Thank you for this lesson. I found listening to the chord versus the perfect fifth to be the most challenging. My ear would hear the third quite prominently and found it harder to pick up the 1 and 5. I hope it will improve with time. I'm optimistic.
That’s not typical! Usually the 1 and 5 are much easier. In my experience, this is a good sign though. You’re hearing the chord member that creates the quality of the chord.
I'm sorry to hear that, you may want to get it here: www.udemy.com/course/flawless-ear-training/?referralCode=4D9B0ABDD354142D4A5E You can also find it on my website at UreMusic.com.
This course seems really good, but I run into a huge issue that I have been running into with all the ear training education I engage with. I simply do not know if my singing is correct or not, I cant hear if my voice is different or the same as the note being played and therefore I cant get any feedback to correct myself. I know I am not tone deaf because I have done a lot of tests and had some mild progress with recognizing intervals in the past. However it seems everyone just has this ability to know when their voice is the same or different to a given pitch. I also had no trouble with the exercises that didnt involve singing and for what its worth I feel like I'm audiating the notes quite well. Not sure what to do as I'm very interested in doing more of the course and I could repeat the lesson exercises again but I'm really getting no feedback for if I'm correct or not when it comes to singing.
This might not be too hard of a fix. Go to a piano/keyboard and play a note. Try to sing below the note and don’t try and hit the actual note just yet. Then, gradually increase your singing pitch until you feel that you have hit the right note. Try and make it go in and out of tune just slightly. Do this for about 5 minutes, 3 times a day and let me know if it helps. I’ll post a video this week showing the process. Might be easier to show than explain.
@@UreMusic Thanks very much, unfortunately just managed to get ill with a very sore throat. Will start that as soon as I am better though! Should I just focus on that and then come back to the course when I'm more comfortable? Or can I do both simultaneously? Also I was just curious if you had any idea how long it normally takes on average to notice some improvements doing this? Thanks again for taking the time to reply, and the explanation of the exercise makes sense from what you described!
@hamishwhyte7399 most people notice a difference in 3-6 weeks, but it doesn’t matter how long it takes. As long as you keep at it, that’s what matters.
That’s a good question. You want to replicate the sound as well as possible, so don’t worry about the note name at all. In fact, avoid the compulsion to identify the note until I tell you to! I’ll clarify this in later lessons too.
This is actually an advanced question. Sometimes, I will tell you to use solfège, so you should do that in those instances. Otherwise, you should audiate a pure sound. If I play a sound on the piano, and ask you to recall it in your mind, then you should replicate the sound in as much detail as possible. If I don’t play anything and simply ask you to audiate a chord or interval, then you should audiate using the sound of your own instrument. I’m going to post a video later and I’ll tag you because this deserves a more in-depth explanation. Short answer: When in doubt, audiate the piano with no syllables.
A fresh, gradual and comprehensive approach to training the ear. While the content is excellent, I can't see myself watching a talking head, with ad interruptions over a long period of time. Would prefer audio files with accompanying pictures (which could be referred to in the audio). For example the first introductory lesson (audio only) could refer the listener to 5 pictures 1 for the C4, C3, G4, G3, 1 for the inclusion of 4 measures per note, 1 for the correct answer to the C4 task etc. These could then be printed (at least the one/s requiring an answer). The audio tapes would be shorter in duration because no time would be spent watching diagrams being drawn on the screen. Audio files would facilitate repeated listenings without frequently using up bandwidth (for those with limited internet usage).
Thank you for your detailed critique. Later lessons are more concise, and the real-time notation is there just to help students who have never notated anything before. It’s to show them how. Later lessons just show the answer. Can’t do much about the ads, but that’s what Patreon.com/uremusic and UreMusic.com are for. You can get the audio ad-free. As for the the pictures, there are a few reasons I don’t do that. It has to do with learning and retention firstly, and second, some people just listen but as you suggest, I could say and show the answer. In the end, the program won’t be suitable for everybody, but I have to do it in the way I know works best from my own experience. Still, I’m going to think on this and see if I can incorporate any of your excellent suggestions. I personally wouldn’t be deterred by a format if the information and training was good, but I understand others might. I’d just say this course will help those who want to take it on.
I love this😊
Thank you, it’s still being developed. Enjoy the process.
Thank you for this lesson. I found listening to the chord versus the perfect fifth to be the most challenging.
My ear would hear the third quite prominently and found it harder to pick up the 1 and 5. I hope it will improve with time.
I'm optimistic.
That’s not typical! Usually the 1 and 5 are much easier. In my experience, this is a good sign though. You’re hearing the chord member that creates the quality of the chord.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
@@UreMusic I'm trying to join the channel to continue with the rest of the course, but TH-cam's payment system is giving me problems : (
I'm sorry to hear that, you may want to get it here: www.udemy.com/course/flawless-ear-training/?referralCode=4D9B0ABDD354142D4A5E
You can also find it on my website at UreMusic.com.
thank you
You're welcome
This describes and details the foundation of being a musician
You’re not wrong. I hope it can be of use to the serious music lover as well.
Very nice course. I am really interested. Tomorrow i am going to do the next one.
Perfect, the real course starts June 1. These are primers. Keep me updated on how you’re progressing!
That was great. Always had a mediocre ear, but you explained it extremely clearly, in a way that was immediately applicable. Thank you.
Really glad to hear it made sense to you. Keep going and let me know how things go for you!
Thank you, I look forward to this.
Hope you enjoy it! Let me know how it goes for you.
This is awesome, thanks for this!
Glad you found it!
Greetings from Bangladesh
@Kevin A.Ure thank you so much these are absolutely amazing exercises !
Razef
You are welcome! I’m grateful I can provide them.
This course seems really good, but I run into a huge issue that I have been running into with all the ear training education I engage with. I simply do not know if my singing is correct or not, I cant hear if my voice is different or the same as the note being played and therefore I cant get any feedback to correct myself. I know I am not tone deaf because I have done a lot of tests and had some mild progress with recognizing intervals in the past. However it seems everyone just has this ability to know when their voice is the same or different to a given pitch. I also had no trouble with the exercises that didnt involve singing and for what its worth I feel like I'm audiating the notes quite well. Not sure what to do as I'm very interested in doing more of the course and I could repeat the lesson exercises again but I'm really getting no feedback for if I'm correct or not when it comes to singing.
This might not be too hard of a fix. Go to a piano/keyboard and play a note. Try to sing below the note and don’t try and hit the actual note just yet. Then, gradually increase your singing pitch until you feel that you have hit the right note. Try and make it go in and out of tune just slightly. Do this for about 5 minutes, 3 times a day and let me know if it helps. I’ll post a video this week showing the process. Might be easier to show than explain.
@@UreMusic Thanks very much, unfortunately just managed to get ill with a very sore throat. Will start that as soon as I am better though! Should I just focus on that and then come back to the course when I'm more comfortable? Or can I do both simultaneously? Also I was just curious if you had any idea how long it normally takes on average to notice some improvements doing this? Thanks again for taking the time to reply, and the explanation of the exercise makes sense from what you described!
@hamishwhyte7399 most people notice a difference in 3-6 weeks, but it doesn’t matter how long it takes. As long as you keep at it, that’s what matters.
This is cool. Thanks Kevin!
When audiating, should we internally sing the letter of the note along with trying to replicate the sound internally?
That’s a good question. You want to replicate the sound as well as possible, so don’t worry about the note name at all. In fact, avoid the compulsion to identify the note until I tell you to! I’ll clarify this in later lessons too.
Great! Thanks for getting back to me.
When audiating should i do audiate the piano sound or just some syllable like la, na or something else?
This is actually an advanced question. Sometimes, I will tell you to use solfège, so you should do that in those instances. Otherwise, you should audiate a pure sound.
If I play a sound on the piano, and ask you to recall it in your mind, then you should replicate the sound in as much detail as possible.
If I don’t play anything and simply ask you to audiate a chord or interval, then you should audiate using the sound of your own instrument.
I’m going to post a video later and I’ll tag you because this deserves a more in-depth explanation.
Short answer: When in doubt, audiate the piano with no syllables.
Here's a video that shows a short example: th-cam.com/users/shorts6EtY9KsdJiw
A fresh, gradual and comprehensive approach to training the ear. While the content is excellent, I can't see myself watching a talking head, with ad interruptions over a long period of time. Would prefer audio files with accompanying pictures (which could be referred to in the audio). For example the first introductory lesson (audio only) could refer the listener to 5 pictures 1 for the C4, C3, G4, G3, 1 for the inclusion of 4 measures per note, 1 for the correct answer to the C4 task etc. These could then be printed (at least the one/s requiring an answer). The audio tapes would be shorter in duration because no time would be spent watching diagrams being drawn on the screen. Audio files would facilitate repeated listenings without frequently using up bandwidth (for those with limited internet usage).
Thank you for your detailed critique. Later lessons are more concise, and the real-time notation is there just to help students who have never notated anything before. It’s to show them how. Later lessons just show the answer.
Can’t do much about the ads, but that’s what Patreon.com/uremusic and UreMusic.com are for. You can get the audio ad-free.
As for the the pictures, there are a few reasons I don’t do that. It has to do with learning and retention firstly, and second, some people just listen but as you suggest, I could say and show the answer.
In the end, the program won’t be suitable for everybody, but I have to do it in the way I know works best from my own experience.
Still, I’m going to think on this and see if I can incorporate any of your excellent suggestions. I personally wouldn’t be deterred by a format if the information and training was good, but I understand others might. I’d just say this course will help those who want to take it on.