I agree. I used to be a staunch Remo guy and my buddy ALWAYS tried to get me to switch to Evans, but I was stuck in my ways. I finally made the switch 3 years ago and I haven't looked back!!!
When I was apartment living many years ago, these heads from Remo, Moongel or D'Addario were not available. I had to do my quiet practice on a wood set with gum rubber by Ralph C. Pace. I also used to use an elastic cymbal muffle on my left and right side rides. Today we got something for any situation. Although I wouldn't use steel hats or cymbals for anything.
When you look at the Remo versions that are JUST mesh, they move no air in the shell. If no air is being moved, the reso head isn't resonating and you get no tone. Early adopters of "silent kits" were learning that putting some tape on the heads was allowing the reso head to resonate and thus produce some tone. Then folks started experimenting with different types of mesh heads from electric kits and were finding that 2 or 3 ply heads could produce tone. I had went with a very thick and tighter woven mesh head from GoEdrum in conjunction with the low volume Zildjian cymbals (14" hats, 16+18" crashes, 20" ride, 18" china). Part of the things that make these Evans heads sound as good as they do is the patch and the foam pushing air and allowing the reso head to produce tone! I'll definitely be picking some of these up to compare and most likely mix and match the best sounding for each head and cymbal.
You playing actually sounds crazy good on these (no surprise)! That opening improv with the constant stream of ghost notes was groovy as hell. Is it weird that I can almost hear these being used as a distinct 'sound' instread of just a quiet alternative to normal cymbals and heads?
Wow, thank you for the very thorough demo of these products. Lv your vibe when you talk. The word “sincere” just keeps popping into my mind when I am listening to you talk. Also you either demonstrated the exact questions I had as they were popping into my head or answered questions I had not thought about yet. I stayed focused on your content and not your delivery because I felt safe and felt you reaching out to the community to help us practice better. Bravo! Your success is well deserved because you care.
Right on!!! I bet when you two get together you have a lot of fun. You both are very talented cats, and also explain things very well to us. I feel blessed to have come across both of your channels. Keep up the great work.
Super cool. The market for these must be booming for Evans to put out this set. Ive heard of guys using the cymbals for real small jazz cafe type gigs. Also bet after covid, tons of people got into music, and we're the only ones with out a volume knob. Until now!! Boom. Thanks Rob. Keep it cool man.
I'm a church drummer and we are really trying to reduce the drum volume. We've been looking for solutions everywhere and these seem pretty promising. I'm assuming the reduced volume would mean we could actually EQ them and mix them into our space. Which would be especially helpful since we also stream each service. My only real concern is the snare since I tend to do a lot of edge of the head shots for certain songs. What are your thoughts on that? Or, would there be a way to use a traditional snare head but muffle it to get a similar volume? Great review, thanks!
I just got these. Really cool so far. A few issues I've had personally with setup: The hihats are much shallower than my other stuff. I have a DW 3000 hihat stand and a Tama touch drop clutch. I had to put a thicker foam under the bottom hihat because the bottom of Tama's quick release mechanism was hitting the top of the plastic cymbal protector piece on the stem, preventing me from being able to fully close them. Also, if you have a ported bass drum reso head, you're probably going to want to change that out too because with it on, you get a pretty dead sounding bass. Tuning is a little finicky. You have to get the tom reso heads really in sync with the batters or you won't get anything from them. The floor tom is proving hardest to get right, but I also have a cheap $400 Ludwig kit. Overall, this set is really impressive. But there needs to be more tuning guidance than just a one sided pamphlet for people who are newer to drumming. Just be warned, this isn't something you're going to slap together if you decide you just want to play for a half hour at 1 in the morning. If you're GOOD, you can probably get it all changed out in a half hour.
Bro thanks so much for bringing these videos out time and time again, got into KZ IEMs because of you and no doubt products you bring to the channel in the future are gonna help big time. Big Love from Sydney, Australia 👊🏼❤️🎵
I currently bought Remo silent stroke and with an added piece of tape they work and sound good. I'd like to try the Evans snare and bass drum head when they come to Canada in 2024.
I just ordered a set of heads and can't wait for them to arrive. I live in an apartment and hope this will allow for more practice time. Thanks for the demo
Just a quick FYI. I have a DIY eKit with Pintech RS-5 triggers with their trigger traps, and then these cymbals, with rack-mounted medium Condenser mics setup underneath the right and left-hand groups of cymbals. IE one mic between the hats and crash, and the other mic between the ride and crash. After a bit of EQ, slight compression to cut the over-tone push a bit, and volume balancing between my Drum module output and the over(in this case under)heads on my Mixer, The kit sounds amazing!
Don't get me wrong bruh... I love evans heads, they are currently on my entire GIGANTIC set of drums!! About a year before my dear friend AJ Pero ( Twisted Sister/Adrenaline Mob ) passed away, he said... "B-man... you're still playing those Aquarian heads...!!????!!" I replied, "why hell yeah Ant, no more endorsements for me... so, I am still playing the last of my Aquarian's!!" AJ said ... "Dude, Evans, which is really D'Addario now, has entire new line of heads... soup to nuts, I'll send ya a crapload of them, tell me what you think!!" He did, and that was the..... last time I heard his voice.... 😧 .... !!! We did text while he was out on tour with A.M., but..... well, it's not the same!!! Sooooooo, I am a believer of Evans and D'Addario & Pro Mark hickory, perhaps I'll be able to eventually afford that setup... BUT BROTHA... WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS........ 🤔 WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE PUMAS....😳😲?!!? THEY ARE SOOOOOO LIT!!!! I GOTTA GET THOSE FIRST!!!!! 😆😜🤭🤫 ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER DRUMMER!!!!!!!!!! PEACE!!!!!!!!!!🤘🏼
Bought the cymbals... Love em. Bought the snare head... Love it. Cheaped out on the kick and toms to save money and got Tama silent mesh.... Hate em. 😅 About to complete the set with all Evans DB's. Absolutely brilliant. 👍👍👍
I used the same method in 2003 in making my Shelter CD. Used the mesh heads with D-Drum triggers into a MIDI sample pack. Then overhead mics for the live cymbals. It worked great. The cymbals are a new twist.
is 80% enough for a wide-open living room that is 6x4 meters and 3.5 to the ceiling... what can I do in a living room? is the only place I got... any advice on how I can do my best to not disturb neighbours!? thanks
Ok, I am not a drummer (I did play snare in 4th grade) 😄 however, I just bought a Gretsch drum set for recording. Are these "quite cymbals" for recording purposes or just for practice? TY Subscribed!
It's amazing how many of these garage rock drummers are on You Tube. Equally amazing is the fact that they all sound virtually the same. Note: this one is a bit different as for being a bit quieter.
Great review as always!! I'll be real- when I saw what looked like another quiet head and cymbal pack I didn't think it would be anything special, but oh man was I wrong, this is so cool!! The heads seem like they combine a standard mesh head like the Evans SoundOff with the RTom Black Hole pads and EMAD tech (though not removable) to get the ultimate combination of awesome features on one set of quiet drumheads. The snare head is really cool as well, I don't like how many quiet heads take away the body of the snare and response from the wires so this one actually gives us that snare sound. The only question I have for you is how you'd compare these to the Evans SoundOff drumheads in terms of sound and feel. And as a big fan of thinner cymbals, seeing a cool set of really thin quiet cymbals with good stick definition is really nice. The studio I teach at has a set of L80 cymbals which do the job but feel a bit too heavy for my liking, especially compared to my usual thinner AAX crashes. I was looking into buying the Sabian Quiet Tone cymbals which I know are thinner but I may have to give these a try first.
Thanks for the review. I have the Evans "sound off" currently on a practice kit and am very happy with them. Had just seen the cymbals come out and they sound good as well. I have the Zildjian L80's, but only hats and a crash/ride. These dB ones sound as good or better than the L80's (in headphones, anyway).
Got the db zero yesterday and I love it so far. It doesn't have the snare sound but it works for my apt. I can still do sticking excercises and not worry about my neighbors. I do plan add a trigger to it soon. I'm really curious about adding triggers to the cymbals as well. Making real feal e kit
Great review 🤩 I am a drum instructor at the School Of Rock and I wonder if these drum heads can handle a lot of the hard hitting from beginner to intermediate drummers?? I have about 10-14 students of all ages in a weekly basis…. Durability compared to standard drum head?? Either way it was a great presentation thank you for sharing new products it was very informal and educational, thank you again and I look forward to more awesome DRUM videos!
Rob great review. You sold me on the rtoms. Like them because you can keep the mylar heads on . Only issue i dont like is the rims on the Rtom is a bit high. So which do you prefer now, the RTOM or the evans db1s?
Considering you are set up to record your drums go ahead and record the low volume set. And then import them into something likeSD3 tracker or equivalent. No triggers needed for tracking at least. You will probably have to add cymbal chokes but it dose a great job on the high hats etc. going to order some of those. Nice review. Thanks
I really love the cymbals! They seem to be the ideal practice cymbal. I currently have some Zildjian L80s, and my only problem with them is their rough texture, which tends to chew up the tips of my sticks. These dB1 cymbals seem to be more finished where the holes are punched, with smooth edges. The sound is musical (many low volume cymbals are way too bright sounding for my taste). I also love the sound of the heads, although I think I'll stick with my Rtom Black Hole pads, since they go right on top of the existing rims and heads. If I had the luxury of having a second kit for quiet practice, I'd opt for the dB1 heads (especially the snare). Excellent review!
Really cool product, thanks for the video. Would be cool to have a side by side comparison with same gear and mics gains (and room mic aswell) to really compare difference in volume. Maybe also with a db meter? 😜
Its really interesting to me, especially when you dont have a room where you bother your neighbours and other people. Plus it sounds really good and it seems that you have the same feel like with normal heads (rebound, ghost notes etc.) But how often do you have to change the heads? Is the durabilty like on the regular ones? Thanks for the video.
I love it when I show up to a small room or jazz gig and hear: "Can you play brushes all night?" Me: Yes, if the music calls for it. Can you play on just the white keys all night and not use the sustain pedal? Or the other one when I showed up for a reunion gig about 10 years ago. I hadn't even set down my bags and got: "What's the smallest kit you can play tonight?" I said, "The one I brought." Don't be asking your drummer to down size a 4 or 5 piece kit when one less tom will not change anything on the drum foot print on a stage. Move the trumpet player off the stage to the side. Or! and you going to love this...."can you move back a little?" Wait a second, I have several stands and drums on a rug to move and you want 8" more space? You think you could move your amp a little to the left and step over a bit instead? One thing you have to move, but you want your drummer to move all his stuff. ?! You're welcome.
@@Calz70 they are a little springy but less so than the Remo mesh heads that I had before. I think the tone is way better as well. I also prefer the cymbals to my low volume Zildjians and the set came with TWO crashes, which was nice, and also a cymbal bag.
Wow!, Thanks for reviewing (and playing these), Rob. Like yourself I love them hi-hats, I'd be keen to track a set of these down, not sure if they'd be easy to get for someone in New Zealand.
Thanks for this review Rob. It would have been nice to hear a backbeat with rim - that's where the usual volume and timbre comes from. I was hoping to record using these heads, but no go - just a 'quiet' practising aid...
Great preview! I have a very specific question about the sound of the cymbals compared to the low volume zildians, where the attack sound of the stick is so loud that the cymbal sound is lost in the mix. Are the Evans cymbals better balanced; do they have a more musical sound than the L80’s?
Great video! These look very promising. I just moved back into a townhouse from a regular house and I’m still learning kit. I have the Evans Soundoff mesh heads and they work well. I’m now thinking about getting these new heads and using the Soundoffs as resonate heads. Those cymbals sound really nice too. How loud would you say they are compared to standard cymbals?
VERY nice, ESPECIALLY the playing!!!!! I can see (hear) a few real applications for these; (1) practice kit at home, (2) warm up kit at church and (3) performance (miced possibly) in smaller venues. The cymbals sound especially nice in my opinion!
Great videos Rob, been working on some of your beginner exercises. I've been attempting to learn on an old Yamaha DTX and not a big fan of the feel. Wondering if this is a better alternative for my acoustic kit. Since nobody let's me play the acoustic due to the volume.
I love the heads except for the snare head. I'm not a heavy player, yet after about a month of daily use, the snare head had strands of the mylar break-away and dangle inside the drum. Sweetwater replaced it. There's no way to turn off the snare if you want to. As an experiment, I put the 14" tom head (ordered separately) on my snare drum, and it sounds incredible! It's super loud coming through the EAD 10, but that can be adjusted. It's way better than the dB One snare head. The Remo 14" Silent Stroke is better on the snare than the Evans dB One snare head.
I got a regular Evans SoundOff black mesh for my snare, no muffling felt or patch. It also sounds fantastic. I guess it’s the same as the Remo, just black to match the dB1 tom heads. I may add a bass drum patch from any music store for some “power dot” effect, but I’m getting great snare response with plain mesh.
I tried these in person. Two things I found were a bit off was the bass drum and the hi hats. The bass was so weak, I couldn't really see a difference with my floor tom. The hi hat I found to be way too harsh sounding. Playing them open also is probably way louder than the rest of the kit. I would avoid playing songs that heavily feature quarter or eigth notes open hi hats. Though mixing closed and open hi hats sounds decent The toms were perfect, the crash and ride were pretty good. The snare was alright, not enough snare sound.
These look great. I've only been playing a year and by six months, I started getting some ear ringing off and on. This is despite using Shure SE215s and the VF SIH1, so I guess I'm unlucky. But if I can mitigate that, and play through a wider part of the day without annoying or waking up the family, this looks great.
Im an evans gouy for a few years now and I love the idea. I don’t need them but if I would buy them. Would the cymbals come in differrent sizes too? I play 20/24/15 Zildjian K Con Proto’s as a main set.
Hi, thanks so much for always providing such good content for us drummers to review, was wondering in your honest opinion how is this compared to the RTOM?
Great review, this video definitely helped me rule out some other brands I was looking into. I am always partial towards Evans since I use them on my current drum set.
I've waited for this video for quite a long time. I saw the dB heads on their website and I was thinking of getting those heads to add on to my kit with some low volume cymbals. But, I have a question. Does the snare head allow you to still use your snare wires on the snare drum or you just have to remove it and use the drum head like that?
The Evans bottom hi hat is a lot different here, and the drilled section of all cymbals appears to come out closer to the edge on than the Arborea. If (again, a big "if") Evans took an Arborea set, slightly softened the brightness with the additional holes, and improved the hi hats, it's worth the additional cost.
Those cymbals and the hats stand up in their own right, kind of sounded like an electro jazz fx set... I'm really going to have to look into these as 90% of the time I'm playing an acoustic kit at home with mutes on which can get pretty frustrating. Thanks, Beatdown, for giving me yet more stuff to spend money on 😂😂
Thank you for the musical demonstration. They do sound almost recordable, and I can imagine that kinetic device on the bottom of the head is making it less bouncy hopefully. It all sounds good, but you also played them well, so they can’t have all the credit. I was wondering if you could order specific sizes though? Or is it just a standard set up as if everybody played the same sizes, which they don’t. Thanks man.
hey rob, put a couple of rivets through the holes on bottom of hat and check it out. i put them on mine and great auxillary hat. Can you do a video on it
Hey Rob - another great video. Question for you - would these work in a small church setting? Mic it up like a regular kit without the extra stage noise? Do they put out enough volume for that or would the wedges completely overpower them? Thanks man.
Personal preferences aside, I have to say Evans' R&D is outstanding.
I agree. I used to be a staunch Remo guy and my buddy ALWAYS tried to get me to switch to Evans, but I was stuck in my ways. I finally made the switch 3 years ago and I haven't looked back!!!
When I was apartment living many years ago, these heads from Remo, Moongel or D'Addario were not available. I had to do my quiet practice on a wood set with gum rubber by Ralph C. Pace. I also used to use an elastic cymbal muffle on my left and right side rides. Today we got something for any situation. Although I wouldn't use steel hats or cymbals for anything.
absolutely LOVE the fact that you demo'ed them miced up, rather than with triggered samples
When you look at the Remo versions that are JUST mesh, they move no air in the shell. If no air is being moved, the reso head isn't resonating and you get no tone. Early adopters of "silent kits" were learning that putting some tape on the heads was allowing the reso head to resonate and thus produce some tone. Then folks started experimenting with different types of mesh heads from electric kits and were finding that 2 or 3 ply heads could produce tone. I had went with a very thick and tighter woven mesh head from GoEdrum in conjunction with the low volume Zildjian cymbals (14" hats, 16+18" crashes, 20" ride, 18" china). Part of the things that make these Evans heads sound as good as they do is the patch and the foam pushing air and allowing the reso head to produce tone!
I'll definitely be picking some of these up to compare and most likely mix and match the best sounding for each head and cymbal.
Love the comments from the drummers not wanting to annoy their neighbors. Truly believable_4_ reals. 🤘
You playing actually sounds crazy good on these (no surprise)! That opening improv with the constant stream of ghost notes was groovy as hell.
Is it weird that I can almost hear these being used as a distinct 'sound' instread of just a quiet alternative to normal cymbals and heads?
There's plenty of room for experimentation with these for sure.
Wow, thank you for the very thorough demo of these products. Lv your vibe when you talk. The word “sincere” just keeps popping into my mind when I am listening to you talk. Also you either demonstrated the exact questions I had as they were popping into my head or answered questions I had not thought about yet.
I stayed focused on your content and not your delivery because I felt safe and felt you reaching out to the community to help us practice better.
Bravo! Your success is well deserved because you care.
Due to your input, my new dB1s arrived today! Looking forward to checking them out! Thanks so much!
Right on!!! I bet when you two get together you have a lot of fun. You both are very talented cats, and also explain things very well to us.
I feel blessed to have come across both of your channels. Keep up the great work.
The heads and cymbals sound great. It would be great to hear the heads a/b'ed against the new RTOM low volume heads.
Super cool. The market for these must be booming for Evans to put out this set. Ive heard of guys using the cymbals for real small jazz cafe type gigs. Also bet after covid, tons of people got into music, and we're the only ones with out a volume knob. Until now!! Boom. Thanks Rob. Keep it cool man.
Amazing playing my goodness
I'm a church drummer and we are really trying to reduce the drum volume. We've been looking for solutions everywhere and these seem pretty promising. I'm assuming the reduced volume would mean we could actually EQ them and mix them into our space. Which would be especially helpful since we also stream each service. My only real concern is the snare since I tend to do a lot of edge of the head shots for certain songs. What are your thoughts on that? Or, would there be a way to use a traditional snare head but muffle it to get a similar volume? Great review, thanks!
I just got these. Really cool so far. A few issues I've had personally with setup: The hihats are much shallower than my other stuff. I have a DW 3000 hihat stand and a Tama touch drop clutch. I had to put a thicker foam under the bottom hihat because the bottom of Tama's quick release mechanism was hitting the top of the plastic cymbal protector piece on the stem, preventing me from being able to fully close them. Also, if you have a ported bass drum reso head, you're probably going to want to change that out too because with it on, you get a pretty dead sounding bass. Tuning is a little finicky. You have to get the tom reso heads really in sync with the batters or you won't get anything from them. The floor tom is proving hardest to get right, but I also have a cheap $400 Ludwig kit. Overall, this set is really impressive. But there needs to be more tuning guidance than just a one sided pamphlet for people who are newer to drumming. Just be warned, this isn't something you're going to slap together if you decide you just want to play for a half hour at 1 in the morning. If you're GOOD, you can probably get it all changed out in a half hour.
Perfect timing brother. I play an E-Kit and don’t like the feel of the cymbals. I have been looking for low volume gear.
Bro thanks so much for bringing these videos out time and time again, got into KZ IEMs because of you and no doubt products you bring to the channel in the future are gonna help big time. Big Love from Sydney, Australia 👊🏼❤️🎵
Great stuff here, man!! Evans bringing the FIRE for us drummers not wanting to annoy the neighbors! 😎
I currently bought Remo silent stroke and with an added piece of tape they work and sound good. I'd like to try the Evans snare and bass drum head when they come to Canada in 2024.
I just ordered a set of heads and can't wait for them to arrive. I live in an apartment and hope this will allow for more practice time. Thanks for the demo
Did these help? Or still too loud?
Just a quick FYI. I have a DIY eKit with Pintech RS-5 triggers with their trigger traps, and then these cymbals, with rack-mounted medium Condenser mics setup underneath the right and left-hand groups of cymbals. IE one mic between the hats and crash, and the other mic between the ride and crash. After a bit of EQ, slight compression to cut the over-tone push a bit, and volume balancing between my Drum module output and the over(in this case under)heads on my Mixer, The kit sounds amazing!
Don't get me wrong bruh... I love evans heads, they are currently on my entire GIGANTIC set of drums!! About a year before my dear friend AJ Pero ( Twisted Sister/Adrenaline Mob ) passed away, he said... "B-man... you're still playing those Aquarian heads...!!????!!" I replied, "why hell yeah Ant, no more endorsements for me... so, I am still playing the last of my Aquarian's!!" AJ said ... "Dude, Evans, which is really D'Addario now, has entire new line of heads... soup to nuts, I'll send ya a crapload of them, tell me what you think!!" He did, and that was the..... last time I heard his voice.... 😧 .... !!! We did text while he was out on tour with A.M., but..... well, it's not the same!!!
Sooooooo, I am a believer of Evans and D'Addario & Pro Mark hickory, perhaps I'll be able to eventually afford that setup... BUT BROTHA... WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS........ 🤔 WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE PUMAS....😳😲?!!? THEY ARE SOOOOOO LIT!!!! I GOTTA GET THOSE FIRST!!!!! 😆😜🤭🤫
ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER DRUMMER!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE!!!!!!!!!!🤘🏼
Yep was nodding all alone for the less hole engineering on the hi-hat. Well thought out.
Nice ,nice!! I love the sound of the cymbals, so crisp and clean, but low! I dig it also! Would try em myself! Great job, Thanks for sharing!
Bought the cymbals... Love em. Bought the snare head... Love it. Cheaped out on the kick and toms to save money and got Tama silent mesh.... Hate em. 😅
About to complete the set with all Evans DB's. Absolutely brilliant. 👍👍👍
Came for the heads, stayed for the play.
I used the same method in 2003 in making my Shelter CD. Used the mesh heads with D-Drum triggers into a MIDI sample pack. Then overhead mics for the live cymbals. It worked great. The cymbals are a new twist.
@William Perri No it was on the "Shelter CD by myself Shawn Cole. iTunes ETC
430$ for the set is not outrageous. They sound nice
It's pretty reasonable for everything you're getting in the package.
I'd use these cymbals on my jazz set
Man these are sweet. I just wish they made the kick drum in 16" as well. Great review!
is 80% enough for a wide-open living room that is 6x4 meters and 3.5 to the ceiling... what can I do in a living room? is the only place I got... any advice on how I can do my best to not disturb neighbours!?
thanks
Very cool. Thanks. I’m new to drums and I live in an apartment. It’s nice to see other options to electric, though it’s pricey.
Could you put a 14” DB one tom head on the snare, and just use your regular snare wires?
Ok, I am not a drummer (I did play snare in 4th grade) 😄 however, I just bought a Gretsch drum set for recording. Are these "quite cymbals" for recording purposes or just for practice? TY Subscribed!
They’re usually used for practice
That sound is flabbergasting impressive
It's amazing how many of these garage rock drummers are on You Tube. Equally amazing is the fact that they all sound virtually the same.
Note: this one is a bit different as for being a bit quieter.
Great review as always!! I'll be real- when I saw what looked like another quiet head and cymbal pack I didn't think it would be anything special, but oh man was I wrong, this is so cool!! The heads seem like they combine a standard mesh head like the Evans SoundOff with the RTom Black Hole pads and EMAD tech (though not removable) to get the ultimate combination of awesome features on one set of quiet drumheads. The snare head is really cool as well, I don't like how many quiet heads take away the body of the snare and response from the wires so this one actually gives us that snare sound. The only question I have for you is how you'd compare these to the Evans SoundOff drumheads in terms of sound and feel.
And as a big fan of thinner cymbals, seeing a cool set of really thin quiet cymbals with good stick definition is really nice. The studio I teach at has a set of L80 cymbals which do the job but feel a bit too heavy for my liking, especially compared to my usual thinner AAX crashes. I was looking into buying the Sabian Quiet Tone cymbals which I know are thinner but I may have to give these a try first.
Thanks for the review. I have the Evans "sound off" currently on a practice kit and am very happy with them. Had just seen the cymbals come out and they sound good as well. I have the Zildjian L80's, but only hats and a crash/ride. These dB ones sound as good or better than the L80's (in headphones, anyway).
Came to hear the db one drumheads, stayed for the playing. Amazing playing man.
OK, I’m impressed. That’s the best solution that I have seen/heard for this goal. Will check it out. Thanks.
These sound so good! This might be the answer (along with a Yamaha EAD10) for my church.
Got the db zero yesterday and I love it so far. It doesn't have the snare sound but it works for my apt. I can still do sticking excercises and not worry about my neighbors.
I do plan add a trigger to it soon.
I'm really curious about adding triggers to the cymbals as well. Making real feal e kit
I use rtom blackholes on my kit. Works for me. Just pop them off when noise is required.
Great review 🤩
I am a drum instructor at the School Of Rock and I wonder if these drum heads can handle a lot of the hard hitting from beginner to intermediate drummers?? I have about 10-14 students of all ages in a weekly basis….
Durability compared to standard drum head??
Either way it was a great presentation thank you for sharing new products it was very informal and educational, thank you again and I look forward to more awesome DRUM videos!
Thanks for all the tips and help to improve my drumer skills sir.
Rob great review. You sold me on the rtoms. Like them because you can keep the mylar heads on . Only issue i dont like is the rims on the Rtom is a bit high.
So which do you prefer now, the RTOM or the evans db1s?
Considering you are set up to record your drums go ahead and record the low volume set. And then import them into something likeSD3 tracker or equivalent. No triggers needed for tracking at least. You will probably have to add cymbal chokes but it dose a great job on the high hats etc. going to order some of those. Nice review. Thanks
I really love the cymbals! They seem to be the ideal practice cymbal. I currently have some Zildjian L80s, and my only problem with them is their rough texture, which tends to chew up the tips of my sticks. These dB1 cymbals seem to be more finished where the holes are punched, with smooth edges. The sound is musical (many low volume cymbals are way too bright sounding for my taste). I also love the sound of the heads, although I think I'll stick with my Rtom Black Hole pads, since they go right on top of the existing rims and heads. If I had the luxury of having a second kit for quiet practice, I'd opt for the dB1 heads (especially the snare). Excellent review!
Same exact issue with my L80s. My eyes bugged out when Rob was hitting the ride bell too, I'd love to have that clarity from my 20in L80.
Really cool product, thanks for the video. Would be cool to have a side by side comparison with same gear and mics gains (and room mic aswell) to really compare difference in volume. Maybe also with a db meter? 😜
Its really interesting to me, especially when you dont have a room where you bother your neighbours and other people. Plus it sounds really good and it seems that you have the same feel like with normal heads (rebound, ghost notes etc.) But how often do you have to change the heads? Is the durabilty like on the regular ones?
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the detailed review sir! You've been consistent for a long time; I admire that.
Just bought them. I agree 100%. Great stuff. Just doubled my practice time.
These heads sound great! Love your playing too... especially a bit of crazy army on snare... awesome!
I'm running the 14" floor tom head on my snare and use the wires. I think it sounds more realistic.
I love it when I show up to a small room or jazz gig and hear: "Can you play brushes all night?"
Me: Yes, if the music calls for it. Can you play on just the white keys all night and not use the sustain pedal?
Or the other one when I showed up for a reunion gig about 10 years ago. I hadn't even set down my bags and got: "What's the smallest kit you can play tonight?" I said, "The one I brought."
Don't be asking your drummer to down size a 4 or 5 piece kit when one less tom will not change anything on the drum foot print on a stage. Move the trumpet player off the stage to the side. Or! and you going to love this...."can you move back a little?" Wait a second, I have several stands and drums on a rug to move and you want 8" more space? You think you could move your amp a little to the left and step over a bit instead? One thing you have to move, but you want your drummer to move all his stuff. ?!
You're welcome.
Lmfao.......it's not just me then!😂
Glad I came across this. Just ordered the dB1 cymbal set from SW.
Very cool for practice..I would like to see them mic'd for a small venue scenario-
I bought a set of these after seeing this demo and I love them! Really nice.
@@Calz70 they are a little springy but less so than the Remo mesh heads that I had before. I think the tone is way better as well. I also prefer the cymbals to my low volume Zildjians and the set came with TWO crashes, which was nice, and also a cymbal bag.
The hihat foot splash is my favorite technique that I think is under-utilized
Wow!,
Thanks for reviewing (and playing these), Rob.
Like yourself I love them hi-hats, I'd be keen to track a set of these down, not sure if they'd be easy to get for someone in New Zealand.
Your playing never fails to impress.
Thanks Rob! Just purchased last week , but haven’t set up yet……sound great!!!
Very nice Rob. They sound nice and you were able to mic them.
Awesome! Drummers please use these all the time. ;)
Thanks for this review Rob. It would have been nice to hear a backbeat with rim - that's where the usual volume and timbre comes from. I was hoping to record using these heads, but no go - just a 'quiet' practising aid...
That second Tom had a nice boing sound to it with those heads.
Great preview! I have a very specific question about the sound of the cymbals compared to the low volume zildians, where the attack sound of the stick is so loud that the cymbal sound is lost in the mix. Are the Evans cymbals better balanced; do they have a more musical sound than the L80’s?
Great video! These look very promising. I just moved back into a townhouse from a regular house and I’m still learning kit. I have the Evans Soundoff mesh heads and they work well. I’m now thinking about getting these new heads and using the Soundoffs as resonate heads. Those cymbals sound really nice too. How loud would you say they are compared to standard cymbals?
VERY nice, ESPECIALLY the playing!!!!! I can see (hear) a few real applications for these; (1) practice kit at home, (2) warm up kit at church and (3) performance (miced possibly) in smaller venues. The cymbals sound especially nice in my opinion!
What kind of reso heads do you recommend using with Evans dB One?
Very cool. I was looking at the dw pad set but this looks much better for me
Great videos Rob, been working on some of your beginner exercises. I've been attempting to learn on an old Yamaha DTX and not a big fan of the feel. Wondering if this is a better alternative for my acoustic kit. Since nobody let's me play the acoustic due to the volume.
Ordered mine today, heads and cymbals!!
I love the heads except for the snare head. I'm not a heavy player, yet after about a month of daily use, the snare head had strands of the mylar break-away and dangle inside the drum. Sweetwater replaced it. There's no way to turn off the snare if you want to. As an experiment, I put the 14" tom head (ordered separately) on my snare drum, and it sounds incredible! It's super loud coming through the EAD 10, but that can be adjusted. It's way better than the dB One snare head. The Remo 14" Silent Stroke is better on the snare than the Evans dB One snare head.
I got a regular Evans SoundOff black mesh for my snare, no muffling felt or patch. It also sounds fantastic. I guess it’s the same as the Remo, just black to match the dB1 tom heads.
I may add a bass drum patch from any music store for some “power dot” effect, but I’m getting great snare response with plain mesh.
I tried these in person. Two things I found were a bit off was the bass drum and the hi hats. The bass was so weak, I couldn't really see a difference with my floor tom. The hi hat I found to be way too harsh sounding. Playing them open also is probably way louder than the rest of the kit. I would avoid playing songs that heavily feature quarter or eigth notes open hi hats. Though mixing closed and open hi hats sounds decent
The toms were perfect, the crash and ride were pretty good. The snare was alright, not enough snare sound.
These look great. I've only been playing a year and by six months, I started getting some ear ringing off and on. This is despite using Shure SE215s and the VF SIH1, so I guess I'm unlucky. But if I can mitigate that, and play through a wider part of the day without annoying or waking up the family, this looks great.
Im an evans gouy for a few years now and I love the idea.
I don’t need them but if I would buy them.
Would the cymbals come in differrent sizes too?
I play 20/24/15 Zildjian K Con Proto’s as a main set.
Nice tip of the hat to Steve Gadd. Smooth.
That snare head tech is some pretty crazy (army) stuff! 😄 Great review, Rob. Excited to try these!
Such an amazing player! One of my favorite TH-cam drummers/content creators.
Evans ingenuity with drum head design is really a cut above the rest 👌
I presume you could use gen16 pickups with the evans cymbals?
Thanks for making this Rob! ive been waiting to hear them and see a review before making the purchase and i think it will be a good addition!
Outstanding vid. Covered all the bases.
Hi, thanks so much for always providing such good content for us drummers to review, was wondering in your honest opinion how is this compared to the RTOM?
Rob i always enjoy the topics and products you showcase, great job my friend.
Great review, this video definitely helped me rule out some other brands I was looking into. I am always partial towards Evans since I use them on my current drum set.
I've waited for this video for quite a long time. I saw the dB heads on their website and I was thinking of getting those heads to add on to my kit with some low volume cymbals. But, I have a question. Does the snare head allow you to still use your snare wires on the snare drum or you just have to remove it and use the drum head like that?
They recommend you rock it snares off. But your call.
Just have to turn your snares off. Don’t have to actually remove them.
I wonder who makes them for Evans, because they really look the Arborea mute cymbals.
The Evans bottom hi hat is a lot different here, and the drilled section of all cymbals appears to come out closer to the edge on than the Arborea.
If (again, a big "if") Evans took an Arborea set, slightly softened the brightness with the additional holes, and improved the hi hats, it's worth the additional cost.
Those cymbals and the hats stand up in their own right, kind of sounded like an electro jazz fx set...
I'm really going to have to look into these as 90% of the time I'm playing an acoustic kit at home with mutes on which can get pretty frustrating. Thanks, Beatdown, for giving me yet more stuff to spend money on 😂😂
Haha. Sorry 🤷🏾♂️ I feel your pain, tho 😑
Thanks, Rob for a great review! These are pretty cool! I may be looking at some of these for my home studio. You rock!
Maaan I'm calling my sweetwater rep this week. 😮😮😮😮
Perfect for places where playing drums at a lower volume is good. I like that very much. Cheers, Rob! 👍👍✌️🥁
Nice Seve Gadd stuff done there on the snare I notice, .....muy bueno!!!!
NICE groovin in the beginning!!
Have you thought about putting the close tom mics on the resonant side? Obviously not a recording kit but would be interesting to hear.
Thank you for the musical demonstration. They do sound almost recordable, and I can imagine that kinetic device on the bottom of the head is making it less bouncy hopefully. It all sounds good, but you also played them well, so they can’t have all the credit. I was wondering if you could order specific sizes though? Or is it just a standard set up as if everybody played the same sizes, which they don’t. Thanks man.
What effect does it have rubbing on the sound edge ? its mesh all the way out to hoop correct?
hey rob, put a couple of rivets through the holes on bottom of hat and check it out. i put them on mine and great auxillary hat. Can you do a video on it
Hey Rob - another great video. Question for you - would these work in a small church setting? Mic it up like a regular kit without the extra stage noise? Do they put out enough volume for that or would the wedges completely overpower them? Thanks man.
wedge overpower
Love that bright Ride sound/tone !
Enjoyed your opening solo.