Is THIS the new CONSOLE Killer?! Lenovo Thinkstation P520 + RTX 4060
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- For less than $500 the Lenovo Thinkstation P520 plus the RTX 4060 is a budget beast! For $190 I purchased a Lenovo Thinkstation P520 from Ebay and it came with an Intel Xeon W-2135 CPU, 16GB RAM, a 512GB m.2 NVMe SSD and a 900 watt power supply. Plus there are multiple power cables, PCIe lanes, m.2 and RAM slots for further upgrades. With Nvidia's RTX 4060 non ti variant coming at $299 MSRP, the combination of this hardware is less than the cost of an Xbox Series X or a Playstation 5! With the quality and performance of the latest gen consoles this is a tough budget PC to beat.
PC specs:
Lenovo Thinkstation P520
Intel Xeon W-2135
16 GB DDR4 Ram
512 GB SSD
RTX 4060
Be sure to check out my other video where I put an RTX 4060 in a Dell Optiplex! • I tried putting an RTX...
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0:00 Intro
0:25 PC Specs
1:27 GPU Installation
2:16 Benchmarks
4:55 Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
@1:59 the handle with red line marking can be pulled up to let graphic card side bracket fit in, then pressed down to secure the position.
Nice video! As azrael mentioned, the compression on this video is very high. When you capture footage, or export your edits, try to crank up your bitrate a bit. TH-cam automatically compresses videos when uploaded, so low bitrate source footage exponentially gets worse.
Thanks for the feedback. Bitrate was high at time of recording, but I was transferring files between devices and editing programs so something probably got lost in the middle. Still working on this whole editing thing!
Hey man I know you just started and the videos are absolutely awesome! I noticed a lot heavy compression in the gameplay and not too sure if that is TH-cam's fault. If you check the Nvidia Shadowplay settings, you should be able to tweak the bitrate of the recordings. Hope this helps!
Just the gameplay portions? I did record using OBS at a 50000 bitrate, but was transferring files back and forth from devices and different editing programs which probably caused it. Thanks for the feedback!
@@PetesParts16 yeah just the gameplay! Yeah usually the file transferring from a cloud drive sometimes compresses the video from the native recording. Again sorry for being petty and thank you for understanding man!
@@azraelthegod8388 no worries I really appreciate the feedback!
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Thank you so much!!
I have the exact same P520, and I've added around 96GB of ram and P1000 Nvidia pass through to my ESxi Hypervisor. I ran about 12 VM's simultaneously. One is beefed up to 32GB since it ran all docker containers.
I would love to install a newer model such as NVidia 4060 or 4070, but my only concern isn't PCIE 3 negate most of of what the newer GPU models require? All these new GPU need at least a PCie4.
I think you do lose some performance using PCIe 3 vs 4 but from what I’ve read it’s not a huge loss. The bigger concern for folks is the weaker memory bus and Vram compared to last gen
I got a Thinksatation P520 with w-2145, 32gb ram and an RTX 2070. Did so based partly on this video so thanks man. I will eventually get a better GPU but the 2070 holds up just fine. I am tempted to get a 4060 for my Optiplex 7040 MT. I am wondering if undervolting it might help a bit.
Glad I could help inspire you! The 2070 is still a great gpu. Undervolting might help with the 4060 in the Optiplex I would just be careful and make sure to check voltage and temp benchmarks during long gaming sessions.
W-2135 P520 with 32gb ram, 1tb ssd, 1080 ti, added an extra 92mm, 80mm and 40mm noctura fans along with the stock fans. I replaced the CPU cooler with a 110mm Thermalright silver soul and added a second fan on it. Fits fine with the dual fan BUT you need to remove the square handle latch cover on the inside of the door paneI. I removed the mother board to remove the rivets holding the HD case and now I have a massive amount of room. I also cut a viewing window the size of a standard envelope so you can perfectly see my GPU through the acrylic glass. My time spy score is 9140 with a 24 inch monitor using HDR and 180hz refresh rate
That sounds awesome! Do you have any pictures or video of it? Would love to see it. Also what was your CPU score on timespy?
@@PetesParts16 my time spy score was 6954 for the CPU. I know the w-2135 is a big bottle neck and I wish I could overclock it but…. I did post some pictures on Reddit. Let me see what user name I used and I’ll come back and let you know.
13% bottleneck on graphical intense tasks "gaming". For the price point that's not bad at all. And remember you have 12 gb of vram w that 1080 ti. Appears the w 2135 is better w most 8gb vram cards
@@Kevin-vh6nn this build can play anything. It’s a powerhouse if you look at the dollar for dollar aspect but boy oh boy is the tower heavy lol.
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I completely agree, I find the sweet spot to be the w2135 with the rx 6600 for great 1080p and sometimes 1440p
Very little bottleneck, its less than 2%. You can get the rx 6600 new for $190 and as low as $150
2145 cost too much money and you might as well buy the 10400k
2135 holds it own for 90% of gamers
Personally I like the 2667 v4 or 2690 v4 for price to performance
i would replace the rtx 4060 with used rx 6700 xt for the same price
Would be an interesting comparison. I might even compare it to the Rx 6700 10gb in another video
@@PetesParts16 cool, there’s also used RX 5700 XT that’s very cheap and it competes with the rtx 3060 also (i guess 4060 too)
@@PetesParts16 the pc could perform better. the problem is, that the RTX4060 only runs on 8 lanes. this card performs the best with pci.e 4.0. there are better choises to upgrade this pc. a card with 16 lanes and the performance as the 4060 has on pci.e 4.0 should give you more performance in this case. a compaison video would be cool with some other cards with a similar price.
YES but it will still bottleneck in CPU intensive games like RE4 Remake, some stuttering will occur and the GPU will still be stuck at 60% at max. So I just recommend you to make a new PC if you're tight on cash this can work for now but not in the future at all.
@@TotallySearch I use a similar machine to this but with a w-2145 and it definitely doesn't bottleneck a 4060 or 6700 xt. It has no problem keeping my 3070Ti fed to 100% and it rarely goes above 60-70%. My system could handle most or all of a 4080 I bet.
The Lenovo Thinkstation P520 came from the factory with Windows Pro 10 (or 11) installed, so it should "activate" if Win 10 Pro is installed by the end user.
Hi .. thanks for the video ... the 1080 ti also works ? I'm thinking in getting one of these for a budget PC . Thanks in advance
Yes it most certainly would!
Do you need an Ethernet cable for the Wi-Fi? Or can u just connect it? Also is it as simple as just putting in a gpu and an ssd, downloadin windows?
Mine didn’t come with WiFi so I am using Ethernet, but you could add a WiFi card. It also depends on what you choose to have it come with, mine came with everything except for the graphics card so it was the only thing I needed to install. If you wanted to get a barebones P520 and put all of your own components in you could, but for the price it made more sense for me to get one with a CPU, RAM and an SSD already installed. The great thing about these is there is still an upgrade path as well, could always get more RAM, storage and upgrade the cpu/gpu down the line as well.
@@PetesParts16 hey man thanks for the info. I’m just kinda scared I’ll find issues along the way, did u find any issues or did u have to like undervolt the gpu or do anything to fix the issues if u had some?
@@fo30 no I did not have any issues so I didn't need to undervolt or anything.
@@PetesParts16 I'm using a TP-Link external USB AC1300 wifi adapter, works great, high speed and strong reception, even from the opposite end of a big house.
im trying to do this now but i cant find the connector for it - your video jump cuts to the cable already being attached so i cant see where or how you managed to plug it in
Are you talking about the power supply connector for the GPU? Those already came attached to the PSU
@@PetesParts16 I figured it out - there’s a mount on the fan bracket they were attached to just to hold them in place while not being used, I thought they were plugged in but it was just a holder. Pretty much have the same set up thanks to your video, and honestly this is by far the absolute best pc “building” and using experience I have ever had - seriously so in love with this rig thanks for the advice, seriously more people should dive into a p520, aside from being crazy affordable it’s reusing existing equipment so no e-waste
@@MaceValor awesome! glad this video was helpful. It is definitely a great setup for the price
Good video, much better without those sound effects. Keep them coming!
Thank you! Much appreciated
you got yourself a subscriper from the land of Arabia, keep it up 👍
Thank you! Much appreciated
I'm curious how much better it could perform with a 2nd stick of RAM (for dual-channel).
Yes will be interesting to see once I get another stick
25-40% more fps ... single channel is a fps killer
@@PetesParts16 did you get more RAM yet?
@@PetesParts16 The P520 supports 4 channel, not 2 channel, so you need 4 sticks. My P520 should arrive in the next few days, and I have 2 16GB DD4-2066 ECC waiting for it, and I'll get 2 more soon, for a total of 64GB, more than I'll need, but it'll give me that quad channel bonus.
You'll definitely want to get 3 more sticks of what you have or try getting 4 sticks of 2666mhz ram to benefit from quad channel memory. It will really bring this cpu out of its shell and help with your avg fps substantially. It would probably give at least a 20% uplift depending on title and settings. Great video otherwise!
Great tip thanks! I’ve been meaning to upgrade the Ram but have been slow to do so. Will be the next thing I add to this PC
Hey man , Great video. What do you think about a rtx 4070 with Xeon e-5 1650 v4 with 32gb ram for 1440p gaming. Do you think the cpu will bottleneck?
It would probably be fine for the most part, but it will most likely bottleneck. Even the w-2135 can bottleneck the 4060 at times, but it’s not too bad
@@PetesParts16 Thanks for the reply. Do you think downgrading the GPU to rtx 3070 and upgrading the CPU to Ryzen 9 3900x would be better?
@@PetesParts16I just bought a w-2145 p520 for insanely cheap 230$ would it bottleneck a 4080 or 4070. Also would a 4089 even work it needs 3x8 pin. Edit My tv is 4k and I want to play Alan Wake 2 so the extra vram if the 4080 seems good.
What brand of M2 SSd did you use for this build?
I used a Silicon Power 1TB - NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen3x4 2280 SSD
how does it do on performance mode on fortnite? does it ever dip below 144fps on low settings on performance mode?
Yes it will dip below 144fps but runs pretty smooth overall
Any advice when purchasing in eBay when it comes to old pcs?
Mainly just do your research on prices so you don’t overpay. Always a little risk with eBay and used items but I haven’t had any issues thus far. Make sure sellers are reputable and provide money back guarantees as well
If you can find a Lenovo ThinkStation P500 that has the 650W PSU and the Dual PCie power cable (has 6-pin + 8-pin [6+2]) then you can get an even better price. I got a P500 32GB Ram for $100 and it can handle up to a nVidia RTX 3060 or any GPU that uses 300W or less Power Consumption. For an extra $10 I upgraded to a Xeon E5-2643 V3 (6 Core/12 Thread) CPU. So $120 buck, and I already had a nVidia RTX 3060 to put in it. It is a BEAST.
Amazing! I’ll have to check out the P500
Why not do the benchmarks with no DLSS? Dlss is not native rendering
God of War and HZD I turn it off and Elden Ring doesn’t support it, but yes I could do the others. I might make another benchmarking vid with this build
I have bought a graphics card RTX 3060TI . What do you think of the performance with the bag, especially the processor intel xeon w2135
I think you will have great performance with the 3060ti and Xeon w-2135. Give it a shot and let me know the results!
You may as well just get the w-2145. It has much more cache, higher clock speeds and 8 cores instead of 6. It's not that much more money.
Could it be tested, with a RTx GeForce RTX 4060 Low profile? What would be the difference?
You could definitely use the LP version, but not really necessary with this PC since it has plenty of room. The low profile would be better in a small form factor PC, though the 4060 LP looks pretty long so might be tough to fit in some SFFs
Did yours have any noise issues? Mine sounds like a jet taking off.
When I start it up it’s loud, but then it’s fine after that
P520 and a rtx 4080 would that work the rtx 4080 3x8 pin and i got the 2145 so 8/16 core would it still bottleneck a 4080. Im asking because i have a 4k tv and want to play alan wake 2 and cyberpunk with path tracing and im assuming the 16gb of vram will stomp a 4070/4070ti with 12gb but the 3x8 pin for the 4080 conceens me is that supported with that PSU in the Lenovo workstation p520. Edit if its dumb and will bittlneck like crazy would a 4070 be good enough for the above mentioned games.
You would most likely need a sata to 8 pin adapter as well if it requires 3x8 pins since the P520 only supplies 2x8 pins. I think you’d see a little bottleneck with the 2145, but at 4k the GPU would be doing most of the work so you probably wouldn’t notice it
@@PetesParts16 he said I'll need 2 of those 4 pack cables and the adapter that comes in the box with the GPU.
I just picked up a p520 and I want to do a case swap to a standard atx case, you think I’ll run into any issues?
I’ve been curious about this myself. I’ve looked into it a little but never done it. I don’t think getting the motherboard into a case would be an issue, not sure about any proprietary connections though. The one thing that would be an issue is the power supply as that looks proprietary, and I’m not sure if any adapters are out there for it
@@PetesParts16 thanks for the quick response, looks like I’ll give it a shot and see what issues I come across 🤞
@@beefymcnaulty8212 cool! Let me know how it goes, curious to hear what’s possible
Holy sht that’s a pretty good motherboard and power supply
It’s really pretty impressive at that price. You can even get a barebones one off eBay for cheaper and put all your own components in. Lots of room for upgrades down the line too.
@@PetesParts16 I’m thinking about building this for fun now. Thanks!
How was the idle power? I thinking to build this pc with 64gb ddr4 2666, 1tb ram and 3060
I would need to test it, but I would think it is pretty low
@@PetesParts16 Please do it, the P520 is really good bang for the buck PC build but there's little information about them being on idle, heavy, gaming, etc. I appreciate your time and effort!
Is there any issues or errors like I/O or any other?
Yesterday, I bought p520, w2135 32GB quadro p1000 for my nephew. Somebody told me that you have made a mistake and you'll face few irritating and un solved errors with this machine.
Plzzz, guide me how to properly install it's drivers. Your kind info will be so helpful for me. Thanks.
I have not had any issues like that with mine. The only issues I have heard of is sometimes AMD gpu’s don’t work properly but I think those are solvable problems. You should be good to go!
P330 Thinkstation here. Will it fit a 4090 RTX ?
It might physically fit, but you’d need to upgrade other components to get the most use out of it, especially the cpu
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Do all P520s come with that 900w PSU?
I believe so yes
Just FYI the > symbol means "greater than". "> $500" means more expensive than $500, not less.
Oh jeez. Thank you! Fixed it
I use a 4060 in my P710 with dual Xeon e5-2650 v4 's (had a 2060 in it before that). Rock solid gaming system. Compared to my other system which is en i7-12700 I can tell you that there is almost no difference between pcie3 and a pcie4 system. The only downside is that the P710 is one power hungry system. Even a 4060ti is ok in those configs. The gpu is just not bottlenecked. stay away from a 4090 though, there you need a more recent system. the 4090 will go to about 80 percent.
Wow very nice! I’ll have to check out the P710
Exactly though the W-2135 (which is less powerful in theory than the 2650) he has in the video is stuck at 40-60% the whole time. I wouldn't really suggest putting in a high end GPU in these Lenovos because they WILL bottleneck and even though you get 60-80 FPS from the GPU carrying it will stutter sometimes which can be distracting plus the 4060 in this is being held back hard even if it has a lousy 8 GB VRAM.
Does the 520 support a rtx 4080 I got a w-2145 if that helps.
Very interesting.
Glad you think so!
@@PetesParts16I just viewed this a second time, and I am really thinking about doing this.
After I pay off my recent vacation, though.
@@antondovydaitis2261 go for it! It is still my main gaming pc :)
I am watching a P520 with W-2133, 32GB or 64GB RAM, WiFi, Windows 11, DVD, 512GB SSD, AMD Radeon 6450 for $230 or $280.
I'm not yet comfortable with building, and this will run out of the box, so it's worth a bit more money to me. Reliable vendor as well.
Thank you again.
Nice, I have a RTX 3090 Xeon w2155 10 core w 4.5ghz turbo and 128GB DDR4 2400 in mine and it crushes most games at 4k running Ubuntu. The P520 is the new bang for the buck king stealing the title from the HP Z440
Sounds like a great build!
Very nice video lol
Thank you!
Can this handle large excel files?
I haven’t tested anything with large excel files but I can’t imagine it would be an issue
Late to the party - in future please add power consumption from the wall (idle and load) - this will help calculate long term savings :)
Great suggestion! Thanks for that feedback
First of all, great video! Second, that's an absolute STEAL for those specs!
Thank you! Yes this PC is a sleeper for sure
will a i9 10900x work in this?
I believe it has to be a xeon to be compatible with this motherboard
@@PetesParts16 but the x series are LGA 2066
you got the damn rtx 4060 of all things?
What I thought everyone loves this GPU 😆
@@PetesParts16 it’s basically my spare rtx 3050 with sprayed over with flex seal and scribbled the 4060 numbering with crayon on the side
So I keep hearing this computer won't work with any AMD GPUs, anyone get this and try it?
I want to test out a 6700 XT next, which I will probably also do a video on if I can get my hands on one for a decent price.
@@PetesParts16 thank you! I think this PC would make a great pairing with that GPU! The AMD driver overhead being so much more optimized in most games leads me to believe that the slightly dated architecture of the CPU in this PC would get so big benefits. Just a theory. I also just have ALOT of AMD GPUs laying around 😅 so if I could use one in this rig that'd be awesome
I put a 6700xt in my one for my son's b-day present, and it works great! And it was so nice working inside this machine - everything is so well made and there's fancy clamps to hold unused wires. Like flying fist class, but on an old plane :)
@@hankwolfe thank you! That's just what I wanted to hear. Great pairing as well btw!
@@hankwolfe I'm super glad to hear that, since that's what I hope to put in the one I'm about to order.
Good
Thanks
legit question is this worth for 450 euro in 2024
Yes definitely you can play any game with this build at 1080p and most at 1440p. You could save even more on the gpu if you went with something like the RTX 3060 12gb
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but how noisy is it?
Not noisy at all! I don’t hear a thing when I’m using it
512 ram is the limit
Personally I don't really like pre-builts mostly because they lock the bios and it's not very future proof at all. Especially Xeon processors since they will have bottleneck, seeing your benchmarks just proves that it will bottleneck the heck out of the 4060. Not to mention the 900 W 2017 PSU is getting more old each day and will just not turn on soon.
My W-2145 drives my 3070Ti no problem. I would HIGHLY doubt that his 2135 would bottleneck a 4060. These CPUs are quite powerful still. Even the 6 core w-2135 is only about 30% slower than a 13900k in most games. You need a really fast GPU to notice the difference or be running very low settings at 1080p
@@gametime2473I just bought a 2145 Lenovo workstation would a 4080 work it needs 3x8 pin.
@@Spencerwalker21 No idea. I don't have that computer.
@@gametime2473 oh sorry I'll give a couple more details it has a 900 watt PSU with dual 6 plus 2 pin connectors. And would the xeon bottleneck a 4080
@@Spencerwalker21 You will have to look that one up. I haven't used a GPU with 3 8 pins before. I am using a 3070ti. My 2145 xeon isn't bottlenecking my 3070ti but might bottleneck your 4080 at 1080p. That probably won't matter much since you don't buy a 4080 to play games at 1080p anyway. My 3070ti pushes my CPU to about 60% usage maximum. Usually it's hovering around 30% though. I game at 1080p which taxes the CPU most for reference.
Not gonna lie, the performance is worse than x99. Not sure what is Intel doing.
"promosm" 😂
4060 is not a budget and not beast, rather go with used 6800xt for same price if the whole other is second hand...
I have definitely contemplated going AMD, probably a 6700xt though. Would be interesting to compare it with the 4060
I thought you were Justin Trudeau for a second.. Sorry
Nope that’s not me 😂
Dude can't even figure out the lock bar for the card...
I know right what’s wrong with him
First 30 seconds was just extreme cringe. Please don't ever do edits like that again, zoomertubers are the most obnoxious thing on the planet.
Appreciate the feedback 👍
Why you got be so peaky about, let the man do his videos...
Computers have too many downfalls specially, with consul games like they’re certain games that aren’t even available on the PC that you can only get on console. Sorry I’m not gonna give up that for a piece of crap budget PC or any PC.
All good my friend! Thank you for watching