Every Beginner Drywall Mistake I can think of (2/3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- Yup! There are still so many mistakes that can be made. We aren't even halfway done yet!!!
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00:00 Drywall Mistakes
15:54 Good hanger/Great hanger
24:11 Outro - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Ben…all I can say is thank you. It was three years ago when I started to do small drywall jobs. I had no experience prior and made unbelievable mistakes. From having 1/4” gaps of overlap to leaving horrible edges from mudding. Ever since I found your channel, drywall has become my favorite thing to do. You’re patient and an amazing teacher. Thank you!
I agree, I found his channel for other reasons. I had no interest in trying to do drywall again because I had a really bad experience trying to fix a big mess a few years ago in a bathroom remodel. Told myself to give up and hire a professional in the future. It was frustrating because I have been successful in other DIY projects. But I got hooked on his channel for other reasons and I have learned what major mistakes I did in the past. If I have another project that requires me to drywall I will give it another shot thanks to Ben.
Thank You so much for all of your time and effort in making these videos, they have helped tremendously and everytime I watch your videos i feel more confident in my drywall capabilities. Much appreciated and keep up the excellent work. Happy Thanksgiving 2023 to you and your family
Not enough drywall fasteners, clearly. Lmao.
You're awesome, Benjamin, the Human Drywaller-Man.
As a carpenter, I would have shimmed/spacered the whole open studs to meet the old drywall thickness on the left… Then all the drywall meets up without lumps. Would prolly eliminate the hook you mentioned as well. But that’s the guy’s before you job, so I get this solution as well. I just finished a renovation in a 120-year-old house and nothing was standard, plumb, level or square… had to marry a lot of plaster work to drywall and many rooms were totally gutted and had to shim/build out almost everything just to get one seam to butt. Constant problem solving.
That would have been the correct method. He made a huge mistake here!!! Fur it out
It gets me every time that a Carpenter is all about drywall.
;)
That was a funny introduction.
The tips were good.
* hang ceilings first
* not too tight, 1/4 inch disappears like crooks when cops show
* 4 ft is a comfortable working height.
* ensure there is a corner stud, :) or become a drill trickster
* don't be dumb guard the thumb
* careful planning or suffer
There is more but those stood out.
I only hope to remember them when its time for me to drywall.
This is probably the only video where Ben actually does some carpentry lol
Between you and Evan (Honest Carpenter), you guys are legit! Love the real talk, comedy of errors and quality of work you provide! Thanks Ben! Great videos!
I'm doing this full time, got a guy who's taken me on so I'm only 7 months into Dry Lining. But my boss is 20 years in the job n just does the job without explaining a lot of little details. Which I have to learn on my own, your channel has helped me a lot thanks.
Thanks so much for teaching this stuff! I hear people talk non stop about how much they hate drywall, and it's refreshing watching you enjoy what you do. Affer watching a few of your videos and understanding more of how everything works, I really enjoy doing drywall too!
Me eating dinner watching a dude doing work - perfect! You’re so chill Ben!
All the swearing is skillfully edited out.
I can't sleep I'm drinking beer on the couch watching this...got a ceiling I skimmed to sand in the morning.sombeach
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of the cure" - Havent heard that one before but it holds true in all aspects of life.
I really need to start practicing that slide cut. Such a time saver.
Amazing video series, thank you, please.dont stop making them, you are great! excellent camera presence, well spoken, humble, knowledgeable and very photogenic! I really like that you do it wrong intentionally to demonstrate why it is critical to avoid the mistakes.
Have to fix a rough wall in the bathroom. Will be using the level BEFORE I start to see where I need to float it out more. Always learn something new when I watch these videos. You’re a good teacher Ben. Love the humour as well.
Always keep the drywall off the floor.1/2...prevents the bottom of drywall from potential moisture/ mold situations
Got cold shivers down my spine when I saw the router standing bit upwards. An accident waiting to happen. Like the way you explain things and demo them.
I swear I should start sending you a cut of each job with all the knowledge I've got from you. Thank you bro 🤘🏻
My first basement reno had major bowing of the studs, even though I was careful to orient them the same way. While I was shimming the low ones out, I wondered what a real pro would do, it took way too long. Nice work!
Your sense of humor and dedication to your craft really carry through.
@Vancouver Carpenter...Thanks so much for this video series. I have never hung drywall before and I am about to attempt to drywall around my new shower and I'm pretty nervous. I now have a better knowledge of what to look for and how to fix mistakes. PS your humor makes the videos super enjoyable to watch also.
I am just about to hang 2 walls and a section of ceiling in our basement. Your 2 videos provided just the refresher I needed. Maybe I'll only make 3 mistakes. Thanks much
Thank you Ben! We are hanging drywall tomorrow, so thanks for saving me from those mistakes!
Thank you so much for these! I plan on redoing my garage soon, and these have been some amazing videos!
im new to drywall, and i have found your videos the most helpful. your a great teacher. thank you.
OMG! These are the things I’ve wondered about for decades. Thanks so much!!!
even though this video is old....I've been to Vancouver, BC....That garage was water damage for sure... ;) Great city by the way. Thanks for reassuring me that I'm NOT a beginner... I watch your channel to get mudding tips, you're a great drywaller and a good carpenter.
This is such a cool series Ben!
Thanks for sharing your craft. Awesome videos and entertaining as well.
This series is awesome, keep up the good work!
My friend, while teaching me commercial alarm installation, drove a self drilling screw into his thumbnail.
This takes me back.
In a decade of card access, cameras, and alarms I was always careful to have mt hand clear.
Nice tip on checking the wall for inaccuracies Ben and adding that vertical full length shim to make that wall a better look / flow... and Man... you using that drywall screw gun is like an added attachment to your hand... I've never seen a guy use a gun like you... zip zip zip... DONE... nice vid Man...! Lots of good examples showing the mistakes we can run into...! Thanks...!!!
Hey Ben, Love the blood sweat and tears (of laughter) you put into your videos, takes a ton of time to do what you do and we appreciate it! Question, is there a reason you couldn't/didn't remove to old corner bead?
Corner bead removed would have saved half or more of the shim thickness. That is what he should have done.
For all non-native English speakers: Perpendicular | American Dictionary:
At an angle of 90° to another line or surface: Two perpendicular lines form a right angle.
I've learned a lot from your videos, thank you. We just never get to see the finished project. Maybe someday you could revisit some of the homes you've worked on and do a "before and after" video? Would love to see the cabinets after they've been installed in this one, and possible hear from the homeowner. (You should get picked up by HGTV or one of the networks soon!)
No words! How cool is that? If you ever want a tv show for yourself... crazy good! Well actually you have it already
absolute legend mate cheers for all the effort
Dude, I've been doing this for over a decade but today it literally took me 3 hours to do two repairs. One of those if it can go wrong it certainly will sort of days
That's what you want to hear from your contractor - "That's good enough." @4:50
Helpful tip don’t screw factory edge until the next sheet is up against it just tack a few screws it makes for tighter seems and looks cleaner and doesn’t bulge and break the beveled edge
Great advice
great tip about the shims. done it loads on older homes.
Ever use the collated attachment for the drywall drill? Makita, Milwaukee (brand I’ve got) and Hilti have one…curious to know if ever tried and if you like? IMO, gotta get used to and “know how to work them” cuz they can be finicky and jam, misfire, and so on and then it’s just faster to not use at all and go back to normal way 😉
Also find myself pulling out the old corded screw gun when doing a lot of Sheetrock
I love your channel. I've learned a ton. I do have a question about hanging the drywall vertically. I have a small room that is 17x20. If I am not comfortable with taping butt-joints could I just hang the sheets vertically? I plan to also use construction adhesive on my studs as well. Ceilings are only 7'5". Thanks!
dot and dab some glue when doing double layer, especially on older construction. Even a line down the wall on those tricky corners without framing.
on the homeowner to determine if joists stick out, that's funny!
Hi, thanks for the awesome heads up. By the way, what's the advantage to a hatchet head hammer as opposed to a framing hammer or other more conventional tool?
Instead of shimming, would you ever plane down the protruding stud (assuming it's not structural)?
Hey ,question I remodeling my farm house here in Missouri. I gutted the living room removed a bedroom etc. I'm getting ready to do kitchen. How do you feel about a second layer of sheetrock on the ceiling.
Have you recorded a video on using various vinyl drywall parts? end caps, j-beads, for example. When and how to use them
Great video !! Thanks
Again, great tips Ben !!
I have a question.
Regarding orienting your drywall perpendicular to structure, if you have resilient channels or wood strapping horizontally on wall studs, I would think your sheet would then be installed vertically, since the resilient channels are now the "structure" you are attaching to .... ??
Thanks
Terry
Yes, if you have furring strips running horizontally then the drywall needs to be vertical.
I love that the humour is as dry as the walls 🤣
This may be dumb, but could you show how to repair drywall under a finished window? I guess, what do you do with that top joint... just caulk it to the existing casing... or fill it with mud and then caulk? I have to do something like this soon and I am just not sure how to handle that part.
Corner bead removed would have saved at least half the thickness of the shim, or more. Possibly no shim needed. When cabinet guys hang on that wall, there will be plenty of cursing about the humps. Also, 12 foot long horizontal sheet would eliminate that joint and reduce the hump even more.
Yeah, that was a no-brainer.
Good job ...good explanation.....had me concerned at the start...but you pulled it out......i almost always pull the level string at 48 1/2".....and good job with the shim.....ive been there more than once.....an idea on a bowed stud....if bowed. into room...use your circular saw...cut 45degree into stud and nail the 45 slot in....will straighten the stud enough to help
Could you explain the bowed stud tip? I’m not following.
Very helpful…thank you!!
When I was moving some outlets in my 1982 house, I found 4 layers of "over hang" scraps inside most of my wall cavities.
I'm hanging a garage converted to an ADU. It has osb hung vertically on the walls can I hang the drywall vertically (joints staggered from the osb)? It cuts the joints in half.
In New Zealand the plasterboard manufactures under the GIB® Brand. Drywall to you guys is very commonly known down here is simply, at least to the DIY's, gib board. Another very common thing we do is again using the GIB brand install coving to cover the gap between the wall & ceiling. Just a question is it common to do the same or is it more that you fill that gap with mud?
I see a beginer mistake at 6.43 where you mark the stud do that before the sheet ks on the wall measure to the centre of stud and scribe it on the sheet with a pencil and if the stud is out of plumb go and sack the carpenter but if it is just chalk line it so much more efficient and saves time or even better pencil mark on the ceiling and/or floor or just eye it
"Its obvious to the train eyes, Not enough drywall screws"? I am dead 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matt - I have a question for you on a trussed roof and attaching ceiling drywall. I think you know I am getting at regarding the issue of drywall lift on inside corner ceiling joints where they meeting walls as the seasonal changes create movement in the trusses to which the ceiling is attached. Have you ever used drywall clips? these metal clips appear to slide onto the edge of the ceiling drywall and fasten to the wall studs or top plate. Have you used these? I have standard width (okay, a normal width hallway, I don't know what its width is at the moment) hallway of which I am about to replace the ceiling drywall. The hallway run is perpendicular to the truss runs and the trusses are 2' apart. Should I fasten screws to the truss for ceiling drywall and stay a foot away from wall with screws and use these drywall clips? Any more ideas on isolation. Much appreciated. I spent 2 hours watching your videos last night. I am pretty good at drywall for a homeowner and you reinforce small issues that make a big difference. I love you when you have "challenges" on camera and laugh at yourself - too funny. We all have those times.
Who is Matt?
Thank you so much!!!
hello thanks for your vids.. i think your pouch on your right side is great im trying to buy cant find it if you could help... thanks
Fun When you say laying down drywall. Here in Sweden the standard way to hang the drywall vertically. Don't know if I have seen a place so far where it is laying Down. Sure I'm only 20 so I have only worked for ca 2 years now but still that's a lot of places I've been to due to I'm working with waterdamages :/
Hard to judge without being there but in some situations like that I would double tac that last sheet to bring that end out
So confused. Isn’t the hump just there because he drywalled over the end of existing drywall? If it was a clean install where the old was removed there wouldn’t be a hump, right?
uh yeah, i was just thinking that
should have shimmed the existing studs with 1/2 ply or something.
Only if the framing is straight and plumb.
Which may or may not be true.
@@shawnr771 I watched the first video and it wasn't addressed, also noticed later in this video the wall definitely isn't plumb or true. Floating drywall and shimming out the middle may have made it more square.
I am working on my bathroom and had to take out drywall about 3 foot from the floor into a inside corner. What is the best way to repair this? Can you point me to a video? Thanks
curious why you didn't cut out the corner bead (instead of working around it).
I was going to ask the same question. Not only remove the corner bead, but possibly another 6" of the old drywall.
Also my thoughts, cut the drywall on that stud out and you probably drop that difference at the next one down to 1/8 or less. Keeps the whole wall more true to itself
20:35 God I wish that were true. Gotta carry around a box of shims to level out garbage framing all the time, some projects I'll even use the whole box in there alone it's ridiculous
PLEASE HELP: ANYTHING HELPS. I will be installing some melamine cabinets soon and the wall has plywood behind it. My cabinet backing is 3/4 I would assume the sheetrock is 1/2 and plywood 3/4 or maybe half? ANY IDEA on what screws I should use for extra strength any tips help thank you! I usually use 3” screws when I install these sort of cabinets but just the thought of the plywood behind it makes me worried. I know where the studs are behind the sheetrock and plywood but still. I was just thinking of putting Atleast 4 in each section and legs for extra strength TIA!! Anything helps thanks guys!!
At 22:46 one can observe the seldom seen Canadian suffrage dance to the drywall gods.
🤣
So the question I have is could you shim out the four studs to the right that are showing. This would bring the right side of the wall out. I do understand it would be more work, but would it not help when you begin mudding.
That would be the correct way to do it. The walls need to be plumb and square to hang kitchen cabinets. He shouldn’t use ‘carpenter’ as his name. 🤦♂️
Here to watch you mess up a few drywall screws ;)
I’m enjoying your videos! Trying to figure who you sound like. I’ve decided that you sound like a young Adam Corolla😅
When I was pulling baseboard, I noticed the bottom of the drywall was a half inch above the floor line. Someone said that's required by code in case there's a water leak and the gap prevents the drywall from getting wet. I noticed you had a shim underneath that bottom horizontal sheet. Is that's what it was for?
its more for deflection
Good info! I have been framing aprox 30 years, people don't take pride in their work anymore. I've also drywalled & set cabinets behind my own framing & others. People, crown your studs one way when your framing & before drywalling your lid & walls straight edge them! shim accordingly, your job will be SO much better in the end. I'll tell you right now, MOST contractors today absolutely dont give a shit & its all about blow & go to get your check! Totally sad.
To be fair these jobs don't pay nearly as well as they used too. You don't get top quality work for half the price.
Hey Canadian neighbor ... WI here
Having a problem with some rework... whole house has a textured pattern, so long not a problem until in a large room insulation put in and to do so had to cut 3x3' squares.... ok So tried to patch and think I did an acceptable job .. here is questions(2)
Understand a donation to patron would be in order.
Can I send a graphic photo of pattern to see if you could inform me as to how to do it?
The 'final' or 'finish' coat about 1/8 deep has been coming off in large sections/pieces for years so decided to try to fix that also.. however would you have any idea as to why this happened?
Obviously your channel is great IMHO. Thanks
Ben, you can take the rip and set it back on the sheet to use the t square
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I’m gonna have to start using that
this is how I work .Do one sheet after a caffeine fix, take a 3 day break and do another sheet ,beer break,lunch and a nap then go watch some TV ......
That's why I use an adjustable T-square
Thanks again!
I have a shop that has 10 ft walls. Should I still do the horizontal sheets or do I go 10 ft panels and do the sheets vertical?
thank you
Always keep your joints tight, kids 🤣
*Please don't block me from this channel 🤣*
Doing a ton of water damage after hurricane ida the 2 foot around the room cuts gave me ptsd
I'm sure I'm missing the details but why not shim out the bare studs on the right to the level of old drywall on the left that you put a second layer over?
This is exactly what I would do… I’m not a drywaller primarily tho… as a carpenter I would make sure to set up the next guy for success… Or make my job easier if I end up having to do the dryway, because I can’t float humps and seams like Ben can.
That spinning philips head sure does hurt doesn't it. 🤨
Should you remove your screw that went too deep if you put a good screw next to it? And is it a big deal if you ding up the drywall when your drill is set too deep?
At around the 18 minute mark sounds like an important one to remember
Got a question i hope you see, ive been a taper for about 8 years and ive heard it more than once 'boarding is the hard part all you gotta do is put a tape on and wipe it' i do some hanging but not often and never lots. Just wondering what you think takes more skill taping or hanging
It's funny that every trade blames the one before them. :) I was in the Toronto Carpenter's Union and did lots of steel studs, drywall and t-bar ceilings, but not taping because that was a different Union. I respect them all for their abilities but, yes there were times when we had to fix other's mistakes. I'm sure you've had to fix more than a couple of bad boarding jobs with your taping. Thanks for your dedication.
@@rolfschubert1853 no doubt there are bad apples out there and i respect the hell out of good boarders cause ive done it and know its not easy, maybe im just sour cause i was undermined a few times. I respect your efforts aswell. If only everyone treated their trades as a craft and not just a cheque. That said i think taping is a different ball game all together,
Many tapers know how to hang drywall, less drywallers know how to tape.
great video, why not glue the drywall?
Oh god, you mentioned the 2 foot joint from a water restoration.
I really should have just cut the joint in my whole basement, trying to work that low ….horror
How big is the piece/shim you are using at 15:50 that the drywall is sitting on? what is the gap between drywall and floor. im about to do my basement, and Im watching all your videos!
It’s probably just a scrap piece of 1/2” drywall.
Anybody have ny tips on how to find studs behind a wall that has sheetrock and plywood?
Why not remove the corner bead before rocking?
You missed a golden opportunity to ask people to thumbs-up your video when you punctured your thumb with that driver.. Great videos. 👍
For the down cut you could of sat your off cut back on top and you would have solved the problem, even tho it wasn't much of a prob anyway
that house in the building clearly didn't use enough load bearing drywall (if you know you know)
Ben, normally you're spot on but today, I believe you mis-spoke @ 1:48 Maybe I misunderstood, but you said it's better to put the drywall on horizontally to strengthen the wall. It seems you're assuming that drywall has grain direction. The gypsum is equally strong in all directions. I would think that, generally speaking, the drywall that provides the most strength to the wall is the one with the fewest number of pieces on it. Please correct me if this seems inaccurate.
Not sure about interior work but on outside commercial work wall board is hung horizontally over steel studs.
At the corners each vertical joint must be staggered.
According to the American Walls and Ceilings Institute or AWCI.
They help commercial contractors comply with the International Standards Organization (ISO) for best building practices.
@@shawnr771 Interesting. Thanks for posting that.👍
Mate you summed it up, that’s shoddy carpentry work. Unfortunately plasterers and decorators especially have to make good the shoddy work of carpenters And builders and it isn’t right. It really needs to be made a point of to be picked up by the contractor if they’re half decent
Why didn’t you use nail glue to hold the drywall to the studs? I’m installing some inside walls, and our contractor said to use glue too