NOW I GET IT!! When James Marsters says that there were Star Trek and Space 1999 fans and they hated each other. Juliet Landau's father was Commander John Koenig on Space 1999!!
Not so sure about that, even before social media they(tv shows in general) still cared a lot about public opinion, stuff like killing off unpopular characters was not uncommon. They still got fan mail, loads of fans wanted them to kill off Riley and Dawn, they did intentionally try to make Dawn less whiney because of it. The show was also heavily censored by the network, probably far more than it would have been by social media. They originally wanted Cordelia to be black, but the network thought an interracial relationship between her and Xander would be too controversial. It also took a long time before they allowed to show Willow and Tara kiss, Josh had to fight extremely hard for that.
@@avon8794 if that's true about Cordelia that makes a lot of sense as the actress who was Kendall, the second season slayer, originally auditioned for Cordelia
At the 18:34 mark, they talk a bout a sort of reboot but with a different slayer. Benson mentions that the new slayer will be a person of color. I thought "Buffy"was well defined, because wasn't the slayer (from Jamaica) of color, wasn't the principal's (DB Woodside) mother a slayer and of color, and a couple of the "Potentials" of color?
True! But it’s not the same as having a main character of color. When all the main characters are white and only the secondary characters are people of color it doesn’t really shine a light on the characters/cast of color, which is why having a main character that’s not white would be seen as more diverse than what Buffy originally did. It’s just more about who gets the spotlight. :)
@@sdab4856 The Buffy character was based on a sort of "Valley Girl" cheerleader type and the race was just based on that type. Now here they want to just base the character on primarily the race? It will be interesting to see how the new Bat Woman works out. Now if they base the new Slayer on say an WNBA player of color, that might have some potential.
@@liamroscoe596 Well, that's the first thing they mentioned of the new slayer, she will be black. In the original, the slayer was defined as kind of a ditsy blonde cheerleader. That's the last thing you would expect a Vampire Slayer to be and that is what made the character interesting. Not coming up with a good back story first and just mentioning the race of the character, makes the back story look hardly important.
@@dttruman that does not answer the question about the character being based on her race at all. they arent writing the show theyre speculating. theyre talking about maybe having more diversity the second time around why would they sit there and come up with a full on character profile. do you think when they envisioned buffy to be white they were basing it off of a race? why can they have the preconceived idea of the character being white and youre fine with that but when they mention the character being black youre picking it apart? it seems you have some backseat prejudice and would like tv to remain whitewashed.
That guy to the right far had a lot balls getting that political at 31:03 LMAO But he had a point though because people would have been upset at the fact that slayers were only women lol
Why was that blonde with the brown jacket so bothered by her husband or boyfriend placing his hand on her shoulder? Maybe its just me but she seemed to be doing the most until he removed his hand.
Definition of virtue signalling: the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue. These actors are not ‘virtue signalling’ if you know the actual definition. They are not expressing these thoughts to convey their moral superiority. They are being asked questions about their feelings regarding the show and they are answering them honestly. They’re not saying these things for the sake of their own popularity or image, they’re saying them to spread awareness and inspire change. If you have a problem with treating the environment with respect or casting a diverse group of artists on a show so much so that you would shame people for choosing to speak up for what matters. That is your problem. Deal with that. Also if you’re not a real buffy fan (who appreciates diversity and real issues being addressed) go elsewhere.
@@snaubdca7yebf any normal person that finds something boring just scrolls past😂 the fact you have commented tells everyone youre severely lacking a life/something better to do/friends.
@@snaubdca7yebf Yes, keep ignoring things that challenge your thoughts. Stay safe in your cute little bubble and don't let any other opinions in. It's just too uncomfortable for you, sweetie.
Jesus you could cut the tension on that stage with a knife. Guy on right was so full of himself it was painful. Same with chick in yellow and I think they both must hate each other. Spike seemed the most relaxed but clearly had some baggage about Buffy & Angel being treated so well in comparison. Man, never meet your heroes.
Honestly as someone who met James Marsters (Spike), he seemed to be the most tense on the stage BUT he was so much fun to interact with at Wizard Con lol
What does meeting your heroes have anything to do with the panel even if there was tension? You can still not like a celeb but still interact with them which is what I've done in the past at conventions lol
Most Buffy panels don't have Buffy in them. They all have interesting things to say. In many cases they have more interesting behind the scenes stories because they weren't the "star" being wrapped in cotton wool, so they had more exposure to things going on between takes.
@@darnellmajor9016She showed up to several. Oftentimes there are schedule conflicts. SMH isn't the only cast member missing here. Every event had different cast members present over the years.
Get used to it I would say. Everything is politics these days. And you really have to be a environmentalist otherwise you are the big bad. The new Buffy will all be about those politically correctness. It makes me sick.
@@TombolaHatt no ones saying everything is fine. they're taking issue with the opposite notion: everything's fucked & everything has to be about how wrong it is. let's take a step back from extremes because historically that is where things unravel.
Well Buffy was a rebuff to the Damsel-in-distress in horror, so as far as I'm concerned it can signal any damn virtue it wants so long as the show is great.
Emma’s shade at Dawn was hilarious! 😂😂😂
James defending Dawn's character was amazing
So glad I got to see the panel in person. Big Buffy fan! 💞
NOW I GET IT!! When James Marsters says that there were Star Trek and Space 1999 fans and they hated each other. Juliet Landau's father was Commander John Koenig on Space 1999!!
i love that amber's hair is the same way she wore it as tara!
So crazy this was named "Fandemic" before the pandemic happened just a year later.
Not a year later. Just a few months later.
Predictive programming?
I dont think social media would have been good to the show. BTVS is good because social media could not sway the storylines AT ALL.
Not so sure about that, even before social media they(tv shows in general) still cared a lot about public opinion, stuff like killing off unpopular characters was not uncommon. They still got fan mail, loads of fans wanted them to kill off Riley and Dawn, they did intentionally try to make Dawn less whiney because of it.
The show was also heavily censored by the network, probably far more than it would have been by social media. They originally wanted Cordelia to be black, but the network thought an interracial relationship between her and Xander would be too controversial. It also took a long time before they allowed to show Willow and Tara kiss, Josh had to fight extremely hard for that.
@@avon8794 they already had the zander/cordelia relationship written when they cast charisma?🧐
@@avon8794 if that's true about Cordelia that makes a lot of sense as the actress who was Kendall, the second season slayer, originally auditioned for Cordelia
@@IAmThatBit-- Kendra not Kendall lol
@@avon8794 what's funny is that Cordelia and Xander were BARELY a couple!!! lol
Juliet has that Dru energy. Not the crazy, but the dark.
Juliet still looks young and gorge! loooove Dru
If what I have heard in this video is true about shows helping with mental illness, I am thankful for that because it worked with me.🇨🇦
1:35
Emma: “What?! He’s how old?”
Amber: “I don’t know”
Amber to Clare: “How old is James?”
Clare: “57”
I love juliet and james😂😍
Emma is literally Anya 🤣
1:34 Emma was shocked to hear that James was alive before Star Wars came out 😂
2:10 Amber then got Clare involved and asked “How old is James?”
At the 18:34 mark, they talk a bout a sort of reboot but with a different slayer. Benson mentions that the new slayer will be a person of color. I thought "Buffy"was well defined, because wasn't the slayer (from Jamaica) of color, wasn't the principal's (DB Woodside) mother a slayer and of color, and a couple of the "Potentials" of color?
True! But it’s not the same as having a main character of color. When all the main characters are white and only the secondary characters are people of color it doesn’t really shine a light on the characters/cast of color, which is why having a main character that’s not white would be seen as more diverse than what Buffy originally did. It’s just more about who gets the spotlight. :)
@@sdab4856 The Buffy character was based on a sort of "Valley Girl" cheerleader type and the race was just based on that type. Now here they want to just base the character on primarily the race? It will be interesting to see how the new Bat Woman works out. Now if they base the new Slayer on say an WNBA player of color, that might have some potential.
@@dttruman how would making her black be basing her primarily on her race? She’d still have a back story and personality just like buffy did.
@@liamroscoe596 Well, that's the first thing they mentioned of the new slayer, she will be black. In the original, the slayer was defined as kind of a ditsy blonde cheerleader. That's the last thing you would expect a Vampire Slayer to be and that is what made the character interesting. Not coming up with a good back story first and just mentioning the race of the character, makes the back story look hardly important.
@@dttruman that does not answer the question about the character being based on her race at all. they arent writing the show theyre speculating. theyre talking about maybe having more diversity the second time around why would they sit there and come up with a full on character profile. do you think when they envisioned buffy to be white they were basing it off of a race? why can they have the preconceived idea of the character being white and youre fine with that but when they mention the character being black youre picking it apart? it seems you have some backseat prejudice and would like tv to remain whitewashed.
They’re all still so pretty
Emma is in character! lol 16:54
As her Vengeance Demon character?
Love Juliet! Bowie in the elevator 🥰 and missing the high five 🤣
I always had a thing for Amber, although Emma is quite appealing with those glasses on.
Did he point at you in the begining?
Yes. Though I was dressed as Captain Pike.
@@FandomSpotlite I figured as much but it's still pretty cool haha
That guy to the right far had a lot balls getting that political at 31:03 LMAO But he had a point though because people would have been upset at the fact that slayers were only women lol
Always keep fighting
6:30 agreed the fashion was rough. Especially poor Willow in the later seasons lol
Why the hell did she welcome them onto the stage like she was hosting the WWE?
Why was that blonde with the brown jacket so bothered by her husband or boyfriend placing his hand on her shoulder? Maybe its just me but she seemed to be doing the most until he removed his hand.
Definition of virtue signalling: the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
These actors are not ‘virtue signalling’ if you know the actual definition. They are not expressing these thoughts to convey their moral superiority. They are being asked questions about their feelings regarding the show and they are answering them honestly. They’re not saying these things for the sake of their own popularity or image, they’re saying them to spread awareness and inspire change. If you have a problem with treating the environment with respect or casting a diverse group of artists on a show so much so that you would shame people for choosing to speak up for what matters. That is your problem. Deal with that. Also if you’re not a real buffy fan (who appreciates diversity and real issues being addressed) go elsewhere.
snore
@@snaubdca7yebf any normal person that finds something boring just scrolls past😂 the fact you have commented tells everyone youre severely lacking a life/something better to do/friends.
@@snaubdca7yebf Yes, keep ignoring things that challenge your thoughts. Stay safe in your cute little bubble and don't let any other opinions in. It's just too uncomfortable for you, sweetie.
@@liamroscoe596 Given you typed twenty words to mine, you must be in a worse position. Poor thing.
where's sarah michelle
Shouldn't this be 2019, not 2016
Whoopsie. Lol
Jesus you could cut the tension on that stage with a knife. Guy on right was so full of himself it was painful. Same with chick in yellow and I think they both must hate each other. Spike seemed the most relaxed but clearly had some baggage about Buffy & Angel being treated so well in comparison.
Man, never meet your heroes.
Thought they were all hilarious and great
Honestly as someone who met James Marsters (Spike), he seemed to be the most tense on the stage BUT he was so much fun to interact with at Wizard Con lol
@@darnellmajor8895 That would have been awesome. He does seem pretty cool.
What does meeting your heroes have anything to do with the panel even if there was tension? You can still not like a celeb but still interact with them which is what I've done in the past at conventions lol
@@KrisBryant15 I didn't say I didn't like them. On the contrary.. but it just means that you don't want to shatter any preconceived notions.
That one lady in the audience gotta chill.
Drucilla is the real vampire!!!
No Buffy? It's like Smallville Panel with no Tom Welling..
Most Buffy panels don't have Buffy in them. They all have interesting things to say. In many cases they have more interesting behind the scenes stories because they weren't the "star" being wrapped in cotton wool, so they had more exposure to things going on between takes.
@@SummerBayJournal I get that but Im sure SMG has her own stories as well she would like share.
That's what I often forget is that SMG never shows up to events LOL
@@darnellmajor9016 True :)
@@darnellmajor9016She showed up to several. Oftentimes there are schedule conflicts. SMH isn't the only cast member missing here. Every event had different cast members present over the years.
Why tcamera too far...
Sadly, emma looks like she wants to be somewhere else :(
Glaring missing cast members...
Yuck. Virtue signalling and politics. This panel sucks. Barf
That's what the new buffy sounds like it's going to be about.
Get used to it I would say. Everything is politics these days. And you really have to be a environmentalist otherwise you are the big bad. The new Buffy will all be about those politically correctness. It makes me sick.
Yes, everything is fine, nothing to advocate for.
@@TombolaHatt no ones saying everything is fine. they're taking issue with the opposite notion: everything's fucked & everything has to be about how wrong it is. let's take a step back from extremes because historically that is where things unravel.
Well Buffy was a rebuff to the Damsel-in-distress in horror, so as far as I'm concerned it can signal any damn virtue it wants so long as the show is great.
Juliet is the sanest person here. :-D And funny, too.
She is awesome! Love her style.