Is the Grand Seiko Spring Drive the BEST Movement? Spring Drive vs Hi-Beat 36000, Which is Better?

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  • Shop watches including the brand Grand Seiko: www.exquisitet...
    Today we're checking out a couple watches from Grand Seiko and trying to decide which movement is better - the Grand Seiko Spring Drive or the Hi-Beat Automatic. Both are high end and outstanding movements from Grand Seiko that offer a slightly different owner experience, so if you are trying to decide between one or the other this is the video for you!
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  • @JustBlueFish
    @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Shop watches including the brand Grand Seiko: www.exquisitetimepieces.com

  • @WrongTimeWatch
    @WrongTimeWatch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I had four Grand Seiko watches, and now i have just one, which has a spring drive movement. It is so mesmerizing watching that smooth second hand sweep.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you’re gonna have just one, that’s not a bad choice.

  • @julianc.1811
    @julianc.1811 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Spring drive all day. Everybody does mechanical watches, at all levels. Only Seiko has spring drive, it's their signature technology. Plus, the smoooth second hand and accuracy are big advantages (for me).

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Smooth sweep for the win!

    • @jollyrob
      @jollyrob หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wish more people would add the important (for me) to their opinions.

    • @bwcastillo
      @bwcastillo 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I couldn’t agree more. If you’re gonna pony up the dough for a GS, I feel like you almost HAVE to get spring drive. Or even quartz for that matter.

    • @TheSH1N1GAM1
      @TheSH1N1GAM1 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bwcastilloAll of their movements seem amazing, but I personally totally agree with you. Can’t go wrong, but I want the spring drive.

  • @ahmedmorir3658
    @ahmedmorir3658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Welcome back, we missed you.
    I think the spring drive is the best movement out there

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! I posted a vid last week too in case you missed it. I’m gonna try to get back to making videos more regularly.

  • @user-zm4zh2bs3x
    @user-zm4zh2bs3x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The spring drive movement is the reason I bought a Grand Seiko, and I love it. Gorgeous fit and finish, looks lovely on my wrist, and the silky smooth sweep of the second hand is indeed mesmerizing. I also love the power reserve complication. I love that it combines the best of both worlds: the "soul" and spirit of a mainspring, rotor, and mechanical gear train; and the precision of quartz regulation. I have many great quartz, manual, and automatic watches, and asking me if I'd like quartz, mechanical, or spring drive is a bit like asking me if I'd prefer ice cream, flourless chocolate cake, or apple pie. My answer to both questions would be, "Yes." 😀

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The power reserve is nice I forgot to mention it I think but I agree.

  • @user-cx8zc6rh8z
    @user-cx8zc6rh8z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks Guy.
    I DO love my Spring Drive! Mine gains 1/3 of a second each day, every day. It is the evolutionary equivalent of going from a prop airplane to a jet!
    -and that sweep is mesmerizing!

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good stuff! That’s accurate!

  • @chia-mingyang5804
    @chia-mingyang5804 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Definitely Spring Drive for me because it's unique and way more accurate and reliable.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe both, now that I've been thinking about it? haha!

    • @blueridgeocean
      @blueridgeocean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Has it been proven to be more reliable? When you say reliable are you talking ruggedness or longer service intervals?

    • @chia-mingyang5804
      @chia-mingyang5804 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blueridgeocean Both

  • @Dadication3
    @Dadication3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wearing my snowflake as I type. Thank you for your excellent explanation and comparison review. My snowflake is so good, it is so accurate staying on time for almost an entire month, it feels incredible, the sweep is mesmerizing, unless you’ve had one on, you may not be able to make the best choice for yourself. It took GS many years to complete the spring drive movement, which is inspiring for me as an RN, to always do my best for my patients. I have adjusted the bracelet to a perfect fit and find no issues with the bracelet as it matches the lightweight minimalist vibe of the watch, and I like having the short clasp that fits so well with no extra holes for microadjust. All that said, being a GS fan as a result of the snowflake, I’d love to have the titanium high beat version that is in your vid.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Enjoy that Snowflake it's a keeper for sure!

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I just decided for the 36.000 bph, and against the spring drive, purely for maintenance reasons. I live in Sweden and sending it to Japan for maintenance is not an option given the import tax (equivalent to 1.500 Euro) I just paid to Swedish customs to import it. I can already imagine the trouble with customs if I were to send it to Japan for maintenance of the spring drive movement.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good point that makes a lot of sense for your use case. And like I mentioned there’s really no bad choice, heck I want one of each!

    • @toms8517
      @toms8517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Check with your AD. I know that the UK Seiko Centre now services Spring Drive movements.

    • @ryanshredz9743
      @ryanshredz9743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Except you’re probably gonna still end up sending it directly to Grand Seiko when it needs a service since most local watchmakers won’t be familiar enough with or want to work on a modern Grand Seiko hi-beat movement… At least a Spring Drive watch should go for a very long time without needing a service. Anyway, they are both amazing and world-class movements, own them both.

    • @ProtomanZ
      @ProtomanZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are official service centers in the eu. For movement servicing it probably isn't necessary to send it to Japan. Also the hi beat has a proprietary escapement so I doubt there are many local watchmakers who will service those as well.

    • @alexandersimpson3638
      @alexandersimpson3638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ryanshredz9743you don't pay duty on the value of the watch again if sending to Japan, as you're not selling it. There's likely to be some
      tax payable, but that's on the cost of the service. The watch is not subject to customs, the tax should be levied by the service centre. This is called a duty paid declaration, so is not subject any import tax when being returned.
      I've personally not serviced watches unless they start to drift on accuracy.
      I've a SW220 movement which to date is less than 3 seconds a week fast and it has not missed a beat in nearly 13 years.
      I cannot see the Seiko movement needing much in the way of servicing.

  • @mattsa
    @mattsa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for such a balanced and thoughtful comparison.
    I have an automatic GS and planning to buy a spring drive. They can live side by side!
    I have a large mechanical watch collection but my most worn work watch is my Seiko Astron GPS.
    Had it for 9 years.
    It’s great having 100% confidence in the time and date. And when you travel it’ll change to the local time after pushing a button or two.
    Looks great too!
    I am surprised how little coverage the Astron gets.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’ve never had a chance to check out an Astron, they’re interesting but just not available anywhere near me that I’ve seen. I’d like to do a video on one if I can get the opportunity.

    • @Dadication3
      @Dadication3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed on the Astron awesomeness.

  • @scottsj4625
    @scottsj4625 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Spring drive is amazing for accuracy and love how the second hand never seems to pause at all. It is mesmerizing to watch it. It is too expensive for me right now but I can't help but admire the movement. I had a friend who had two of them one was the spring drive and the other was a high-beat movement. Neither one had micro adjusts which I think Grand Seiko dress watches really need to add to get a good fit. It is not cheap and you would expect micro adjustments on the fly for the price they cost. Thanks for the review, GUY. I hope you are doing better. :)

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching I appreciate it!

  • @rayvalentin8847
    @rayvalentin8847 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello anyone heard of a Precisionist? Best accuracy plus 10 seconds gain or lost a whole calendar year! Oh yeah and the sweep hand is so MESMERIZING!!!

  • @ryanshredz9743
    @ryanshredz9743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Simple answer: both are world-class movements. Own both.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both is the right answer!

  • @penny0G
    @penny0G 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The spring drive is a nice innovation in the watch world. They are high quality watches made with mostly old school techniques and materials it could be serviced and maintained for decades no problem. I think the addition of quartz for accuracy is brilliant. I'd love a spring drive

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank for watching I appreciate it!

  • @corneliubogdan
    @corneliubogdan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the snowflake for 3 years now and it is a keeper. I do wish to get one of these hi beat ones also.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of each definitely sounds like the way to go!

  • @barryvercueil2346
    @barryvercueil2346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's Spring Drive for me!!!! Cheers

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good choice!

  • @Z-S-H
    @Z-S-H 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the 36k mechanical movement is amazing and a work of art but the spring drive for those of us that love technological innovation the spring drive is just the epitome of watch making and is beautiful in its sweep. Grand Seiko is amazing no matter what you cannot really go wrong with one and if I was investing in a luxury time piece a spring drive GS would be what I would spend my money on.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, and thanks for watching!

  • @dr.kevinmoore8889
    @dr.kevinmoore8889 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Spring Drive has a much of a soul as any other mechanical watch. The components are put into place, and the watch is lifeless until it is wound what's that energy is release, it drives the drivetrainand that sets things into motion.

  • @billcore6295
    @billcore6295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes SD is the best movement ❤❤❤. I do own a snowflake but also own a VC, several Omegas and a few Rolexes (blah)…. My Omega globemaster has the second best in my collection… no not the VC but the polishing of the case on my 56 is absolutely amazing and only GS touches it

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said! Thanks for sharing your experience!

  • @Valera_Scotland
    @Valera_Scotland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just looked up images of Naples. You are so lucky to live there! What a gorgeous place. Scotland needs that weather, but if it had it, our population would go from 5 to 20 million

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Come visit some time!

    • @Valera_Scotland
      @Valera_Scotland 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustBlueFish would love to! I have a friend near Chicago and want to visit him
      But that's miles away!

  • @gregs.8895
    @gregs.8895 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spring Drive seconds hand sweep is absolutely memorizing. Don't have one at this time, but one is eventually on the list. Just have to get through the others first.

  • @tab3Gator
    @tab3Gator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spring Drive = fewer services due to decreased friction. HB = more services due to increased friction

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point. Thanks

  • @Gumby56
    @Gumby56 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok, I'll say it. Buy both!!-

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is the way!

  • @BenMwatches
    @BenMwatches 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Went with the newer high beat
    In the white birch
    Love it

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The white birch, nice choice!

  • @altbinhax
    @altbinhax 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your great review, and accurate description of each technology. The spring drive is the culmination of quartz/mechanical marriage and deserves its place in horology. Aa an owner of a snowflake I can say that GS achieved the greatest perfection of watchmaking. GPS and electronics have prevailed but the springdrive is unrivaled as the culmination of watch technology in the late twentieth century. It may survive the apoclaypse.

  • @az7az7
    @az7az7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own several of both and the spring drive is more accurate and longer running, for sure. My hi-beat is off 8 seconds per day and spring drive, none, really. However, I always seem to prefer to wear my hi-beat. Not sure why - emotions, not objective preference. I suppose I have my phone if I really need an exact time.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice, it's good to have both for sure!

  • @rickjason215
    @rickjason215 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought the Snowflake when it first came to the US. I took off my Rolex and it became my everyday driver. I have bought several great watches, but the Snowflake is still my favorite.

  • @JasonCheungNY
    @JasonCheungNY 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Synced my Snowflake a month ago. In that time, it gained 2.5 seconds. That's insane accuracy even when compared to other quartz watches/clocks.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that is insanely good!

    • @4by_yotaguy373
      @4by_yotaguy373 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've had a Seiko solar quartz for 9 years (it was a gift), and the only time I adjust it is twice a year for daylight savings. Each time it's 10 secs ahead. It's the only quartz I own, in a box full of mechanicals. It's not high-end or desirable to most, but it's been good.

  • @blueridgeocean
    @blueridgeocean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is how I rank the main wrist watch movements from most to least favorites. Mechanical, spring drive, automatic, smart watch and quartz. [I may rate the quartz higher when considering marathon quartz watch]

  • @daletaylorjr.4786
    @daletaylorjr.4786 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If i were limited to only one Grand Seiko, i’d have to go with spring drive. If not financially restricted, i see a few od each i’d like. 😅

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and for the support Dale!

  • @jeholloway2
    @jeholloway2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the spring drive however I fear that repairs and maintenance might be daunting so I would go for automatic hi beat.

  • @Miroslaw-rs8ip
    @Miroslaw-rs8ip หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Spring drive is great however service is a problem since it has to be sent back to Japan and it takes a long time to get back.

  • @Leftystrat
    @Leftystrat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spring drive are great but you can’t take to any watchmaker to fix-adjust if required, it’s just logistics servicing issues I don’t want to deal with imho😊

  • @TimRobertsen
    @TimRobertsen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Spring Drive all the way! (although I've never owned or seen IRL one:p)
    I'd also want a 32 beats pr. sec quartz watch. I don't know if anyone makes them, but it certainly would be a cool oddity

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've never heard of a 32 bps quartz, that's interesting. I'll have to google that.

    • @TimRobertsen
      @TimRobertsen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustBlueFish Neither have I, but it would be really cool! I'd bet it would eat batteries! Heheh:p The highest that I know of is Bulova, with their 16 bps.

  • @InGratitudeIam
    @InGratitudeIam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You were definitely fair in your presentation, Guy. Tough choice. Both of these Grand Seikos are beautiful! Which type of watch survived in space during one of the Apollo missions? :))
    Ten seconds per year (or month) is tough to beat. It's great seeing you again!

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and stick around I should have more videos coming in the coming days and weeks!

  • @JuanSegarra-td6yr
    @JuanSegarra-td6yr 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the workmanship of GS, but the bracelet don’t have Tfit glide lock. For $6000 plus is not right. I bought the gmt but gave it to my daughter’s boyfriend

  • @georgegardiner1888
    @georgegardiner1888 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi how long will movement last 10. 20 years?

  • @dmks2146
    @dmks2146 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I went for the 9f and haven't bought a mechanical watch since. the accuracy has spoiled me.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice, enjoy it!

  • @Koishishibaman
    @Koishishibaman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two very different calipers. Have a sd sbga111 that runs at 0 sec a day. A sbga429 that runs at plus .5 a day. Outstanding accuracy. Really like watching the lime green second hand on the 429. Fun!
    Also have a newer high beat 80 hr GS. Beautiful movement to look at. The second hand does sweep smoothly for mechanical. The accuracy? Plus 6 sec a day. Hmmmm. I have old 4R divers that run at plus 3.
    Think i am a little disappointed in the gs hb accuracy. I have zodiacs that have been factory regulated....plus 1-2 sec a day.
    Just got an older omega ti seamaster. 14 yrs old. Low beat at 25500 rate. It is the 8500 movement. In 5 days it is running at about minus one second. Impressive!
    Why does my new gs hb not run at a few sec a day?😠
    I have a 50 yr old hb king seiko that runs at plus 2-3 . That is very cool.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow great accuracy on the SBGA!

  • @suvidhvongpunsawad4
    @suvidhvongpunsawad4 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Youarerightiamveryhappythatiacquired asbge285 spring drive

  • @MrAkaroc
    @MrAkaroc 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what model is this watch 6:39?

  • @AdAce21
    @AdAce21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yes.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @michaelblunt2506
    @michaelblunt2506 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved my spring drive diver right up until it broke! 3 month turnaround Japan repair and it’s a no for me..

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ouch 3 months is pretty rough, I hope it's all in tip top shape now!

    • @michaelblunt2506
      @michaelblunt2506 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustBlueFish No I ended up selling it as lost confidence in the GS line..
      hey great work on your channel. Been watching your videos for year. Great content.

  • @Dialandhands
    @Dialandhands 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Personally, I’d try to get a spring drive if I ever buy a grand seiko. The autos are fantastic but I want it because you can’t buy that kind of movement from any other brand.

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it's very unique and that's cool.

  • @Dnooch74
    @Dnooch74 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have both and the spring drive is by far the most accurate. Spring drive is accurate to +.20 seconds a day, everyday. My high beat is way faster at +8 a day. Look online and you’ll see that many have GS high beats running at +20 per day and way beyond. I am so disappointed in this highly regarded and advertised high beat. I can’t believe how much I paid for my white birch and the movement is over engineered and apparently unable to be regulated. Buyer beware!

  • @darrenfry4695
    @darrenfry4695 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    S.D i.m.o is the best movement in the world at the moment.

  • @morgan97475
    @morgan97475 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd love to have a GS with spring drive. But I have a rule of only on watch per brand. As I have a Seiko 5, should my rule keep me from getting a GS?

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah you can have a Seiko and a Grand Seiko they are effectively different brands.

    • @morgan97475
      @morgan97475 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustBlueFish youre not helping me save money

  • @WristWatcher
    @WristWatcher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spring Drive is the most accurate mechanical movement in the world.

  • @kelvin.008
    @kelvin.008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And have to service it in Japan.. no thanks 😊

    • @JustBlueFish
      @JustBlueFish  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not the end of the world. Just wear a different watch while it’s away.