that expensive. The broken interaction with the rods will carry you anyways. I’d say even 15% of the price of the main bow is enough (when talking about divines) - with the economy of today, might change. Hope this helps
Possible to level with this build?
did not try low level, but most likely. Would it be better than LA + lightning rods, that I do not know
Why do you use Physical dmg?
ice shot and lightning rod do big conversions
build good on a new budget? Leveling?
Like the build but everyone is just jacking shit from 1-10ex to 1div b/c math is hard.
So damn broken.... I got laggy from the walls explosion :)))
Hey is this cheaper than LA?
Round about the same. If you use weapon swap tech maybe a bit more, but I find the feeling of the build better than la at a same budget. If you have a lot of currency going LA might be better, but we are talking a lot more. (All my opinion)
how do you get onslaught?
i'd like to know as well
I think the only way is DeathRush ring
@@cuongtruong9070yes it is!
@@cuongtruong9070 does it have same effect like on poe1? 20% ms and as?
Lightning seems to be better and faster
No hate but this build does look that good compared to the LA build
Sucks that console players can’t do the weapon swap tech
I have like 163 spirit and cannot activate wind dancer. My cast on shock has a 60 spirit reservation.
check the stat requirements on the support gems, also make sure that you have the cast on shock and cast on freeze on different weapon sets