@@illuminatedzach4206 no he just has a bad habit of watching himself in the screen while he talks and that makes him raise his eyebrows, kinda weird but he's used to it
Chat: Gambling is bad cause cause I might get addicted When talking about underaged women Also chat: That isn't a bad thing if its considered legal in a state even though its borderline pedophilia
@@crowmaster9652 Yeah like they say it’s only a 2 year difference. Then why didn’t he wait for her to turn 18 or why couldn’t he just choose people that are of age??
Asmon is used to a culture that are pushing the legal limits to suit their addiction. Chat is full of hypocrites they will accept their cultural narrative of dating a really young female as considered legal by state yet they will mob on anyone that promotes gambling to a young audience. Hypocrite andys
Xqc has mixed up the story a bit… he said “when Carson got confronted by his friends” but when he dated the 17 year old girl he was still growing on TH-cam he didn’t have much followers so the power dynamic theory is just bullshit
People these days are so obsessed with absolutes... it's always either "THIS GUY IS A GROOMER PREDATOR" or "HE DID NOTHING WRONG" It's like... can we not admit that Carson's actions were offputting and kinda exploitative, but still be objective and not call him a "child predator" and shit?
Exactly, what Carson did could be seen as exploitive but he isn’t a child predator. He is just a kid that found someone who found him attractive and let his second brain lead him
But honestly what the girl said was a bit weird tho, she said that she messaged Carson “date me” but said it was a joke. Why did she then date him for a long period if she thought it was wrong. IMO I think they had a rough breakup and she used that against him…. This is just my observation I might be wrong so don’t take my word.
@@havocmg using fans for your own sexual satisfaction isn't morally wrong...okay dude. if he actually dated the person then sure but it was a purely sexual thing if i recall correctly and i'm pretty sure he had multiple. this is exploitation. he did do something wrong and never apologized for it.
XQC talking like Carson had a fucking Harem and could just choose whoever he wanted, such an odd take. XQC's take would make PewDiePie one of the biggest TH-camr groomers dude. 10k youtube subs means you're in a position of power LULW
You make it seem like every person in the world knows a famous person.. it’s a straw man argument to say “oh i guess famous people can’t date anyone” when not everyone in the world knows who fucking callmecarson is or any youtuber for that matter Overall his point is: Dating a fan can cause the fan to do things against their best judgment soley because it’s their idol (like sending nudes to someone they’ve never personally met). While carson probably doesn’t have any endless line of hoes, he definitely could’ve chosen someone who’s on the right side of the age of majority. Even if it’s legal in his state, most people, especially celebrities, do the 18yo threshold since it’s the most simple, common and socially acceptable age cutoff.
Well yeah he totally could choose someone in his age but he still kept flirting with an underage girl, dk if u people are dense or brainded but thats just weird
it is tbh, hes fully correct in asking why did carson, an adult, choose the person that he knew was a minor out of all of the choices possible. Whether he could think about it from a career ruining standpoint or as a moral standpoint, why would he choose one of the people that is a minor out of the dozens of adults
@@hamburgler1811 Defense for Young Adults and Minors in a Relationship The law provides a defense to the above felony charges for consensual sexting between a young adult and minor. The "young adult relationship" defense applies only if all the following are true. The offense was committed by a person younger than 22. The fact that you're going to a twitch streamer that speaks broken english for your information means you don't know what you're talking about. xqc and twitter don't tell you what is right or wrong the law does.
Can we not let this shit go? It happened. Let Carson live his life ffs. This literally happened BEFORE the pandemic and lockdown, and people are still on this shit like butter on toast. Like Asmon said, if every 19 year old that did this were to get in trouble, that's a lot of people JUST in the U.S.
I think the main problem i have with people arguing about this topic is that they keep bringing age into it, when it wasn't the actual problem. Also the fact that people keep argue about it as if though these streamers are their friends or some shit, I wish people weren't as invested in streamer drama and just focus on the content they produce. People having these parasocial relationships is real weird.
@UCx6nc9HGAUOp3T3RjK_0Zdw 19 and 17 isnt a problem, just because one person in the relationship is famous isnt a problem, by that logic only famous people can date famous people, very dumbfuck take
the whole argument about "power dynamics" is ridiculous. Carson is a somewhat famous content creator, not a superstar or her boss or anything. the "power" he has over her doesn't mean shit. he might have had a million options it doesn't matter that he chose the one that was a year and a half younger than him. Jesus.
@@iCrimzon I mean this is the world now so if you don’t use your brain then you’ll just get fucked and isn’t this the second time he’s done this like does he not learn from his mistakes or something. 😑
He is just so bored these days. Rambles on for 15 minutes about cancer drama nobody cares about. “Just forget it dude whatever dude I’m done talking about this” (pause for 10 seconds) “wait do you guys not get this, really? I’ll explain-“
??? His take is completely rational, there is choice in love. Yeah, it happens to normal people who actually socially see eachother either in school or work, but Carson was in a completely different situation. Failing to see the distinction is more cringe then Chris Chan
@@slashs1318 how is Carson in the wrong. He got with a girl. how broke does he have to be before it’s ok to date her and at what point is his following to large?
@@travisanderson9094 when it comes to Carson, I don't know if he is wrong or right. I don't know if he groomed or not. No one but Carson will ever know. What we do know, however, is that Carson didn't meet this girl because of normal dialty circumstances that the average Joe goes through. He met her because if his position online. He made the decision (and I mean thousands of micro decisions) to be with her over sooo many other girls. Mr cow and I both believe that to be, kinda fuckin weird. And if that doesn't make sense to you, idk what will. Is he wrong? Idk. Did he make bad decisions? Absolutely. Is he kind of a creep? I wouldn't support him.
I agree, many people think that once you reach 18 you’re automatically a full fledged adult. it’s only by law you are considered an adult but in reality, a 17 year or a 19 year old aren’t that much different having same level of maturity as a adolescent. Yes carson was very scheming but grooming? That’s just bullsht and a stretch to say
Considering that he talked to her before he really blew up shows that he didn’t really do anything too bad, she wasn’t even a groupie, so it’s not like he was in a power position really. I don’t get these out of context takes, 2 year difference leave it at that, there’s nothing more to it.
xqc is right, he is correct in asking why did carson, an adult, choose the person that he knew was a minor out of all of the choices possible. Whether he could think about it from a career ruining standpoint or as a moral standpoint, why would he choose one of the people that is a minor out of the dozens of adults
There can be a dynamic from 5k subs, also he didn’t stop doing it after that he did it up to over a million subs, and he admitted to having pictures and that is legally CP up to 17.
I'll say this again, Carson was a 19 year old kid with a very small TH-cam following at the time this "grooming" occurred, so you CANNOT use the "power abuse" argument because it does not apply. Now Felix is trying to create a comparison in his head by applying the situation to himself, and as a 25 year old MAN who has been one of the most popular streamers on Twitch for quite a long time now, he KNOWS what he should and shouldn't do, but Felix's current circumstances and Carson's previous circumstances are worlds apart, so it's not a fair comparison.
You downplay the fact that he had 10,000 subscribers back then by just saying "small following". Felix just struggles to articulate things when he has a point. It's that following on top of the age difference along with the abundance of choices Felix was talking about. I'm not saying he's a pedo or whatever but there's definitely wrongdoing.
"Power dynamic" between a 20k sub youtuber and a fan, because if she rejects him he will use his giagantic influence to harm her in some way! except that makes no sense and there is actually 0 examples of him "abusing his power" in the dms.
ya idk y people are aganist fans and content creators in relationships, like its not always a power dynamic and its always assumed that there is a power dynamic whenever they date a fan when heres been tons of good relationships between fans and creators
wasn;t the whole ordeal in 2019? pretty sure he was big. also it's not that he will hurt her but fans would feel more inclined to say yes. this is just my take so disagree if you want
Dude at what point does it go from a power dynamic to just having game. Like it’s weird to have sex with a guy and for some reason it’s wrong because he’s famous??? How poor does he have to be before it becomes morally acceptable to date people.
saying he had 20k subs at the time like that somehow disproves the power dynamic. she looked up to him, and he asked when she was turning 18, and LITERALLY ADMITTED he shouldn’t be talking to her in their messages together.
he’s absolutely NOT a predator. and shouldn’t be exiled into that category. but it’s weird as fuck especially when his friends distanced themselves from him and he kept doing the weird shit.
@@Frogtea he didn't use his power dynamic to gain anything from the dms we see of them. she was the one who initiated it & it was a normal convo of a 19 yr old with a 17yr old. he didn't power abuse even if he had a power dynamic.
@@roxas4587 "even if he had" no, he DOES have. 20k or however many subs he had at the time is power, just in a different sense than you may realize. and it's not like it's some superpower he harnesses. he abused it when he responded to her message and chose to pursue her after learning her age, and after even admitting in their discord messages he shouldn't.
@@havocmg that's a completely different scenario considering we're talking about the relationship between a content creator and someone who is LITERALLY underage?? how is that so hard to comprehend?
but then i remember im taking time out of my day to argue with kids in a youtube comment section who are already underage and don't realize the seriousness.
Bruh Are people seriously just gonna ignore everything else schaltt and Conor said about Carson on how he admitted he was texting more than 1 underage girl and didn't care? Carson also admitted it was something he shouldn't be doing but still kept on doing it
People are ignoring it because there is no evidence or context to go off of. Please enlighten me where Carson himself admits to the other girls existing, and it not being hearsay.
This is what I've been trying find in conversations but a lot of people just push that aside and only talk about the 17 and 19, when there is a possibility that he has been doing it with younger girls.
@@FroggerC legal age is pretty stupid for this case considering if he’d have been in a different country or even a different state, no one would bat an eye
@@FroggerC at the time Carson wasn't famous, that's the thing, he was tiny at the time and wasn't this big content creator using his influence to get his own way. And of course there is nothing wrong with a 19 and 17 year old being together. I usually agree with xqcs takes, but these takes are dumb
They make millions, they have lawyers, they have agents, they make mainstream news, they have hundreds of companies offering them money and sponsorships, and you don't think they have any authority or power? yikes
Virgin beta chatters - "herrr 17 isn't DAT baad, my bff did it" Chad Sigma XQC - "its ultimately up to YOU to decide who YOU love, its weird that Carson CHOSE to involve himself with someone substantially younger. Having more then 1 brain cell, you can tell this is a different situation then the classic teens falling in love. Carson could have made better decisions, EZ clap"
@@slashs1318 Thad Zingadingaonaire grindset - "nothing bad actually happened, 17 and 19 is both still school, having 30k subs doesn't give you wizard powers on the internet, you can't choose who you are attracted too"
And a lot of the time he is correct. The people in chat are the same age of people who would be susceptible to grooming and manipulation, so the fact that they dont fully understand it or recognize it doesnt really surprise me. There's a reason why victims of grooming/manipulation often dont realize it until adulthood.
@@perperperpen Yep I agree, I see a lot of really annoying people in his chat that try to pretend they’re smart but are actually the most brain dead degenerates on the planet
The power dynamic argument is just bullshit because there is no evidence of carson abusing it. Carson maybe did some shady shit that led to his friend group blowing up but minecraft twitter accusing him of being a pedo groomer abuse andy based on the statements of the 17 year old at the time girl is just outrageous.
I mean xqc is right and chat and their cultural narrative is very disgusting, like stop trying to normalize pedophilia. especially if they are borderline underaged.
@@crowmaster9652 your the type of people who cant reasonably conversate in good faith and the people i hate talking to the most cause you make the overall conversation unreasonably harder to talk about
@@aidensabyss your type of people has fabricated superiority concepts that basically influenced the birth of h1tler. You will attack gamblers but not ped0philes? Hypocrites! unreasonably harder to talk about? Is that supposed to be a defense for ped0philes?!
Man, xQc was having a really tough time with this one. I think Asmon said what needed to be said. Don't know why but xqc sounds like he's taking a "what people want to hear" stance instead of a "what they need to hear" one which is weird coming from a certified sigma lord like him. With all due respect, hes just giving the Twitter pleaser take. He says that 17 + 19 =normal when you're not famous, but =bad when you're famous and can use your fame for sex. Like... all rappers, celebrities, rich people, athletes, politicians, musicians... they all use their fame for sex. And xqc listens, likes and says good things about some of these celebrities that do this. So why is it only a problem if it's a twitch streamer/ youtuber? Are people that use twitch only able to see what happens inside the twitch related sphere? You either criticize all parties that do this exact thing, or you just seem like you're being selective about who you criticize based on who you like. I really like X, if he reads this and claim I'm a hate watcher pretending to be a juicer, then fuck me dude I guess. Just giving my hot take. If who reads this disagrees, I dont mind
@@artyomchyornyj9264 I edited my comment because I realized some people may think that's what I meant. Read it again for clarification. If you dont want to read again I'll sum it up: I dont care about saying that's it's good or bad. Simply that if x chooses to criticize the behavior from Carson, he should also criticize all the people who do this openly and proudly, that he knows they do it, and not only talk about this subject when its Carson. His top 10 favourite rappers all do this thing. That's kind of what I'm saying.
He isn’t a news network, sure he probably has thoughts on how other celebrities/influencers from other platforms do this but he is just commenting on the matter at hand with thoughts straight from the top of his head I am sure if he got to really think into the issue he would have a better overall take… but his stream is only entertainment after all.
@@JasperDD I absolutely agree. I'm not here asking him to make a special part of his stream dedicated to formulating good takes. I wouldn't watch it. I'm just asking for a bit of impartiality if he does end up giving his takes on stream and to be able to have judgement of when his takes are contradictory with his overall personality.
@@gnerus1972 exactly. Imagine how hard it'd be for someone like Drake to go out in public without being instantly recognized by hundreds of people and trying to sit in a bar or something and talk to a girl without slipping up somehow about famous he is. He would have to make up a whole backstory about his life, and would that be considered morally more correct than dating someone that knows how famous you are and is a fan of your content? Imagine him trying to find girls on Tinder or some shit. Wouldn't work. So is a person of public renown supposed to just avoid dating in general and just hope that one day they meet someone who doesn't know how famous they are? Because that's also not likely to happen at all. This whole thing is so fucking stupid
its completely normal for a 19 year old to keep going for girls that are 17. Its a fact that teenage girls are more attracted to boys who are older than them. I have a friend who is a girl who dated 5 guys that where 3+ year older than him and she was only 16. Its completely normal, i don't see what point xqc is trying to make. The only people who are mad about this are twitter warriors who don't have real social experiences.
I wouldn’t say 16 year olds and 19 year old/20 year old relationships are normal, mentally they are in two different head spaces (for the vast majority of people). One is going into college and starting a completely different chapter in their life, the other is still regarded as a child bound by restrictions. But generally, I personally have the mindset that if they are both in high school, it’s not that big of a deal. So a 17 year old and a 19 year old isn’t weird (to me personally) and this is coming from the perspective of an 18 year old girl. Admittedly, girls are more likely to go for older guys as opposed to younger guys. Another example is an 18 year old dating someone in their mid 30s. There is nothing wrong with that legally, however most would agree that there is something unsettling about someone who is fresh out of high school being with someone a decade their senior. And again it’s because they have completely different mindsets and headspaces. The 18 year old would be very susceptible to being exploited, despite legally being an adult. I’m greatly aware that the above situation has nothing to do with Carson, but I mentioned it to reiterate the fact that it’s when they have little to no shared life experiences and are in completely different points in there life where it becomes exploitive. The same age difference between a 30 year old and 40 year old would be perfectly fine, because there is little to no difference mentally between the two. In this case I’m 50/50 on whether I agree with XQC or disagree. I agree that there are plenty of girls in the sea and SPECIFICALLY targeting 17 year olds or women younger than you is weird. That being said idk if this is the case with Carson, apparently he knew the girl prior to fame so she wasn’t pressured. However I disagree that as soon as you find out they are 17 and you are 19 that you abort, you can simply refrain from sexual shit for less than a year. And as I said a 2 year gap like that when they are both in high school isn’t weird.
literally 3 year difference is everyone in the same grade. Was Felix homeschool or smth? When I was at grade 12 I was in my late 15s while boys in my class were already 18..
@@juodagalvesniegena714 nah he wasn’t homeschooled but he went to school in France, so perhaps it’s a cultural thing. I know here in the uk, it would generally be seen as weird for a 16 year old to date a 19 year old, there are memes about it. So I guess I see where felix is coming from, but in this instance, 17 year old and a 19 year old is fine, especially since they had met prior to him becoming famous
Maybe I'm in the wrong but I feel the issue X is focusing on is the wrong one. It's not if he did something illegal or had other choices it's the idea that a 19 year old dating a 17 is some terrible bad idea. I think a 2 year age gap is perfectly fine.
Did we forget about partner manager Hassan? Now that's a real predator, not the socially awkward kid who got giddy because girls started to actually talk to him for the first time in his life. It's frustrating to see that many actual predators are just forgotten a week after they've been exposed but Carson is still staying in people's heads for something so mundane and quite common in America.
Well it was the same situation but just in different terms and twitch also actively hid the situation versus Carsons friends putting on the forefront, however it's kind of dumb to use the giddy kid argument when he's a legal adult who has been on the internet since his early teens, not to mention according to multiple friends he did it with multiple different girls repeatedly and lied to his friends about the situation he was in repeatedly, what Hasan did was give female creators affiliate or even partner for nude pictures of themselves whilst actively lying to his employers, both are weird fucks regardless, and your whataboutism doesn't help anything
@@cosmoknot1679 yeah, the same friends that acted like they never heard of the situation, said that they "called the fbi", went to KEEMSTAR out of all people after shit hit the fan and the same ones that bailed immediately when their friend did something stupid
@@gnerus1972 also that same friend slimecicle did do something stupid just like Carson, cscoop, traves, and hugbox did but that doesn't make what Carson did any less stupid
I’m a senior in high school and I’m very young for my grade but there are guys that are 19 dating 17 year olds IN THE SAME GRADE. A senior dating a freshman, not cool man, but 2 seniors, cmon man who cares really. They’re the same age and experience practically so stfu about this grooming stuff.
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In what world do we live in when a 19 yr old dating a 17 yr old is wrong. My parents were ten years apart when they were married. This is completely blown out of proportion.
You shouldn't agree with carson because that would warrant you as pushing for legalizing pedophilia. Kind of pathetic to force your cultural narrative when its just weird to make pedophilia a norm.
i feel like xqc usually tells us not to put streamers on a podium, yet hes saying carson should be treated differently because hes a streamer and not a "normie"
The problem with X's power dynamic argument is that once someone is successful/rich enough, their dating pool will be practically non-existent. Hell, Jeff Bezos would only be allowed to bang Elon Musk. For the power dynamic to be applicable for a situation is if the 2 people that are in a relationship also work together/in the same industry. Every case is unique, but my statement would be applied generally.
ur right but if ur both 23 and theres a power dynamic ur more responcible and wont be as easily manipulated as a kid. the fact carson had other options is what makes it bad
@@rrchy. so what he had other options, unless you want to claim that a 17-19 relationship is inherently wrong, it’s irrelevant. If it’s ok it doesn’t matter a 20 year old was interested
i dont think what carson did was worthy of ruining his career but xqc is right in asking why would he choose the person that he knows is a minor and he knows is wrong to have relations with. again i think this action ruining his whole career is way to much but xqc is right.
@@-green-405 it isn't, you can love sum1 who's 15 but choose not to be with them bc of their age also. He just chose to continue being with her bc she was only 1 year away from being 18 and they're only two years apart
I’m convinced the person who made the statement “don’t judge a book by its cover” must’ve been a weirdo. I take one look at Carson and not one part of me is shocked at what he did. Imagine a second year university student dating a sixth form student.
IMO any relationship that fits within the / 2 + 7 rule is fine. So 19 / 2 + 7 = 16.5, 17yo is fine for a 19yo. 21 however (21 / 2 + 7 = 17.5) means it would be creepy
Debatable, because 20 / 2 + 7 = 17 and if I was a 20 year old I’m not dating a 17 year old that’s slightly dodgy imo but I can sort of see how it’s accurate with certain ages.
Imagine having to break up with your girlfriend who is a year younger than you because she turns 18 2 months after you turn 19 and you have 200 more facebook friends lmfao twitters braindamage has long surpassed comedy levels
To this day, I still think that Carson got robbed of his entire career. Wouldn't surprise me if he fell into depression again. Want to know what child grooming was? The shit that EDP did, but everything that Carson talked about with people on Discord was always consensual. Actual fucking joke that people called him a pedo, she could have been 10 seconds away from turning 18 and her then taken nudes would still be called CP
isnt it ironic that people claim „power difference“ yet HE is the one having his existence and reputation destroyed by HER? If he is so much more powerful, why didnt he prevent it?
I don’t think Carson did anything wrong besides the way he came back. It’s just super weird having your return be on someone else’s stream, especially when you know Miz just used Carson as mega-clickbait. I think Carson should have just made a video saying that he doesn’t think what he did was wrong, and I would be on his side. But no matter what, I hope Carson got the help that he supposedly needed.
And why does that matter? If he wants to have a relationship with his consenting fans who are within the legal age to make that choice, I dont see why thats a problem. You say "young girls" but fail to mention that carson is a young guy. By your logic A LOT of celebrities, musicians, and internet famous people should be cancelled.
I’m confused by the power dynamic thing. Yeah he was approached by girls cuz he’s famous but I didn’t see anything that implied he was actively using his status to keep them interested. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think he did much wrong on a moral standpoint
I mean there are fence pushers in this blasted society especially with carsons racial culture where they push the legal age requirement for women so guys can manipulate them when they are young. Its funny cause chat would defend normalizing pedophilia but would mob on anyone promoting gambling, sick and pathetic.
Watching xQc misunderstand what people say hurts soooooo much. Dude legit takes one word from any sentence and just fucking runs with it even if the context has NOTHING to do with the originally topic. The definition of ADHD and following the dopamine
pretty sure ive seen somewhere that carson had some sort of mental health issues for a long time, which likely caused him to stick with that underage girl. people acting like he was mentally sane and did that are pretty much assuming things.
bro asmons eyebrows go up and down more than crypto
Lmaoooo
Actual good comment
No disrespect but does asmon have tourette’s like H3?
@@illuminatedzach4206 No idea
@@illuminatedzach4206 no he just has a bad habit of watching himself in the screen while he talks and that makes him raise his eyebrows, kinda weird but he's used to it
mr cows brain is literally incapable of comprehending the amount of fail presented to him in these videos
@oh no ???????????????????????????????????
"self promo link that nobody will care about"
Chat: Gambling is bad cause cause I might get addicted
When talking about underaged women
Also chat: That isn't a bad thing if its considered legal in a state even though its borderline pedophilia
That doesn’t matter because he’s the 5Head king disguised as a Pepega Warlord
@@crowmaster9652
Yeah like they say it’s only a 2 year difference. Then why didn’t he wait for her to turn 18 or why couldn’t he just choose people that are of age??
Chat when Asmon talks about Carson: Kalm
Chat when XQC talks about Carson: Agony
@oh no lmao
"self promo link that nobody will care about"
@@hieroglyphian Wdym
Asmon is used to a culture that are pushing the legal limits to suit their addiction.
Chat is full of hypocrites they will accept their cultural narrative of dating a really young female as considered legal by state yet they will mob on anyone that promotes gambling to a young audience.
Hypocrite andys
@Sharpski Stop promoting ped0s while you're out their bud
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I like how xQc has a daily routine that he follows, he just reacts to memes, JCS, LivestreamFails and some more random shit. Love it.
If it ain't broken..
And play apex legends and jump king
@@justfip Variety Pagman
@@micco35 don't fix it i guess
Felix:are you guys like 12-14 y/o?
Chat: yes.
thought it was more like 10-12
Thought it was More like 8-10
Honestly I think average is 15-16 maybe
Definitely not double digits
Lol people joke about that but its actually real
Okay yeah I like xqc but that Carson take was the least sigma take I’ve ever seen
@oh no xqcABDUL
my streamer is becoming beta sadge....
I mean when his freinds called him out for it u know its a bit weird tbh.
Xqc has mixed up the story a bit… he said “when Carson got confronted by his friends” but when he dated the 17 year old girl he was still growing on TH-cam he didn’t have much followers so the power dynamic theory is just bullshit
@@astilcodex9318 true
People these days are so obsessed with absolutes... it's always either "THIS GUY IS A GROOMER PREDATOR" or "HE DID NOTHING WRONG"
It's like... can we not admit that Carson's actions were offputting and kinda exploitative, but still be objective and not call him a "child predator" and shit?
agreed what he did was wrong in a way but he's not a child predator
Exactly, what Carson did could be seen as exploitive but he isn’t a child predator. He is just a kid that found someone who found him attractive and let his second brain lead him
But honestly what the girl said was a bit weird tho, she said that she messaged Carson “date me” but said it was a joke. Why did she then date him for a long period if she thought it was wrong. IMO I think they had a rough breakup and she used that against him…. This is just my observation I might be wrong so don’t take my word.
@@havocmg hes exploitative in the way that he was soliticiting fans who'm he obvioulsy has higher influence over for sexual content
@@havocmg using fans for your own sexual satisfaction isn't morally wrong...okay dude. if he actually dated the person then sure but it was a purely sexual thing if i recall correctly and i'm pretty sure he had multiple. this is exploitation. he did do something wrong and never apologized for it.
XQC talking like Carson had a fucking Harem and could just choose whoever he wanted, such an odd take.
XQC's take would make PewDiePie one of the biggest TH-camr groomers dude.
10k youtube subs means you're in a position of power LULW
ya theres a lot wrong with saying such a small following leads to grooming
@oh no stop posting terrorist music
its one of the few times i agreed with xqc lol
You make it seem like every person in the world knows a famous person..
it’s a straw man argument to say “oh i guess famous people can’t date anyone” when not everyone in the world knows who fucking callmecarson is or any youtuber for that matter
Overall his point is: Dating a fan can cause the fan to do things against their best judgment soley because it’s their idol (like sending nudes to someone they’ve never personally met).
While carson probably doesn’t have any endless line of hoes, he definitely could’ve chosen someone who’s on the right side of the age of majority. Even if it’s legal in his state, most people, especially celebrities, do the 18yo threshold since it’s the most simple, common and socially acceptable age cutoff.
Well yeah he totally could choose someone in his age but he still kept flirting with an underage girl, dk if u people are dense or brainded but thats just weird
i dont think felix understands 50% of the words he says, he just heard them from other streamers
His brain knows what it wants to say but can't find the words to convey what he thinks accurately.
@@sorcererofsalt5786 He knew exactly what he said, it was just a shit take
@@RM-56 For real
@@RM-56 what part about it was a shit take
@@iirealgaming2958 That's what I'm wondering as well. You may not agree with it, but it was reasonable.
Sorry Mr. Cow, but that was not a BAY ZED take.
you really defending a weirdo? lol
it is tbh, hes fully correct in asking why did carson, an adult, choose the person that he knew was a minor out of all of the choices possible. Whether he could think about it from a career ruining standpoint or as a moral standpoint, why would he choose one of the people that is a minor out of the dozens of adults
@@mfspic how is he a weirdo? bro its 2 years plus its legal. how old are you?
@@hamburgler1811 because he liked her thats how love works lol you cant just like who you want
@@hamburgler1811 Defense for Young Adults and Minors in a Relationship
The law provides a defense to the above felony charges for consensual sexting between a young adult and minor. The "young adult relationship" defense applies only if all the following are true. The offense was committed by a person younger than 22. The fact that you're going to a twitch streamer that speaks broken english for your information means you don't know what you're talking about. xqc and twitter don't tell you what is right or wrong the law does.
Can we not let this shit go? It happened. Let Carson live his life ffs. This literally happened BEFORE the pandemic and lockdown, and people are still on this shit like butter on toast. Like Asmon said, if every 19 year old that did this were to get in trouble, that's a lot of people JUST in the U.S.
I think the main problem i have with people arguing about this topic is that they keep bringing age into it, when it wasn't the actual problem. Also the fact that people keep argue about it as if though these streamers are their friends or some shit, I wish people weren't as invested in streamer drama and just focus on the content they produce. People having these parasocial relationships is real weird.
@UCx6nc9HGAUOp3T3RjK_0Zdw 19 and 17 isnt a problem, just because one person in the relationship is famous isnt a problem, by that logic only famous people can date famous people, very dumbfuck take
xqc not being drama andy noidontthinkso ☝️
the whole argument about "power dynamics" is ridiculous. Carson is a somewhat famous content creator, not a superstar or her boss or anything. the "power" he has over her doesn't mean shit. he might have had a million options it doesn't matter that he chose the one that was a year and a half younger than him. Jesus.
@@iCrimzon I mean this is the world now so if you don’t use your brain then you’ll just get fucked and isn’t this the second time he’s done this like does he not learn from his mistakes or something. 😑
Jeez, that Carson take was a big PepePains…
@oh no allah deliver us from evil uwu
He is just so bored these days. Rambles on for 15 minutes about cancer drama nobody cares about. “Just forget it dude whatever dude I’m done talking about this” (pause for 10 seconds) “wait do you guys not get this, really? I’ll explain-“
??? His take is completely rational, there is choice in love. Yeah, it happens to normal people who actually socially see eachother either in school or work, but Carson was in a completely different situation. Failing to see the distinction is more cringe then Chris Chan
@@slashs1318 how is Carson in the wrong. He got with a girl. how broke does he have to be before it’s ok to date her and at what point is his following to large?
@@travisanderson9094 when it comes to Carson, I don't know if he is wrong or right. I don't know if he groomed or not. No one but Carson will ever know. What we do know, however, is that Carson didn't meet this girl because of normal dialty circumstances that the average Joe goes through. He met her because if his position online. He made the decision (and I mean thousands of micro decisions) to be with her over sooo many other girls. Mr cow and I both believe that to be, kinda fuckin weird. And if that doesn't make sense to you, idk what will. Is he wrong? Idk. Did he make bad decisions? Absolutely. Is he kind of a creep? I wouldn't support him.
Bruh how is a 19 Year Old dating a 17 Year Old Grooming
But yeah that PVC Pipe Take was peper pain
nah it’s a fair point to consider
I agree, many people think that once you reach 18 you’re automatically a full fledged adult. it’s only by law you are considered an adult but in reality, a 17 year or a 19 year old aren’t that much different having same level of maturity as a adolescent. Yes carson was very scheming but grooming? That’s just bullsht and a stretch to say
Considering that he talked to her before he really blew up shows that he didn’t really do anything too bad, she wasn’t even a groupie, so it’s not like he was in a power position really. I don’t get these out of context takes, 2 year difference leave it at that, there’s nothing more to it.
Pepper Pane 'not agreeing with The Goblins every take' Pepper Pane
xqc is right, he is correct in asking why did carson, an adult, choose the person that he knew was a minor out of all of the choices possible. Whether he could think about it from a career ruining standpoint or as a moral standpoint, why would he choose one of the people that is a minor out of the dozens of adults
Fun fact, Carson had only just over 10k subs at the time of him "grooming" so what fuckin power dynamic did he really have?
There can be a dynamic from 5k subs, also he didn’t stop doing it after that he did it up to over a million subs, and he admitted to having pictures and that is legally CP up to 17.
he literally went after a random fan in his dms lmao
@@ryanpruner1853 “went after” when she’s the one who kept initiating convos
But who really care about Carson, let’s worry about our own personal lives.
@@WraithLK Tbh, seeing him make content again would be nice. But he’s “scared” of all these annoying people who keep bringing this up.
I'll say this again, Carson was a 19 year old kid with a very small TH-cam following at the time this "grooming" occurred, so you CANNOT use the "power abuse" argument because it does not apply.
Now Felix is trying to create a comparison in his head by applying the situation to himself, and as a 25 year old MAN who has been one of the most popular streamers on Twitch for quite a long time now, he KNOWS what he should and shouldn't do, but Felix's current circumstances and Carson's previous circumstances are worlds apart, so it's not a fair comparison.
Bay zed
10k subs isn't that powerless
she was a fan though so it automatically disproves your point that there was no power dynamic
You downplay the fact that he had 10,000 subscribers back then by just saying "small following". Felix just struggles to articulate things when he has a point. It's that following on top of the age difference along with the abundance of choices Felix was talking about. I'm not saying he's a pedo or whatever but there's definitely wrongdoing.
@@nice7517 Duh but that's not how it went, she was a fan lol
Fun fact: xqc cannot believe the events that occurred on todays live stream fails
Didn’t think x would have a bad take on Carson smh
yea, first time seeing him have a bad take tbh
@@deadbush1495 This is the first time you have heard him say a bad take? You might just have missed a lot, though.
Actual dogshit take from X
@@leotrace9158 might have, lol
It's weird because I remember he was on his side when the drama started
actual zerohead take from xqc on carlson
Cringe
"Power dynamic" between a 20k sub youtuber and a fan, because if she rejects him he will use his giagantic influence to harm her in some way!
except that makes no sense and there is actually 0 examples of him "abusing his power" in the dms.
ya idk y people are aganist fans and content creators in relationships, like its not always a power dynamic and its always assumed that there is a power dynamic whenever they date a fan when heres been tons of good relationships between fans and creators
wasn;t the whole ordeal in 2019? pretty sure he was big. also it's not that he will hurt her but fans would feel more inclined to say yes. this is just my take so disagree if you want
@@ssteel everyone is saying that he had around 10k to 30k followers or something which wasnt that big
@@ssteel it happened way earlier, but it only became known in 2019
Dude at what point does it go from a power dynamic to just having game. Like it’s weird to have sex with a guy and for some reason it’s wrong because he’s famous??? How poor does he have to be before it becomes morally acceptable to date people.
saying he had 20k subs at the time like that somehow disproves the power dynamic. she looked up to him, and he asked when she was turning 18, and LITERALLY ADMITTED he shouldn’t be talking to her in their messages together.
he’s absolutely NOT a predator. and shouldn’t be exiled into that category. but it’s weird as fuck especially when his friends distanced themselves from him and he kept doing the weird shit.
@@Frogtea he didn't use his power dynamic to gain anything from the dms we see of them. she was the one who initiated it & it was a normal convo of a 19 yr old with a 17yr old. he didn't power abuse even if he had a power dynamic.
@@roxas4587 "even if he had" no, he DOES have. 20k or however many subs he had at the time is power, just in a different sense than you may realize. and it's not like it's some superpower he harnesses. he abused it when he responded to her message and chose to pursue her after learning her age, and after even admitting in their discord messages he shouldn't.
@@havocmg that's a completely different scenario considering we're talking about the relationship between a content creator and someone who is LITERALLY underage?? how is that so hard to comprehend?
but then i remember im taking time out of my day to argue with kids in a youtube comment section who are already underage and don't realize the seriousness.
This is a good way to age poll xqc’s audience right here.
Bruh
Are people seriously just gonna ignore everything else schaltt and Conor said about Carson on how he admitted he was texting more than 1 underage girl and didn't care?
Carson also admitted it was something he shouldn't be doing but still kept on doing it
Yes, people are seriously ignoring everything else now. It went from everyone hates Carlson to everyone now defends him.
People are ignoring it because there is no evidence or context to go off of. Please enlighten me where Carson himself admits to the other girls existing, and it not being hearsay.
This is what I've been trying find in conversations but a lot of people just push that aside and only talk about the 17 and 19, when there is a possibility that he has been doing it with younger girls.
Snowflake
Did they actually say that? Genuinely curious I didn’t know.
17 is perfectly okay if you're 19, doesn't matter who he chooses and his status is irrelivant they're 17 fair game move on
18 is the legal age, not 17. Also hes famous. That's the point hes making.
@@FroggerC legal age is pretty stupid for this case considering if he’d have been in a different country or even a different state, no one would bat an eye
@@FroggerC at the time Carson wasn't famous, that's the thing, he was tiny at the time and wasn't this big content creator using his influence to get his own way. And of course there is nothing wrong with a 19 and 17 year old being together.
I usually agree with xqcs takes, but these takes are dumb
@@FroggerC its 17 in Texas ?
Itsteejaye it’s 16 in most states, including Texas (where both of them lived)
“Authority and power “ lol
mans live streams for a living, authority and power
They make millions, they have lawyers, they have agents, they make mainstream news, they have hundreds of companies offering them money and sponsorships, and you don't think they have any authority or power? yikes
@@aaudorable doesnt matter when he didnt blackmail her with said power.
@@SwitchbIade I'm not sure you understand how to use power lol
@@aaudorable i do , you dont.
One of the many bad xqc takes lmao
not really?
Virgin beta chatters - "herrr 17 isn't DAT baad, my bff did it"
Chad Sigma XQC - "its ultimately up to YOU to decide who YOU love, its weird that Carson CHOSE to involve himself with someone substantially younger. Having more then 1 brain cell, you can tell this is a different situation then the classic teens falling in love. Carson could have made better decisions, EZ clap"
Absolutely bay zed.
@@slashs1318 Delusion pepelaugh
@@slashs1318 Thad Zingadingaonaire grindset - "nothing bad actually happened, 17 and 19 is both still school, having 30k subs doesn't give you wizard powers on the internet, you can't choose who you are attracted too"
When xqc’s argument makes no sense he calls chat 12 years old and claims his argument is too 5Head for chat to understand lmao
And a lot of the time he is correct. The people in chat are the same age of people who would be susceptible to grooming and manipulation, so the fact that they dont fully understand it or recognize it doesnt really surprise me. There's a reason why victims of grooming/manipulation often dont realize it until adulthood.
@@perperperpen Sigma take. Bayzed
@@perperperpen Yep I agree, I see a lot of really annoying people in his chat that try to pretend they’re smart but are actually the most brain dead degenerates on the planet
The power dynamic argument is just bullshit because there is no evidence of carson abusing it.
Carson maybe did some shady shit that led to his friend group blowing up but minecraft twitter accusing him of being a pedo groomer abuse andy based on the statements of the 17 year old at the time girl is just outrageous.
Besides he had only a small following when he was 19.
That carson take was actually 0head
That hasan quick stunlock is hilarious
This guy has lost all is CC resistance.
*S T U N N E D*
I guess Carson should stay single for the rest of his life because of the “power dynamic”.
Fax, people have to understand that just because a power dynamic exists doesn’t mean it is abused
I can’t even begin to talk about the take xqc had on Carson along side with a lot of chat
I mean xqc is right and chat and their cultural narrative is very disgusting, like stop trying to normalize pedophilia. especially if they are borderline underaged.
@@crowmaster9652 cow's take here is pretty stupid though
@@nightfire2933 Stop promoting ped0philia
@@crowmaster9652 your the type of people who cant reasonably conversate in good faith and the people i hate talking to the most cause you make the overall conversation unreasonably harder to talk about
@@aidensabyss your type of people has fabricated superiority concepts that basically influenced the birth of h1tler. You will attack gamblers but not ped0philes? Hypocrites!
unreasonably harder to talk about? Is that supposed to be a defense for ped0philes?!
Man, xQc was having a really tough time with this one. I think Asmon said what needed to be said. Don't know why but xqc sounds like he's taking a "what people want to hear" stance instead of a "what they need to hear" one which is weird coming from a certified sigma lord like him.
With all due respect, hes just giving the Twitter pleaser take. He says that 17 + 19 =normal when you're not famous, but =bad when you're famous and can use your fame for sex.
Like... all rappers, celebrities, rich people, athletes, politicians, musicians... they all use their fame for sex. And xqc listens, likes and says good things about some of these celebrities that do this. So why is it only a problem if it's a twitch streamer/ youtuber? Are people that use twitch only able to see what happens inside the twitch related sphere? You either criticize all parties that do this exact thing, or you just seem like you're being selective about who you criticize based on who you like.
I really like X, if he reads this and claim I'm a hate watcher pretending to be a juicer, then fuck me dude I guess. Just giving my hot take. If who reads this disagrees, I dont mind
Everyone does it so it's ok 5Head take
@@artyomchyornyj9264 I edited my comment because I realized some people may think that's what I meant. Read it again for clarification. If you dont want to read again I'll sum it up:
I dont care about saying that's it's good or bad. Simply that if x chooses to criticize the behavior from Carson, he should also criticize all the people who do this openly and proudly, that he knows they do it, and not only talk about this subject when its Carson. His top 10 favourite rappers all do this thing. That's kind of what I'm saying.
He isn’t a news network, sure he probably has thoughts on how other celebrities/influencers from other platforms do this but he is just commenting on the matter at hand with thoughts straight from the top of his head
I am sure if he got to really think into the issue he would have a better overall take… but his stream is only entertainment after all.
@@JasperDD I absolutely agree. I'm not here asking him to make a special part of his stream dedicated to formulating good takes. I wouldn't watch it. I'm just asking for a bit of impartiality if he does end up giving his takes on stream and to be able to have judgement of when his takes are contradictory with his overall personality.
@@gnerus1972 exactly. Imagine how hard it'd be for someone like Drake to go out in public without being instantly recognized by hundreds of people and trying to sit in a bar or something and talk to a girl without slipping up somehow about famous he is. He would have to make up a whole backstory about his life, and would that be considered morally more correct than dating someone that knows how famous you are and is a fan of your content? Imagine him trying to find girls on Tinder or some shit. Wouldn't work. So is a person of public renown supposed to just avoid dating in general and just hope that one day they meet someone who doesn't know how famous they are? Because that's also not likely to happen at all. This whole thing is so fucking stupid
unexpected stunlock
Just when I thought my day won't get better, you uploaded. Thank you editors xqcL
its completely normal for a 19 year old to keep going for girls that are 17. Its a fact that teenage girls are more attracted to boys who are older than them. I have a friend who is a girl who dated 5 guys that where 3+ year older than him and she was only 16. Its completely normal, i don't see what point xqc is trying to make. The only people who are mad about this are twitter warriors who don't have real social experiences.
I wouldn’t say 16 year olds and 19 year old/20 year old relationships are normal, mentally they are in two different head spaces (for the vast majority of people). One is going into college and starting a completely different chapter in their life, the other is still regarded as a child bound by restrictions. But generally, I personally have the mindset that if they are both in high school, it’s not that big of a deal. So a 17 year old and a 19 year old isn’t weird (to me personally) and this is coming from the perspective of an 18 year old girl. Admittedly, girls are more likely to go for older guys as opposed to younger guys.
Another example is an 18 year old dating someone in their mid 30s. There is nothing wrong with that legally, however most would agree that there is something unsettling about someone who is fresh out of high school being with someone a decade their senior. And again it’s because they have completely different mindsets and headspaces. The 18 year old would be very susceptible to being exploited, despite legally being an adult.
I’m greatly aware that the above situation has nothing to do with Carson, but I mentioned it to reiterate the fact that it’s when they have little to no shared life experiences and are in completely different points in there life where it becomes exploitive. The same age difference between a 30 year old and 40 year old would be perfectly fine, because there is little to no difference mentally between the two.
In this case I’m 50/50 on whether I agree with XQC or disagree. I agree that there are plenty of girls in the sea and SPECIFICALLY targeting 17 year olds or women younger than you is weird. That being said idk if this is the case with Carson, apparently he knew the girl prior to fame so she wasn’t pressured. However I disagree that as soon as you find out they are 17 and you are 19 that you abort, you can simply refrain from sexual shit for less than a year. And as I said a 2 year gap like that when they are both in high school isn’t weird.
literally 3 year difference is everyone in the same grade. Was Felix homeschool or smth? When I was at grade 12 I was in my late 15s while boys in my class were already 18..
@@juodagalvesniegena714 nah he wasn’t homeschooled but he went to school in France, so perhaps it’s a cultural thing. I know here in the uk, it would generally be seen as weird for a 16 year old to date a 19 year old, there are memes about it. So I guess I see where felix is coming from, but in this instance, 17 year old and a 19 year old is fine, especially since they had met prior to him becoming famous
Maybe I'm in the wrong but I feel the issue X is focusing on is the wrong one. It's not if he did something illegal or had other choices it's the idea that a 19 year old dating a 17 is some terrible bad idea. I think a 2 year age gap is perfectly fine.
Did we forget about partner manager Hassan? Now that's a real predator, not the socially awkward kid who got giddy because girls started to actually talk to him for the first time in his life. It's frustrating to see that many actual predators are just forgotten a week after they've been exposed but Carson is still staying in people's heads for something so mundane and quite common in America.
Well it was the same situation but just in different terms and twitch also actively hid the situation versus Carsons friends putting on the forefront, however it's kind of dumb to use the giddy kid argument when he's a legal adult who has been on the internet since his early teens, not to mention according to multiple friends he did it with multiple different girls repeatedly and lied to his friends about the situation he was in repeatedly, what Hasan did was give female creators affiliate or even partner for nude pictures of themselves whilst actively lying to his employers, both are weird fucks regardless, and your whataboutism doesn't help anything
@@cosmoknot1679 yeah, the same friends that acted like they never heard of the situation, said that they "called the fbi", went to KEEMSTAR out of all people after shit hit the fan and the same ones that bailed immediately when their friend did something stupid
@@gnerus1972 wait do you wanna watch that Carson video on the weekly slap again or are you going to repeat the same false shit over and over again?
@@gnerus1972 also that same friend slimecicle did do something stupid just like Carson, cscoop, traves, and hugbox did but that doesn't make what Carson did any less stupid
@@gnerus1972 also imagine using whataboutism
I can’t believe that xqc couldn’t believe these livestream fails!
Carson and PewDiePie are one of the cringiest people on TH-cam
I’m a senior in high school and I’m very young for my grade but there are guys that are 19 dating 17 year olds IN THE SAME GRADE. A senior dating a freshman, not cool man, but 2 seniors, cmon man who cares really. They’re the same age and experience practically so stfu about this grooming stuff.
Felix Lengyel, also known as xQc, shit himself during a Twitch stream today and in classic kip-rep fashion, he didn’t even pretend to look embarrassed.
It all started when Twitch streamer Darkhorse33 asked him to describe his life and his lifestyle. “It’s not too cool, it’s just not in-between,” he said. The first clue was when he described himself as a “social, nerdy person”.
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“Don’t try and understand this lifestyle, you’ll never fit in,” Lengyel told viewers. “You are you, I am me. I’m a dork.”
The stupid comments continued. “It’s just not a good lifestyle. There’s no stability in it,” he said. “Nothing to get too depressed about. You know, if you do get depressed and you’re dealing with something real and you feel like life is ending, or something’s not going right, there’s nothing to get too low about. You need something more stable, like your job.”
He also gave the opinion that drugs should be legal.
“I’m not a drug dealer,” he said. “I’m not that cool. But I just think it’s an option.”
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He then explained the real reason he was wearing a cat mask and hoodie in his streaming video. “I’m usually like that in life. Like I wear my hoodie all the time, it’s just more comfortable.”
Lengyel then proceeded to shit his pants.
Lengyel has since taken down the offending stream and taken to Twitter to explain himself.
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Here’s what he had to say:
Man this has been a real trip, my own words have taken me by surprise and turned into a media frenzy and I'm just honestly really blown away and in shock. I mean I could have totally planned this, but I didn't. In fact I'm so unprepared that I forgot to pack shorts for today. My mom bought me a shirt that has skulls on it and when she realized what she bought me she tried to give me a refund, but I refused to take it back because I am still twelve. But regardless, I do not want to be a dick or anything so I'm sorry if I offended anyone and I'll try to be better. Thanks to everyone who's stuck with me this long. I'm just a teenager who loves video games and some cats. Lol I'll get a lot better in no time. Cheers.
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Correction: This article originally said Felix Lengyel was streaming on Viacom’s Twitch, rather than Twitch’s sister company, Viacom. We’ve changed the article to reflect the change.
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9:40 i choked so hard on this tts i'm literally in the fucking hospital right now i almost fucking died
the fact that he calls grooming a relationship of a 19 year old and 17 year old just proves he has no fucking idea of what he's talking about
Lost million brain cell watching this
Chatting pepperpains
Chatting buttchess
chat is incapable of using a single brain cell nowadays…
3:56 to skip boring Carson stuff
18 as a age of consent incredibly rare around the world, most countries and states have at age of consent between 14 and 16
I mean just cause the legal age is 14 doesn’t mean that’s great
2 livestream fails video in one day... Weirdchamp
In what world do we live in when a 19 yr old dating a 17 yr old is wrong. My parents were ten years apart when they were married. This is completely blown out of proportion.
That's Fucking hilarious. Asmond was saying the people that think like that have never been outside and then xqc disagreed with him as if on que
as if asmon has seen sunshine in the past decade
i dont agree with xqc about the carson thing but its his opinion no one should take it personally
You shouldn't agree with carson because that would warrant you as pushing for legalizing pedophilia.
Kind of pathetic to force your cultural narrative when its just weird to make pedophilia a norm.
@2Frog2 2Frog22 You shouldn't promote ped0s bro that promotes human trafficking.
@@crowmaster9652 how tf does that promote human trafficking?? bro do u know what even happened? seems like u are on some other story bro.
@@mrgeists "you even know what happened? "
as old as time at this point
stop promoting ped0philia
@@gnerus1972 ey bro stop promoting ped0 culture
When did the editor start coming up with these titles? xQcL
Rubius que haces aquí, no tenías vacaciones? Sadge
Pepepains
i feel like xqc usually tells us not to put streamers on a podium, yet hes saying carson should be treated differently because hes a streamer and not a "normie"
The problem with X's power dynamic argument is that once someone is successful/rich enough, their dating pool will be practically non-existent. Hell, Jeff Bezos would only be allowed to bang Elon Musk.
For the power dynamic to be applicable for a situation is if the 2 people that are in a relationship also work together/in the same industry. Every case is unique, but my statement would be applied generally.
ur right but if ur both 23 and theres a power dynamic ur more responcible and wont be as easily manipulated as a kid. the fact carson had other options is what makes it bad
@@rrchy. so what he had other options, unless you want to claim that a 17-19 relationship is inherently wrong, it’s irrelevant. If it’s ok it doesn’t matter a 20 year old was interested
If you want to skip the Carson stunlock 4:04 5:03
i dont think what carson did was worthy of ruining his career but xqc is right in asking why would he choose the person that he knows is a minor and he knows is wrong to have relations with. again i think this action ruining his whole career is way to much but xqc is right.
Is he really not supposed to date someone in his grade. They’re so close in age that they could have shared a math class. Stfu with this minor stuff
3:00 Because love isn't decided by age
what a 0head take
@@-green-405 it isn't, you can love sum1 who's 15 but choose not to be with them bc of their age also. He just chose to continue being with her bc she was only 1 year away from being 18 and they're only two years apart
BAY ZED: XQC 2021 "I dont like the way CLOTHES look" Pepega Clap
I’m convinced the person who made the statement “don’t judge a book by its cover” must’ve been a weirdo. I take one look at Carson and not one part of me is shocked at what he did. Imagine a second year university student dating a sixth form student.
Wtf is a sixth form student
@@lulgrim I live in the uk so I’ll try my best to explain.
Secondary school 11-16
Sixth form student 16-18
University student 18+
xQc CANT BELIEVE THESE CRAZY LIVESTREAM FAIL😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😂😂👌👌👌🔥🔥🔥
Mr Cows recent takes have been sub optimal at best; maybe they always were? Unlucky.
Unlucky. 🤡
His futa take was bay zed at least
your channel has 1.69m subs now?
dude i remember when you had less than 10k playing OW LOL
IMO any relationship that fits within the / 2 + 7 rule is fine. So 19 / 2 + 7 = 16.5, 17yo is fine for a 19yo. 21 however (21 / 2 + 7 = 17.5) means it would be creepy
Debatable, because 20 / 2 + 7 = 17 and if I was a 20 year old I’m not dating a 17 year old that’s slightly dodgy imo but I can sort of see how it’s accurate with certain ages.
What is the meaning of bay zed??!
The way the twitch streamer xQcOW pronounces based. Used when he is giving a take that most others wouldn't.
nowadays its just used when chat agrees with the streamers take
felix telling other people they can't comprehend things, yeah about that...
He really got stunlocked on Carson, huh
wtf is stunlocked ? it has just came out of nowhere
Imagine having to break up with your girlfriend who is a year younger than you because she turns 18 2 months after you turn 19 and you have 200 more facebook friends lmfao
twitters braindamage has long surpassed comedy levels
To this day, I still think that Carson got robbed of his entire career. Wouldn't surprise me if he fell into depression again. Want to know what child grooming was? The shit that EDP did, but everything that Carson talked about with people on Discord was always consensual. Actual fucking joke that people called him a pedo, she could have been 10 seconds away from turning 18 and her then taken nudes would still be called CP
PepeLaugh Stunlocked
10k subs = position of power OMEGALUL
It would have been nice to not add the carson take
PoSiTiOn oF pOwEr. I guess xqc can never be in a relationship now, because he will always be in that position.
Guys this is random but what is Forsen's narrator called?
It’s funny how asmon says that only people who stay inside and arent social would agree that Carson was grooming. LITERALLY XQC 😂
I watched this from qts channel already 😎
isnt it ironic that people claim „power difference“ yet HE is the one having his existence and reputation destroyed by HER? If he is so much more powerful, why didnt he prevent it?
Title idea:
“xqc CAN believe these livestream fails”
can someone explain what carson did lol im so confused
I don’t think Carson did anything wrong besides the way he came back. It’s just super weird having your return be on someone else’s stream, especially when you know Miz just used Carson as mega-clickbait. I think Carson should have just made a video saying that he doesn’t think what he did was wrong, and I would be on his side.
But no matter what, I hope Carson got the help that he supposedly needed.
VeryPog
legal age = ok, is the worst argument ever. Consent is 12 years at some countries
HONESTLY
16 is the norm in 1st world countries.
@@SwitchbIade norm isnt a good argument either holy fuck
@@Stuffydice yes it is in this case
FUCKING STUNLOCKED AGAIN
11:44 she sounded like a seagull lol
How tf would hasan ever fit into a medium I started wearing large freshman year in highschool and I’m average height and weight lmao
i cant even listen to asmongold im too obsessed with his eyebrows
I CAAAAAANT BELIVE MY EYES 🔭
Millionaires complaining about clothes when they can literally afford custom clothing... weird
carson was talking to other young girls is what i dont think people understand.
And why does that matter? If he wants to have a relationship with his consenting fans who are within the legal age to make that choice, I dont see why thats a problem. You say "young girls" but fail to mention that carson is a young guy. By your logic A LOT of celebrities, musicians, and internet famous people should be cancelled.
@@Jinxser You think they were all in the legal age?
@@Jinxser By the way carson’s friends are reacting, i doubt it
I’m confused by the power dynamic thing. Yeah he was approached by girls cuz he’s famous but I didn’t see anything that implied he was actively using his status to keep them interested. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think he did much wrong on a moral standpoint
I mean there are fence pushers in this blasted society especially with carsons racial culture where they push the legal age requirement for women so guys can manipulate them when they are young. Its funny cause chat would defend normalizing pedophilia but would mob on anyone promoting gambling, sick and pathetic.
@@crowmaster9652 damn bro I think that raisin might've actually been your dumbass brain lul
@@crowmaster9652 bro you are trippin. literally everyone agrees that the age gap was not the problem. go back to twitter bro
@@sturfryd4983 how bout No
X CARSON TAKE IS THE ONLY TRUE TAKE
Watching xQc misunderstand what people say hurts soooooo much. Dude legit takes one word from any sentence and just fucking runs with it even if the context has NOTHING to do with the originally topic. The definition of ADHD and following the dopamine
Xqcs take on the Carson situation made absolutely no sense
pretty sure ive seen somewhere that carson had some sort of mental health issues for a long time, which likely caused him to stick with that underage girl. people acting like he was mentally sane and did that are pretty much assuming things.
Another banger title 😎
Where are the gameplay videos, editor? It's nothing but react andy recently.
did a seagull swoop by at the end?
Stunlocked again omegalul