The Riggory of Drag Race UK Vs the World 2
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After the first season of Drag Race UK vs the World was one of the most controversial seasons of all time due to the shocking eliminations, a lot of people were a bit worried for what was to come with the second installment, myself included. And while there was still some controversy, this season ended up being a much bigger success than its predecessor!
Introducing queens like Marina Summers and La Grande Dame to a wider audience, bringing back fan favorites like Tia Kofi and Scarlet Envy, and the level of drag being at a VERY high mark, there were a lot of things that made this season such a success, and we'll break down all of it, as well as go episode by episode and talk about all of the riggory, which fans claimed there was a lot of throughout the season.
Was Scarlet Envy overlooked by the judges once again? Did Tia Kofi get carried to the finale? Did Marina Summers get robbed blind of the crown? We'll talk about all of that and much more!
Let me know in the comments below what you think was the most rigged moment of the season!
0:00 INTRO
4:37 EPISODE 1
13:20 EPISODE 2
18:19 EPISODE 3
26:01 EPISODE 4
29:48 EPISODE 5
37:29 EPISODE 6
43:00 EPISODE 7
46:20 EPISODE 8
53:05 FINAL THOUGHTS - บันเทิง
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Papa, kudos for posting that, for unrigging
LMAOOO
@@Cupidador Okay Xunami Muse realness!!
I CANT BRETAHEE
YALL ARE SO DAMN CHILDISH I LOVE IT😂😂😂😂😂
Ngl this joke isn’t funny anymore
I’m convinced that RuPaul thinks Scarlet is Pearl
Not really a Pearl. But a “Fans love her, but I don’t.”
@@ChillHills so a Pearl
@@johnnybaxter8078 Pearl love was a theory. Plus she didn’t care for Pearl’s attitude. While Scarlet has been on the season multiple times and have proved range in personality. But Scarlet just isn’t her cup of tea for some reason. Which isn’t common. There are queens that Rupaul doesn’t seem to care for. But they seem to be around cause the fans love them.
Pearl of the sea mean marina summer
im wondering if it’s cause Scarlet is Pearl’s drag daughter and Ru’s disdain for pearl just carries over like a 100 year long feud between the Hatfields and McCoys😩
“Stop wasting her time” about scarlet is EXACTLY what I’ve always thought. Like girl she brings so much, even when she makes jokes on the MainStage or talks to the judges it always feels like the audience sees her and appreciates what she brings, but Ru and Michelle particularly just don’t vibe with her and you can tell SO CLEARLY, like the facial expressions of Ru towards her always catch me so off guard because you can tell she just isn’t feeling it but I never know why
I feel this. Sure, we can maybe excuse her treatment on S11 and say she was kinda crunchy then, but the moment they completely overlooked her bubble burlesque number on AS6 was when I knew they would never give her the time of day
it was mentioned somewhere that since she was rumored to be Pearl's daughter Ru was never gonna warm up to her. But Pearl clarified she really wasn't her daughter
Scarlet seems really fake to me tho.
I think the problem with Scarlet is they come over as cold,smug and arrogant
Especially the roast, I might be delusional but her jokes were really funny and it almost felt like Ru was trying to hold herself from laughing to justify putting her in the bottom
Keta saying she flopped the season during the reunion crushed me, i really hope she can look back at it and be more proud now cause she is such an icon
Her lady prince look 😍
Fr...like babe she cracked me tf up in her acting challenge..it was soo chaotic💀💀
Probably thanks to Jonbers Blonde not having any idea who she was and calling her messy and needing of drag help.
She has some high standards for herself and it shows and shows beautifully. I think she’s still recovering from being cheated (pun intended) on her original season.
@@opheliaquim on both seasons 💀
This season also confirms to me that even if Pangina stayed all the way to the finale in the previous season, she wasn't going to win. They were always going to crown Blu or Baga, and they were going to make Pangina lose a lipsync to the edit, just like Marina.
Now can we advance to the timeline where Thailand is back on our TVs and Marina replaces Ru as international host? Thank youuuu
I've been saying the exact same thing - VSTW will never crown someone who isn't from the US or the host country
Exactly. So rigged. No more UK VS The world.
💀💀
It's fine, the fans decided the winner in the end, just like Jimbo/Pangina Marina will receive so many opportunities and international gigs, she's so well-received by fans worldwide.
@@xviolaa not really LOL
vs The World *really* needs to work out some way to balance out comedy challenges (or general improv challenges) so the language barrier doesn't fuck over the likes of LGD and Keta. Mind you, the US franchise also frequently treats contestants whose first language is Spanish as little more than a joke because their English isn't perfect.
They need the dollhouse Challenge so Bad, that Challenge is the pentacles of drag...the perfect excuse to go full brand and at the same time to eliminate the bad taste girl, and I have this feel they dont use it since from season 1, it was for excuses from production over production value against branding...but thinking that way is an bad taste for drama...Q slayed that challenge and lets put that one for all franchises...
It's simple. They need to get a more diverse judging panel. If it's international, why is the panel entirely US/UK? At least with Global All Stars apparently they'll have other people like the Javis.
"Mayhem Miller's request for a cauldron isn't ignored by production in this unrigged format. Mayhem strategically placed her talent show script inside the cauldron and thus slays the talent show so hard that RuPaul immediately crowns her the winner of the season."
I’m dead
😂😂💀
LMAOOOOO these will always send me 😂
I think the biggest example of LGD struggling to adapt was snatch game. She WON snatch game on France 1, but Ru screwed her over and she ended up low, which I was shocked about.
Yeah, Keta also won her 1st Snatch Game, and Marina was the second best in hers.
Thet should have played it safe and embody all the cliches of their countries without being too intellectual.
I’m french and LGD being Cotillard, or Marie Antoinette, or Emily on Paris depressed after discovering the actual France…
What I hate about the final result is that they could so easily get their way and avoid all this controversy.
Wanna crown Tia Kofi? Fine, don't make the final challenge a lip sync tournament. This was never a thing until season 9 of the regular series, it's not a thing in the UK series, there's really no point in having it if you're going to just crown whoever you want anyway.
Wanna always have a UK winner? Just make regular UK All Stars then. We're on season 5 of UK now, we have more than enough for a full cast.
Anyway, I still liked the season and liiiiived for this cast, so many iconic queens. I'm happy it hapenned the way it hapenned, it was just the final episode that had a sour taste for me.
Thankfully it's getting canceled after this season and to be replaced with Global All Stars ❤
@@johnnybaxter8078and they’re still gonna crown the us/uk/canada queen. ru genuinely hates esl queens atp
Drag Race UK All Stars NEEDS to happen, the sheer amount of queens who deserve a second chance while some in USA were on their 4th time competing.
I was thinking this exact same thing. If España can have an all stars, so can UK!
The editing of Mayhem’s and Gothy’s bombing being so unserious honestly kills me every time 🤣🤣🤣
The true winners of Miss IJBOL
Tbh I was kinda worried Scarlet was gonna get robbed again with her placements for the talent show and ball but I’m glad she got her flowers in the commercial challenge bc that was long overdue
Marina Summers not with a crown is a crime
It’s so stupid to see Marina not win. I cancelled WOW+
Keta MinaJ on this season reminded me a lot of Anita Wigl’It on Canada Vs. The World. Both were strong contenders who were early frontrunners on their seasons, only for them to be surprisingly sniped out when no one expected. And as a result, many wanted them back on a season like this. Yet with both of them, once they did these seasons, they belly-flop and don’t perform nearly as well as expected.
I think what you said is right, there’s the language/cultural barrier on Keta’s side and getting her humor across in the comedy challenges. Same with Anita, I think on a fashion-heavy franchise like Canada (when that’s her weakest element as a DA), plus not getting her Down Under humor to work on this (especially since I think RuPaul and Brooke-Lynn Hytes have different senses of humor), I think that hindered her. Maybe they should’ve swapped franchises, who knows.
Thats a great idea, Keta would have ate the first 2 episodes on Can. vs. The World, Girl Groups&Ball meanwhile Anita could be saved on TalentShow, and if she survived the Ball, she would have done good on the comedy challenges, I feel she would have felt more confident on a season with Ru and a DU sister.
dont insult keta like that... she's way better than anita
@@aridollx you better put some respect on Anita
An hour long?? We are being FED
I’m just so into unrigging right now.
the janet and kylie discography comment is so real cause it’s INSANE how good they are and yet are overlooked by current generations
"for every Kylie Sonique Love there's gonna be a Serena ChaCha"
The only thing I can is that they're going to invite Marina to "Global All-Stars" to draw the large and enthusiastic Filipino fan base to watch what is likely going to be the most expensive season of Drag Race ever produced. She can hold her own against any winner from the past five or so years. She epitomizes drag excellence and deserved better than the way she was treated on vs the World.
Great video, thank you Derek :) I just think you're overlooking LGD's impact a bit on this season: she had overall the best runway package (espescially from a high fashion pov, some pieces she wore were haute couture) and she offered us so many iconic moments/gifs (I mean, her hands applauding in the condom look, come on, and the way she lipsynched anyway in the Minogue's song during the French part)... But again, I'm French so I'm a littleee biaised 😂 Loved Marina and Hannah, and congrats to Tia for a deserved win at the end of the day 🎉
I'm rewatching this video back and just got to the part where he talks about LGD. He didn't undermine how well she did on the season. He mentioned that she had great runways and she literally brought the best fashion to the runways but in terms of storyline, she just didn't have a narrative. We were left with nothing but amazing fashion and a showmance with Tia Kofi. Definitely the producers' fault for not giving her more to do narratively though.
@@cuntydrag Oh it's my bad in that case, thanks for taking the time to respond!
I completely agree with your unrigging, and I usually have some disagreements! Like, Tia was great this season and deserved to be in the finale, but she was not the winner. It was Marina's season, and as you said, it was obvious they wanted to eliminate Marina before the final lipsync no matter what. So sad to have that level of unfairness in the finale of such an interesting season, but oh well.
Willam also said on Race Chasers, that the girls even thought Marina won after what they watched. 😮😮
We all did mama 🥹😢
Well marina isn’t as well rounded as Tia. Marinas not good at acting / comedy or improve. She’s good at dancing and runway. Tias good at performing/ comedy / improve / runway Tia also had the most growth and is a confessional favourite. Would love to see marina and lagrandevabd Hannah on allstars
@moyaxoxo5923 she is good at improv and comedy. It's just the language barrier pulling her back. If you watch her original season, she won an improv challenge while being placed high on Snatch Game
@@moyaxoxo5923also, if they're not going to crown someone not as "well-rounded" as others, why even bother having a lipsync for the crown?
@@moyaxoxo5923 this just shows how u didn't watch drph at all 💀💀. saying marina isn't good at comedy or improv when the first ever challenge she won was literally a comedy & improv challenge 😭😭. as a filo, marina *is* funny. but as the commenter above me said, the language barrier definitely held her back since filipino humor doesn't really translate well in english
The lip sync smackdown format is fine, but it doesn’t make sense when production want to push a queen that isn’t known for their lip sync skills (e.g. jinkx or tia) over another queen who is a lip sync assassin (e.g. monet or marina).
Can’t wait for Mayhem to win this season
I think with scarlet, she focuses too much on the competition and doesn't really bond with any of the queens. Brooke during the reunion episode on 11 told scarlet to her face that she didn't really care for her and lot of the girls on their season didn't and I think the same thing happened here on uk vs the world.
As a viewer, I don’t care for her much either. Idk, she irks me.
@llve-zzzshI definitely agree. I wouldn't call Hannah European though
@@sweetiedahling8137 You’re right, Australia last invit to Eurovision was last year, Australians aren’t honorary Europeans anymore.
@@JinMeowsoon Is that how they teach geography in some places? Damn we're doomed 🤣 Where the Phillipines there also?
@@sweetiedahling8137they were British Colonies at some point in History, so... 💁♀️🤭
They basically wanted an easier win for Tia that is why they cut Marina's lipsync.
Your comment about the rusical not being a rusical. It's based off of the musical Six about the six wives of Henry VIII, listening to it i 100% drew the parallells to the musical. But it's a very British reference- which you'd expect on a British show.
Keta’s run on this season was so heartbreaking for me. i didn’t see her original season prior (have since watched) but IMMEDIATELY fell in love with her and i felt like i was robbed of so much. early early early on i was really praying for a Marina, LGD, Scarlet, and Keta top 4💔💔
Yeah I adored Keta. She had so much more to give as well.
If you have WOW, DRH2 is worth the watch. She was so good, she literally dominated the entire season and had a different vibe compared to UKvTW
41:08 “Scarlet is very lucky that MARINA decided to keep her.” Come through Drag Race sound editing team!
It’s giving Tatianna “after eating MEXICAN” 😭
I think he deleted my comment mentioning this so I’m glad someone else clocked it
My takeaway is that you *need* to watch España season 1. That season is still one of my favorites. The cast is amazing, the challenges are fun, theres a good mix of drama and heart, and one of the best winners to ever grace the mainstage. The judges are also really kind and lovable for the first season. Its a very feel-good experience.
Agreed! It's my favorite of all the non-rupaul judged seasons. Just so many iconic endearing queens!
Babbyyyyyy Espana PERIOD, any szn including AS clears most franchises 💅🏿
@@beevonerdThe España talent shows prices the talent show works
España 1 is one of the best seasons of all time
ok i guess i’ll watch that one as my first non rupaul judged season :) thx ❤️🔥
55:07 it happened to Eureka at the season 10 finale. Apparently Aquaria fell twice during their lipstick but they knew they couldn't crown Kameron and they had already turned the fandom against Eureka so they made it a double win
55:50 Agreed, get rid of the lip syncs for the crown. You can do a lip sync tournament during the season, but not to determine the winner.
Also, I like having VsTheWorld seasons, but please have more queens, more countries represented and of course more episodes. But also, have less emphasis on comedy and humour challenges. Having a few is fine, but not as many compared to the number overall as humour is one of the more difficult thing to “translate” as it’s not just a language issue, but a cultural issue.
Wish they would stop the vs the world format if a uk girl is gonna win no matter what. Ru loved Marina, the audience loved Marina, she killed the season. No matter how hard her fans try to justify it Tia winning just didn't make sense.
19:15 You nailed it! As viewers, most of us didn’t get the nuances of what this challenge was about. I sure hope they gave the queens more details and guidelines off camera; because the tidbit RuPaul explained was clear as mud. I would have been easily confused as to what the assignment was. Now I’m Canadian 🇨🇦 and a native French speaker, but I’ve now spent more than half my life in an English environment, so I’d say I have a good command of the language. I don’t think that was the main issue with this challenge even though being ESL was definitely and added layer. I just think the parameters were not defined enough.
🇫🇷 here, I partly agree with you. The queens wrote their own script and had several takes. It’s the easiest type of the « speaking challenge ». That being said, LGD was clearly struggling during filming. No idea what her initial exposure to an English-speaking environnement was, but most french people who are fluent in English either live in Francophone countries or keep to Francophone circles if they’re expat. In school we’re just taught enough to read and write in English and hold simple conversations. I took the Advanced English course in high school and I had to read a book and give an analysis of a random chapter to a jury, just like we do in French Literature Class. We’re simply not trained to speak English here, it’s not valued. People actually learn to read/write/listen on their own with the internet and English speaking media, but again. not to speak it.
Being suddenly put in an English speaking environnement is on a whole another level.
@@JinMeowsoon One thing I want to add before I focus on the language part, it is the cultural aspect. It’s not just about being able to understand and express oneself in English, culture is a huge aspect. Sense of humour is a big thing; or traditions such as roasts that, as per La Grande Dame, aren’t so much a thing in France. So having to do something like that (and we saw with Scarlet that even if you master the language part, you can still flop! She thought otherwise though) is a huge undertaking if you’re not familiar what it’s supposed to look like. Or when I was watching DR France2, I was taken aback to the fact that it is common to have games at weddings?! We don’t so that kind of stuff in Canada. So even if I understand what’s going on (a few differences in vocabulary, but not an issue to understand…for example, “une doudoune” as shown in one of the episode…never used that word in my life!) I would have been ill-equipped to come up with ideas as I have no point of reference. Or just thinking of the Rusical for DRFrance2, it was well loved and received in the US despite the audience lack of references; that shows how good it was. They are not familiar with Notre-Dame de Paris or Starmania. They would have appreciate even more how good it was! Anyhow, all this to say that cultural background is a big deal on those vsTW, and this should be taken into account when determining the challenges; and having cast members from more franchises might also assist with that.
Now the language barrier:
That’s definitely a huge factor. I was born and grew up in Québec, 🇨🇦 but I moved to the West Coast of Canada a tad over 25 years ago, (before LGD was born…ironically, we have the same birthday and she’s currently half my age!) A lot of people here in British Columbia (Vancouver area) have English as an additional language; most inhabitants come from somewhere else in the world…you don’t encounter many people who’s grandparents were actually born in BC. So it’s part of our everyday life. If I look back to when I first moved here, I started working for the government within 6 months, and even though the office I worked at was providing services in both English and French, my position was English only, and the first few months, I struggled especially when working the switchboard, often talking to individuals who barely spoke English as well. Anyhow, I’ve seen some YT videos from LGD, and I feel she can express herself quite well. That being said, it’s another story when you’re under pressure/competition setting, and even more if the “assignment” isn’t clear! I’ve witness the same situation for US DR with queens with Spanish as a first language, or Nicky Doll. It wasn’t as challenging on Canada’s Drag Race with the queens from Québec who have French as a first language, or the many queens who immigrated to Canada coming from countries where English isn’t their mother tongue. There were some struggles, but I think the overall environment was more conducive and aware of this dynamic. And I also noticed it on DR Belgium where many queens have French as a learned language.
Clearly Rigged but still Marina got so much exposure and I'm happy for our Filipina Queen
SERENA CHACHA MENTIONED LETSGOOO CHACHARINAS
girl 💀
I was really rooting for Marina Summer. She's such a icon with so much talent!! But kudos Tia kofi for winning for snatching that crown
I can't wait to see how you say that Mayhem shouldn't be the first out and should've won the season
Literally she's so bad at Drag Race
@@Octobris ik
I would love if at the end of these type of videos you put a track record table with the placements you think wouldve been fair, either for these or for the "what if this season wasnt rigged?" I think it would be a cute addition 😆
As much as I love Tia Kofi and I'm happy she finally got some $$$, I couldn't help but feel like they pushed the HELL out of her.
I agree, that rusical win was so fishy
During the season itself I felt pretty much all of her placements were fair (maybe she deserved a bottom 3/low instead of safe once or twice, but otherwise I didn't disagree with any of them), but we all know lipsyncing is not Tia's strong suit so the finale just felt like AS7 all over again.
Pushed the HELL out of her is such a stretch.
@@AnRuixuan if this was AS7 all over again, Marina would have won, because she slayed the whole season 😂
Mama that finale was garbage
@@vanderson83 I just meant in the sense that they had a clear winner of the overall season in mind, who is someone not known for their lipsyncing ability...and yet they decided to make the finale a lipsync for the crown and editing the hell out of the lipsyncs to justify the result.
I truly don’t think I understand Tia Kofi. With so many people in love with her I just…. I think she’s pretty mid? I can understand that not every drag queen is your cup of tea, but Tia’s talent is just so middle of the road. I don’t dislike her, I don’t love her it’s just meh.
I think it's a mix of things - she's just a kind and warm human being, she seems very self-aware and like she has her ego well in check, but also seems to have good social awareness. She had some visible struggles, but she's funny in this low-key way that is daring but unassuming. And all of that combine makes her easily likable and relatable.
I can't believe its already over .. like i remember being excited for promos like yesterday!
I just found out Tia Kofi won because of EVERYTHING I’ve seen about Marina Summers on social media. I assumed she won 😂
But I LOVE Tia Kofi, she’s one of my favorite queens ever and I’m so happy she got her flowers
Tia Kofi has no talent
They can also show the full lipsync battle so at least audience would see the full picture of what happened.
You're impression of RuPaul's laugh at 28:42 fucking killed me, I rewound it like 10 times omg 😂😂😂😂
They should stop doing VS The World if they're not going to help the ESL queens because it's not fair for them. I feel Ru has always been like that to non-English queens like Spanish speaking queens in the US.
wtf does production have against cauldrons man, first Thorgy and now Mayhem?? lmao
This is the probably the best Vs the World season. My favorite Top 4 ever! Although I was rooting for Hanna to win it's good to see a queen with the actual best track record win a Vs the World season.
Been waiting for you to make a riggory video of uk vs the world 2
The tia hate this time is so forced and NOT deserved at all. Was she pushed?? Yes, a little bit not as much as the bitter fans make it to seem, but she literally deserves 3/4 of her wims and overall did a SOLID GOOD JOB in this season. Calling her slurs and horrible things on social media while discrediting her win is disgusting behavior and NOT needed at all.
Thats right. Theres no need to call her slurs. Just call her terrible things and discrediting her win is already enough
@@bosoudang you ARE the problem with this fandom. I feel sorry for small minded people like your sad little type. omg... this fandom is so frustrating the last few years.
Where did you see people being awful to Tia? I only hang out on the RPDR subreddits and on TH-cam and I mostly saw people calling out production for putting Tia and Marina in this shit situation… some people were critiquing some of Tia’s looks and lipsyncs compared to the other queens, but they weren’t being insulting.
Yeah. Tia is a winner, having 1 win or some high placements that are iffy are normal. I didnt agree with Sasha winning the ball, i could see an argument for Thorgy winning over Bob in the RuCo's Empire challenge and many other examples. Its legit racism and bitterness for Marina, which i share the feeling, but it aint Tia's fault.
@@JinMeowsoon lol it's mostly the new new fans that only got into drag race because of marina
I don't understand anyone who says tia won against lagrande. Like no offense but it was maybe the worst lip-sync preformance of the season.
Agreed re: the Hannah vs Marina final lipsync. I saw so many people claiming Hannah was "channeling" Anastacia when in reality, there is far more to channeling Anastacia than just putting on some sunglasses. I fully agree that they gave Hannah the win to avoid having Marina in the top 2.
The difference with Hannah's lipsync was that she hit every beat, every riff, every sub-line. She knew that song from front to back and to me, that's more of an impressive lipsync than Marina's just this once. And I adore Marina.
@@shaedomoonI think the way it was edited was just unfair because it showed Hannah’s highlights and cut out Marina’s highlights so in comparison, it looked like Hannah did a better job. They could’ve kept them both in the frame since they were both front and center at the climax of the song but they chose not to do that.
Drag Detective riggory video after school, I'm sold 😊
I thought for a bit that La Grande Dame was being pushed for a bit up until like mid season. But I do really wish there was a way ESL queens can be treated more fairly in comedy challenges, maybe make them perform in their own language and just translate?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEREK!!!
With Jonbers on this season, it reminded me a bit of Veronica Green on UK3. Veronica was unfortunately disqualified on UK2 due to her health after lockdown, but was invited back the next season. And from what it sounds like, she didn't get much chance to watch herself back or grow as an artist before going on UK3 because she had to scrounge a whole new runway package and get new stuff together at the last minute. As a result, she was barely prepared and, just like Jonbers, ended up going out in the third episode. I could see Veronica as a solid option for a future Vs. The World season or something, but rushing back when she wasn't ready definitely hindered her, just like it hindered Jonbers this time.
I need a whole season of Kylie and Janet lipsyncs, their discographies are incredible
9:36... what are your top 10 queens actually?:D
I'm sorry but Tia still did not win the last lipsync at all. She was STILL stiff. Also, it's odd that any other queen who'd smash a bottle on stage would get more slack or be called "messy" yet for Tia it's funny and made her win the reason?
Tia just doesn’t give me winner polish. The clothes still wear her. Marina should have won this, hands down. No contest.
Just finished rewatching DRH2 after watching it a few years ago. Keta is such a star, I’m sad she didn’t really get to take off and have the same publicity like Marina or LGD were able to achieve as she was also a frontrunner on her original season. Like man, she was insanely good.
Regardless I hope she’s proud, even one win from Rupaul is huge. Would love to see her back or My Little Puny for a later season sometime. ❤️
I was literally thinking last night “I wonder when the Drag Detective is gonna post another video” and voila! Now I need to watch UKvtW2 😁
I strongly disagree with all the results of the lip sync tournament in the finale. Beyond that though, this season felt surprisingly fair. People saying Tia was pushed but I don’t really see it. Maybe low in the ball, the talent show, or the dancing challenge, but never a bottom. Like derek mentioned too, only one of her wins felt questionable.
Slight nitpick but its a pet peeve… “she could care less” makes no sense! Thats suggesting that they do actually care and maybe could care a little less
Just say “couldn’t care less” that gets the point across perfectly 🤣
Great video though as always! 😊
Yep I agree. Couldn't care less makes more sense.
I'd love to see a "riggory of drag race france" video!
I wouldn’t say Keta had a language barrier, considering her snatch game win on DRH was in English. Whilst LGD is also fluent, she obviously had a much harder time with comedy, which I think is unfair. Marina def did the best with her snatch game and roast, given English isn’t her first language
There are tons of things I'd like to say but I'll make it brief, for a nicer quick read:
1. Excellent recap, especially from the second half to the end.
2. I think you really need to watch La Grande Dame's OG Season for a better understanding of her processes and do it with a wider vision / criteria, mate, 'cause you give me the impression that you judge everybody from a very Americanized point of view; we're talking about International Queens here, henny.
3. The way you talk about Kylie Minogue, OH MY GAWWWD!!! Bravo, henny, B-R-A-V-O!!!!! Those were some of the sweetest and loveliest words I've ever heard from a TH-camr, talking about Her on a context completely out of the usual ones. Actually, I don't think anyone else addressed this at all, so, thank You a million times for doing it!!!
That's all. 😉😘💖😁👍👍
I don't agree that Scarlet should be high on the Talent Show, she was weaky and wasn't really funny. But I think Tia Kofi shoud be, at least, low. She had simply no stage presence and was only walking. She couldn't even get a more energetic kick!
are we getting an unrigging video of a vTW season this time around?
I feel that after it happens twice, they will find it very hard to get queens to sign up for UK vs the World.
At the same time, looking at this season we had four international queens who were among the best in their franchise and UK queens who were all interesting picks but had one win among the four of them (and that one was shared and let's be fair, Choriza was the least likely to have been picked to get that win over River, Ella or Vanity if it was a solo win). They clearly cannot attract their best talent for these seasons.
Unfortunately I think that the comedy challenges will always be hard for queens from other countries because of the language barrier of course, but also because of culture in general. Humor is subjective. I'm french canadian, fully bilingual, and the only challenges that genuienly make me laugh on RPDR are the ones from France and Canada (especially the Quebec queens). I understand all the jokes from the english speaking seasons too, but the french ones just hit different for me.
This is amazing love your content
I feel like they got it right doing a heavy performance season for VS the world. They could've even taken out the commercial episode and made it another design challenge or even a makeover, which is something anyone can do regardless of their language. Its like you said, we didn't feel it as much on other global seasons because the majority of the cast has english as their first language or they speak english very well. This was the first season where you can actually see the queens struggling to keep up with the language (specially Keta).
As a French person, I don't really understand why la grande dame says that we don't roast and we don't shade because it is just not true we do it a lot. We are really sarcastic people we even have a term for that which is second degre (second grade) which basically mean that we don't mean things literally we just mean it for the joke... not saying that she should have donc better though, comedy in an other language is very complicated !
omg im sOOOOOOO excited for drag duel season 2 😭😭
tbf i did think Scarlet deserved the top 4
First episode deserved high
Second (for me) also deserved high but there could be a case because the first look was so weak compared to the one she made
Third episode totally crushed
Fourth episode also think she could’ve been top 2 instead of Tia but Tia also did awesome
Fifth episode totally deserved Top 2 lets be real
Sixth she didn’t deserved the bottom because individually she did better than La Grande Dame and Tia but Choriza pulled her down
And finally in the roast it was her first time really deserving that bottom but with the track record she had i think she should’ve stayed
That said i think it was an amazing top 4 (one of the strongest) don’t want to discredit anyone and everyone did awesome and give us an amazing amazing season
I agree!
Who do you think Hannah should have eliminated at the Roast episode?
@@goddessathena6940 well if they had the track record i talked about i think it would be La Grand Dame even though i love her so much
@@HermenejildoPimiento Respect. I think so too as well.
I love that I agree with everything you said in this video 100%😌
The good thing you haven't done the Nymphia Wind video is that now you can talk about her winning and her winning edit (which I think wasn't even there, was it?)
Yeah in the Snatch Game Ru wasn't playing with certain queens and it pissed me off. She took the rules of improv and said "nah" instead of "yes and"
I like what S16 did for the lip sync battle - making it an extra episode/prize feels right.
I could watch all of this series queens on a loop, AS7 rules applied.
Just a fantastic cast: gorgeous runways, so much talent, so much positivity.
Loved it, best VS series yet.
It’s like Derek knew I just smoked a bowl n needed something to listen to ☺️💖
Despite the langage barrier the roast got me cackling ! The rusical :Seven:, the Strictly challenge and the final challenge was the best succession of challenges I have seen for a long time !
It has been a treat to watch the whole season, I have not enjoyed an "all star" / "spin off" for a long time as well. The only thing that made me cringe was Snatch Game, tough watch and the Family edition was definetely the nail on the coffin...
The interactions between the queens is so touching and feel genuine ! So lucky to have met all those queens
Followed your advice and listened to The Velvet Rope… holy shit it’s so good
You didn't mention who SHOULD be top or bottom in the talent show instead of Chorizo and Scarlet! Curious to see what you think lol
he will say when he does the unrigging video
Velvet Rope changed my life when I first listened to it. Will be playing Body Language after I get a chance to listen to Ray of Light
I've never agreed more with you on a video, is like we both have ESPN 😮. Marina and Scarlett were my favs and also Hannah
I agree that for BBC it makes sense for them to always have a British queen winning. But I wonder if other queens will now want to participate when now its pretty obvious they will never win just because of being non-british. At this point, they should just do an Only UK All Stars like Spain did and leave only a Global All Stars instead of having these sillies vsTheWorld
Thank you for the Janet Jackson love. The Velvet Rope is my fave album ever! Glad younger people are discovering it :)
It's such a shame what happened to Keta on the season. She is really funny, but you can clearly see her struggling. In the Netherlands most of us are basically raised in English as well, so I was surprised. On camera it seemed like she didn't really connect with the other queens (while I thought she might with Marina based on the first episode).
Translating Dutch humor is difficult to fit American humor. She was just totally out of her element. I was kinda hoping this would spark a season 3 of Holland, but with the franchise getting excluded from global all-stars it feels like it's truly dead.
I do feel like LGD was getting saved from the bottom on multiple occassions was very obvious tho, as much as I love her.
Omg your impression of Ru’s laugh 🤣
I personally loved this season. I liked how little focus the American/UK queens got compared to last time. Like LGD, Hannah, and Marina were the highlights of the season for me and it ended up being one of my faves!
So now that we’ve seen Gothy play with fire, can we get Adore’s planned talent show number from AS2?
Also, I forget where I saw this (maybe here,) but I recall someone saying Drag Race Sverige got it right when they opted out of a final lip sync because it was pointless in that they already knew who would win. (Don’t take my word as Gospel as I’m paraphrasing someone I watched awhile back.)
Not sure how true that is but it’s a mindset I’d like to see adopted on seasons with a clear winner.
There should be an All Stars: Design edition. Where the queens just design costumes for the entire season. I would 100% watch that.
I was rooting for Marina the entire time, and I also knew they’d never let her win. The RPDR franchise seems to hate Asians for whatever reason-they’re never, ever allowed to win, and this isn’t the first time something like this has happened, though it’s the most obviously rigged. So disappointed.
I’ve been watching from day one and know many of the queens personally from living in LA before the show. My bias shows because i was good friends with Delta Work back in the day, and third season was my favorite. But from the first episode to me this is the best season of drag race ever.
There are a lot of things I find unfair about the verse the world season. Including the favoritism Ru shows to most Ru girls, production favoring queens they've worked with before, no leeway for the language barrier and cultural comedy differences. It's pretty annoying to see another UK queen win the UK vs the world even tho Tia didn't do anything wrong.
You’re right about Keta I feel.
I’m Dutch and I could tell the was translating in her head every time she spoke. I’m sure she understands English perfectly well, but flawlessly speaking another language is difficult regardless.
The worst part of riggory and production is that some Qs are deliberately overlooked and don't get their flowers. And that's just mean of the jgs. Yes - Scarlet and Kitta and Arancha [ reminds me of a Spanish Adore Delano] deserved more chance, more time, and more flowers.
On the 1st episode, Arantxa should have been in the bottom. She basically did nothing, and her number went nowhere. I would have put Gothy low-safe because she looked uncomfortable but the fire thing was actually cool.
I think “starstruck” isn’t the term I would use for the queens who are competing in a second language, they’re each arguably the clear highest calibre contenders.