Maaaan I was at the first title game these 2 played & maaaan CG runs that offense as efficiently as any team I've seen. Good season ESL time to grind & get back.
@@tylerharris1163 don’t ever leave it up to the refs.. and ESL historically gets a lot of penalties.. but they usually make up for it with their skill/effort
If it's run well- and nobody runs it better than CG- it requires the defense to be simultaneously extremely fast, physical, and fundamentally sound on every single play. And of course, it's not as popular now as it was 15-20 years ago, so many teams don't see/practice against it. I do remember when Libertyville played CG in the 7A championship game back in 2004, that defense was so fast and so good that I don't think CG gained more than about 80 yards of offense the whole game (and as someone who went to Warren in Gurnee, it always pains me to praise Libertyville). That's tough to do, though. It's a grinding offense that tends to wear defenses down over the course of the game- mentally as much as physically- and if one person isn't in their gap on even one play, it can kill you.
This was one of those games where whoever had the ball last won. I'm most surprised that CG ran the ball 54 time and didn't fumble once. Especially, while running it so much between the tackles of a good defense like ESL. One stripped ball or bad handoff could have changed the outcome. If we're lucky, we'll see Round 3 between these two good programs next year. Both teams will bring back a lot of talent and rebuild where needed as they always do. ESL will be tough to stop (as always) next year on offense with their most productive RB/WR returning and a FR QB who should be proud of his experience as in a State Championship game.
I agree with everything you said, except that ESL did have a chance with the ball last, and they threw an interception. I think I would classify the game they played two years prior, that I think ended 39-36, more in that fashion. This game was much more of a grinding, defensive affair than that one. That said, posting this after ESL just trounced Loyola a week ago- which I would not have thought possible- and I'm not sure anybody is stopping them this year.
The Cary Grove offensive and defensive linesmen must have won it for the team. To muscle their offense down the field running the ball most of the time is attributed to the line. Also the CG defensive line must have kept enough pressure on the ESTL qb to stymie a fast passing attack. I think lots of heavy lifting and hard work in the weight room can develop strength to win the frontline battle which can overcome a team with quickness and speed.
Incredible game! Both teams are pretty special. I want to give special props to Cary Grove Offensive Line. Those young Men played an outstanding game, ESPECIALLY when the CG Offense got into the Red Zone. Their technique is immaculate, and those are some big, stong boys on that line! To me, they are the MVP of the game. Congratulations!
Congratulation to both teams for making it to the championship game again. That is a great achievement in itself. Both teams have outstanding talent on both sides of the ball. CG's DB's dominated ESL passing game and CG outside containment made ESL run the ball up the middle where they had some success because number 5 is a stud. In who's playbook did it say kick the ball to number 8 for CG. (Always that one special team coach that has to make a point I guess.) That kind of arrogance loses a lot of games. That number 8 kid is a stud and has outstanding speed and should never have a ball kicked in his direction ever. He will be playing at the next level. ESL did a fairly good job of plugging up the middle, but their outside containment was very poor, and number 8 took full advantage of it. . Inside Blocking was very good for both sides actually. CG had better downfield blocking allowing runs to extend further. CG's linebackers and outstanding DB's were the key to this victory IMO. They pretty much shut down a pretty explosive offence. This game was very close and great talent on both teams.
I’m from the state of Texas where high school football is religious down there. I wish that I could go back in a time machine and organize a national championship game between East St. Louis vs Houston Yates in 1985. That game would’ve been the game of the decade during that era. Both of those teams that year were just unstoppable. The Flyers were crowned National Champions that year, but the Yates Lions from Houston probably would’ve had something to say about that.
@@jamesmedford2025 yeah we played a team that ran this same thing in the playoffs back in 2010 but our defense who I thought was the best in the nation and world at that time Shut it down from the beginning to end of the game and Everett golson our QB went off on them boas with that air raid O had back then
it was on the tackle it was a 5 yard penalty added on the run and instead of the ref calling 4th down which it should have been he said repeat 3rd down. wrong call. you assess the penalty which they did or it gets replayed from previous spot and repeat the down@@callofduty4nut
So was the phantom call on the kickoff return for a TD, so I guess the "bad calls" cancel themselves out. There were ZERO penalties on that Kick Return. None.
I have never seen that kind of milking of the last 12 minutes. We needed a stop bad and Pops on the last minute left. Shanklin wasn't ready, but that experience will get him ready for next year. I hear he is the next best thing to sliced bread.
Shanklin has good height and skills, just inexperienced. However, I expect Flyers will still be dominant Shanklin getting into the championship game is good for his confidence. Flyers will Probably reach state Shanklin's 3 years left at East St Louis.
I would have like to have seen coach Walls and the sumner bull dogs play the East St Louis Flyers. Sumner ran a similar option type offensive scheme back in the 70s and 80s. However, though sumner had athletic explosive players on the entire team. Sumner would have given the flyers all kinds of head aches. They were putting up 60, 70 points every week. Wish bone with three backs in the back field who all could run 4.4 or 4.3 speed. Nightmare.
Id love to get input from someone who saw the game about several plays which are difficult to accurately determine what happened. Near the end of the first half was the east st. Louis WR out of bounds and thats why the final play of the half was from the previous spot? Was CGs kick return for TD that was called back a penalty or an incorrect called penalty? Was the spot on the CG 4th down conversion a favorable one for the or quite accurate?
Having watched the game, yes the play near the end of the first half was out of bounds. He didn’t look to get his second foot in on replays either, though it was close. The kickoff return that got called back was another correct call. For the fourth down play, initially it looked like they might have stopped him, but when they showed further replays he had the first down, even if the spot was a tad generous. To hear it from Flyers fans, the refs were all wearing white hoods and were clearly out to get them from the get go, but that’s sour milk and whining from a classless fanbase and forgetting to acknowledge another well played, classic game.
Unfortunately, at this level the scoreboard operators often aren't given the time to accurately do this as there are fewer people monitoring this and passing along accurate information in a timely manner. It would be nice though, I agree.
The triple option, almost impossible to stop, ask everyone in the playoffs, they found out, just like East St. Louis did. Same two teams will be there next year.
This is from Google so I don't know how accurate these numbers are? ..... East St. Louis, Illinois has a 2023 population of 17,748. East St. Louis is currently declining at a rate of -1.24% annually and its population has decreased by -3.66% since the most recent census, which recorded a population of 18,423 in 2020. I am not making any accusations here! But i was wondering if the East St. Louis Flyers program recruits players from surrounding towns (and the state of Missouri)? .... the size & talent they have each year is pretty consistent and impressive! So i was curious if anyone knows where some of the players actually live? ..... I am assuming the Flyers follow all the IHSA rules. Do they get any transfers from other school districts? ..... Or are all the players on the Flyers really from East St. Louis, Illinois?
No they didn’t all come from East St. Louis, Illinois even though it would be impossibly to know where high school kids reside. Their most well known transfer was a couple years ago when the #1 WR in the country Luther Burden transferred from Cardinal Ritter in St. Louis, Missouri.
@Unknown-ih7pq thanks for the information! .... i am really amazed at the size of the Flyers each year! It was especially evident last year when they played PR in the class 6A championship game. East St. Louis wasn't quite as big this year. I posed the question because it is mind-boggling to think that a town of 20,000 has that many big kids. There have to be some transfers just like Luther Burden. And yes, I do remember Luther Burden! ...... every time he had the ball in his hands, he was a threat to score. I think he committed to the Missouri Tigers. I am going to look him up to see how he is doing.
I'm curious to know why you think it's ok to question my communities integrity. Secondly, and I googled this, why is there always not black refs when certain schools play certain schools. Thirdly, since we throwing accusations, why do certain looking teams run that style of offense. Is it lack of speed, intelligence, or talent. Are all the parents in Cary racists like the video showed or are the Cary teams just a bunch of battering rams with no skills. I'm so sick of you guys and yall underhanded wickedness.
@ericharris7484 Integrity of the community is not being questioned at all. I was just wondering if the players are all coming from East St. Louis itself? ..... the sheer size of the Flyers varsity 🏈 team each season is amazing! ..... I look at some of the Flyers team, and they look like college players 😳 ..... are these kids all coming from a town that has a population of less than 20,000 people? ..... I think that is a fair question!
@@Johnny-zt6fb9oj8q Also East St. Louis is actually 5A by enrollment but elect to play up to 6A but per their conference agreement or ultimatum whatever it is they can’t play up in 7A or 8A. Apparently their other conference members didn’t want to play them in the playoffs (7A and 8A) so they all came to this agreement.
Bad coaching by E.Stlouis coach Darren sunkett.. Cary Grove runs the triple option same a s they did 2 years ago. Why would Sunkett use 3 down lineman against a triple option team. Stack the line with four or five lineman and make them beat you with their passing. E.St.louis has the speed to stop them one on one. He should have learned this 2 years ago but he returned to state doin the same dumb mistake.. The holes Cary Grove ran thru with only three down lineman was to easy. If coach sunkett don't correct this problem he'll continue to lose Championships to triple option teams.. Also he had a go running back in #5 he should have used the run game which did pretty good when the quarterback got hurt. Hats off to Cary Grove for exposing that weak front line for a championship.
I was in Texas visiting some friends of mine and one of my friends sons play for humble atascotia high school down there and they played East St. Louis the week that I was there and decided to go watch with her and her family and man ohh man did Atascotia absolutely destroy and kick the living shit out of ESL I mean the pummeled their asses and I was pretty shocked how bad they got whooped. I have a lot of respect for that program, but I tell you what Texas high school football doesn’t play around. Unless your schools like Mater Dei, St. John Bosco, IMG academy or St. Francis academy Baltimore when they had Biff Pogi as their coach good luck playing against their top schools because they don’t mess around..
ESL gets their asses handed to them on a national stage every time they attempt it so it really doesn’t matter how willing they are to travel. They own the small teams around them in central/southern IL and lose to similarly talented teams.
Cary Grove can't, they're in the fox valley which is a full regular season schedule. Though to be fair, Prairie Ridge is in that conference as well so it's not like they go through the season unchallenged. (In fact I believe it was prairie ridge or another school that gave Cary Grove their only season loss?
@@ethanbrown1711 PR beat them by one point after the kicker missed an XP that would have tied the game at the end. Huntley also beat them by one point. So that was their two losses. They do play a much tougher schedule than the ESL homers want to believe.
@@callofduty4nut that's right, sorry it's been a while since I've been in the fox valley area, moved for work to north shore and it's been hard keeping up with them. For reference as to how long ago that was, I left McHenry County when Woodstock was still in the FVC. And then PR had that back to back state championship and that was around when it became too hard to come visit family on those weekends. But yes, FVC is probably the most underrated conference in Illinois, and definitely doesn't get much respect
@@toreydshaun I thought calls were fair on both sides. Defending the triple option takes discipline. Players can be quick and athletic but if discipline is lacking, then this is not good. Flyers have beaten Prairie Ridge twice. However, Prairie Ridge does not seem to execute triple option to perfection like Cary Grove. Also, Cary Grove has better size. Triple option effectiveness is having a smart quarterback, big powerful fullback, fast elusive split back and a decent size strong offensive line averaging 260 lbs that blocks well. Cary Grove has all of the qualities listed above. Their coach is top notch too. I am surprised that Prairie Ridge defeated Cary Grove during the regular season. Perhaps, because of the similarities in style.
16:00 mark, I watched the game live. ESL stopped Cary on 4th and 1. Everybody knew it was a turnover on downs then the refs all of sudden gives them the first down. I’m telling you Illinois high school board needs to do an investigation. Refs helped Cary.
Did you watch the replay? ..... Logan Abrams (#46) initially seemed like he would be stopped short of the line to gain. But he surged ahead & clearly picked up the 1st down. His forward progress was never stopped!
@@kole3737 they moved the ball forward on the punt that landed at like the 12 all the way to the 20 and on the fourth down, they moved the ball backwards from the spot then brought the chains out
@RylanHerndon-yh7re none of that changed the game at all and didn't even matter if it happened and they really was correcting a mistake. Hell 5 times they moved the ball forward or gave a bad spot for yall. The. The face mask call that would have made yall punt was not a good call. It was a clean tackle literally. And cary was holding the whole game no calls. Come on now
@@greenghost5009 Then why make the comment? They’re not a private school. They can’t recruit. They don’t even do what ESL has done bringing in people from all over the metro and changing their address for a year or so like with Burden. They literally have to rebuild every year or two with local players and yet have four titles in the last 13 years. So really, I don’t get what your point is. We’re not down south. Heck, ESL has gotten killed in all their national games the past few years, so it’s just a completely pointless comment.
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lol, you know when butt hurt people say the refs won them game, they say it out of hate, but as a person who watched this game all the way through, the refs saved Cary grove in the fourth quarter. East saint Louis came out in the second half guns blazing. Even when they lost there D1 qb, they depended on the running game. They couldn’t be stopped. Until the fourth quarter when cart got the ball, the refs gave them a converted 4 and 1 when they were really stopped and East should have got the ball back. Then the refs called a false face mask penalty on East St. Louis and gave Cary a 4th and 1 when it should have been a 4th and 5. I can honestly say the better team lost the game. Refs really helped Cary In the 4th quarter.
1-they got the first down on the fourth down as shown by numerous replays and both commentators agreed. I’m not sure why people keep repeating this narrative when it was literally broadcast and replays showed he got it. 2. The face mask was a five yard face mask because it was off the ball, and once again replays showed it happen. 3. That’s two losses to CG in two attempts. For a supposed state powerhouse, I’m surprised you rely so much on officiating and can’t just blow everyone out like your fanbase believes they should. Maybe bring your own refs next year if that’s the issue so you don’t end up 0-3.
@@callofduty4nut bullshit, the refs moved the ball up, I watched the game dummy, refs helped,Cary grove in the fourth, not,to mention ESL played the second half with a freshman qb.
Fundamentals smash mouth football. That is what I like. Cary Grove has discipline. To defend the triple option, the defense must have mental smarts. Flyers are built around quick athletic players, sweep run plays, spread type offensive scheme. However, quick physical run scheme like a triple option can beat an athletic team most of the time. Cary Grove is physical and they run triple option better than Prairie ridge.
@@Bouttime He clearly wasn’t, based on the replay and the commentators even acknowledged that. Might have gotten a few more inches but he had the first down.
I’ve seen that comment made from quite a few ESL fans both this year and two years ago. It’s interesting that the refs just decided to take a year off from ‘helping out the white boys’ last year against PR, huh? Weird, considering that’s another majority white school about 20 minutes from CG….but ESL beat them twice. It sure is strange that any time ESL actually loses its because of racist refs. How in the world did you all manage to get 11 titles going up against such insurmountable odds? It’s never possible for your team to actually get outplayed, is it? Just racist refs. Great outlook to have about life.
@@callofduty4nutI literally have a picture of a call they called out right before the half he was in with would have put us at the 5 yard line which means we could have scored or kicked a three and it could have went to ot🤷🏾♂️
I’m from the state of Texas where high school football is religious down there. I wish that I could go back in a time machine and organize a national championship game between East St. Louis vs Houston Yates in 1985. That game would’ve been the game of the decade during that era. Both of those teams that year were just unstoppable. The Flyers were crowned National Champions that year, but the Yates Lions from Houston probably would’ve had something to say about that.
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This game did not disappoint me...What a game! CG and that slight of hand ball play beat us again. Kudos to their coaches and kids. Much respect.
Cary grove last drive took 10 minutes off the clock can’t get any better than that
The consistency required to sustain a 10 minute drive is amazing and glorious in itself. Rare at any level much less high school.
Maaaan I was at the first title game these 2 played & maaaan CG runs that offense as efficiently as any team I've seen. Good season ESL time to grind & get back.
That was a tough loss for ESL. Those gentlemen played great. Great game. CG is the alma mater. Memories of those hallways.
10 minute drive the craziest finish I’ve ever seen…
Refs helped them man. Give ESL there Ring.
@@tylerharris1163 don’t ever leave it up to the refs.. and ESL historically gets a lot of penalties.. but they usually make up for it with their skill/effort
5 Downs. Again!@@tylerharris1163
@@tylerharris1163ESL is the most undisciplined team in Illinois by far the penalties we’re on them
I feel like a triple option is so hard too stop especially if you only see it once that whole year
Yep it’s perhaps the most lethal offense ever because if you can’t stop it it takes away chunks of time off the clock
If it's run well- and nobody runs it better than CG- it requires the defense to be simultaneously extremely fast, physical, and fundamentally sound on every single play. And of course, it's not as popular now as it was 15-20 years ago, so many teams don't see/practice against it. I do remember when Libertyville played CG in the 7A championship game back in 2004, that defense was so fast and so good that I don't think CG gained more than about 80 yards of offense the whole game (and as someone who went to Warren in Gurnee, it always pains me to praise Libertyville). That's tough to do, though. It's a grinding offense that tends to wear defenses down over the course of the game- mentally as much as physically- and if one person isn't in their gap on even one play, it can kill you.
This was one of those games where whoever had the ball last won. I'm most surprised that CG ran the ball 54 time and didn't fumble once. Especially, while running it so much between the tackles of a good defense like ESL. One stripped ball or bad handoff could have changed the outcome. If we're lucky, we'll see Round 3 between these two good programs next year. Both teams will bring back a lot of talent and rebuild where needed as they always do. ESL will be tough to stop (as always) next year on offense with their most productive RB/WR returning and a FR QB who should be proud of his experience as in a State Championship game.
I agree with everything you said, except that ESL did have a chance with the ball last, and they threw an interception. I think I would classify the game they played two years prior, that I think ended 39-36, more in that fashion. This game was much more of a grinding, defensive affair than that one.
That said, posting this after ESL just trounced Loyola a week ago- which I would not have thought possible- and I'm not sure anybody is stopping them this year.
Great game. 5 for ESTL and 8 for Penn put on a show. 46 is a big boy and hard to stop.
The Cary Grove offensive and defensive linesmen must have won it for the team. To muscle their offense down the field running the ball most of the time is attributed to the line. Also the CG defensive line must have kept enough pressure on the ESTL qb to stymie a fast passing attack. I think lots of heavy lifting and hard work in the weight room can develop strength to win the frontline battle which can overcome a team with quickness and speed.
@@Principalsareamust istg that’s crazy 😂
@@Principalsareamust I believe there was one C-G holding call that killed one of their drives.
The O-line, and the QB being able to distribute to the right read in the option. The ESL defense had to be gasping for breath at the end of that drive
Incredible game!
Both teams are pretty special.
I want to give special props to Cary Grove Offensive Line.
Those young Men played an outstanding game, ESPECIALLY when the CG Offense got into the Red Zone.
Their technique is immaculate, and those are some big, stong boys on that line!
To me, they are the MVP of the game.
Congratulations!
Congratulation to both teams for making it to the championship game again. That is a great achievement in itself. Both teams have outstanding talent on both sides of the ball. CG's DB's dominated ESL passing game and CG outside containment made ESL run the ball up the middle where they had some success because number 5 is a stud. In who's playbook did it say kick the ball to number 8 for CG. (Always that one special team coach that has to make a point I guess.) That kind of arrogance loses a lot of games. That number 8 kid is a stud and has outstanding speed and should never have a ball kicked in his direction ever. He will be playing at the next level. ESL did a fairly good job of plugging up the middle, but their outside containment was very poor, and number 8 took full advantage of it. . Inside Blocking was very good for both sides actually. CG had better downfield blocking allowing runs to extend further. CG's linebackers and outstanding DB's were the key to this victory IMO. They pretty much shut down a pretty explosive offence. This game was very close and great talent on both teams.
I’m from the state of Texas where high school football is religious down there. I wish that I could go back in a time machine and organize a national championship game between East St. Louis vs Houston Yates in 1985. That game would’ve been the game of the decade during that era. Both of those teams that year were just unstoppable. The Flyers were crowned National Champions that year, but the Yates Lions from Houston probably would’ve had something to say about that.
Congrats Trojans! Congrats to Andrew Prio-#8! Faster than them all...
Cary Grove is a classy well oiled machine- very fun to watch
They ite, that wing T would get shut down in MB real quick like we did blufton in the playoffs way back then 47-0
@@greenghost5009 It's Flexbone not Wing T. They've been dominant for a LONG time running it and running it better than anyone around.
@@greenghost5009 Nobody gives a shit about wherever you played back in the day.
@@jamesmedford2025 yeah we played a team that ran this same thing in the playoffs back in 2010 but our defense who I thought was the best in the nation and world at that time Shut it down from the beginning to end of the game and Everett golson our QB went off on them boas with that air raid O had back then
Parents kinda racist so classy is a stretch 🤔
Congratulations to the Flyers on a great season!
Congratulations to Cary Grove on a better season.
@@beeorganicrefs helped y’all.
@@tylerharris1163 It's the poor carpenter who blames his tools for poor craftsmanship.
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Check out the 17:00 mark refs called a false facemask penalty on ESL. If you watch the tackle, it was clean.
It wasn’t on the tackle. Otherwise it would have been a 15 yard penalty.
it was on the tackle it was a 5 yard penalty added on the run and instead of the ref calling 4th down which it should have been he said repeat 3rd down. wrong call. you assess the penalty which they did or it gets replayed from previous spot and repeat the down@@callofduty4nut
So was the phantom call on the kickoff return for a TD, so I guess the "bad calls" cancel themselves out.
There were ZERO penalties on that Kick Return.
None.
I have never seen that kind of milking of the last 12 minutes. We needed a stop bad and Pops on the last minute left. Shanklin wasn't ready, but that experience will get him ready for next year. I hear he is the next best thing to sliced bread.
Shanklin has good height and skills, just inexperienced. However, I expect Flyers will still be dominant Shanklin getting into the championship game is good for his confidence. Flyers will Probably reach state Shanklin's 3 years left at East St Louis.
Number 20 for the Penn State Looking Team is STACKED
It’s Cary grove not penn state
@@randomguy8638the uniforms is why
I also kept calling them the Penn State haha.
I would have like to have seen coach Walls and the sumner bull dogs play the East St Louis Flyers. Sumner ran a similar option type offensive scheme back in the 70s and 80s. However, though sumner had athletic explosive players on the entire team. Sumner would have given the flyers all kinds of head aches. They were putting up 60, 70 points every week. Wish bone with three backs in the back field who all could run 4.4 or 4.3 speed. Nightmare.
Cary-Grove 2-0 vs ESL 🤧
10:12 I literally have the picture he was in
Id love to get input from someone who saw the game about several plays which are difficult to accurately determine what happened.
Near the end of the first half was the east st. Louis WR out of bounds and thats why the final play of the half was from the previous spot?
Was CGs kick return for TD that was called back a penalty or an incorrect called penalty?
Was the spot on the CG 4th down conversion a favorable one for the or quite accurate?
Having watched the game, yes the play near the end of the first half was out of bounds. He didn’t look to get his second foot in on replays either, though it was close. The kickoff return that got called back was another correct call. For the fourth down play, initially it looked like they might have stopped him, but when they showed further replays he had the first down, even if the spot was a tad generous. To hear it from Flyers fans, the refs were all wearing white hoods and were clearly out to get them from the get go, but that’s sour milk and whining from a classless fanbase and forgetting to acknowledge another well played, classic game.
@@callofduty4nutI was show a picture of the guy inbounds on that pass
Showing Down and distance every play would be elite
And quarter/gameclock
Unfortunately, at this level the scoreboard operators often aren't given the time to accurately do this as there are fewer people monitoring this and passing along accurate information in a timely manner. It would be nice though, I agree.
Why were the east st.louis kids skipping around like this was a middle school game?
Hard work beats talent anyday!! One side has no Division 1 recruit’s and that side won
@@Principalsareamust2-0 against esl 🤧
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The triple option, almost impossible to stop, ask everyone in the playoffs, they found out, just like East St. Louis did. Same two teams will be there next year.
2016. 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023 East St Louis has been to the State Championships. Nothing to be upset about in the City of Champions,
I’m pretty sure Cary beat them 3 times.
3 wins 2 losses...@@christophermontanez580
@@terrancetaylor4335you’re lying Cary beat them 23-24 season Cary beat them 21-22 season
@@terrancetaylor4335so they beat y’all twice and played y’all twice 😅
I don;t lie...CG got the 2 that we lost by a total of 4 points in the 2 games37 to 36 and 23 to 20@@christophermontanez580
4:10 and so many more not called lol... East St Louis plays dirty lol
East St. Louis had way more talent, but Cary grove had some mean trick plays.
This is from Google so I don't know how accurate these numbers are? ..... East St. Louis, Illinois has a 2023 population of 17,748. East St. Louis is currently declining at a rate of -1.24% annually and its population has decreased by -3.66% since the most recent census, which recorded a population of 18,423 in 2020.
I am not making any accusations here!
But i was wondering if the East St. Louis Flyers program recruits players from surrounding towns (and the state of Missouri)? .... the size & talent they have each year is pretty consistent and impressive!
So i was curious if anyone knows where some of the players actually live? ..... I am assuming the Flyers follow all the IHSA rules. Do they get any transfers from other school districts? ..... Or are all the players on the Flyers really from East St. Louis, Illinois?
No they didn’t all come from East St. Louis, Illinois even though it would be impossibly to know where high school kids reside. Their most well known transfer was a couple years ago when the #1 WR in the country Luther Burden transferred from Cardinal Ritter in St. Louis, Missouri.
@Unknown-ih7pq thanks for the information! .... i am really amazed at the size of the Flyers each year! It was especially evident last year when they played PR in the class 6A championship game. East St. Louis wasn't quite as big this year.
I posed the question because it is mind-boggling to think that a town of 20,000 has that many big kids. There have to be some transfers just like Luther Burden.
And yes, I do remember Luther Burden! ...... every time he had the ball in his hands, he was a threat to score. I think he committed to the Missouri Tigers. I am going to look him up to see how he is doing.
I'm curious to know why you think it's ok to question my communities integrity. Secondly, and I googled this, why is there always not black refs when certain schools play certain schools. Thirdly, since we throwing accusations, why do certain looking teams run that style of offense. Is it lack of speed, intelligence, or talent. Are all the parents in Cary racists like the video showed or are the Cary teams just a bunch of battering rams with no skills. I'm so sick of you guys and yall underhanded wickedness.
@ericharris7484 Integrity of the community is not being questioned at all. I was just wondering if the players are all coming from East St. Louis itself? ..... the sheer size of the Flyers varsity 🏈 team each season is amazing! ..... I look at some of the Flyers team, and they look like college players 😳 ..... are these kids all coming from a town that has a population of less than 20,000 people? ..... I think that is a fair question!
@@Johnny-zt6fb9oj8q Also East St. Louis is actually 5A by enrollment but elect to play up to 6A but per their conference agreement or ultimatum whatever it is they can’t play up in 7A or 8A. Apparently their other conference members didn’t want to play them in the playoffs (7A and 8A) so they all came to this agreement.
So you're not going to show the final play??? What *ssinine highlights.
Nah you cooked again GSV
Bad coaching by E.Stlouis coach Darren sunkett.. Cary Grove runs the triple option same a s they did 2 years ago. Why would Sunkett use 3 down lineman against a triple option team. Stack the line with four or five lineman and make them beat you with their passing. E.St.louis has the speed to stop them one on one. He should have learned this 2 years ago but he returned to state doin the same dumb mistake.. The holes Cary Grove ran thru with only three down lineman was to easy. If coach sunkett don't correct this problem he'll continue to lose Championships to triple option teams.. Also he had a go running back in #5 he should have used the run game which did pretty good when the quarterback got hurt. Hats off to Cary Grove for exposing that weak front line for a championship.
I was in Texas visiting some friends of mine and one of my friends sons play for humble atascotia high school down there and they played East St. Louis the week that I was there and decided to go watch with her and her family and man ohh man did Atascotia absolutely destroy and kick the living shit out of ESL I mean the pummeled their asses and I was pretty shocked how bad they got whooped. I have a lot of respect for that program, but I tell you what Texas high school football doesn’t play around. Unless your schools like Mater Dei, St. John Bosco, IMG academy or St. Francis academy Baltimore when they had Biff Pogi as their coach good luck playing against their top schools because they don’t mess around..
Cary Grove owns East St Louis.
y’all won by 3 calm down
@@Jc1701_still a win
The triple option with a few variations.
East Side played half of the game with a freshman QB. Don’t be a jerk.
Acting like East St. Louis QB didn’t get injured, and had a freshman QB play for the rest of the half
Cary Grove, we want to see how you match up with bordering states top teams. ESL will play anyone, anywhere, anytime. Why can't you?
10 total teams in the Fox Valley conference, meaning Cary Grove has 9 conference games which is a full schedule.
ESL gets their asses handed to them on a national stage every time they attempt it so it really doesn’t matter how willing they are to travel. They own the small teams around them in central/southern IL and lose to similarly talented teams.
Cary Grove can't, they're in the fox valley which is a full regular season schedule. Though to be fair, Prairie Ridge is in that conference as well so it's not like they go through the season unchallenged. (In fact I believe it was prairie ridge or another school that gave Cary Grove their only season loss?
@@ethanbrown1711 PR beat them by one point after the kicker missed an XP that would have tied the game at the end. Huntley also beat them by one point. So that was their two losses. They do play a much tougher schedule than the ESL homers want to believe.
@@callofduty4nut that's right, sorry it's been a while since I've been in the fox valley area, moved for work to north shore and it's been hard keeping up with them. For reference as to how long ago that was, I left McHenry County when Woodstock was still in the FVC. And then PR had that back to back state championship and that was around when it became too hard to come visit family on those weekends. But yes, FVC is probably the most underrated conference in Illinois, and definitely doesn't get much respect
So goofy they play at Illlinois state no one wants to play there they all wanna play at memorial stadium just like those before them...
Refs helped out cg a few times and east side back up qb didn’t complete one pass 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Refs were terrible on that last drive!
That back up qb is a freshman can’t get mad at him
Why was he not ready? All the blowouts east side had this year. The freshman could have had lots of playing time. Not his fault. All on the coaching
You’ve got an excuse for everything don’t you? 🤣
@@pulsatingsausageboy2076call it what you want still is the truth 🤷🏾♂️
Score would have been 30-20 Cary Grove if the kick off wasn't called back.
East side had a couple very questionable call backs too. All in all Cart Grive did their thing
@@toreydshaun I thought calls were fair on both sides. Defending the triple option takes discipline. Players can be quick and athletic but if discipline is lacking, then this is not good. Flyers have beaten Prairie Ridge twice. However, Prairie Ridge does not seem to execute triple option to perfection like Cary Grove. Also, Cary Grove has better size. Triple option effectiveness is having a smart quarterback, big powerful fullback, fast elusive split back and a decent size strong offensive line averaging 260 lbs that blocks well. Cary Grove has all of the qualities listed above. Their coach is top notch too. I am surprised that Prairie Ridge defeated Cary Grove during the regular season. Perhaps, because of the similarities in style.
16:00 mark, I watched the game live. ESL stopped Cary on 4th and 1. Everybody knew it was a turnover on downs then the refs all of sudden gives them the first down. I’m telling you Illinois high school board needs to do an investigation. Refs helped Cary.
Did you watch the replay? ..... Logan Abrams (#46) initially seemed like he would be stopped short of the line to gain. But he surged ahead & clearly picked up the 1st down. His forward progress was never stopped!
Refs know they cheated bro that's crazy them spots also wild.
They cheated for ESTL half the time and Cary still won
@@RylanHerndon-yh7re cheated how?
@@kole3737 they moved the ball forward on the punt that landed at like the 12 all the way to the 20 and on the fourth down, they moved the ball backwards from the spot then brought the chains out
@RylanHerndon-yh7re none of that changed the game at all and didn't even matter if it happened and they really was correcting a mistake. Hell 5 times they moved the ball forward or gave a bad spot for yall. The. The face mask call that would have made yall punt was not a good call. It was a clean tackle literally. And cary was holding the whole game no calls. Come on now
There was no cheating
wing t offense takes no talent ban that formation
cary grove is 💩💩wing t offense i thought that was pop warner football
Let these catholic guys play a southern team from SC or NC non conference out of state
It’s a public school, not a Catholic school.
@@callofduty4nut don’t matter
@@greenghost5009 Then why make the comment? They’re not a private school. They can’t recruit. They don’t even do what ESL has done bringing in people from all over the metro and changing their address for a year or so like with Burden. They literally have to rebuild every year or two with local players and yet have four titles in the last 13 years. So really, I don’t get what your point is. We’re not down south. Heck, ESL has gotten killed in all their national games the past few years, so it’s just a completely pointless comment.
Cry
😂😂 this is why you lost because you don’t know who you play against. IGNORANT!!
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Great game some NFL refereeing going on for that last drive though 🤦🏽
lol, you know when butt hurt people say the refs won them game, they say it out of hate, but as a person who watched this game all the way through, the refs saved Cary grove in the fourth quarter. East saint Louis came out in the second half guns blazing. Even when they lost there D1 qb, they depended on the running game. They couldn’t be stopped. Until the fourth quarter when cart got the ball, the refs gave them a converted 4 and 1 when they were really stopped and East should have got the ball back. Then the refs called a false face mask penalty on East St. Louis and gave Cary a 4th and 1 when it should have been a 4th and 5. I can honestly say the better team lost the game. Refs really helped Cary In the 4th quarter.
1-they got the first down on the fourth down as shown by numerous replays and both commentators agreed. I’m not sure why people keep repeating this narrative when it was literally broadcast and replays showed he got it. 2. The face mask was a five yard face mask because it was off the ball, and once again replays showed it happen. 3. That’s two losses to CG in two attempts. For a supposed state powerhouse, I’m surprised you rely so much on officiating and can’t just blow everyone out like your fanbase believes they should. Maybe bring your own refs next year if that’s the issue so you don’t end up 0-3.
@@callofduty4nut bullshit, the refs moved the ball up, I watched the game dummy, refs helped,Cary grove in the fourth, not,to mention ESL played the second half with a freshman qb.
Don’t matter u guys 0-3 against Cary ahaha
Racially motivated
Refs were most def
Lmao, it’s always about race.
Fundamentals smash mouth football. That is what I like. Cary Grove has discipline. To defend the triple option, the defense must have mental smarts. Flyers are built around quick athletic players, sweep run plays, spread type offensive scheme. However, quick physical run scheme like a triple option can beat an athletic team most of the time. Cary Grove is physical and they run triple option better than Prairie ridge.
Refs move tht ball whn they brought out chains tht was forced by eside l2 review. They wasn't even going 2 measure..He was clearly stopped on 4th n 2
@@Bouttime He clearly wasn’t, based on the replay and the commentators even acknowledged that. Might have gotten a few more inches but he had the first down.
Refs kept the white boas in the game smh
I’ve seen that comment made from quite a few ESL fans both this year and two years ago. It’s interesting that the refs just decided to take a year off from ‘helping out the white boys’ last year against PR, huh? Weird, considering that’s another majority white school about 20 minutes from CG….but ESL beat them twice. It sure is strange that any time ESL actually loses its because of racist refs. How in the world did you all manage to get 11 titles going up against such insurmountable odds? It’s never possible for your team to actually get outplayed, is it? Just racist refs. Great outlook to have about life.
@@callofduty4nutI literally have a picture of a call they called out right before the half he was in with would have put us at the 5 yard line which means we could have scored or kicked a three and it could have went to ot🤷🏾♂️
They missed holding on like 90% of the plays for yall, zebras were ass the entire game
I wonna see Cary grove come down south and get smashed by one of our teams
Out played and coached again this year😂. The champions are in Cary Grove👊🏈🏆
I’m from the state of Texas where high school football is religious down there. I wish that I could go back in a time machine and organize a national championship game between East St. Louis vs Houston Yates in 1985. That game would’ve been the game of the decade during that era. Both of those teams that year were just unstoppable. The Flyers were crowned National Champions that year, but the Yates Lions from Houston probably would’ve had something to say about that.
Don’t forget that 1985 Flyers team went undefeated 3 years straight and won 44 games in a row. It would’ve been a heck of a matchup though.