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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- Second instalment in my Retrospective Series, the Olympus PEN-F, the iconic and now cult classic digital rangefinder styled mirorrless camera. Originall released in 2016, instead of being a digital dinosaur, this tank-built camera is more relevant than ever before. This is backed up by the increasing used prices in recent months. #microfourthirds #olympus #photography
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Spread the words and make this video viral so OM System can see it hahahaha
I even posted it on the rumor site before it went live! Lol! The part where you mounted the PEN-F on the 150-600mm showed at the same time both what once was perfect and now longer is that great with M43s!
There is no need to make it viral 😊
Jimmy if OM haven’t got the message to make a Mk2 by now they never will
Are you suggesting their marketing team is incompetent? 🙂🙂Nothing can help OM
@@maheshg212 😁😂
I enormously agree with this video. Just this year I did the ‘bucket-list’ Africa safari trip of my dreams, and my rig (noting that we were heavily weight-limited as flying light aircraft between camps) was a PEN-F with the two Olympus f/4.0 zooms. Such quality and versatility for its size… and the images I was able to get blew me away. So, I agree. This is not a 2016 camera in 2024. This was a 2024 camera in 2016.
Yes, I have an Olympus PEN-F and you are right that it is an industrial design aesthetic, a work of art.
I totally agree. My local camera store has an used Pen-F in excellent condition for €999 right now. I don't know if I can resist the temptation any longer or if I should wait and see what camera OMDS will release this year... A weather sealed Pen-F II with better High ISO performance would be a no-brainer.
I would wait for what they announce next.
Soon is their third (?) anniversary maybe they let us know what's next. They always launch their new products in February/March.
If I would be you, I would definitely wait.
The PEN F was my dream camera around the time when I got my first good camera (with the money I had I settled for the GX80). Some two years ago I finally had more money and even though I still use and live the GX80, I got myself a PEN F. What can I say except what a camera this is. It brings me so much joy and I wouldn’t trade it in for the world.
Pen-F with the 9-18mm, 20mm f1.4 Pro and the 75mm f1.8 is my current EDC setup, absolutely love it.
That is a killer kit. I would add the 40-150 f4 Pro to it to cover everything.
Many OM ambassadors start to publish video for PENF. From you Jimmy I expected that because you always express your love for this camera, but when I saw the video from Emily Talpin I thought that... NEW PENF is COMING!
I so hope you are correct!
Treated myself to a silver one this year and wow what a joy it is to own - and it don't take a bad photo either!
私もPEN-Fを愛しているし、PEN-FⅡの登場を心待ちにしています！ そしてあなたのPEN-F、とても綺麗！大切に使われている証拠です！！👏
Olympus was cooking in 2016. The PEN-F and the EM-1 Mark II in the same year. Pound for pound, two hall of fame cameras regardless of format.
Can’t agree more with you Jimmy. If OMDS comes out with a Mk II I’ll buy two: one silver and one black! I almost sold my original silver version which I got in London back when it was released in 2016. I’m so very glad I didn’t. It’s a collectors item I’ll treasure forever.
It pairs so well with my small lens collection, of which the 75mm f1.8 has produced quite a few faves for me.
I hope the Mk II version has the same features of the OM-1 Mk II without the huge buffer in a weathersealed body that shares the same form factor of the original.
I agree with you, the PEN-F is also one of my favorite cameras, and I have created several color profiles that mirror the old Fujifilm and Kodak film looks. It's magical!
Hi. Have you shared those settings somewhere online?
I would be interested in those profiles if you could share them somewhere.
Simply the best! It feels so natural to hold and use, I own the Pen F along with a 12mm, 40mm and an adapted D-Vario-Elmar 14-50mm from my old four thirds Lumix ...as a wheelchair bound photographer the size of body and three lenses is all important ....yes it would be a dream come true if there were a Mk2 but I shall not lose sleep as I have total satisfaction from the current Pen F.....one love
Although I was too late to the M4/3 party to fully appreciate the PEN F. At the time they went out of production I was just using my first EM5 mkii and loving it (truth be told I still have it as it became a very used and old friend who had been through so much with me it earned a place in my heart. I now have multiple cameras from Nikon both F and Z mount, Leica, OM and EM versions of the flagship. But since I found my first PEN F in all black it quickly became the only thing I would reach for as a daily driver. In fact I love it so much I had to buy another one (Silver Edition) just in case they became harder to acquire or heaven forbid my first broke down in any way. I have to admit if I ever see another minty black one I will buy a third to ensure my future passion is secure. If there is a New version with the same metal body as the old one and not a polycarbonate cheap rip off of an icon I will be first in line to hand over the cash. Fingers crossed for OM to see sense and they don't mess up what to me is an ICON.
As an Industrial Designer I had to get one when they had been out for a while. Mine is silver, it looks spectacular but feels just as good in the hands. I probably use it more than any other, exclusively with small or medium size primes. I'll never sell it, its brilliant. Pen F II with weather sealing, please! OM Systems will be asleep at the wheel if they don't see the opportunity, there are only so many bird and macro photographers. Travel and lifestyle, OM Systems! And Design!
I agree with you, and I got my Pwn F in 2016, and have no regrets. I,owned the original files Pwn F back in the 60’s and loved that camera. I still use my digital Pen F and after trying the Niko. z 6, I sold Nikon and went back to my Pen F. Great camera, and gray photos.
Cheers
Absolutely a classic. I could also watch you talk about it for two hours. Looking forward to more in your new series
I absolutely love my Pen-F, it's my baby. You can have my other MFT cameras, but I'm keeping this until I die.
Just grabbed mine for 600$, it has @ 20k shutter count and the thumb grip rubber is missing but managed to buy from ebay. I m happy that i found it and i will plan to enjoy many years from now.
My first camera was the EM5 and loved it until the PENF came out. I remember visiting the camera store every couple days to look at it and dreaming about owning one. In the last 8 years I’ve had Leica, Canon, SIGMA, and multiple SONYs, but I still couldn’t stop thinking about the PENF. Finally sold the Leica and bought a PENF in mint condition early this year. It’s going to be buried with me.
You're absolutely right Jimmy. The PEN-F is a masterpiece. I've never owned it but rented it for a couple of times for some trips. I made a black & white custom profile that I liked and I used it to shoot b&w all the time. I was shooting RAW+JPEG to have the RAW files if I wanted to develop them, but I couldn't match the b+w profile from the camera on the computer. There is some amazing film-like grain that I love. I wished to have phase detect AF mostly and then the weather sealing, but I don't know why they didn't continue the series, probably it was not profitable enough. Now the OM System probably does not have enough potential for a new RD but they can use the existing body, just put the OM-1 sensor and processor and it will still be an amazing camera.
If we can think about improvements I wish for better EVF, at least 3.69m dots, a bigger capacity battery, integrated storage will be great and then the weather sealing of course.
I think the main issue with the camera and people not believing in it is the sensor size. I hear this all the time - but the sensor is too small, it's not good enough and they go buy a Fuji or Leica...
I have one and I love it! Yes I would buy a mark ii in a heartbeat!!
I just had to have one, why? Don't know, can't answer why, but it is such a joy to use. It makes me want to go out and use it. I've got OM 1 Mk2 etc, but this is the one that makes me smile when I use it. Tactile, beautiful. Thanks for the video Jimmy
I bought a black version 3 years ago for used 700 when no one wanted it. I love the beauty of this camera.
A Pen-F mkii would be great. Imagine it with the TruePix 10 processor and weather-sealing. Paired with the 20mm f/1.4 ... one can dream. And ya, to your point, even at a $1800-$2000 price point, it's be a a hot seller.
I sold my Pen F & have regretted it ever since. Long story short I bought another used one for way more than I sold my original & I am very happy!
Hi Jimmy, you know how much I love mine. Weather sealing would be nice otherwise it does exactly what I require and I love the retro styling of course and the 20MP sensor is still adequate. :) Cheers Leigh
I have a pen-f, just love it.
Every time I go out with the Pen-f I feel a little special. I think that the monochrome files from the Pen-f look different from those of the Leica Monochrome, but they look just as good.
I would buy a weather sealed Pen-f II blind, whatever the price.
Rumour has it OM still has one camera to release before end of year…Jimmy is this you giving us a strong hint of what it will be? All great points!
It's nice to see high praises for the Pen-F. I was lucky enough to purchase one earlier this year, and in terms of looks and specs, is quite possibly my favourite camera so far. It is so much fun to use as a street shooter, and the choice of lenses for MFT is insane.
Compared to something like the X100 series, I would much rather the Pen-F as it is still a much cheaper option than the X100VI, and coupled with the 17mm f1.8 it is a good alternative with plenty left over for other lenses.
Whether or not I would like to see a Pen-F II? In some ways I am content if it didn't occur because it is nice when a particular model is a one off, but then again with the tech advancement available, I think OM Systems could make something that would absolutely smash Fuji's offerings.
Great video.
Black and white photos from the Pen-f are the best.
Love it! Recently bought the Leica D-Lux 8 but my sentiment lays with Pen-f. For street I will always grap the Pen-f either with the 17mm or 25mm
After this video, prices in the marketplace have gone up another $200, LOL. Thanks for exacerbating my GAS, Jimmy!
I admit I got pen-f because of its outlook, but since then I get more and more in love with this tiny yet capable camera. I had absolutely zero complaint to this camera. Honestly i don't understand why it was not a success when the camera was launched.
At the moment the Panasonic 14mm 2.5 II is almost glued to my Pen F and I really enjoy this compact and tactile setup.
mine is the Lumix 20mm 1.7, not as compact as the 14mm, and the AF motor is loud and slow, but it's more versatile IMHO. Panasonic need to update that lens.
I really like your POV on this. Great stuff here. I also didn't know half of what the Pen-F offered. I now have a few marked to follow on mpb and ebay both. Thank you!
The day OM Sytem announces the Pen-F II I will put my Sony gear on sale to reserve it 😍🤩
The om-F is coming to town.......thanks omds. Its Christmas time
I think that there is pent up demand for a second Pen-F - the prices seem to have been either stable or increasing lately and this clearly means that there is a demand for such a camera. I would like to have one, but really can't afford it. I have the Lumix GX-7 which is no Pen-F, but comes close enough to filling that digital range-finder style camera role that I am genuinely happy with it. At a third to a quarter of the price, it is hard to argue against.
I have 3. 1 silver and 2 black. Yes, I love this camera. To my surprise, I use the silver one more. It’s more classic looking. I bought them used and have been enjoying using them and not thought about selling the second black one. Recently I saw someone on TH-cam who mentioned the recent prices and astounded that selling that second body, I’d recoup what I paid for the remaining bodies I keep. Some sellers were asking above the original MSRP of $1195.00! Astounding. There has been a rise in small form factor cameras.
Thanks a lot. I have a PEN-F and it is gorgeous. A modern Leica M. High iso are not a problem with DxO PureRaw4 and processing raw with a linear profile just make magic pictures. I like to use old screw mount Leica lenses on it.
The biggest weak point of PEN-F is not the lack of weather sealing (evethough it wouldn't hurt), but the side flipping screen. This is a photographer's camera and as such it's screaming for dual tilting screen (DC-S1/1R, X-T2/3/5).
Loving my Pen. Bought new from Park. I now use it exclusively with prime 1.8’s. I use my OMD with the big stuff but love the camera.
I have a Pen-F which I use with the full set of Olympus 1.8 primes from 12mm to 75mm (ok the 12mm is a 2.0). I also have the tiny EZ zoom for situations where I don't want to change lenses.
I love the weight and size of this setup, the results are sharp and noise free (everything goes through DXO PureRAW) the only negative is action shots due to the contrast AF.
For that I used to take my OM1 and big 2.8 zooms, but that was like 5% of my output. So I swapped the OM1 for a ZF with f4 zooms (have always loved my Nikons and your videos on it convinced me) just for the sake of having a FF but I am surprised how dated the Nikon tech feels vs the OM1 viewfinder, IBIS and computational stuff (it does nothing in camera and doesn't shoot very quickly in RAW).
But if I could only keep 1 of the two cameras, it's the Pen F it covers 95% of what I do.
If they released a mk2 with OM1 mk1 guts I'd be all over it, even at OM1 mk1 launch price...
I want it (Pen-F2) to be expensive. 😮 Because I want it to be a legend when it comes out. And I want the first version to be a true B/W camera. No colour sensor. And it should have non stacked sensor, about 25-30 mp, weatherseal, limited edition series (not only one), little better dynamic range, today top IBIS, all possible street photography subject detection, best AF that OMDS can offer. And all those different LOT profiles. A year later, the colour sensor version comes out, still top of the line quality and functions.
Then I also want a budget line of the Pen-F. For regular people. Like a E-PL but with EVF and weather seal. Presented half a year after the top end BW Pen-F. Same sensor to save money, but more budget in manufacturing with visible screws. And different fashon, colours and so on. Make cooperation with high end companies like Ferrari, Apple (god forbidd 😅), Vouge, Gucci, Aston Martin. Alfa Romeo, Saab Aerospace, Bond, Taylor Swift, and so on. Their own versions by design. Make people screem to get a copy. But the first expensive BW version, should be sold limited at least half a year before next versions are presented.
I would love to buy a Ferrari version... Or a military version of the expensive one... 😅😊
Why, only one version in one colour? Make a hype, make dreams. ❤
Hi Jimmy
I am lucky to have both the all black which I brought new and the silver and black which I bought secondhand and converted to infrared. Love them both and will never sell either of them.
Hi Jimmy,
I agree with you, it’s very good en nice and still up to date.
I have my (zilver😉) version always with me as I am out and about, the results are top.
Ton
Got mine back in July this year for 575 euros from a local camera store in mint condition ( very low shutter count ) with everything and an extra original Olympus battery. for 600 euros, I also manage to get a mint 17mm, 25mm and 45mm. Entire set is in mint condition that it eliminates any of my desire to buy a Fujifilm X100V / VI and even Leica CL.
I already tried Kodacrhome 25, Porta 400 and Classic Negative film recipe on this camera. Very happy happy to have this camera. I am also hoping for an improve version.
Yeah, the missing weather sealing is its biggest downside (in my opinion). What makes it stand out from most other digital cameras: A simple, old-style cable release thread in the shutter button, so that I only need to carry one cable release with me for all my analog and digital cameras …
Love my Pen-F and Leica Q2
The Olympus E-P7 got better specs but without the viewfinder. It is also truer to the style of the original film Pen-F.
I've just bought a silver F, got lucky and found one for less than GBP 800 like new in Zurich. Waiting for it to arrive anxiously: it's been my dream camera since 2016 but I couldn't afford it back then.
Where did you get the hot shoe cover and shutter release from!? They're beautiful!
I've had a love hate relationship with mine, but I find myself using it more and more recently. I bought the 75mm 1.8 and it's been glued to it, along with the panny 12-32
They were accessories from Olympus for the PEN cameras.
A search with "Olympus PEN-F Decoration Kit Wooden" can give more details.
I still use mine with the two small primes, in a ThinkTank small case as a go-everywhere camera. Love it. The only thing I’d improve is the AF system. I don’t use the art filters or colour profiles, but often set the front dial to Mono, which gives me a striking sidecar B&W jpeg alongside a regular raw file.
The PenF mark II should aim for even more future tech to be ahead of it’s time again, right? And I don’t know if OMS is capable to deliver. I’d think about computational, but street photography oriented innovations. Like special focus modes for street or setting focus distance from a dial. Or hyperfocal distance. Or taking a picture from an old reference picture and the camera is generating color/bw setting from that sample shot. Maybe based on a color chart card included somewhere in the camera body. Or auto keystone comp based on a 3d sensor.
I had a choice of a brand new X100V immediately upon its release and a used PEN F in mint condition for $775. Because it wasn’t weather sealed and I live in The Capital of Drizzling Gloom, the Fujifilm won out.
Add weather sealing, a Live GND, and the updated sensor/processor and I’d be in.
I just bought one 2 weeks ago, the condition was not perfect and the EVF sensor doesn’t work so I have to use the Function 2 button. I bought a Em1-mk2 in 2016 which I should have bought the Pen F instead. Great little gem!
The PEN-F is indeed a Marmite beast and I enjoy using it.
The sensor is unique to that camera, that sensor was never used on another model. And Live-MOS means it is a Panasonic design even if made by Sony after Panasonic managed to burn down their sensor factory, Oops! Olympus didn't make their own sensors; Kodak (actually Chinon but hey) then Panasonic (Olympus batteries are Panasonic, don't worry they're the best anyway).
LMOS is different to CMOS, the Live-MOS is biassed to sweep stray electrons off the sensor. I find ISO 3200 is as high as I like to go, but the default NR is OTT as usual and wants dropping a notch. At, meh, ISO 8000 I might de-noise, or not; the noise can look pleasantly grainy.
You can keep weather sealing, I never had any problem with film cameras in horrendous weather. The grease can dry up on weather seal O-rings and seals, there's a special Olympus grease for servicing them. Besides, water vapour is a gas and goes straight through weather seals.
Gripe - it wanted a tilt monitor not a flip out for video; if you flip the monitor out try getting your eye on the LVF. It can't really shoot video; well it can but it's limited. Audio quality is good, Olympus are leaders in PCM recording, but no mic-in. The LVF is good but the eyecup can't take any rubber eyecup.
Gripe - no finger grip. A good leather half case with a bulge sorted that.
I inherited a silver one 5 years ago from my dad and it is my favorite tech thing I own. Sometimes I would like to have a black one to be even more stealthy. The shininess of the silver one draws a little bit to much attention from time to time.
Agree 101% Jimmy a great camera I love mine and it would be great if they brought out a new version same format size weather sealing would he nice will they I sadly don't think so but here is hoping. Mine is black as well and don't use as much as I would like you said.
I own one ... and would buy and updated version w/ same iconic styling and add upgraded sensor and water seal and I am all in!
I recently got myself a Pen-F used but mint for a bargain and there's a second one that is tempting my heart.
I am completely melting over this jewel. I have a G9 and GH5 Ii as work horses, but for EDC and hobby, the Pen-F is fantastic.
What I wish is that the camera had more options for the programmable buttons as I wish to use the D-pad directly for focus point selection, but I don't want to reply on the super control panel to change drive mode, etc.
I also get frustrated with the back thumb dial that I have set for ISO selection and I regularly find myself having switched from Auto ISO to 25600. The live view doesn't reliably show that the exposure would be completely nuked. On my Panasonics I can rely on better exposure preview.
Otherwise the Pen-F motivates me to shoot Jpegs and experiment artistically with the filters. It's a lot of fun and a relief for me as I have always shot RAW only for years.
Love my Pen F. A version II upgrade with better AF and EVF would be a Pre Order for me. Add a new 17mm F1.8 and I am in photo heaven. People see my silver Pen F with the 12mm and the fall in love.
I had one was frustrated by the slow focus, it took nice pictures, I have wonderful colorful fall pictures with the 17mm 1.8 lens. Sold it to Buy the OM-1 Mark II
dude, pls make a 2 hour video about the pen-f
Still have my Pen-F. None of the Olympus/OMS cameras since the Pen-F have tempted me, and related to that I haven’t bought an OMS lens for many years. Maybe the release of a Pen-F II would make me look at lenses too.
I always wanted the Pen-F but never had the chance or money to hand, closest I got was a Lumix GX80 which I loved. I since then moved to Fujifilm.
Still using time to time my PenF, it's fun little camera. Leica Q3 would be cool if it adopts PenF color dial for Leica Looks, that would be really fun.
Man-o-man, I either want a Pen f or S9: I would totally get the S9, but after the new 18-40 lens I can’t see many more lenses I would want to get for the system to match that camera size. However with micro 4/3 there are tons of lenses that match perfectly with a Pen f, and I already have a bunch of micro 4/3 lenses
Yes. I have the black version too. How long will it keep the high used price ?
Telling truth 👍🏻
OM System should have got the Mk2 out, the market is hyped-up for these kinda of retro cameras. OM-System should have brought it out with the 20mm f1.4 Pro.
Now, the price will rise even more.
OM Digital Solutions and Panasonic Lumix . Hopefully , both release upgraded models of their respective legendary rangefinders. Olympus Pen-F / Panasonic Lumix GX 9. However, I am not holding my breath 😎
Yes, the Pen-F is a fancy camera. But I can't stand that sideways hinged display. So I got a Pen 7. Same 20 mp sensor, nice tilting display, main switch is on the right (so you can use it just with the right hand), two wheels. But no diplay, not even optional. For me, that Pen 7 is perfect for street photography - and much more.
I also hope they will do a mark ii
OM Systems should copy Leicas approach with the DLux8 and just update the PEN F. Just a few modest improvements to update the camera, new EVF, uSB C and new back LCD and this would sell like hot cakes at any reasonable price under £2k. Surely they could recover their tooling costs if they are interested in making profits for OMS
The Panasonic Gx9 is so under rated compared. The Fuji X and the Pens are so well covered. But the Gx8 and 9 are so under rated.
Panasonic DMC-GX8 is my M43 GOAT. Larger body for my big hands and weather sealed. Discrete enough to considered a tourist camera.
now it cost $1200 in Indonesian second hand market, which is sad... since few years ago, nobody want this camera. for that price, you can get two Lumix GX9, which is for me very similar, if not better.
I have a Pen f, EP 5 and zx 2. Plus a selection of Olympus film cameras. Fan boy? Not really. I use what works!
Right, I own both colour.
What is the Pen F focusing like when using a larger lens.
Did I miss discussion of AF and tracking?
The PEN F is a nice camera but my GX9 is also not so shabby 😉
sadly there won't be the Olympus Pen-F Mark II for now that it is OM System.
In the past, I believed that Olympus was wrong to cancel the Pen F. Time has passed and every day I am more certain.
But I fear that a PEN F Mk II could be watered down and softened and lose its special character and charm. Weatherproof, up-to-date software and sensor, but in largely the same iconic design, that would be it. 😀
Erm ... the PEN-F does have face & eye detection but not as we know it (now). Somewhat old-school but it is there and it works. It can take a moment or two to kick in.
The AF is not the fastest on the planet but obviously the silver PEN-F are faster.
The mark ii will sell...just need the investment from OMDS
I want one, but I’m not allowed to buy any more gear !! 😅
Still think my E-M10 mk 1 trumps it, M10 mk 1 with the Lumix Leica 15mm F1.7 + 25mm F1.4 bohemian Leica Q
Word is OM are struggling to survive, I just wish they would listen to their customers, in a couple of days Fuji are releasing the x-m5, it's a safe bet that this will be in demand, OM please take note.
I also see world renowned wildlife photographer Andy Rouse has ditched OM for Sony because his agents are demanding larger file sizes, who's next.
This isn't rocket science, OMDS. The Pen-F ii would be a slam dunk. Get on it.
It cannot beat a leica m, nope. But designwise it is masterpiece. I love the concept but at release it had two major flaws which killed it to a degree. First, no weather sealing and second a relative sluggish AF. If it would had been internally the same as the EM1 MKII and would also had those FW updates the it would have been an absolute legend. Olympus missed the boat on this one, same as on the EM1X
A MKII version baste on the OM1 MKII (due to the Human AI, not the other AIs)…. That would sell like hot cakes…
唉….
其實Olympus 出番一部一模一樣就得
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大把人狗衝
Olympus 又有得較 curve 又有color simulation 之類
啲功能對比而家新機一啲都唔失禮
根本係佢地marketing 唔識sell
而家啲靚既機仔炒得好勁, 再出番一定大把人買，拎黎做vlog 機都好啦
I have the cheap successor, EP7
Well it was a HUGE mistake to not make this camera weather sealed, yet selling it at a price level as if it were a professional camera. Intended for street photography, yet not weather sealed? Come on. Olympus deserved their decline.
OMS is just going to ignore you. Ignore their loyal customers. They are to busy chasing birds and macro mushrooms. But as long as they keep the OM5 line I’ll stick with them for my work even though they don’t care about my loyalty.