The Faith of Christ is Paul's label for this thing we do and it means trusting in the Jesus walk as the way to life by doing it, trusting in the way that Jesus did it and doing it surrendering ourselves to him so that Christ in us operates this body of flesh and not us because he knows the way to life.
Yes and Christ in us, he lives his life in us and keeps us from falling and falling is sin... He keeps us from sinning including keeping the 4th commandment.. because the Trinity is connected to Sunday sacredness..
If we love him we keep his commandments... Here is the patience of the saints here are those that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus..m
@@TheTrinityDelusion well tell me which commandments it's referring to.. there are only 10 written on stone with God's own finger...Revelation 14:12-20 King James Version 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus
I agree Brother Kel they as protestants think they have Faith because they believe in God by their own Free Will or like you said they have Faith in their own Faith and they deceive themselves. They also have their Faith in their own theology and their Churchmanship or Church Ministry
Paul’s use of that phrase reinforces in my heart that salvation is the work of God. Our lord Jesus had faith to the death, for the joy set before him. That faith of Christ saves us. “…For what if some disbelieve? Will not their unbelief nullify the faithfulness of God?” Never! Many like to add “yeah, BUT” and then list many verses about obedience or things we must do “to be saved”. It is cognitive dissonance in their thinking because religion teaches we must do certain works to please God. May this message help many to see the beauty of the work of Christs faith as written in Psalm 62, “My soul waits in silence for God alone; From Him comes my salvation.” Bless you brother. Lawrence
@@johndevisser903 Hi John, I agree with the first part, "When you have faith in your Lord, you listen to your Lord and you do as he says." That is God drawing us into Himself. Because man is still in the flesh and has the death nature pushing on him (as Paul lamented), we may not always listen and obey; like a child we rebel. I trust that my Father God knows exactly how to discipline us to come into obedience from the heart. Grace be with you!
Amen. It's good that you brought up the synonym for "Faith of Christ". There's alot of synonyms in the Scriptures that are supposed to make things easier, but we have a tendency to make it harder. "through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the OBEDIENCE OF FAITH for the sake of his name among all the nations," - Romans 1.5 "7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:" - 2 Thessalonians 1.7-8
What role does Jesus Christ play in God's plan of salvation? What does faith in Jesus Christ really mean? Who was Jesus Christ before his self-abasement two thousand years ago, according to the words of the apostle Paul? Galatians 3,26-29 26 For ye are all the children of God b y f a i t h i n C h r i s t J e s u s . 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are a l l o n e i n C h r i s t J e s u s . 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Philippians 2,5-11 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e : 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
@@MR-gx3gc "What role does Jesus Christ play in God's plan of salvation?" John 3:16, John 20:31 "What does faith in Jesus Christ really mean?" Being baptized into Christ, and receiving the faith delivered unto us. "Who was Jesus Christ before his self-abasement two thousand years ago, according to the words of the apostle Paul?" Philippians 2:5 begins Jesus Christ who humbles himself. What do you mean what was he "before his self-abasement"?
@@joseph906 Philippians 2,5-11 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God: ======================================= 7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and t o o k u p o n h i m t h e f o r m o f a s e r v a n t , a n d w a s m a d e i n t h e l i k e n e s s o f m e n : ================================================================================== 8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e : 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
@@joseph906 What Holy Secret, which God Himself had kept secret from the prophets of the pre-Christian era, was fully revealed to the apostle Paul two thousand years ago? Who took upon himself the voluntary sacrificial death for mankind? God Himself or a creature created by Him for this purpose? As is well known, a third option is out of the question. Romans 16,25-28 25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to m y g o s p e l , and the p r e a c h i n g o f J e s u s C h r i s t , according to the revelation of the mystery, which w a s k e p t s e c r e t s i n c e t h e w o r l d b e g a n , 26 B ut n o w i s m a d e m a n i f e s t , and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Ephesians 3,7-12 7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. 8Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is t h i s g r a c e g i v e n , that I should preach among the Gentiles the u n s e a r c h a b l e r i c h e s o f C h r i s t; 9And to make a l l m e n s e e what is the fellowship of the mystery, w h i c h f r o m t h e b e g i n n i n g o f t h e w o r l d h a t h b e e n h id i n Go d , who created all things by Jesus Christ: 10 T o t h e i n t e n t t h a t n o w u nto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might b e k n o w n by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 11According to the e t e r n a l p u r p o s e w h i ch h e p u r p o s e d i n C h r i s t J e s u s our Lord: 12In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.
It's really quite simple. It's trusting in the way of Christ, trusting in the Jesus way, the way he did it, to walk just as he walked being led by Christ in us.
Thank you. I'd like to sometime (even if it is part time of a long series (i.e. every once in a while rotated into the topics you share) on the various ties and extractions from baptism... I think off the top of my head, Israel crossing the Red Sea for example. You mentioning it has given me much to think on. Blessings and drive safely.
@@TheTrinityDelusion “Follow me even as I follow Jesus.” In submission we are the way truth and life bringing salvation and restoration to those who hear the Father and our Lord through us. “He who receives the one I send…”
Being in a perpetual state of *_unlearning_* old, relative truths and learning new, relative truths, is getting easier and easier. This makes so much sense. The ancient teachings of Adam Kadmon (spirit in the Image of God) becoming Adam Ha-Rishon (shards of spiritual light wrapped in flesh). And the *_FIRST shard of Light_* to return to Heaven was the one known to us as Jesus Christ (John 3.13). He has claimed the Right to be the Head of the New Body, and we, as members of the Body of the Church of Christ, must give up our individual, *_separate,_* and false ego selves, to become actual parts of the Whole Body of Christ, no longer following what we want to do, but doing what Christ wants to do with his body -- the Original Son of God, purified in the Dark Fire of physical reality -- by *_Free Will Choice._* 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
This is the understanding of Jude. Many people believe it is about doctrine but it is about faith (full submission and surrender to the perfect will knowing you will receive the promise.). Increase our faith… help our unbelief. Contend for your own faith. Fight for the strength to walk in the anointing. In verse 5 of Jude it gives the understanding that those who perished were because of unbelief.
I wish Kel would answer my questions. They are sincere. That is the thing that is missing - being able to ask a question so there is more understanding. I thought we had God's spirit to help us. ajc
Part of the difficulty with language involves a concept similar to the order of precedence in mathematics. Using parentheses, we can change the meaning of "faith in Christ." (faith in) Christ -- is an act *_toward_* Christ as the object (or target) of our action ("faith in"). faith (in Christ) -- is an act we do while residing within the body of Christ. Completely different meaning. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
Righteousness through faith is attained by walking as Jesus walked by doing what he heard in his spirit. Mortifying his Adamic nature by the Spirit and not by works of the Law. The way to die to your Adamic nature is not by doing the law, because it's not capable to change our inner man, but faith is what changes our hearts and makes us obedient to God. In faith there's hope which keeps us going even in hard times. Faith alone doesn't save, faith enables us to press on and to reach the destination where we can get a crown of eternal life. Conversion moment is a bliss because we've been washed white as snow and the Light which filled when we were immersed into the Holy Spirit was something undescribable. But this is only a START LINE. We must run according to the rules until we get into the place of being in this conversion moment constantly. Paul says "I die daily.." If he's dead he has no need to die again. We must mortify what is left of our old man until we are totally dead and in us there's not even a bit of rebellion left against God. Look what Paul says 1Cor 4:4: "I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me." He reached a point in his life where he looked at himself and didn't see what needs to be fixed but even then he knew that he is not saved until God says that he is. Our faith must be pleasant to God. 2Cor 5:9: "So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him."
Hello brother Kel, I would like to hear about water baptism. If possible, please share how one can interact with you in writing? I have a few verses that troubles me like 1 Peter 3
Wonderful teaching Kel, thank u. What about woman in Christ Jesus, been told women r for men, men has Christ Jesus, an Christ Jesus has God his father.
This is what annoyed me about Christians when I went to church. Whenever they talked about faith in Christ, it was like this weird moving target I could never put my finger on. Their explanations were nothing but circular definitions. And when I pressed them about it, they accused me of having a carnal mind. Saying flesh can not inherit the kingdom, and that's why I'm not able to understand. Because 'according to them' I was a man of flesh still. Most frustrating experience ever In churches.
who is the father of lies? a bad angel? a fallen angel? led by the spirit of christ or the spirit of god? and I don't get how we can walk the way jesus walked or even suffer as he did????
Shalom! John 1:1 reads: "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God". Christian orthodoxy holds that the "three Persons of the Trinity", ie: "the Father", "the Son" and "the Holy Spirit", are coequal, coeternal & consubstantial, maintaining in the meantime that "the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" are "three distinct Persons". In addition, mainstream Christian apologists insist that the term "Word or Logos" in John's prologue means "the Son ie. the Christ", but they also agree that the term "God" in its first occurrence therein means "The Father". If we are to abide by the rules of grammar, avoiding any presupposed doctrinal reading into the text, the passage would through a substitution process read or mean: "In the beginning was the Son, and the Son was with the Father, and the Son was the Father", which would utterly shatter the trinity doctrine.
Are we saved by our ability to surrender to the Spirit of Christ? Does it not require the impartation of the faith of Christ to begin with, by the grace and will of God, to make us sufficient for such a task? (See 2Cor3:6 & Col1:12) We must acknowledge the source of our coming to the knowledge of the glorious differences between the faith OF Christ, or, literally, Jesus Christ's faith, and the faith IN Christ. To God be the glory
2 Corinthians 3:4-6 CLV(i) 4 Now such is the confidence we have through Christ toward God 5 (not that we are competent of ourselves, to reckon anything as of ourselves, but our competency is of God), 6 Who also makes us competent dispensers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the spirit, for the letter is killing, yet the spirit is vivifying." Colossians 1:9-13 CLV(i) 9 Therefore we also, from the day on which we hear, do not cease praying for you and requesting that you may be filled full with the realization of His will, in all wisdom and spiritual understanding, 10 you to walk worthily of the Lord for all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and growing in the realization of God;" 11 being endued with all power, in accord with the might of His glory, for all endurance and patience with joy;" 12 at the same time giving thanks to the Father, Who makes you competent for a part of the allotment of the saints, in light, 13 Who rescues us out of the jurisdiction of Darkness, and transports us into the kingdom of the Son of His love
If we come to the conclusion that there is "differences" in these terms then we must at one point make the leap and say "in" really means "towards". Which puts all the "in Christ" verses of Paul into question.
@joseph906 We must not throw out the baby with the bath water. There are times when the proposition [g1722.en] translated "in" is in the actual inspired passage. This is the case in Gal3:26. Faith in Christ is the conduit by which we are sons of God. But make no mistake, this faith is not of ourselves. The problem comes when there is no proposition [g1722.en] translated "in" written in the text. Two great examples are found in Rom3:22 & Gal2:20. In both instances, translations containing the phrase "in Christ" replaces the achievement of Christ with our own. Compare a few of the translations for yourself and see if the glory goes to Christ or to the "believer?" Rom3:22 declares the righteousness of God apart from law is manifest through Jesus Christ's faith. This is the engine moving the train. None of the box cars are contributing.
I agree with everything the brother said here but would like to add an additional thought. The biblical definition of faith is found in Hebrews 11:1 - “1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” RSB According to the biblical definition of faith, the “faith of Yahshua” indicates he is not the Father, as his faith is in someone or something he does not control or he has not seen before: Romans 3:22 - “22 Even the righteousness of Elohim which is by faith of Yahshua Messiah unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:” RSB Galatians 2:16 - “16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Yahshua Messiah, even we have believed in Yahshua Messiah, that we might be justified by the faith of Messiah, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.” RSB Galatians 2:20 - “20 I am impaled with Messiah: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Messiah liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of Yahweh, who loved me, and gave himself for me.” RSB Philippians 3:9 - “9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Messiah, the righteousness which is of Yahweh by faith:” RSB Notes to myself: The faith of Yahshua disproves the notion of the trinity, as Yahshua had faith in things hoped for and in things not yet seen. Like us, Yahshua had to trust in things he had never seen or experienced before (2 Cor. 5:7). Examples: Death, the resurrection, and receiving the rewards he was promised are all things Yahshua had to overcome by faith. The faith of Yahshua caused him to follow the way of life and truth that he was taught by his Father, and it is his faith that directly leads to a path of salvation for us. Another verse that refers to the faith of Yahshua without stating directly it is Yahshua: Ephesians 2:8-9 - “8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of Yahweh: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.” RSB Note to myself: Notice in the above scripture, we are saved by faith that is not of ourselves. This faith is the same “faith of Yahshua” we see in various other scriptures like Romans 3:22, Galatians 2:16,20 and Philippians 3:9.
This video is a little confusing to me. We live our lives aware of God because we follow and are aware of him thru his spirit. I don't even know what taking up the cross means. I think Jesus came to make us aware who God is and how to depend on him.
Men under the Law had to do what Moses says by their own efforts. Those in Christ remove themselves from the equation and allow only Christ himself to pilot their bodies of flesh.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Amen. I really want Him to be my "pilot". But unfortunately there's still the presence of some resistance in my nature of a stubborn "Jew"...and also only God knows what else
@@TheTrinityDelusion I agree and also point to Romans 2:12-29 & 3:31 kjv. We know Jesus was and is perfect in the laws, statues and commandments. Faith comes First and by Faith we follow the Lord.
How could you spend "several years" studying water baptism? You can get a bachelor degree in that time. 1 more year you could have a law degree. Water baptism is not that in depth. I welcome your reply.
First, I work for a living and did spend all day studying like you would for a degree. This was done in my spare time. Second, I explained in this video that it ballooned to involve just about every doctrine of Christianity and those issues needed to be all studied and evaluated to get the right answer to baptism so I had to study and re-evaluate those doctrines as well. It ending up being a thorough study of 90% of the doctrines in Christianity. Third, there is way more to explore concerning this question than most people realize. To claim water baptism is not that in depth shows that you probably have a very superficial understanding.
My "superficial understading" is that water baptism is not mentioned that often in God's word and it's certainly not a "doctrine" as you claim. Whether or not someone is baptised in water does not decide their eternal destiny, I'd like to see if you can provide scripture and versre to prove otherwise. The term "born again" actually translates to "born from above" if you would like to look that one up in the greek. Being submereged in water and coming up out of it is symbolic of the old flesh man being put to death and the new creation that is "born from above" as being dominant over former flesh driven man, no longer having to be ruled by the desires of the 5 senses. The word says that unless a man has been born from above (his spirit being renewed to the spirit of God) he shall not enter into the kingdom (reign) of God. The reign of God means that the man born from above puts the word and commandments of God before his own and obeys the commands of the Lord, denying his own fleshly desires and allowing the word of God to dictate his actions. When asked "Master, what must I do to be saved?" The Lord did not reply that he must be baptised in water. He replied that unless a man is born of water i.e. the water breaking in the womb at birth and then born (again) from above, he cannot enter into the kingdom (reign) of God. This is my superficial understanding. I do appreciate your studies and I thank you for your exposition of the trinity delusion. It never really made any sense to me and your teachings helped me to understand the truth on the matter. Many thanks, and God bless. @@TheTrinityDelusion
If you think of Jesus as God you don’t think of him as a person who has faith , because he’s God. When jesus cursed the fig tree Peter came and told him about it that it really happend: Jesus didn’t say : yeah that’s because I’m the son of God , I can do these things . He began to speak to Peter about having faith , and Peter could do the same as he did .Jesus used his faith cursing the fig tree . mark 11:22. ( also faith OF God ) Jesus needed faith to do miracles. Jesus needed faith to live the life that he did. Jesus needed faith to lay down his life for the brethren . The Faith that God his father would raise him up from the dead. Hè entrusted his whole life to his father. That’s faith. We need the same faith OF Christ . To entrust our whole life unto him. What means dying to your self ( just as Jesus did ) Which is the hardest thing one can do , you can’t deny yourself if you don’t trust the one who is taking over. But it takes faith .
It is the faith of Jesus we need for salvation. Something religion can never give us. Faith about Jesus, faith in Jesus yes, but the faith of Jesus no! Jesus calls His people out of religion because we can never grow to spiritual maturity in Christ because we remain dependent on our 'mother' (religious system we grow up in) and 'father' (religious leaders). Staying immature children. Jesus calls us out of Babylon, leads us out of the sheepsfold where wolves enter in and outside the camp of manmade religion where we suffer with him but grow to the spiritual maturity intended for us.
Good points. The way, or the faith of Christ is not Christianity. It's comparing truly denying yourself and surrendering to Christ with a religion and religious system of man. Christianity is of the world and not of God wich is proven throughout scriptures aswell as through the so called church history.
Hi Bardo, Yes religious methods are not walking by the power of God but the weakness of men, There is no greater power than walking by the love of God our Father just as Jesus did. The devil fears nothing more. He is at war with the children of God and it is the immense power of God's love in them and by which they walk which concerns him more than anything.
Listen to this over and over even tho it is 10 months old. Like it. Is there really a satan or does it just mean adversary (human or otherwise). And why would God let him hurt us so much. Is it not God's spirit not christ as he was just like us human. We follow the spirit of God. I understand the demon thing and believe they are real. But when Jesus said get behind me satan did he mean get behind me adversary. Does being saved mean delivered instead of the heaven thing. think about it
Many are mistakenly trusting in "by faith alone" for their salvation (which is an erroneous concept) RATHER then trusting in and having "the faith of Christ", which is an example to us of obedience (a faith that produces obedience is a saving faith). . the false doctrine of "by faith alone" is unscriptural and leads many astray misplacing their hope and trust in a concept.. side note as to why baptism also has no real meaning to them
Many have faith boiled down to thinking in their heads that a few propositions about Jesus are true, and if they do, they are eternally saved. It's like they think they correctly answered TRUE to a True and False question about Jesus and that's why they are eternally saved. It's complete madness.
The faith 'of' Christ is pretty much self explanatory. When I say the car 'of' my neighbor or the job 'of' my uncle, there is no one that doesn't understand that I talk about the car my neighbor has and about the job wich my uncle has.. .. but when I say the faith 'of' Christ even the so called scholars and theologians don't understand what it means. It's nothing more than a twisted and rebellious mind at work. Logic, common sense and honesty disappear when man follows the thing of wich he desires it to be true, instead of actually hungering for truth. Your mind is already set on what you want to be true so, everything on the road wich blocks your beliefs will be twisted to fit the own corrupted narrative.
@@Mathew-o5j2u Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
With all due respect, you're making WAY too much out of the word "of". SOMETIMES, "faith of" means the faith somebody had (like in Romans 4 when it talks about the faith of Abraham), but most other times it means the same as "faith in", like in an early chapter in Romans when it says the "faith of God" (which is contrasted with unbelief and thus amounts to the same thing as belief in). When you think about it, having faith of something usually defaults to meaning the same thing as believing in whatever that thing (or person) is. In places like Romans 3 the two are used interchangeably in translations that put the "of" there, so they refer to the same thing. It's also worth noting that many of the passages you cite that say "of Christ" don't even have a preposition in the Greek that "of" is translated from, so it largely conjectural as to what English preposition to put there to begin with, thus making your certainty of the word "of" carrying this great meaning rest on uncertain ground at best. To look at "of" as proof of faith being equivalent to a walk or anything like that is to miss the forest for the trees. People look at things like "faith of" along with what it says in Romans 4 about following in the footsteps of Abraham, and they automatically read exemplarist or works-related ideas into these passages when panning out and looking at the bigger picture will show such understandings to be the actual erroneous ones that aren't in line with the text. It wouldn't even make sense for belief or faith to be equivalent to "doing" given how faith and good works are so clearly contrasted in places like James 2. True faith does result in a changed life, but they're not one and the same. Finally, the idea that "faith in" only refers to what somebody does once they're in Christ is false...John 1 talks about people who believe being given the right to become children of God (which shows that faith amounts to something they exhibit BEFORE being in Christ), and Romans 3 says that faith in Christ is how the propitiation of sins is received (again, an initial thing somebody experiences before being "in Christ"). In trying to do your own research you seem to have fallen down the rabbit hole quite a ways. I could discuss this in much more depth that I already have here but I think I've typed enough for now.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Solely or not, it's a central part of your premise as you contrast it with "faith in", and it's a shaky ground at best. If you look at the passages where "faith of" is present, there aren't actually any prepositions in the Greek that "of" is translated from, so it's erroneous to say that Paul says "faith of" given that any preposition put there is conjectural on the part of the translators. It's just as likely that "faith in" was the idea on Paul's mind as "faith of" was. Plus, like I pointed out, "faith of" something often just means having faith toward something or someone, so there are too many layers of ambiguity here for you to speak with any sort of certainty. To conflate faith and doing like you have is wrong. Faith leads to doing, but they're not the same thing. The Bible consistently differentiates between them, and there's no amount of other material from the Bible that can be used to show otherwise. Christ was indeed an example, but the reason that faith justifies isn't just down to its moral transformative effects; it's a big part of how we receive forgiveness of sins as pointed out in Romans 3:25 and other passages.
@@GamingDrummer89 "Solely or not, it's a central part of your premise" Not it's not. It's based on an analysis of how Paul uses this language throughout his letters
Language like "the faith of Christ" or "the faith" or "the faith of Jesus Christ" etc. etc. The context of these expressions show us what he means by them.
In the meantime I have been watching many of your videos-posts on this channel. Howewer apart from your constant criticism of the Trinity, I have not been able to find a clear statement on this elementary question in any of your numerous contributions. I would like to emphasize that I too am aware that the Apostles declared faith in Jesus Christ and not the faith in the Trinity to be necessary for salvation. (Galatians 3:24-29). Which Jesus do you believe in?
The Apostle Paul, whom you rightly quote several times in your current video contribution, warned against preachers who were already preaching a "different Jesus" than he did. (2 Corinthians 11:1-5). Who humbled himself two thousand years ago to become a human being? God himself, a secondary god or an angel or a heavenly creature such as the Archangel Michael? Philippians 2,5-11 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e : 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
What role does Jesus Christ play in God's plan of salvation? What does faith in Jesus Christ really mean? Who was Jesus Christ before his self-abasement two thousand years ago, according to the words of the apostle Paul? Galatians 3,26-29 26 For ye are all the children of God b y f a i t h i n C h r i s t J e s u s . 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are a l l o n e i n C h r i s t J e s u s . 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Philippians 2,5-11 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e : 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Here's another one. "His redemption is with Him." His redemption... Not your's, nor mine or anyone else's. His .... What are your thoughts brother? And as far as the Trinity goes... It's 3in1 right? That's 4. Father, Spirit, Son & Ghost. Contrary to popular belief The Spirit and Ghost are not the same person. Just like The Father and Son are not the same person. Ones a product of the other. Kind of like a nuclear family don't you think? Love Paul and his submissive and kneeling heart. He had it much harder than the others. Sadly the twelve had to save him and hide him from the crowds. Shortly before they all parted. I love 'em all really. Even the apostles to the apostles. Who am I kidding they all had it bad. 😞 Still they continued unto death... And that gives me hope.
If Jesus is the way and Jesus kept the law perfectly as God intended and Jesus showed us how to do so, then why does Paul say the law Jesus followed and showed us how to perfect has been removed and we are not to do as Jesus did by observing the 4th commandment and that we can eat swine flesh..we can even eat food that has been sacrificed to an idol if we want according to Paul. I’m trying to understand and I see a contrast between Paul vs Jesus. I don’t want to be the one Peter says twists Paul’s words to my destruction. I just want to understand. All I know is Jesus is the way. It doesn’t say Paul is the way. But Paul’s letters definitely show that he gave his life to Christ. So then there was a change with the law? An abolishment of it and that came to pass in 70AD when the temple was destroyed? “The end of the age”?
The way of Christ (how he walked) is a much higher moral standard than the Law. Paul followed the way of Christ. God is love and the way of Christ is the way of God and His love. Follow Jesus and you have nothing to worry about. That's what Paul would also tell you to do.. There is NO law against walking by the love of God. NONE. You can't go wrong by doing it the way God the Father Himself does it. If He abides in you and you obey the Spirit of God you can't go wrong.
@@TheTrinityDelusion thank you for that comment brother. Thats what I desire more than anything, to be born of the spirit of God and know the Lord Jesus and walk with him. To know the love of God and be able to express it in my life
If Jesus was God literally conceived by the Holy Spirit then why did he need to be anointed Acts 10 & 13. Jesus was begotten of the same incorruptible seed ALL firstborn sons of the spirit are. He was declared a son of God at his spiritual birth not physical birth clearly noted in Romans 1:4. He was a human being born again of the same spirit all humans are. Romans 8;11. And he didn't die to pay the wages for our sins. If so, he would still be dead. Thats the price we would have to pay on Judgement day. Eternal death. Not physical death. Rome literalized a spiritual story. We all must overcome our own sins then we too are born a Son of God. Rev. 21;7.
That's false. Jesus was the Son of God from birth. Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: 👉therefore👈 also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. You shouldn't deny the word 'therefore' for it is there for a reason.
@@johndevisser903 LOL. Jesus was called the son of God until his spiritual birth Clearly stated in Romans 1:4. Luke says he WILL BE called a son but doesn't say when. I'm afraid your biblical illiteracy is showing.
@@RoseSharon7777Your missing the point "Therefore" in context refers to God who conceived Jesus in Mary's womb. Furthermore you make Jesus a liar because in the days he was a child Joseph and Mary lost him out of sight. They found him in the temple and Jesus said that he was in his Father's house refering to the most high. (Luke 2:49) So please, get in the right spirit (stop the childish, toxic LOL-nonsense) and study to show yourself approved. The Son of God through his first birth, the Messiah through his second birth.
@@johndevisser903 God didn't conceive anyone in a human womb. All Sons are begotten of the Fathers incorruptible seed by his spirit planted in our hearts. The virgin daughter of Zion is not a woman named Mary. I suggest you read the bible again.
Jesus is NOT our Savior! And christians must stop idolizing him any manner. Hes our brother not our God. I even i am YHWH besides ME there is NO SAVIOR Isaiah 43:11, Thete is NO OTHER but YHWH. Isaiah 45:5-7.
Correct God is the savior. This doesn't mean that you decide for God that He cannot be that savior through the man whom He has created for this very purpose. You are trying to make the rules for God. God decides how He saves even as God has decided to judge the world by that man He has appointed.
@@johndevisser903 true John. God made Jesus our saviour. Just in the typologies in the old testament where God sent saviours to save His people (mostly due to their own apostasy).
@@johndevisser903 Friend....everyone who converts a sinner from death is considered a savior/deliverer. James 5:20. Moses, Gideon, Ehud, Samson, David, were all saviors of God. They WERE NOT "THE" one and only savior that decides where people will spend eternity. That is YHWH ALONE. No human being has been given that authority.
The new “god” of Constantine’s religion Now let’s review the gods that make up the new composite god of the newly formed (yet known by all pagans as very old) state religion of Rome. Each of these pagan gods were nothing more than later triune (trinity) incarnations of Nimrod/Semiramis/Tammuz handed down through history from the Tower of Babel as mankind spread across the globe with different languages and cultures taking the worship of the planets with them… sun worship. Let’s look a little closer at these so-call “gods” that are the foundation of the fictional messiah Jesus H. Christ who abolished the law of YHVH. Hesus The 18th century Druidic revivalist Iolo Morgannwg identified Esus with Jesus on the strength of the similarity of their names. He also linked them both with Hu Gadarn, writing: “Both Hu and HUON were no doubt originally identical with the HEUS of Lactantius, and the HESUS of Lucan, described as gods of the Gauls. The similarity of the last name to IESU [Welsh: Jesus] is obvious and striking.” When we simply take a step back and admit to ourselves what happened at the Council of Nicaea the similarities between Hesus and “Jesus” can easily be understood. They are one in the same. We’ll get more into the meaning of the name Jesus later. Hesus is a later derivate of the name Esus pronounced “eh-soos”. This is identically to the latin name Iesous where we get the English word “Jesus”. Strong's #2424: Iesous (pronounced ee-ay-sooce'). Hesus too was part of a Trinity. A well-known section in Lucan's Bellum civile talks about the gory sacrificial offerings proffered to a triad of Celtic deities: Teutates, Hesus (an aspirated form of Esus), and Taranis. Among a pair of later commentators on Lucan's work, one identifies Teutates with Mercury and Esus with Mars. According to the Berne Commentary on Lucan, human victims were sacrificed to Esus by being tied to a tree and flailed. Now is the execution of Yahusha coming into focus? Yahusha was killed by ROME in a pagan sacrifice orchestrated by Satan. He was tied to a tree stump and flailed then (according to Roman legend) hung on the Cross of Tammuz as a sacrifice. Above is a picture of “Jesus” as Hesus, Teutates, and Taranis. Below The triune god worshipped by the Vikings was another version of this triple diety of Hesus, Teutates, and Taranis. Horus Horus too was part of a Trinity, the second member in fact. This is the very Trinity of the Catholic/Christian Church of Isis, Horus, Seb or I.H.S. the monogram of Jesus H. Christ with the cross of Tammuz all in the middle of the invincible sun god. Below is a picture the Catholic “Monstrance” that today represents Jesus H. Christ. In fact, Horus was none other than the Egyptian manifestation of Nimrod reincarnated as Tammuz. The same mother/son marriage relationship existed with Horus and Hathor in Egypt just like Babylon between Semiramis and Tammuz. Horus was the Egyptian Tammuz that was a reincarnated god from a “virgin birth” by the rays (spirit) of the sun god. His mother Hathor is none other than Ishtar/Semiramis of Babylonian lore. The names changed because of the different languages by the ritual surrounding their worshipped did not. To this day they remain intact in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity. The earliest recorded form of Horus is the patron deity of Nekhen (another name for Tammuz) in Upper Egypt, who is the first known national god, specifically related to the king who in time came to be regarded as a manifestation of Horus in life and Osiris in death. The most commonly encountered family relationship describes Horus as the son of Isis (Ishtar/Semiramis) and Osiris (Baal/Nimrod) but in another tradition Hathor is regarded as his mother and sometimes as his wife (just like Tammuz/Semiramis). Horus served many functions in the Egyptian pantheon, most notably being the god of the sky, sun, war and protection. Krishna Krishna was the second member of the Hindu Trinity just like Horus and Tammuz and Jesus are all second members of their respective pagan trinities. Krishna in fact was simply the Hindu incarnation of Tammuz in their language and culture. Many progressive Christian scholars go so far as admit the Hindu source for many of the events in Jesus' life and is a topic is worth studying. Many non-Christian religious belief systems, including Hinduism, permeated the Mediterranean region in the 1st century CE. where Christianity was born. The word “Krishna” is Sanskrit for Christ and over time the word evolved from Krishna to Krischto to Chresto to Christ. It means “the anointed one” and the meaning is very different from the Hebrew word “messiah”. We see “Jesus” and Krishna portrayed in paintings and the similarities are striking complete with the solar deity trait of the cross of The Zodiac in front of the blazing sun: There were various male heroes within Egyptian, Greek, Indian, Roman and other pantheons of gods, whose role was to be saviors to humanity -- much like Jesus. In order to compete with those religions, Christianity (as created by Constantine) would have had to describe a new composite god “Jesus H. Christ” in terms that matched or surpassed the legends and myths of other religions. Otherwise, it would not have survived. Then assimilate all other pagan religions into this new one by threat of death. The authors of the gospels may well have picked up themes from other sources and added them to their writings in order to make Christianity more credible to a religiously diverse world, most of which worshiped multiple gods and goddesses. Or, which has proven to be the case, the original transcripts of the Gospels must have been altered by pagan Catholic scribes. I suggest the reader purchase the book Misquoting Jesus for an introduction to Textual Criticism where it has been proven the original manuscripts were altered to support pagan doctrines such as The Trinity and much more. By isolating and removing such foreign material from the Gospels that are obvious references to pagan deities, we might be able to get a clearer picture of what Yahusha the true Messiah actually taught and how he lived. When we do, we are left with a perfect match of the O.T. Prophets who spoke of a human Messiah and prophet of YHVH who would further teach The Torah and reveal YHVH to mankind. When you remove all the pagan associations from the altered texts of the Greek manuscripts we are left with: · A very human, itinerant, Jewish, rabbi-healer. · An observant Jew who had a special relationship with God -- a kinship so close that he referred to God by the familiar term "Abba." · An innocent man literally sacrificed on Passover who rose from the grave on The Sabbath according to the Spring Feast Cycle. · A fully human in every way High Priest chosen from among men to represent mankind before God. Exactly like The Bible describes the Messiah. Now that Constantine had his “god” for his universal religion which was literally 3 different incarnations of Nimrod and Tammuz. This new “god” came complete with the “sun and cross of Tammuz behind his head”. With this new Greek god in place, bringing all the different major factions together through syncretism was easy! Paintings even began to emerge of this triple figured “god” named Jesus with the sun over his head, it was the new Sungod to be worshipped on Sungod Day called to this day Sunday. This “new Greek pagan god” was given the acronym “I.H.S” and represented with the “cross of Tammuz” that depicts the 4 equal points of the ecliptic or “equinoxes” of The Zodiac. The same religion of sun worship founded in Babylon. Below you can easily see the “Cross of Tammuz” the acronym IHS (Isis, Horus, Seb) and a yellow sun behind the heads of the newly renamed versions of Semiramis and Tammuz now called Mary and Joseph. Even the Vatican was constructed with a large obelisk in the center of a massive astrological “cross of the equinoxes” in St. Peter’s Square as the Pope carries around a monstrous symbol of the sun god. With the “new god” firmly in place now depicted as “crucified on the cross of Tammuz” in opposition to the Bible which clearly states he was “impaled on a stake”, the only items on the agenda of the Council of Nicaea was to now bring in all the pagan religious festivals associated with sun worship. Name these pagan rituals after the new “Chrestos” (X-mas, Good Friday, Easter, Sunday, Valentine’s Day, Halloween, etc.) and rename all the pagan idols to their new names where they remain today in The Vatican. Then, of course, change the capital city from Jerusalem to Rome. After all, ROME had already executed The Messiah in pagan sacrificial ritual to Baal. Rome had already sacked Jerusalem and destroyed The Temple of YHVH. The Roman Empire had already made their statement crystal clear; it hated every aspect of the Hebrew Faith and the Hebrew God. The only thing left at this point was to “change the times and Laws of YHVH” and kill all the remaining Sabbath keeping sons of God. This was attempted by the Inquisition. Satan’s hands all over it all… @@RoseSharon7777
@@RoseSharon7777With theJerusalem and destroyed The Temple of YHVH. The Roman Empire had already made their statement crystal clear; it hated every aspect of the Hebrew Faith and the Hebrew God. The only thing left at this point was to “change the times and Laws of YHVH” and kill all the remaining Sabbath keeping sons of God. This was attempted by the Inquisition. Satan’s hands all over it all… Christianity was born as I mentioned at the Council of Nicaea. The pagan doctrines of The Trinity, the Virgin Birth, Sunday Worship, Christmas, Easter, etc. were all formulated and the New Testament texts altered to “imply” these new doctrines in direct contradiction of explicit commandments from YHVH. Throw in the obelisk (steeple) with the cross of Tammuz and the new religion was now complete and Constantine had his “Universal (Catholic) Church”. He then brought in all the pagan sun worshipping “fathers and nuns” from Mithraism and Brigit worship, altered the texts of the New Testament to fit his new religion, and began teaching the illiterate masses a lie that this “religion” was based on The Bible. He then killed any dissenters in the inquisition and banished all intellectual thought in The Dark Ages and 2,000 years later we have accepted every word of this lie as “Truth”. Still to this very day, no one questions “why” the name Jesus gives glory to Zeus not YHVH and “why” the name is not even in the Hebrew language. More information: Hesus Horus Krishna - The False Messiah Jesus Christ
The Faith of Christ is Paul's label for this thing we do and it means trusting in the Jesus walk as the way to life by doing it, trusting in the way that Jesus did it and doing it surrendering ourselves to him so that Christ in us operates this body of flesh and not us because he knows the way to life.
Yes and Christ in us, he lives his life in us and keeps us from falling and falling is sin... He keeps us from sinning including keeping the 4th commandment.. because the Trinity is connected to Sunday sacredness..
If we love him we keep his commandments... Here is the patience of the saints here are those that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus..m
@@John-vr5yc Neither of those verses refer to the 10 commandments.
@@TheTrinityDelusion well tell me which commandments it's referring to.. there are only 10 written on stone with God's own finger...Revelation 14:12-20
King James Version
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus
@@TheTrinityDelusion in fact it says the saints have both the commandments and the faith of Jesus.. not either or..
Powerful Brother Kel!! I’m so blessed that Yahuah sent me to your channel! Shalom!
Amen brother Kel makes perfect sense , thanks for bringing this to the table Blessings ❤
Brother Kel, another incredible video, I love this one! I needed it! Thank You!!!
Peace!
I wish i could give you more thumbs up.....I Love it! I'll watch this video again when I'm not feeling good or when I need it. Thank You!
Thank you so much brother Kel💯💪🙏❤ God bless you!!
Really love your channel, Brother. Thank you for getting the truth out there.
Very good teaching. Ty. Heb 6:1-2
Thank you brother Kel through our risen lord Jesus Christ .
I agree Brother Kel they as protestants think they have Faith because they believe in God by their own Free Will or like you said they have Faith in their own Faith and they deceive themselves.
They also have their Faith in their own theology and their Churchmanship or Church Ministry
Paul’s use of that phrase reinforces in my heart that salvation is the work of God. Our lord Jesus had faith to the death, for the joy set before him. That faith of Christ saves us. “…For what if some disbelieve? Will not their unbelief nullify the faithfulness of God?” Never!
Many like to add “yeah, BUT” and then list many verses about obedience or things we must do “to be saved”. It is cognitive dissonance in their thinking because religion teaches we must do certain works to please God. May this message help many to see the beauty of the work of Christs faith as written in Psalm 62, “My soul waits in silence for God alone; From Him comes my salvation.”
Bless you brother.
Lawrence
When you have faith in your Lord, you listen to your Lord and you do as he says.
If you don't, he isn't your Lord.
@@johndevisser903 Hi John,
I agree with the first part, "When you have faith in your Lord, you listen to your Lord and you do as he says." That is God drawing us into Himself. Because man is still in the flesh and has the death nature pushing on him (as Paul lamented), we may not always listen and obey; like a child we rebel. I trust that my Father God knows exactly how to discipline us to come into obedience from the heart.
Grace be with you!
Wonderful.
Amen. It's good that you brought up the synonym for "Faith of Christ". There's alot of synonyms in the Scriptures that are supposed to make things easier, but we have a tendency to make it harder.
"through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the OBEDIENCE OF FAITH for the sake of his name among all the nations," - Romans 1.5
"7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:" - 2 Thessalonians 1.7-8
What role does Jesus Christ play in God's plan of salvation?
What does faith in Jesus Christ really mean?
Who was Jesus Christ before his self-abasement two thousand years ago, according to the words of the apostle Paul?
Galatians 3,26-29
26 For ye are all the children of God b y f a i t h i n C h r i s t J e s u s .
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are
a l l o n e i n C h r i s t J e s u s .
29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Philippians 2,5-11
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e :
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
@@MR-gx3gc "What role does Jesus Christ play in God's plan of salvation?"
John 3:16, John 20:31
"What does faith in Jesus Christ really mean?"
Being baptized into Christ, and receiving the faith delivered unto us.
"Who was Jesus Christ before his self-abasement two thousand years ago, according to the words of the apostle Paul?"
Philippians 2:5 begins Jesus Christ who humbles himself. What do you mean what was he "before his self-abasement"?
@@joseph906 Philippians 2,5-11
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
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7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and t o o k u p o n h i m t h e f o r m o f a
s e r v a n t , a n d w a s m a d e i n t h e l i k e n e s s o f m e n :
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8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e :
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
@@joseph906 What Holy Secret, which God Himself had kept secret from the prophets of the pre-Christian era, was fully revealed to the apostle Paul two thousand years ago?
Who took upon himself the voluntary sacrificial death for mankind?
God Himself or a creature created by Him for this purpose? As is well known, a third option is out of the question.
Romans 16,25-28
25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to m y g o s p e l , and the p r e a c h i n g
o f J e s u s C h r i s t , according to the revelation of the mystery, which w a s k e p t s e c r e t
s i n c e t h e w o r l d b e g a n ,
26 B ut n o w i s m a d e m a n i f e s t , and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
27To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.
Ephesians 3,7-12
7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
8Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is t h i s g r a c e g i v e n , that I should preach among the Gentiles the u n s e a r c h a b l e r i c h e s o f C h r i s t;
9And to make a l l m e n s e e what is the fellowship of the mystery, w h i c h f r o m t h e b e g i n n i n g
o f t h e w o r l d h a t h b e e n h id i n Go d , who created all things by Jesus Christ:
10 T o t h e i n t e n t t h a t n o w u nto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might b e k n o w n by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
11According to the e t e r n a l p u r p o s e w h i ch h e p u r p o s e d i n C h r i s t J e s u s our Lord:
12In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.
Thanks very much Brother Kel. Now I have a satisfying answer to something I have wondered about.
It's really quite simple. It's trusting in the way of Christ, trusting in the Jesus way, the way he did it, to walk just as he walked being led by Christ in us.
Good teaching.
Brother Kel, do you have any videos on water baptism?
I'm a big fan of your work. May God bless you and guide us all to the right path.
Thank you. I'd like to sometime (even if it is part time of a long series (i.e. every once in a while rotated into the topics you share) on the various ties and extractions from baptism... I think off the top of my head, Israel crossing the Red Sea for example. You mentioning it has given me much to think on. Blessings and drive safely.
Great video.
*_The Ego Self_* is the False, Physical Self. We are saved when we give up the physical identity and become part of the body of Christ.
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Have you checked out Kingdom in Context?
We must be the way the truth and the life
We must be conformed to the image of God's son walking just as he walked.
@@TheTrinityDelusion “Follow me even as I follow Jesus.” In submission we are the way truth and life bringing salvation and restoration to those who hear the Father and our Lord through us. “He who receives the one I send…”
Being in a perpetual state of *_unlearning_* old, relative truths and learning new, relative truths, is getting easier and easier.
This makes so much sense. The ancient teachings of Adam Kadmon (spirit in the Image of God) becoming Adam Ha-Rishon (shards of spiritual light wrapped in flesh). And the *_FIRST shard of Light_* to return to Heaven was the one known to us as Jesus Christ (John 3.13). He has claimed the Right to be the Head of the New Body, and we, as members of the Body of the Church of Christ, must give up our individual, *_separate,_* and false ego selves, to become actual parts of the Whole Body of Christ, no longer following what we want to do, but doing what Christ wants to do with his body -- the Original Son of God, purified in the Dark Fire of physical reality -- by *_Free Will Choice._*
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This is the understanding of Jude. Many people believe it is about doctrine but it is about faith (full submission and surrender to the perfect will knowing you will receive the promise.). Increase our faith… help our unbelief. Contend for your own faith. Fight for the strength to walk in the anointing. In verse 5 of Jude it gives the understanding that those who perished were because of unbelief.
Similar to Hebrews 3:16-4:2
I wish Kel would answer my questions. They are sincere. That is the thing that is missing - being able to ask a question so there is more understanding. I thought we had God's spirit to help us. ajc
Do you any videos on water baptism?
Part of the difficulty with language involves a concept similar to the order of precedence in mathematics. Using parentheses, we can change the meaning of "faith in Christ."
(faith in) Christ -- is an act *_toward_* Christ as the object (or target) of our action ("faith in").
faith (in Christ) -- is an act we do while residing within the body of Christ. Completely different meaning.
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How can we make the sprit of Jesus dwell in us?
Righteousness through faith is attained by walking as Jesus walked by doing what he heard in his spirit. Mortifying his Adamic nature by the Spirit and not by works of the Law. The way to die to your Adamic nature is not by doing the law, because it's not capable to change our inner man, but faith is what changes our hearts and makes us obedient to God. In faith there's hope which keeps us going even in hard times. Faith alone doesn't save, faith enables us to press on and to reach the destination where we can get a crown of eternal life. Conversion moment is a bliss because we've been washed white as snow and the Light which filled when we were immersed into the Holy Spirit was something undescribable. But this is only a START LINE. We must run according to the rules until we get into the place of being in this conversion moment constantly. Paul says "I die daily.." If he's dead he has no need to die again. We must mortify what is left of our old man until we are totally dead and in us there's not even a bit of rebellion left against God. Look what Paul says 1Cor 4:4: "I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me." He reached a point in his life where he looked at himself and didn't see what needs to be fixed but even then he knew that he is not saved until God says that he is. Our faith must be pleasant to God. 2Cor 5:9: "So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him."
Pretty much.
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Hello brother Kel, I would like to hear about water baptism. If possible, please share how one can interact with you in writing? I have a few verses that troubles me like 1 Peter 3
Wonderful teaching Kel, thank u. What about woman in Christ Jesus, been told women r for men, men has Christ Jesus, an Christ Jesus has God his father.
That doesn'.t sound right. Sounds like that idea came from a power tripper.
The "faith of Jesus" is his obedience to God's Law (every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God) even unto death!!
Jesus walked by the Spirit of his God. That was everything he needed.
This is what annoyed me about Christians when I went to church. Whenever they talked about faith in Christ, it was like this weird moving target I could never put my finger on. Their explanations were nothing but circular definitions. And when I pressed them about it, they accused me of having a carnal mind. Saying flesh can not inherit the kingdom, and that's why I'm not able to understand. Because 'according to them' I was a man of flesh still. Most frustrating experience ever In churches.
who is the father of lies? a bad angel? a fallen angel? led by the spirit of christ or the spirit of god? and I don't get how we can walk the way jesus walked or even suffer as he did????
Shalom!
John 1:1 reads: "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God".
Christian orthodoxy holds that the "three Persons of the Trinity", ie: "the Father", "the Son" and "the Holy Spirit", are coequal, coeternal & consubstantial, maintaining in the meantime that "the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" are "three distinct Persons". In addition, mainstream Christian apologists insist that the term "Word or Logos" in John's prologue means "the Son ie. the Christ", but they also agree that the term "God" in its first occurrence therein means "The Father". If we are to abide by the rules of grammar, avoiding any presupposed doctrinal reading into the text, the passage would through a substitution process read or mean:
"In the beginning was the Son, and the Son was with the Father, and the Son was the Father", which would utterly shatter the trinity doctrine.
Never looked at it that way! Thank you
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Are we saved by our ability to surrender to the Spirit of Christ? Does it not require the impartation of the faith of Christ to begin with, by the grace and will of God, to make us sufficient for such a task? (See 2Cor3:6 & Col1:12)
We must acknowledge the source of our coming to the knowledge of the glorious differences between the faith OF Christ, or, literally, Jesus Christ's faith, and the faith IN Christ.
To God be the glory
2 Corinthians 3:4-6
CLV(i) 4 Now such is the confidence we have through Christ toward God 5 (not that we are competent of ourselves, to reckon anything as of ourselves, but our competency is of God), 6 Who also makes us competent dispensers of a new covenant, not of the letter, but of the spirit, for the letter is killing, yet the spirit is vivifying."
Colossians 1:9-13
CLV(i) 9 Therefore we also, from the day on which we hear, do not cease praying for you and requesting that you may be filled full with the realization of His will, in all wisdom and spiritual understanding, 10 you to walk worthily of the Lord for all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and growing in the realization of God;" 11 being endued with all power, in accord with the might of His glory, for all endurance and patience with joy;" 12 at the same time giving thanks to the Father, Who makes you competent for a part of the allotment of the saints, in light, 13 Who rescues us out of the jurisdiction of Darkness, and transports us into the kingdom of the Son of His love
If we come to the conclusion that there is "differences" in these terms then we must at one point make the leap and say "in" really means "towards". Which puts all the "in Christ" verses of Paul into question.
@joseph906 We must not throw out the baby with the bath water. There are times when the proposition [g1722.en] translated "in" is in the actual inspired passage. This is the case in Gal3:26. Faith in Christ is the conduit by which we are sons of God. But make no mistake, this faith is not of ourselves.
The problem comes when there is no proposition [g1722.en] translated "in" written in the text. Two great examples are found in Rom3:22 & Gal2:20. In both instances, translations containing the phrase "in Christ" replaces the achievement of Christ with our own.
Compare a few of the translations for yourself and see if the glory goes to Christ or to the "believer?" Rom3:22 declares the righteousness of God apart from law is manifest through Jesus Christ's faith. This is the engine moving the train. None of the box cars are contributing.
I agree with everything the brother said here but would like to add an additional thought.
The biblical definition of faith is found in Hebrews 11:1 - “1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” RSB
According to the biblical definition of faith, the “faith of Yahshua” indicates he is not the Father, as his faith is in someone or something he does not control or he has not seen before:
Romans 3:22 - “22 Even the righteousness of Elohim which is by faith of Yahshua Messiah unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:” RSB
Galatians 2:16 - “16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Yahshua Messiah, even we have believed in Yahshua Messiah, that we might be justified by the faith of Messiah, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.” RSB
Galatians 2:20 - “20 I am impaled with Messiah: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Messiah liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of Yahweh, who loved me, and gave himself for me.” RSB
Philippians 3:9 - “9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Messiah, the righteousness which is of Yahweh by faith:” RSB
Notes to myself: The faith of Yahshua disproves the notion of the trinity, as Yahshua had faith in things hoped for and in things not yet seen. Like us, Yahshua had to trust in things he had never seen or experienced before (2 Cor. 5:7). Examples: Death, the resurrection, and receiving the rewards he was promised are all things Yahshua had to overcome by faith. The faith of Yahshua caused him to follow the way of life and truth that he was taught by his Father, and it is his faith that directly leads to a path of salvation for us.
Another verse that refers to the faith of Yahshua without stating directly it is Yahshua:
Ephesians 2:8-9 - “8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of Yahweh: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.” RSB
Note to myself: Notice in the above scripture, we are saved by faith that is not of ourselves. This faith is the same “faith of Yahshua” we see in various other scriptures like Romans 3:22, Galatians 2:16,20 and Philippians 3:9.
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This video is a little confusing to me. We live our lives aware of God because we follow and are aware of him thru his spirit. I don't even know what taking up the cross means. I think Jesus came to make us aware who God is and how to depend on him.
Is there a principal difference between the source of effort in man "to do what Jesus says" and the source of effort "to do what Moses says"?
Men under the Law had to do what Moses says by their own efforts. Those in Christ remove themselves from the equation and allow only Christ himself to pilot their bodies of flesh.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Amen. I really want Him to be my "pilot". But unfortunately there's still the presence of some resistance in my nature of a stubborn "Jew"...and also only God knows what else
@@TheTrinityDelusion I agree and also point to Romans 2:12-29 & 3:31 kjv. We know Jesus was and is perfect in the laws, statues and commandments. Faith comes First and by Faith we follow the Lord.
How could you spend "several years" studying water baptism? You can get a bachelor degree in that time. 1 more year you could have a law degree. Water baptism is not that in depth. I welcome your reply.
First, I work for a living and did spend all day studying like you would for a degree. This was done in my spare time. Second, I explained in this video that it ballooned to involve just about every doctrine of Christianity and those issues needed to be all studied and evaluated to get the right answer to baptism so I had to study and re-evaluate those doctrines as well. It ending up being a thorough study of 90% of the doctrines in Christianity. Third, there is way more to explore concerning this question than most people realize. To claim water baptism is not that in depth shows that you probably have a very superficial understanding.
My "superficial understading" is that water baptism is not mentioned that often in God's word and it's certainly not a "doctrine" as you claim. Whether or not someone is baptised in water does not decide their eternal destiny, I'd like to see if you can provide scripture and versre to prove otherwise. The term "born again" actually translates to "born from above" if you would like to look that one up in the greek. Being submereged in water and coming up out of it is symbolic of the old flesh man being put to death and the new creation that is "born from above" as being dominant over former flesh driven man, no longer having to be ruled by the desires of the 5 senses. The word says that unless a man has been born from above (his spirit being renewed to the spirit of God) he shall not enter into the kingdom (reign) of God. The reign of God means that the man born from above puts the word and commandments of God before his own and obeys the commands of the Lord, denying his own fleshly desires and allowing the word of God to dictate his actions. When asked "Master, what must I do to be saved?" The Lord did not reply that he must be baptised in water. He replied that unless a man is born of water i.e. the water breaking in the womb at birth and then born (again) from above, he cannot enter into the kingdom (reign) of God. This is my superficial understanding. I do appreciate your studies and I thank you for your exposition of the trinity delusion. It never really made any sense to me and your teachings helped me to understand the truth on the matter.
Many thanks, and God bless. @@TheTrinityDelusion
If you think of Jesus as God you don’t think of him as a person who has faith , because he’s God.
When jesus cursed the fig tree Peter came and told him about it that it really happend: Jesus didn’t say : yeah that’s because I’m the son of God , I can do these things . He began to speak to Peter about having faith , and Peter could do the same as he did .Jesus used his faith cursing the fig tree . mark 11:22. ( also faith OF God )
Jesus needed faith to do miracles.
Jesus needed faith to live the life that he did.
Jesus needed faith to lay down his life for the brethren . The Faith that God his father would raise him up from the dead.
Hè entrusted his whole life to his father. That’s faith.
We need the same faith OF Christ .
To entrust our whole life unto him.
What means dying to your self ( just as Jesus did )
Which is the hardest thing one can do , you can’t deny yourself if you don’t trust the one who is taking over. But it takes faith .
"IN CHRIST" - The body of Christ has many members.
It is the faith of Jesus we need for salvation. Something religion can never give us. Faith about Jesus, faith in Jesus yes, but the faith of Jesus no! Jesus calls His people out of religion because we can never grow to spiritual maturity in Christ because we remain dependent on our 'mother' (religious system we grow up in) and 'father' (religious leaders). Staying immature children. Jesus calls us out of Babylon, leads us out of the sheepsfold where wolves enter in and outside the camp of manmade religion where we suffer with him but grow to the spiritual maturity intended for us.
Good points.
The way, or the faith of Christ is not Christianity.
It's comparing truly denying yourself and surrendering to Christ with a religion and religious system of man.
Christianity is of the world and not of God wich is proven throughout scriptures aswell as through the so called church history.
Hi Bardo, Yes religious methods are not walking by the power of God but the weakness of men, There is no greater power than walking by the love of God our Father just as Jesus did. The devil fears nothing more. He is at war with the children of God and it is the immense power of God's love in them and by which they walk which concerns him more than anything.
@@TheTrinityDelusionWalking in God's love isn't Christianity.
It's true discipleship; Something Christivanity has never brought forth.
@@johndevisser903 If you define "Christianity" as the church system, Yep
Listen to this over and over even tho it is 10 months old. Like it. Is there really a satan or does it just mean adversary (human or otherwise). And why would God let him hurt us so much. Is it not God's spirit not christ as he was just like us human. We follow the spirit of God. I understand the demon thing and believe they are real. But when Jesus said get behind me satan did he mean get behind me adversary. Does being saved mean delivered instead of the heaven thing. think about it
Many are mistakenly trusting in "by faith alone" for their salvation (which is an erroneous concept) RATHER then trusting in and having "the faith of Christ", which is an example to us of obedience (a faith that produces obedience is a saving faith). . the false doctrine of "by faith alone" is unscriptural and leads many astray misplacing their hope and trust in a concept.. side note as to why baptism also has no real meaning to them
Many have faith boiled down to thinking in their heads that a few propositions about Jesus are true, and if they do, they are eternally saved. It's like they think they correctly answered TRUE to a True and False question about Jesus and that's why they are eternally saved. It's complete madness.
like in presbyterian or reformed faith,, if you can nail the shorter catechism then your good to go@@TheTrinityDelusion
The faith 'of' Christ is pretty much self explanatory.
When I say the car 'of' my neighbor or the job 'of' my uncle, there is no one that doesn't understand that I talk about the car my neighbor has and about the job wich my uncle has..
.. but when I say the faith 'of' Christ even the so called scholars and theologians don't understand what it means.
It's nothing more than a twisted and rebellious mind at work.
Logic, common sense and honesty disappear when man follows the thing of wich he desires it to be true, instead of actually hungering for truth.
Your mind is already set on what you want to be true so, everything on the road wich blocks your beliefs will be twisted to fit the own corrupted narrative.
If Jesus was once god, why did he need faith?
Jesus is not God.
@@Mathew-o5j2u Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time
The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits
So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply
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Hebrews 11:1... Faith is the Spirit of God!
We have to pick up our Storos or stake otherwise nothing is at stake
With all due respect, you're making WAY too much out of the word "of". SOMETIMES, "faith of" means the faith somebody had (like in Romans 4 when it talks about the faith of Abraham), but most other times it means the same as "faith in", like in an early chapter in Romans when it says the "faith of God" (which is contrasted with unbelief and thus amounts to the same thing as belief in). When you think about it, having faith of something usually defaults to meaning the same thing as believing in whatever that thing (or person) is. In places like Romans 3 the two are used interchangeably in translations that put the "of" there, so they refer to the same thing. It's also worth noting that many of the passages you cite that say "of Christ" don't even have a preposition in the Greek that "of" is translated from, so it largely conjectural as to what English preposition to put there to begin with, thus making your certainty of the word "of" carrying this great meaning rest on uncertain ground at best.
To look at "of" as proof of faith being equivalent to a walk or anything like that is to miss the forest for the trees. People look at things like "faith of" along with what it says in Romans 4 about following in the footsteps of Abraham, and they automatically read exemplarist or works-related ideas into these passages when panning out and looking at the bigger picture will show such understandings to be the actual erroneous ones that aren't in line with the text. It wouldn't even make sense for belief or faith to be equivalent to "doing" given how faith and good works are so clearly contrasted in places like James 2. True faith does result in a changed life, but they're not one and the same. Finally, the idea that "faith in" only refers to what somebody does once they're in Christ is false...John 1 talks about people who believe being given the right to become children of God (which shows that faith amounts to something they exhibit BEFORE being in Christ), and Romans 3 says that faith in Christ is how the propitiation of sins is received (again, an initial thing somebody experiences before being "in Christ").
In trying to do your own research you seem to have fallen down the rabbit hole quite a ways. I could discuss this in much more depth that I already have here but I think I've typed enough for now.
I wasn't relying solely on the word "of."
@@TheTrinityDelusion Solely or not, it's a central part of your premise as you contrast it with "faith in", and it's a shaky ground at best. If you look at the passages where "faith of" is present, there aren't actually any prepositions in the Greek that "of" is translated from, so it's erroneous to say that Paul says "faith of" given that any preposition put there is conjectural on the part of the translators. It's just as likely that "faith in" was the idea on Paul's mind as "faith of" was. Plus, like I pointed out, "faith of" something often just means having faith toward something or someone, so there are too many layers of ambiguity here for you to speak with any sort of certainty.
To conflate faith and doing like you have is wrong. Faith leads to doing, but they're not the same thing. The Bible consistently differentiates between them, and there's no amount of other material from the Bible that can be used to show otherwise. Christ was indeed an example, but the reason that faith justifies isn't just down to its moral transformative effects; it's a big part of how we receive forgiveness of sins as pointed out in Romans 3:25 and other passages.
@@GamingDrummer89 "Solely or not, it's a central part of your premise"
Not it's not. It's based on an analysis of how Paul uses this language throughout his letters
@@TheTrinityDelusion What do you mean when you say "this language"?
Language like "the faith of Christ" or "the faith" or "the faith of Jesus Christ" etc. etc. The context of these expressions show us what he means by them.
In the meantime I have been watching many of your videos-posts on this channel.
Howewer apart from your constant criticism of the Trinity, I have not been able to find a clear statement on this elementary question in any of your numerous contributions.
I would like to emphasize that I too am aware that the Apostles declared faith in Jesus Christ and not the faith in the Trinity to be necessary for salvation. (Galatians 3:24-29).
Which Jesus do you believe in?
The Apostle Paul, whom you rightly quote several times in your current video contribution, warned against preachers who were already preaching a "different Jesus" than he did. (2 Corinthians 11:1-5).
Who humbled himself two thousand years ago to become a human being?
God himself, a secondary god or an angel or a heavenly creature such as the Archangel Michael?
Philippians 2,5-11
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e :
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
What role does Jesus Christ play in God's plan of salvation?
What does faith in Jesus Christ really mean?
Who was Jesus Christ before his self-abasement two thousand years ago, according to the words of the apostle Paul?
Galatians 3,26-29
26 For ye are all the children of God b y f a i t h i n C h r i s t J e s u s .
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are
a l l o n e i n C h r i s t J e s u s .
29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Philippians 2,5-11
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 W h o , b e i n g i n t h e f o r m o f G o d , thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 B u t m a d e h i m s e l f o f n o r e p u t a t i o n , and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8And being found in fashion as a man, h e h u m b l e d h i m s e l f , and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given h i m a n a m e w h i c h i s a b o v e e v e r y n a m e :
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Here's another one. "His redemption is with Him."
His redemption... Not your's, nor mine or anyone else's. His ....
What are your thoughts brother?
And as far as the Trinity goes... It's 3in1 right? That's 4. Father, Spirit, Son & Ghost. Contrary to popular belief The Spirit and Ghost are not the same person. Just like The Father and Son are not the same person. Ones a product of the other. Kind of like a nuclear family don't you think?
Love Paul and his submissive and kneeling heart. He had it much harder than the others. Sadly the twelve had to save him and hide him from the crowds. Shortly before they all parted. I love 'em all really. Even the apostles to the apostles. Who am I kidding they all had it bad. 😞 Still they continued unto death... And that gives me hope.
If Jesus is the way and Jesus kept the law perfectly as God intended and Jesus showed us how to do so, then why does Paul say the law Jesus followed and showed us how to perfect has been removed and we are not to do as Jesus did by observing the 4th commandment and that we can eat swine flesh..we can even eat food that has been sacrificed to an idol if we want according to Paul.
I’m trying to understand and I see a contrast between Paul vs Jesus. I don’t want to be the one Peter says twists Paul’s words to my destruction. I just want to understand.
All I know is Jesus is the way. It doesn’t say Paul is the way.
But Paul’s letters definitely show that he gave his life to Christ.
So then there was a change with the law? An abolishment of it and that came to pass in 70AD when the temple was destroyed? “The end of the age”?
The way of Christ (how he walked) is a much higher moral standard than the Law. Paul followed the way of Christ. God is love and the way of Christ is the way of God and His love. Follow Jesus and you have nothing to worry about. That's what Paul would also tell you to do.. There is NO law against walking by the love of God. NONE. You can't go wrong by doing it the way God the Father Himself does it. If He abides in you and you obey the Spirit of God you can't go wrong.
@@TheTrinityDelusion thank you for that comment brother. Thats what I desire more than anything, to be born of the spirit of God and know the Lord Jesus and walk with him. To know the love of God and be able to express it in my life
If Jesus was God literally conceived by the Holy Spirit then why did he need to be anointed Acts 10 & 13.
Jesus was begotten of the same incorruptible seed ALL firstborn sons of the spirit are. He was declared a son of God at his spiritual birth not physical birth clearly noted in Romans 1:4. He was a human being born again of the same spirit all humans are. Romans 8;11.
And he didn't die to pay the wages for our sins. If so, he would still be dead. Thats the price we would have to pay on Judgement day. Eternal death. Not physical death. Rome literalized a spiritual story.
We all must overcome our own sins then we too are born a Son of God. Rev. 21;7.
That's false.
Jesus was the Son of God from birth.
Luke 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
👉therefore👈 also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
You shouldn't deny the word 'therefore' for it is there for a reason.
@@johndevisser903 LOL. Jesus was called the son of God until his spiritual birth Clearly stated in Romans 1:4. Luke says he WILL BE called a son but doesn't say when. I'm afraid your biblical illiteracy is showing.
@@johndevisser903 His spiritual birth was at the Jordan when God called him MY SON. You might want to reread the NT.
@@RoseSharon7777Your missing the point
"Therefore" in context refers to God who conceived Jesus in Mary's womb.
Furthermore you make Jesus a liar because in the days he was a child Joseph and Mary lost him out of sight.
They found him in the temple and Jesus said that he was in his Father's house refering to the most high. (Luke 2:49)
So please, get in the right spirit (stop the childish, toxic LOL-nonsense) and study to show yourself approved.
The Son of God through his first birth, the Messiah through his second birth.
@@johndevisser903 God didn't conceive anyone in a human womb. All Sons are begotten of the Fathers incorruptible seed by his spirit planted in our hearts. The virgin daughter of Zion is not a woman named Mary. I suggest you read the bible again.
Jesus is NOT our Savior! And christians must stop idolizing him any manner. Hes our brother not our God.
I even i am YHWH besides ME there is NO SAVIOR Isaiah 43:11, Thete is NO OTHER but YHWH. Isaiah 45:5-7.
Correct God is the savior.
This doesn't mean that you decide for God that He cannot be that savior through the man whom He has created for this very purpose.
You are trying to make the rules for God.
God decides how He saves even as God has decided to judge the world by that man He has appointed.
@@johndevisser903 true John. God made Jesus our saviour. Just in the typologies in the old testament where God sent saviours to save His people (mostly due to their own apostasy).
@@johndevisser903 Friend....everyone who converts a sinner from death is considered a savior/deliverer. James 5:20. Moses, Gideon, Ehud, Samson, David, were all saviors of God. They WERE NOT "THE" one and only savior that decides where people will spend eternity. That is YHWH ALONE. No human being has been given that authority.
The new “god” of Constantine’s religion
Now let’s review the gods that make up the new composite god of the newly formed (yet known by all pagans as very old) state religion of Rome. Each of these pagan gods were nothing more than later triune (trinity) incarnations of Nimrod/Semiramis/Tammuz handed down through history from the Tower of Babel as mankind spread across the globe with different languages and cultures taking the worship of the planets with them… sun worship. Let’s look a little closer at these so-call “gods” that are the foundation of the fictional messiah Jesus H. Christ who abolished the law of YHVH.
Hesus
The 18th century Druidic revivalist Iolo Morgannwg identified Esus with Jesus on the strength of the similarity of their names. He also linked them both with Hu Gadarn, writing:
“Both Hu and HUON were no doubt originally identical with the HEUS of Lactantius, and the HESUS of Lucan, described as gods of the Gauls. The similarity of the last name to IESU [Welsh: Jesus] is obvious and striking.”
When we simply take a step back and admit to ourselves what happened at the Council of Nicaea the similarities between Hesus and “Jesus” can easily be understood. They are one in the same. We’ll get more into the meaning of the name Jesus later. Hesus is a later derivate of the name Esus pronounced “eh-soos”. This is identically to the latin name Iesous where we get the English word “Jesus”. Strong's #2424: Iesous (pronounced ee-ay-sooce').
Hesus too was part of a Trinity. A well-known section in Lucan's Bellum civile talks about the gory sacrificial offerings proffered to a triad of Celtic deities: Teutates, Hesus (an aspirated form of Esus), and Taranis. Among a pair of later commentators on Lucan's work, one identifies Teutates with Mercury and Esus with Mars. According to the Berne Commentary on Lucan, human victims were sacrificed to Esus by being tied to a tree and flailed. Now is the execution of Yahusha coming into focus? Yahusha was killed by ROME in a pagan sacrifice orchestrated by Satan. He was tied to a tree stump and flailed then (according to Roman legend) hung on the Cross of Tammuz as a sacrifice.
Above is a picture of “Jesus” as Hesus, Teutates, and Taranis. Below The triune god worshipped by the Vikings was another version of this triple diety of Hesus, Teutates, and Taranis.
Horus
Horus too was part of a Trinity, the second member in fact. This is the very Trinity of the Catholic/Christian Church of Isis, Horus, Seb or I.H.S. the monogram of Jesus H. Christ with the cross of Tammuz all in the middle of the invincible sun god. Below is a picture the Catholic “Monstrance” that today represents Jesus H. Christ.
In fact, Horus was none other than the Egyptian manifestation of Nimrod reincarnated as Tammuz. The same mother/son marriage relationship existed with Horus and Hathor in Egypt just like Babylon between Semiramis and Tammuz. Horus was the Egyptian Tammuz that was a reincarnated god from a “virgin birth” by the rays (spirit) of the sun god. His mother Hathor is none other than Ishtar/Semiramis of Babylonian lore. The names changed because of the different languages by the ritual surrounding their worshipped did not. To this day they remain intact in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity.
The earliest recorded form of Horus is the patron deity of Nekhen (another name for Tammuz) in Upper Egypt, who is the first known national god, specifically related to the king who in time came to be regarded as a manifestation of Horus in life and Osiris in death. The most commonly encountered family relationship describes Horus as the son of Isis (Ishtar/Semiramis) and Osiris (Baal/Nimrod) but in another tradition Hathor is regarded as his mother and sometimes as his wife (just like Tammuz/Semiramis). Horus served many functions in the Egyptian pantheon, most notably being the god of the sky, sun, war and protection.
Krishna
Krishna was the second member of the Hindu Trinity just like Horus and Tammuz and Jesus are all second members of their respective pagan trinities. Krishna in fact was simply the Hindu incarnation of Tammuz in their language and culture.
Many progressive Christian scholars go so far as admit the Hindu source for many of the events in Jesus' life and is a topic is worth studying. Many non-Christian religious belief systems, including Hinduism, permeated the Mediterranean region in the 1st century CE. where Christianity was born. The word “Krishna” is Sanskrit for Christ and over time the word evolved from Krishna to Krischto to Chresto to Christ. It means “the anointed one” and the meaning is very different from the Hebrew word “messiah”. We see “Jesus” and Krishna portrayed in paintings and the similarities are striking complete with the solar deity trait of the cross of The Zodiac in front of the blazing sun:
There were various male heroes within Egyptian, Greek, Indian, Roman and other pantheons of gods, whose role was to be saviors to humanity -- much like Jesus. In order to compete with those religions, Christianity (as created by Constantine) would have had to describe a new composite god “Jesus H. Christ” in terms that matched or surpassed the legends and myths of other religions. Otherwise, it would not have survived. Then assimilate all other pagan religions into this new one by threat of death. The authors of the gospels may well have picked up themes from other sources and added them to their writings in order to make Christianity more credible to a religiously diverse world, most of which worshiped multiple gods and goddesses. Or, which has proven to be the case, the original transcripts of the Gospels must have been altered by pagan Catholic scribes. I suggest the reader purchase the book Misquoting Jesus for an introduction to Textual Criticism where it has been proven the original manuscripts were altered to support pagan doctrines such as The Trinity and much more.
By isolating and removing such foreign material from the Gospels that are obvious references to pagan deities, we might be able to get a clearer picture of what Yahusha the true Messiah actually taught and how he lived. When we do, we are left with a perfect match of the O.T. Prophets who spoke of a human Messiah and prophet of YHVH who would further teach The Torah and reveal YHVH to mankind. When you remove all the pagan associations from the altered texts of the Greek manuscripts we are left with:
· A very human, itinerant, Jewish, rabbi-healer.
· An observant Jew who had a special relationship with God -- a kinship so close that he referred to God by the familiar term "Abba."
· An innocent man literally sacrificed on Passover who rose from the grave on The Sabbath according to the Spring Feast Cycle.
· A fully human in every way High Priest chosen from among men to represent mankind before God. Exactly like The Bible describes the Messiah.
Now that Constantine had his “god” for his universal religion which was literally 3 different incarnations of Nimrod and Tammuz. This new “god” came complete with the “sun and cross of Tammuz behind his head”. With this new Greek god in place, bringing all the different major factions together through syncretism was easy!
Paintings even began to emerge of this triple figured “god” named Jesus with the sun over his head, it was the new Sungod to be worshipped on Sungod Day called to this day Sunday.
This “new Greek pagan god” was given the acronym “I.H.S” and represented with the “cross of Tammuz” that depicts the 4 equal points of the ecliptic or “equinoxes” of The Zodiac. The same religion of sun worship founded in Babylon. Below you can easily see the “Cross of Tammuz” the acronym IHS (Isis, Horus, Seb) and a yellow sun behind the heads of the newly renamed versions of Semiramis and Tammuz now called Mary and Joseph.
Even the Vatican was constructed with a large obelisk in the center of a massive astrological “cross of the equinoxes” in St. Peter’s Square as the Pope carries around a monstrous symbol of the sun god.
With the “new god” firmly in place now depicted as “crucified on the cross of Tammuz” in opposition to the Bible which clearly states he was “impaled on a stake”, the only items on the agenda of the Council of Nicaea was to now bring in all the pagan religious festivals associated with sun worship. Name these pagan rituals after the new “Chrestos” (X-mas, Good Friday, Easter, Sunday, Valentine’s Day, Halloween, etc.) and rename all the pagan idols to their new names where they remain today in The Vatican. Then, of course, change the capital city from Jerusalem to Rome. After all, ROME had already executed The Messiah in pagan sacrificial ritual to Baal. Rome had already sacked Jerusalem and destroyed The Temple of YHVH. The Roman Empire had already made their statement crystal clear; it hated every aspect of the Hebrew Faith and the Hebrew God. The only thing left at this point was to “change the times and Laws of YHVH” and kill all the remaining Sabbath keeping sons of God. This was attempted by the Inquisition. Satan’s hands all over it all…
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Christianity was born as I mentioned at the Council of Nicaea. The pagan doctrines of The Trinity, the Virgin Birth, Sunday Worship, Christmas, Easter, etc. were all formulated and the New Testament texts altered to “imply” these new doctrines in direct contradiction of explicit commandments from YHVH. Throw in the obelisk (steeple) with the cross of Tammuz and the new religion was now complete and Constantine had his “Universal (Catholic) Church”. He then brought in all the pagan sun worshipping “fathers and nuns” from Mithraism and Brigit worship, altered the texts of the New Testament to fit his new religion, and began teaching the illiterate masses a lie that this “religion” was based on The Bible. He then killed any dissenters in the inquisition and banished all intellectual thought in The Dark Ages and 2,000 years later we have accepted every word of this lie as “Truth”.
Still to this very day, no one questions “why” the name Jesus gives glory to Zeus not YHVH and “why” the name is not even in the Hebrew language.
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