Maybe, but unfortunately those would be speculation, as no surviving treatises on those weapon systems exists. It would be a experimental archaeology if we were to do something like that... -Reece
These videos are just so engaging and it's easy to comprehend what's going on thanks to your format. I've been trying to think of some constructive criticism but I really can't. You clearly know what you're doing, which is great. :) P.S: You guys have inspired me to seek out a HEMA school myself. Unfortunately there's no group near me that practices in full harness. However I am part of a Viking re-enactment society (the Glasgow Vikings is my branch), so I do get to enjoy plenty of sparring :)
Potato Synthesis, wow! Thanks for the awesome compliment. That truly means a lot to us... We're glad to hear we've inspired you to pursue western martial arts! We're currently working on a curriculum so we can travel and teach other groups. So, when you find a group let us know and we'll see about forming a workshop :) Reece
I can only agree with your comments regarding the video, its one thing to read the manuscripts something else entirely to see it stepped through from multiple angles. I feel your pain regarding finding a HEMA group who do armored stuff. My local group tends to focus on saber ect.
We definitely encourage ppl to get harness to learn the techniques, but armour isn't necessary to get started. You can learn the techniques, strikes, etc to develop the muscle memory and slowly build up your harness. We'll cover a video on the subject soon, so be sure to stay tuned :) -Reece
Great stuff. I really appreciate the break down - how you show the move from multiple angles. Seems like many, not all, channels that attempt to show attack sequences from the past tend to go either too fast or not show enough. Thanks for all the hard work.
Thanks for thinking so! Our goal was to have people with lots of experience and none at all to follow what was going on with the techniques. Glade to have proved my method worked! :D Be sure to share with your friends and be sure to follow us on FB! facebook.com/PursuingTheKnightlyArts/ -Reece
If anyone is interested in creating a medieval history-themed Discord server (could be TH-cam channel-themed) please reply below. That goes for you also, Knightly Arts team!
Do you mean a Knightly Arts Discord server? I was actually saying they should make one before, so I'm all for it. Haven't seen many good historical medieval servers on discord.
I found this just after reading “The Green Count” by Christian Cameron. The main character, William Gold, uses vera croce in the book. I couldn’t figure out what it looked like. Thanks for this!
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 I do have a question about your equipment though. I've noticed your breast plates are more flat than other historical examples I have found. Is this intentional, or did they just get made that way?
We got to play with it before last year, but we did it without harness and tried to get a feel for the horses. Ben and I are looking into taking lessons, but it's really expensive :/ Our main goal is to get involved with jousting as well as the martial art ;) -Reece
Great team work, I really enjoy your approach to the study of sword art, as the one of your guests. It's not common to see this aspect of fight, the so called "gioco stretto", which is great! Keep on clanking guys, I follow you from the very first video.
Thanks for your support! Be sure to follow us on FB as well and let us know what you'd like to see for the future ;) facebook.com/PursuingTheKnightlyArts/ -Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts I'm curios about all the techniques used starting from half-swording guards. I'd also like to see how you would use them against an enemy who it's using a more agile approach, no half-swording I mean, something like pressing hits in the weak spots, not with the gioco stretto for being clear. Oh and more spear...always cool!
Well, Ben and I primarily study the German tradition and they almost always approach the fight with the sword in halfsword. It is the most effective and versatile use of the sword against plate. I'm a bit confused by your question regarding "pressing hits in the weak spots". Once we get spears we will be exploring all sorts of things ;) -Reece
I'm really interested to see what you follow up with after tossing your opponent on the ground. He's not out of the fight yet. And likewise I'm interested in what you can do if you're tossed down. Could you someday make a video on that?
Yes, we plan to have a video covering ground work. Interestingly enough, most of the techniques we see from the treatises that are on the ground are in harness. More on that in the future, so stay tuned! ;) -Reece
Stan replying: That's definitely an area worth exploring - I look forward to a video from Reece and Ben on the topic. That said, it's worth noting that the manuscript we're studying in this video, Fior di Battaglia, treats a throw as an end in itself and doesn't say much of anything about what happens after. Thinking in context of combat between knights, typically the guy on the ground would yield to the man who overpowered him rather than have a dagger stuck up his skirt...
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 Well, they pronounced the final "E" more as an "AE", as for the rest of the pronunciation is about as chunky as italian in the Trentintino region, which is still italian, so that's pretty good. 8/10
Just wondering, do you have any advise on where to get a really good cuirass from? Also quite enjoyed the video, I appreciate the video and it's nice to see disability doesn't factor in too much for HEMA. While I have legs I wear orthotic leg braces to correct malformations (which means no armor below the knee for me).
Well, we recommend getting a custom made curiass from a reputable armourer. We'll be covering a video soon enough on various armourers that we recommend, so be sure to stay tuned for that :) I appreciate the kinds words regarding my disability :) I actually make Orthotics for a living, so I know exactly what you're talking about. The best advice I can give you is to study the sources and fundamentals. For example: I often use the push/pull method to help me complete a step with the prothesis, as I rely on advancing and retreating with my good leg (get's tiring real quick), so it helps me complete my step, while remaining more balanced. I plan to create a Channel covering my personal training and methods to help others with disabilities pursue Western Martial Arts. I'll announce it on here sometime in the near future. Keep on the good fight! -Reece
Its an older video so I don't expect an answer, but I would be interested where you guys got your spearheads from? The ones you use at 3:00 My friends and me have been looking for Harnischfechten Spearheads. Most reenactment stuff is too stiff and is missing a thick tip that doesn't slide into a gap.
Mounted Combat!?!? HURAAH! Have you seen that documentary series about mounted combat they made for the mobile game, that sadly got scrapped after one episode? It was good, but sadly they didn't continue it: /watch?v=HpiBoYjg_5Q
I have! Create little video series and it's too bad they canceled it :/ We're teaming up with Stan and Garrison's mentor that specializes in Rossfechten and Bohurt (the mounted combat). Problem is, Ben and I don't have much experience riding, so we need to sort that out first. -Reece
Ok I have got to know, what kind of Helmet does Stan have? To me it looks like an Armet based on the top and back, but I've only seen those kind of visors on Great Bascinets.
Stan's? Pretty accurate as far I can tell. The curiass needs to be dished more, as he expressed in another comment (was his first made piece) but other then that, he's done well with his research :) -Reece
My kit is based on the first quarter of the 15th century. Looking back at this video, my kit looks much less accurate before I added an aventail to my helmet. I've also since polished the black off.
Originally, it had gun bluing but have experimented with adding fat to the steel while hot. Some ppl have speculated that's a process they might have done. Sort of like seasoning your grill. Reece
As cool as all your armor is I think I like Stan's the most now, so shinny, and that helmet looks even more defensive, more holes for vision, and you are not going to be able to slip a dagger into it.
I've always likes, Stan's harness, especially with his Italian Pauldrons. I can say it's extremely difficult to get an opening against his harness while moving around. This is why I like pole axes >:D -Reece
Thanks for thinking so! I quite like it to! I've documented it from several sources and get a lot of flak for it...ppl seem to be really bothered that my armour isn't polished, but a majority of of the viewers seem to agree with you :) -Reece
madman11893, All of our armour is based off of surviving examples. The globose shape is intended to add some space between you and the curiass, if it were to be penetrated. If it's too dished it makes it difficult to cross your arms in front of you. We will do a video covering our harnesses in the near future and we'll explain that a bit more in detail, so stay tuned:) Reece
Stan here: Speaking for myself I agree my cuirass should be bigger in the chest (in fact, it's a cause of discomfort as I'm not able to fully expand my lungs). It was my first and only attempt at making one but it's the next thing I plan to upgrade.
PursuingThe KnightlyArts thank you I'm a learning armor smith and to my knowledge the globose breastplate was more dramaticly round I still have a lot of learning and your videos will be a grate help
Hey brothers, please accept my words of praise and appreciation for a video well done and very appreciated!
We're very glad you enjoyed it! Please let us know what you'd like to see in the future :)
-Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts oh yeah! Could you guys do some work on shield and sword? Or maybe mace techniques?
Maybe, but unfortunately those would be speculation, as no surviving treatises on those weapon systems exists. It would be a experimental archaeology if we were to do something like that...
-Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts I understand. Thank you. That which you do is already terrific anyways!
[CLANKING INTENSIFIES]
I think the camera operator is even in full plate...
It really sounds like he is.
Yeah, I was wearing my harness while filming...I realize I have loud knees :/
-Reece
+PursuingThe KnightlyArts
No, it's absolutely fine! I commend you for going the extra step to be a true medieval cameraman! ;P
mediaeval battles must have been pretty noisy with all that clanking
So rad that Stan and Garrison made the drive up to KC! I miss training with you guys.
Only met those two dudes once but it was a good time!
Ah nothing better than sound of steel clashing in the morning, thanks for making my morning coffee that much better!
Ha! You're very welcome!
-Reece
It's been a bit of a rough day, but as soon as I saw this video in my feed I got a huge smile on my face! Keep it up guys!
Evan, we're glad to have made your day a little better :) Let us know what else you'd like to see in the future!
Reece
These videos are just so engaging and it's easy to comprehend what's going on thanks to your format. I've been trying to think of some constructive criticism but I really can't. You clearly know what you're doing, which is great. :)
P.S: You guys have inspired me to seek out a HEMA school myself. Unfortunately there's no group near me that practices in full harness. However I am part of a Viking re-enactment society (the Glasgow Vikings is my branch), so I do get to enjoy plenty of sparring :)
Potato Synthesis, wow! Thanks for the awesome compliment. That truly means a lot to us...
We're glad to hear we've inspired you to pursue western martial arts! We're currently working on a curriculum so we can travel and teach other groups. So, when you find a group let us know and we'll see about forming a workshop :)
Reece
I can only agree with your comments regarding the video, its one thing to read the manuscripts something else entirely to see it stepped through from multiple angles.
I feel your pain regarding finding a HEMA group who do armored stuff. My local group tends to focus on saber ect.
We definitely encourage ppl to get harness to learn the techniques, but armour isn't necessary to get started. You can learn the techniques, strikes, etc to develop the muscle memory and slowly build up your harness. We'll cover a video on the subject soon, so be sure to stay tuned :)
-Reece
Next time someone ignorantly says western swordsmanship was just flailing around, I can show them this.
Keep up the great work, guys.
Great stuff. I really appreciate the break down - how you show the move from multiple angles. Seems like many, not all, channels that attempt to show attack sequences from the past tend to go either too fast or not show enough. Thanks for all the hard work.
Thanks for thinking so! Our goal was to have people with lots of experience and none at all to follow what was going on with the techniques. Glade to have proved my method worked! :D Be sure to share with your friends and be sure to follow us on FB!
facebook.com/PursuingTheKnightlyArts/
-Reece
Thanks for the kind words! We're very glade you enjoyed it and were able to follow along :)
-Reece
Love that clanking noise! Awesome video, thank you so much
Thanks for the kind words! :)
-Reece
Best TH-cam channel ever!
Thanks! Hope to not let you down!
Reece
If anyone is interested in creating a medieval history-themed Discord server (could be TH-cam channel-themed) please reply below. That goes for you also, Knightly Arts team!
Do you mean a Knightly Arts Discord server? I was actually saying they should make one before, so I'm all for it. Haven't seen many good historical medieval servers on discord.
Hell, I'm down. I can bring my Bolognese sources! Haven't been able to do armored combat het though. Too expensive.
I found this just after reading “The Green Count” by Christian Cameron. The main character, William Gold, uses vera croce in the book. I couldn’t figure out what it looked like. Thanks for this!
Keep up the good work, guys.
Thumbs up!
Valera Valerovich, thank you very much! We will! :)
Reece
Great vid.
Thanks! :D
-Reece
All of you have such fantastic armor. Great work guys.
Thank you very much! I may not be the best martial artist, but at the very least I look good! :P
-Reece
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 I do have a question about your equipment though. I've noticed your breast plates are more flat than other historical examples I have found. Is this intentional, or did they just get made that way?
@@CoffeeSnep , several of us made our armour ourselves, so they're not the best quality/shape. -Reece
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 ah, that makes sense. Well you did a damn good job for making it yourself.
Another inspiring piece of content! Thanks KnightlyArts
Thank you very much! Glade you enjoyed it! :)
-Reece
Once again, awesome video. Easy to understand and great techniques. Always happy to see more of your stuff :)
We appreciate the kinds words! Let us know what else you'd like to see for the future :)
-Reece
Rossfechten is mine and my wife's end goal in HEMA. SO looking forward to seeing that!
We got to play with it before last year, but we did it without harness and tried to get a feel for the horses. Ben and I are looking into taking lessons, but it's really expensive :/ Our main goal is to get involved with jousting as well as the martial art ;)
-Reece
Thanks guys. Easy to follow and informative.
You're very welcome! Glade you enjoyed it! :)
-Reece
I love how you guys sound! Very cool. Keep it up.
Of us talking? Thanks! We'll keep producing more videos! If there is anything you'd like to see, be sure to let us know.
-Reece
Awesome! Have been doing Fiore for a bit and would love to get into the armored plays sometime. Once I can afford a harness...
It's loads of fun! Definitely something to work towards 😁👍-Reece
Great team work, I really enjoy your approach to the study of sword art, as the one of your guests. It's not common to see this aspect of fight, the so called "gioco stretto", which is great! Keep on clanking guys, I follow you from the very first video.
Thanks for your support! Be sure to follow us on FB as well and let us know what you'd like to see for the future ;)
facebook.com/PursuingTheKnightlyArts/
-Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts I'm curios about all the techniques used starting from half-swording guards. I'd also like to see how you would use them against an enemy who it's using a more agile approach, no half-swording I mean, something like pressing hits in the weak spots, not with the gioco stretto for being clear. Oh and more spear...always cool!
Well, Ben and I primarily study the German tradition and they almost always approach the fight with the sword in halfsword. It is the most effective and versatile use of the sword against plate. I'm a bit confused by your question regarding "pressing hits in the weak spots". Once we get spears we will be exploring all sorts of things ;)
-Reece
Great job ,just found out about u guys today ,had to subscribe, luv the stuff ,keep it up.
Andy Wilson, thanks! Be sure to watch everything and give us some feedback! We aim to improve the channel as much as possible 😁-Reece
awesome video guys =D do you intend to do some pollaxe fighting in the future ?
Of course! ;)
PursuingThe KnightlyArts niiiiice =D
Nice to see other amputees in armor! Big ups bros ✌
Thanks! 😁 -Reece
I'm really interested to see what you follow up with after tossing your opponent on the ground. He's not out of the fight yet. And likewise I'm interested in what you can do if you're tossed down. Could you someday make a video on that?
Yes, we plan to have a video covering ground work. Interestingly enough, most of the techniques we see from the treatises that are on the ground are in harness. More on that in the future, so stay tuned! ;)
-Reece
Stan replying: That's definitely an area worth exploring - I look forward to a video from Reece and Ben on the topic. That said, it's worth noting that the manuscript we're studying in this video, Fior di Battaglia, treats a throw as an end in itself and doesn't say much of anything about what happens after. Thinking in context of combat between knights, typically the guy on the ground would yield to the man who overpowered him rather than have a dagger stuck up his skirt...
Me as an italian before watching the video: **PLEASE PRONOUNCE IT RIGHT PLEASE PRONOUNCE IT RIGHT PLEASE PRONOUNCE IT RIGHT**
Did, they?
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 Well, they pronounced the final "E" more as an "AE", as for the rest of the pronunciation is about as chunky as italian in the Trentintino region, which is still italian, so that's pretty good. 8/10
Hey I just found your channel, this was really good, Subbed.
Awesome! Thank you! Be sure to watch the rest of the videos and share with us your thoughts 🙂-Reece
Just wondering, do you have any advise on where to get a really good cuirass from?
Also quite enjoyed the video, I appreciate the video and it's nice to see disability doesn't factor in too much for HEMA. While I have legs I wear orthotic leg braces to correct malformations (which means no armor below the knee for me).
Well, we recommend getting a custom made curiass from a reputable armourer. We'll be covering a video soon enough on various armourers that we recommend, so be sure to stay tuned for that :)
I appreciate the kinds words regarding my disability :) I actually make Orthotics for a living, so I know exactly what you're talking about. The best advice I can give you is to study the sources and fundamentals. For example: I often use the push/pull method to help me complete a step with the prothesis, as I rely on advancing and retreating with my good leg (get's tiring real quick), so it helps me complete my step, while remaining more balanced. I plan to create a Channel covering my personal training and methods to help others with disabilities pursue Western Martial Arts. I'll announce it on here sometime in the near future.
Keep on the good fight!
-Reece
Its an older video so I don't expect an answer, but I would be interested where you guys got your spearheads from? The ones you use at 3:00
My friends and me have been looking for Harnischfechten Spearheads. Most reenactment stuff is too stiff and is missing a thick tip that doesn't slide into a gap.
@@WoofyMcDoodle these belong to Stan and Garrison. They both have worked at darkwood armory and I suspect they are from there. -Reece
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 Awesome thanks a lot.
Mounted Combat!?!? HURAAH! Have you seen that documentary series about mounted combat they made for the mobile game, that sadly got scrapped after one episode? It was good, but sadly they didn't continue it: /watch?v=HpiBoYjg_5Q
I have! Create little video series and it's too bad they canceled it :/ We're teaming up with Stan and Garrison's mentor that specializes in Rossfechten and Bohurt (the mounted combat). Problem is, Ben and I don't have much experience riding, so we need to sort that out first.
-Reece
Ok I have got to know, what kind of Helmet does Stan have? To me it looks like an Armet based on the top and back, but I've only seen those kind of visors on Great Bascinets.
Armoured Productions, it is an Italian armet. The visor is based on some surviving artwork I believe.
Reece
Thanks!
PursuingThe KnightlyArts how accurate is his harness ?
Stan's? Pretty accurate as far I can tell. The curiass needs to be dished more, as he expressed in another comment (was his first made piece) but other then that, he's done well with his research :)
-Reece
Hey the guest with the black breastplate is his kit accurate?
As far as I know, yes.
-Reece
My kit is based on the first quarter of the 15th century. Looking back at this video, my kit looks much less accurate before I added an aventail to my helmet. I've also since polished the black off.
Reece, do you know the process of how your armour has its darker colour?
Originally, it had gun bluing but have experimented with adding fat to the steel while hot. Some ppl have speculated that's a process they might have done. Sort of like seasoning your grill.
Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts Interesting, thank you. Do you know about Garrison's armour as well, perhaps?
I reached out to him and he said it was done with heat after the heat treatment and oil quench. Hope this helps!
-Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts Many thanks! I do appreciate it!
As cool as all your armor is I think I like Stan's the most now, so shinny, and that helmet looks even more defensive, more holes for vision, and you are not going to be able to slip a dagger into it.
I've always likes, Stan's harness, especially with his Italian Pauldrons. I can say it's extremely difficult to get an opening against his harness while moving around. This is why I like pole axes >:D
-Reece
Thanks for thinking so! I quite like it to! I've documented it from several sources and get a lot of flak for it...ppl seem to be really bothered that my armour isn't polished, but a majority of of the viewers seem to agree with you :)
-Reece
Why have you not had a greave with sabaton turned in to a prosthetic leg yet? You can get away with wearing that anywhere!
Your breast plates seam fairly shallow and not so deeply rounded is it just that type of cuirass or did you have them made that wzy
madman11893, All of our armour is based off of surviving examples. The globose shape is intended to add some space between you and the curiass, if it were to be penetrated. If it's too dished it makes it difficult to cross your arms in front of you. We will do a video covering our harnesses in the near future and we'll explain that a bit more in detail, so stay tuned:)
Reece
Stan here: Speaking for myself I agree my cuirass should be bigger in the chest (in fact, it's a cause of discomfort as I'm not able to fully expand my lungs). It was my first and only attempt at making one but it's the next thing I plan to upgrade.
PursuingThe KnightlyArts thank you I'm a learning armor smith and to my knowledge the globose breastplate was more dramaticly round I still have a lot of learning and your videos will be a grate help