Bad Gear - Roland SP-808ex Groove Sampler
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro tune
01:09 Overview
05:04 Hate
05:31 Jam 1
06:48 Jam 2
08:00 Finale
08:35 Verdict
Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland SP-808ex e-Mix Studio Groove Sampler. What went wrong with the 90s flagship of the legendary SP series loved by famous artists like J Dilla, Madlib or Four Tet? - เพลง
It's Friday, there's a new Bad Gear episode and it's my birthday, this can't get any better.
Happy Birthday!!!
hbd man!
happy birthday
It's always good to know what you don't want for your birthday, thanks bad gear! 🎉
HBD
That machine makes me have the strongest urge to build a space ship entirely out of clear plastic and 90s computers. I don't know why.
It might work somehow, be extremely annoying to fly and borderline indestructable;)
I'm working on one in my basement. It's either going to be a spaceship or skynet, I haven't decided which yet.
At first look that spaceship will seem ticking all the boxes…
That's the one thing that haunts me about the late 90's early 2000's.. that damn ugly ghostly clear plastics. Cuz you know... the future. lol
@@jbmcb
Make it into both & call it SpaceNet😉
My Friday with Roland is finally here!!!
Thank god it's Friday!!!
I always press the 'like' button before these videos even load and start, and it never disappoints!
Thank you!!!
This brings back memories… Used to have one, used it as a sketching pad and as a live sample player (long sounds inbetween songs with my band), dropped it, wrecked the zipdrive. Replaced it with a SP-303 which I should still have. Somewhere. Like a bunch of still new zipdiscs I still own and never threw away.
By the way, hope you don’t get tired of me tickling your box every week, but man, this show is getting better and better. The editing, the memes, the use of the actual fx-unit while talking about it… Brilliant stuff. The only way to start my weekend!
Thanks! So happy to hear that (sorry about the dropped SP though...)
I second this. you are doing a great job with this series and you deserve recognition for it, thank you for brightening up my fridays like a late 90s resonant digital filter
The infamous click of death from the Zip drive. Still causes nightmares.
@@generalgrafx Well, dropping the SP808 fixed the clicking issue quite dramatically... ;)
You should dust off the 303! It's still one of the best samplers to this date😏💜
I watched this on a dial up connection with a curtain hairstyle for authenticity.
A man of style, as usual!
@@AudioPilz I'll reply in 20 minutes, just waiting for your comment to load.
I've been using the ex for over 20 years as a live sampler. I record random modular sounds and samples onto the pads and use the D-Beam to control the fx and pitch. I also keep 4 backing tracks on the mixer side just in case my laptop crashes during a performance (It does happen and sometimes it's worth having a plan B). I love this box. It has NEVER failed for me and you don't hear the zip drive when you are going through a PA. :) Great Video!
Thanks! You are REALLY channeling your inner 90s groovebox zen;)
That's a clever way of using it. Probably more in the scope of what they envisioned it to do.
@@gauloiseguy true. It is pretty clear when you get one of these that Roland envisioned something great. This is a true "studio in a box thing", with some features that were really ahead of its time and probably still are. Too bad they didn't have a crystal ball to tell them that the ZIP drive would be a terrible idea. Other than that, it is so awesome.
I have 2 of em 🕺🌎💃
@@MrJoemonoWhat was available otherwise for storage and sample streaming??? No personal offence intended to this channel, if you made music in the 80’s and compared what was available for samplers and effects this was a huge step forward. There’s always entitled nitpicking. Get a loaded Kurzweil K2500 w/KDFX and update install the fastest compatible internal HD. I don’t make very much audio clip based music. Most people can’t tell the difference if music is made on a tablet or in a studio because most people listen to music on ear buds or 2 inch speakers
I think we don't thank you enough for the audio quality of your videos.
You are the only youtube channel I always watch with my studio monitors...
...and it's always a pleasure ! All your levels, recording and mixing are just perfect !
Thanks you so much for all the great content :D
So happy to hear that, thanks!❤️❤️❤️
I do the same and the audio is always so nice!
I actually started getting lost in the piece right before the verdict. Very nicely done!
So happy to hear that, thanks!
The highlight of the episode is, as always, your demo! You can make any device sound good while adding some fun context around it! :)
Thank you so much!
I loved this one so much I watched it twice! I continue to be amazed by your ability to make everything sound as great as it can, while accurately channeling the genres of the era. This was particularly nostalgic 🤣
Thank you so much!
5:30 great jam! 👍
6:48 greater jam!! 👍👍
8:00 album-worthy 👍👍👍
It‘s time that Roland get‘s you on the payroll. A very talented Synthfluencer and so many Roland appearances, they must be very glad in Hamamatsu. I was already rolling on the floor with the Dude entry (no carpet here unfortunately).
Thanks! Fun fact: Roland is not amused;)
Synfluencer. That's what Florian really is. I like that deserved title.
Bad Gear God! Those jams were sooo good! Man is there no piece of Bad Gear that this man can make sound bad? You sir are on another Epic Level! Enjoy your weekend!
Thank you so much!!!
Nice to see you back again, my fridaynight is complete.. the most etertaining music reviews/videos on the youtube. Love your performances. U make thoose retromachines sound really good to.
Thanx from TAO.
Thank you so much!!!
Love the tune title today!! You must have a lot of fun coming up with those:) Brilliant episode as always.
Thank you!!!
love how this is lowkey a show about cinema
You know too much😂
Clever, sneaking in the Rubber clip
I quite like the Roland/Boss Groovesamplers, but Zip drives deserve a special place in hell! The drives are more unreliable than an old FIAT in minus 30C!
Both, the Fiat and the SP808 are both ideal for hotboxing, though;)
Or just a Fiat.
Any temperature will do.
I've always wondered why Roland doesn't sell an upgrade version of the OS for PCs, Mac, Android, etc. And use the hardware for controller. Closed mind tunal vision. Would be great sales for both sp808 owners and software users. I guess they prefer to sell some new product although it doesn't compare.
Really? I've had plenty of Zipdrives both 100 MB and 250 MB ones and they have been more reliable than typical non-SSD harddisks from the same time period in my experience... but that could just be me
Hell yes , I'd save projects on zip and just leave my mpc2kXL on to be safe . Would run for about month then have a spaz-out 😂
These are getting better and better. Well done.
Thank you!!!
Thank you Audiopilz, this is the episode I was waiting for!
Cool! Thanks for watching!
Damn, this is arguably some actual "bad gear". Yet, you still manage to push it to the limits and get some very good results! Awesome music and memes! 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so much!!!
Yet another piece of my setup gets the Bad Gear treatment, but at least it definitely deserves it this time; mine just sits around as an FX unit 95% of the time. Haven't tried it myself, but I've seen a number of people have success swapping in SD drives. The firmware limitations are still there, but it gets rid of the annoying 'Drive too busy' message.
Also solid plug for Roger the Midi Maniac, I would've been lost without that guy.
Edit: I should probably watch to the end of the video before commenting lol
Roger is the man!!!
There’s another ide2sd project bringing support to sp808 but one more time 200$…
Woop woop, it's the sound of Audiopilz! As always, cheers for great content
Thank you!!!
Always look forward to your vids. Such an original idea. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!!!
That Puff-Puff-Pass Broken Beat Ballad is pretty melancholic, bro !! Nice work.
Thank you!!!
Another high-value review from Bad Gear. Good job!
Thank you!!!
I see how things go now, you just took me for my thrills. Go ahead and keep Bad gearing, cause i got the Pilz.
The only cure: cowbell
Oh man you did it, I have one right here which I used for 10 years. And by 'used' I mean both as a live sample trigger and to make full songs. I love it.
Kudos! That's quite some Zen you're having!
your best jam so far !! that lofi-funk!
Thank you!
That’s a bold statement. Most of his jams are his best jam.
Yeah it epitomizes bad gear. The SP808ex has awesome features mixed with awful inadequacies and 90s hang-ups. But it can be turned to better gear and in the right hands its limitations force a certain creative genius. Very cool jams!
Agreed! Thanks!
That was awesome 👌
It was cool to see one in the wild.
Excellent jams .
Thank you so much!!!
Your videos are just so good, You making great music as well man 👏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you!!!
I always thought of this machine as a 4 track first and a sampler second.
I understand what Roland wanted to build here and I think it is fantastic.
I would love to have a modern version of this. Basically a 4 track Ableton live in a box.
Agreed! Maybe a SP-08 Boutique?;)
@@AudioPilz
4 track recorder
4 4-voice sampler engines
4 track midi sequencer
4x4 matrix mixer
16x multi effect engines
16 track mixer
Toraiz sp16?
@@thelabby9998 I never paid attention to it. I assumed it was an MPC clone.
@@edjwise different beast more similar to Rolands than Akais…
Damn dude, your genre names are no joke, but funny as hell. Called the puff puff pass basement jam! Still wanting an album of Bad Gear Jams.
Thank you! Problem is: I would have to release several albums;) It will happen but until then full tracks are available on Patreon (shameless plug as usual;)
@@AudioPilz get it while you can.
Great episode, the movie references are killing me, I could almost hear Eastwood groaning when that clip popped up.. kudos man..
Thank you!!! Dirty Harry never disappoints!
Great vid. Thanks for reviewing 20+ pieces of gear I've owned over the years. haha. I bought one of these new when they first came out. I really had a lot of fun with this one despite the limitations. (I never had too many problems with using Zip disks and still keep some around for emergency booting of few Amigas I have.) There was a decent PC editor for making sound banks or extracting files to .wav that was very helpful. I especially liked the charm of the FX engine. I thought the COSM effects were pretty respectable for the time. I sold the SP808EX a couple years later and don't recall what crappy gear I bought in it's place but whatever I bought has probably has already been featured on your channel. :)
I love the RCA connection. Bad Gear quality from Roland :-) Nothing can stop our MAN AudioPilz from making great PUFF-PUFF tracks...
Hey Anthony, so happy to hear that from you!!!
You sampled the ZIP sound!
The world had to know😂
Actually really enjoy Jam 2 and would love ot hear a full song with that style. Great work, you even make deeply flawed gear sound great in the proper context.
Thank you. There's a longer jam on Patreon (shameless plug;)
Man your videos just keep getting better. My MCP 2000XL isn’t up on the chopping block soon is it, I saw you reference it at the end. By the way I did the CF card mod on it and it is super easy and makes the MPC so much better
Thank you!!!
As long as the gear operates to serve its function it’s not bad, tedious perhaps.
It’s the users lack of desire for the gear.
The best gear to start on is the gear with limitations.
The limitations force you to find another way.
It always has you reaching and learning, which helps keeps you moving forward in your creative venture.
Even if it means lusting after the latest gear.
When you get on the gear full of rich features, should be poised for destruction.
You don’t play the instrument, the instrument plays you.
You make good music on this channel with “Bad Gear.“
Btw what’s the name of the movie in the beginning?
There's some truth to it! "The Big Lebowski"
I used to have an 808 that I upgraded with the 808EX OS so I could get that synth and some extra effects. As one of the comments in the video noted - steep learning curve. I agree with that. I had a love/hate relationship with this device. Wanted to love it, but the learning curve was a bit much for my liking. Oh well. The zip drive stuff never got to me. My Mirage has the loudest floppy drive and I love that. Those drive sounds are just a bit of comforting nostalgia to me. :)
Agreed, floppies sound so much more musical
Great episode as usual and I am really glad that you covered this device. Next episode idea, the Roland MV-8000. Cheers 🍻
Thanks! Isn't the MV almost too nice😏
Many months later, and AudioPilz still hasn't _gemeldet_ that _Absturz!_
Months? YEARS!!!
Basically looks like a stand-alone Amiga MOD tracker with extra effects.
Kind of cool actually. :)
An Amiga MOD tracker has a proper sequencer;)
@@AudioPilz and less noisy drive, ram and value today. XD
Brilliant just brilliant. I loved this when it first came out it was hilarious
Thanks!
You put so much effort into this video (as ever) but it's the Ryan George 1/2 second appearance that absolutely cracked me up. It's the new 'tickles all the foxes' for me :)
Thanks! It was barely an inconvenience;)
@@AudioPilz Super easy...
Dig the look of this machine to be honest. Great episode! Love the broken beat ballad!
Thanks! 90s design at its "best";)
The SP-808ex is legendary in its own right. It might have been mostly just too expensive for the intended audience on launch, more so than any of its flaws being a real issue. In terms of FX, it's easily the best machine in the SP series, actually. Closely followed by the SP-606 IMHO. Yes, zip drive was a bad choice, but it was around the time where compact flash cards were still competing with older media and SD cards weren't a matured standard yet. There was no standard yet. And internal hard disks were both expensive and (too) slow, in this pre-SSD era. It's also a _very very_ good sampler all around. Modern samplers should take note when it comes to the sampling work flow tbh. I do agree the memory management might not be flawless, but this is true for all older samplers / grooveboxes. It's very rare for older samplers / grooveboxes to not feel very limited in terms of memory and it is the number one reason why software DAWs took off the way they did, with midi controllers, instead of hardware sequencer / samplers as the main studio centre piece. Speaking of which, modern artists that still use the SP-808ex will have no problem tracking their music into a DAW anyway.
The FX are indeed awesome!
The four stereo pair polyphony was also optimistic if one was trying to make breakcore or other frenetic music, the zip couldn't even manage. Although it does still have a non real-time mode where you can write and bounce pretty much anything. I ended up using mine mostly as just a hard disk recorder and effects unit.
Agreed, bouncing is very convenient on this unit
Simple Always the best Overview! Danke weiter so
Besten Dank!
Wow the last ballad is just amazing, i really need a full lenght of it, thank u.
Thanks! Just uploaded the full track to Patreon (shameless plug;)
I once found an Omega Zip drive in a street bin.
I’ve never found any other physical drive for any other media format in all my years going through municipal bins.
I understand everyone who would toss these...
Because any other drive will be take by someone before you arrive but never with a zip drive… lol
I loved mine so much, but the zip disk limitations/constant corruption made me chuck it. I wish Roland would release a full-featured recreation of this instead of the MC line. I miss the crazy shit you can do with the D-Beam and the effects...the D-Beam was a huge part of my performances for some time.
MC-05 Boutique maybe;)
Mv1?
As per usual, your jams are awesome and love the video, also I have one of those Roland A6 video canvases, not sure why.
Thanks! I never really understood the A6 tbh
And of course you managed to make legitimately sick sounds with it. 👏👏👏
Thank you!!!
I like the idea of 4 tracks. It didn’t hurt us in the 80’s - 90’s. If anything it forced us to think in more creative, critical & economical ways. I think this is exactly why I love the 4 track limit of Digitone. ❤️
Totally fine with a synth for me
Ok, so I've been loving this box for more than 2 decades and it's still is a main player in my rig. I have actually replaced the drive and can tell you that with the Zip drive and space capacity limitation gone this thing almost rivals any modern sampler. The sound is amazing and with a CF card in there you can use the track recorder side to... well... actually record tracks.
Cool! Which drive did you get?
Yeah please tell us more man! Thanks
@Analog Flava Hey man. What would you like to know? The specific drive that is an exact drop in replacement is the drive that was shipped inside the Akai MPC2000XL Blue model of MPCs. YES, the only CF drive that works in the Roland SP808 is indeed a drive that was used as the drive for that specific Akai MPC. Yes, that means that to get one you will need to shop around for it as a spare part for that particular MPC. Yes, it is an exact perfect drop in replacement for the 808's ZIP drive. Even the mounting holes line up. The bad news? The ones that came in tht model of MPC are the only ones that ever got made so to get one means that one has to be harvested from a broken MPC2000XL Blue at some point. People who pull these out of those MPCs usually know that it's a special in-demand part. Including shipping + taxes I paid just under $500 CAD for one. You will need to set an alert on ebay and wait. Once you see one for sale, if you hesitate, someone else will buy it within a day or two.
Wow this brings back memories of my blurry 20's. Thanks!
Instant flashback!
Loved this episode great stuff 🤟🏾
Thank you!!!
This thing truly deserves to be called a space ship. Holy cow.
Not sure if I would trust the oxygen suppy;)
Great tunes dude! You should release an album!
Thanks! Maybe release several albums - for every genre
But always mixing 4 or 5 Styles please, you àre so good muy friend
The best part of my Fridays.
Have a nice weekend!!!
please please please keep using the effects of the bad gear on the narration ; its hysterically fucking funny - love your work & godspeed
Thank you! Will remain a part of the show!
Would love to see more samplers!
Great idea, any suggestions?
@@AudioPilz Korg ES-1would be cool (really regret selling mine) or maybe the ESX.
@@AudioPilz Behringer DFX69 Tweakalizer!
@@user-zr1ij2nz6j Yea but the ES-1 isn't shit.. Now the Vari Os, Cheetah SX-16, Akai S01 were hahah
In the vein of Bad Gear - Roland MS-1, Bastille Microgranny, E-Mu ESI series, Roland S series rack samplers (with the screen & mouse!), Cheetah SX16, Yamaha A3000
They look so Cool
I would get one just to look at it!
Mmmmmh, late 90s design at its "best"
Another solid episode!
Thanks!
dude delivers every time.
You could also just make an artsy noise track by sending the sound of the zip drive through a chain of effects!
The internal FX!!! ZIPception!!!
If you play it backwards you can hear Skynet muttering under its breath.
Extra poliphony…
interesting....
Maybe get a “zippotron” section for the “floppotron” guy.
Prior to buying one of these box fresh and for a decent price in the early 2000s (came with the optional expansion board) I had previously owned an Emax sampler keyboard, I thought the SP-808ex was the cat's pyjamas. I had a lot of fun with it - the ease of sampling and onboard FX were a major step up from the Emax. Yep, it had its limitations, polyphony, constant zip backing track, clunky work flow, etc. but I have fond memories of it. Still, it is definitely worthy of bad gear though, not aged well :-). Bold design too, any new gear as bold in colour choice? Another great episode, thanks.
Thanks! 90s design revival will come sooner than we think
@@AudioPilz ooh I hope not - just sold my og bass station 🤦♀️
I really Love the Vibe's of this episodes music. I actually have to watch this again, I couldn't hear you through those killer tracks :D
Thank you so much!
Great video this week .thank you
Thank you!!!
back in 1999, one of my first EP (under the Deaf'n Dumb Crew alias) was called "Drive too busy" - You get the idea why :')
I feel you!!! Nice to have you around, Sébastien!!!
Love deaf and dumb crew tons! So cool to see you in this comment section
@audiopilz: Thank you so much for the shout-out!
This is my thankful reaction to you! @audiopilz th-cam.com/video/qxaes1O1fvA/w-d-xo.html
You made a great video of this special unit.
I predict that this unit will stay/become a classic ;-)
Thanks, man! Very appreciated!
Another awesome episode! You used it really well in those jams, the first one was especially cool. I can't get over that polyphony though, 4 voices? :P
Thank you!!! Yup, it's weird. (the first jam was 3 voices only btw;)
Nice episode mate. Glove from Berlin.
Thanks! Love Berlin!
Oh this. Turned out to be about as much use for productions as a purse full of minced frogs. In fact, had I bought a purse full of frog mince in the first life, I would have been much happier.
Funnily enough it was critically acclaimed back then;)
The original SP-808 was one of the first pieces of gear I bought and the first sampler I owned - bought mine from Chris Spicuzza - the electronic guy in the metal band Chimaira - It came with a broken zip card and I vividly remember taking it to an electronics geek to see if I could salvage the card because I knew there were some killer samples on it - but sadly he just reformatted the card and wiped it clean.
I ended up selling the SP-808 about a year later because it was too confusing for me to use.
Yeah, without internet it was half the fun to learn an instrument like this
Man... You just made me surgically younger with those Funker Vogt, Puff-Puff, in 90s I used to be only twenty years old type beats! If people want to know how hardware synths can feel like at best, they need to sub AudioPilz and tune in!
Music is our fountain of youth! So happy to hear that, thanks! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Hahaha so much of the gear I still use and the pieces I fiended for as a teen end up on this channel. The 808 is maybe one of my favorite pieces of gear ever and I didn't even get in to using the 4 track all that much. Being able to record your pad performances to other pads makes it so good for sketching quick and dirty beats
Four note polyphony on a sampler from 2000 is hilarious when you recall that the Emu SP1200 had eight 🙃
I couldn't believe it at first...
Technically, it is 8 voice polyphony - just locked to stereo channels
Also, around the same time, you could get an Ensoniq ASR-X for just a bit more, and it had 32 voices.
@@analogkid1261 Now I wonder if samples could be grabbed mono for crunch
4 stereo 8 mono is the max on paper. On reality probably less… xD
Bad Gear + Ryan George crossover:
“Alright so you have a new sampler product for me?”
“Yes sir I do”
Well, okay then
"Oh, ticking all the boxes is TIGHT!"
"At the first glance it was ticking all the boxes" - this is the infamous R.I.P. ingraved plate of all bad gear 🤣
Quite an obituary;)
Great vid once again. You are doing Gotts werk.
I thought for a moment you had sampled the zip disk click clack in one of your jams.
Thank you! God has nothing to do with it;)
You've covered bunch of ugly gear on this channel but for me this one takes the cake. Maybe the shape is ordinary but everything else from the colour scheme to the Roland logo under this semi translucent plastic tortures my eyeballs.
Yeah, it won't get any more late 90s than this!
wow its amazing what you can do with vfx and cgi these days it's almost like he actually has it! almost, because these never existed they were only ever a picture in a magazine, a fairy tale, less real than a unicorn.
Welcome to Fake Gear...
Jam 2 was really awesome, nice and gritty! You made that thing SING!
Thank you!!!
I had the non-EX version, upgraded with the EX OS and used it live with my band as well as to make tracks. There was also an alternative OS that someone (here from Switzerland) hacked together. AFAIR it made it possible to replace the Zip with a Jaz or even a HDD.. For me the concept of the all-in-one, the eierlegende Wollmilchsau, had a great appeal at the time since it was just before laptops that could handle audio multitracking became affordable. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
Always a pleasure! Thanks, didn't know about the alternative OS
I remember going into the Hi-Tech section at my music store and being amazed at this groovebox! I still prefer my MC-505 but she's sounding a little dated though you can still make some banging beats with it. My mate has a MC-909 and its built like a soviet tank! 🤘🏼🎹
The ZIP drive and lack of RAM is a real limitation
505 was surprisingly good. Made a lot of stuff on it in the 90s. I liked the drum & bass kits.
Soviet tanks haven't been doing too hot lately lmao
fnally got the mc505 last year - this thing is awesome and always wanted the sp808 as well...mc909, maybe.
This gear is very underrated I think.
So many things is possible with it.
The very moment when idea went far beyond the technology of its time.
Agreed but I am inclined to say that the whole concept is inherently flawed
@@AudioPilz The zip drive killed the machines longevity. Otherwise, for its time, it was light a CD quality 4-track tape machine with amazing built-in FX and a deep-architecture virtual synth, with MIDI. Bouncing down tracks at stereo CD quality was the shizzel. I still own mine SP808EX, use it as a teaching machine and over-glorified FX box.
Regular Roland edge cutting turning a good idea into a nightmare titled “It should be possible from specs but it keeps throwing errors, why? WHY?” Or almost that’s how I will titled it if I was a Demon torturing beatmakers in hell.
Ukelayyyyla..... you got me on my knees! [I don't know what I'm doing here, but if I don't comment each week I feel like I'm doing it wrong]
You're doing the right thing, thanks!
your review makes the SP808ex a goof choice for revival, if only for processing power for efx. TIGHT!
Thanks! Yeah, the FX are really nice!
do more on the other obscure SP series models! would love to see on one the SP-505
I had one of these, a friend of mine just threw it away without asking me;)
Even better, the SP-555???
I traded my 505 for an ehx hog pedal.
Sounded identical to my 303. The screen was a nice way to visualize effects and trim samples, also had a clipboard function, i liked the assignable effects and 4 track layout, but the pitch and chop settings weren't great. The simplicity of the 303 led to a faster more creative grooves.
@@kolomahler Different machines, both deserve a chapter.
I always kind of felt like Roland was trying to fill the 'sampling' void left wide open from the release of the MC-505 and it not having any kind of onboard sampler being a 'groove box' with thie SP808 (until the release of the MC-909, that is, and lets face it, Ensoniq / Emu / Akai were absolutely killing the sampling game at this point in time, the roland rack samplers were no slouch, however), the SP808 was always a really quirky device and never really seemed to function well (every single one of the Roland Groove Line had those beyond horrid steppy resonany filters on them, side note, if you automate / lfo the filters on any of these devices, the stepping almost vanishes entirely, not much fun though for actual knob turning, however...), I found swapping one of the CF / USB drives in solved a lot of the disk issues and performance issues of the device, but still ultimately, I feel like Roland really were just grasping at straws with the SP808 and trying to put one more product out and squeeze the last bit of juice they could from the 90's orange as it were, I still own an SP808ex and an MC-505/JX-305, but the SP808 anymore collects more dust than it ever sees usage, I have a plethora of old gear like this for nostalgia aka I spent money on stupid shit that I thought was great that wasn't that I couldn't afford when I was in highschool because these units were insanely overpriced for the value and because I was easily distracted by weird noises, bright colors and flashing lights (Cough*LSD*Cough).
Great video man, as always, respect.
Thanks! Teenagers are so easily distracted;)
Roland never quite got what users wanted in sampling. They had a lot of units since their dedicated samplers went out of production that were either overcomplicated or completely underpowered. For a while, it seemed like they just up and forgot how properly make a sampler. When they released the Fantom Series and the V-Synths, it got better...but they were still a complete PITA to deal with compared to Akai or EMU samplers.
That said, I'd still probably give my right arm to have a DJ-70 in my studio if just for the grungy sound and the whacked out 'scratch dial' (which was like a casio rap-man on steroids). They are nearly impossible to find, though.
Compared to E-MU ESI units, S-Series Roland Samplers were easy to operate.
@@larsbergen6126 Agreed. The S760 had a mouse and monitor option, which made finding the zero crossings a breeze if you were looping breakbeats or pads, and were allergic to clicks and tempo glitches.
wow wow, that small finale jam/production was really good.
Thank you so much!
Nice. I worked in a music store when the original SP-808 came out and we all used to laugh at it. You should do the Zoom Sampletrak ST224 someday, as that was a '90s classic! I had the joy of demoing MC-303s, QY700s, and CS1Xs in the '90s. I don't miss any of those at all.
Thanks! The SampleTraks are surprisingly un-hated on the web. I've yet to find one that can fill the bulletin board of detest
Cool video! Didn't know this piece of gear even existed. ^^
Why is it, that such much Roland gear has great ideas, but then also has some quirk or flaw, that disqulifies it completely for most musicians?!
I don't hear that much fuzz about other manufacturers. lol.
Thanks! Maybe Roland knows exactly what they can get away with;)
Classic LOLand!
The true question is “Why Roland keeps trying it and doesn’t go bankrupt?” That kind of Magic they should put in their r&d teams…
Cool, I've always wondered about this sampler. Sounds like it would make a nice FX box. So hard to find an affordable vocoder, something I'd really like.
The vocoder is cool but you need an external carrier signal for that.
Get a tc helicon peform ve. The best of variphrase/vc2 card inside a little and cheap unit.
Great vid!
Thanks!