COLÉOPTÈRE: This Strange Looking VTOL Was Too Dangerous... SO I BUILT ONE!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- Welcome to another episode of Trailmakers! Today I am recreating the SNECMA C.450 Coléoptère. This was a French VTOL Tail Sitter that failed to successfully transition from vertical to horizontal flight. It was extremely hard to control during vertical take-off and landing and ended in catastrophe on its 9th and final flight. The pilot lost control and accidentally went horizontal too close to the ground and had to eject, destroying the plane and injuring himself. The Coléoptère was never rebuilt, until now.
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I think it would be fascinating to see you recreate the Macdonnell XF-85 Goblin. It was a parasite fighter meant to be deployed from the bomb-bay of bombers as fighter-escort for long-range missions. Its absolutely tiny and weird-looking and attached to the bomber with a hook!
Sounds kinda like a buzz droid from Star Wars
Kinda!
Looked like an egg
Scrapman should play forts high seas
@@chhavishjain6336 thats the most random comment
I can't decide whether to be delighted or depressed that so many odd, yet failed machines were conceptualized. I can imagine these things launching out of aircraft carriers like barrages of missiles.
New technologies always produce this sort of "wild west" testing phase where engineers explore the limits of what's been discovered and try to find the best ways to use it. I find it super fascinating.
Good video as always
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I love how Scrap Man never disappoints
*disappointed
@@naofuminorikiya2527 so he disappoints now?
@@wqfled Everything he uploaded is in the past and done, so therefore, he hasn't disappointed. We don't know, what he will do in the future.
Ye, and he makes everything so interesting.
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7:50 Wings do provide lift, but not in the direction they are facing. Planes can even fly upside down, their wings don't have to be in a particular orientation. In real life, there is no face down or face up for wings, especially for air fighters. After all this information, you ask "how do they work then?". All wings provide very high drag in one plane and low drag in other planes perpendicular to the drag plane. Thus, in a direction with low drag, the wing can move freely, and in a direction with high drag, a large reactive force arises, which, in fact, aircraft rely on. The side with the higher resistance, facing the moving air, is more willing to stop in that direction, while in the other it keeps moving. All planes in level flight are actually tilted up slightly to create this force. This is why the wing on your creation actually provides lift. There is no cancellation. As you say, they provide stability, but in fact, all aircraft do this and fly. In this situation, the aircraft is too heavy in front, then it must be fought. But in real life, the pilot's seat of an airplane is actually very light compared to the engine's turbine, which is why all the airplanes you've ever seen look heavy from the front, which is why you built them that way.
I’m sure a conversation with you would go better, but man, proofread your paragraphs.
@@loganroman5306 sorry, I'm not good in this language, if you can help, say what's wrong
@@loganroman5306 is this version better?
wings do have an up and down side. They can work upside down, just much less efficiently
Wings do have sides, one is lift, flip it around and it's down force. Example plane vs formula one.
Question: since we're dealing in Trailmakers logic, would mounting the wings backwards help?
not sure 100% but i think it doesn't matter
Because wings give lift I think backwards wings would give a uhhh... fun experience with gravity!
How about if the whole barrel moved up as it was going down?
That would be Scrap Mechanic where everything works better backwards
@@Donke267 I was thinking maybe it would try to keep the wing's "front edge" pointed in the direction of travel and not flip over the plane so much during vertical descent. That shouldn't be how wings work in terms of aerodynamics, but with these games you never know.
I think the fix for how wonky it acts when landing is taking that set of thrusters that's attatched to the base and making them constant. A little upwards force not enough to lift off but enough to ease off the suspension, that way the main thrust is used for take-off and for adjusting while landing but you don't have to deal with as intense of a drop
So glad you did this. When you did the tail sitter I was hoping you would eventually do this. Great job man.
Good as always
Not even joking I learned more from this scrapman series that my school XD
Not just knowing old stuff but also knowing how stuff works and why it failed
Let's go, scrap man is the best
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I love the fake out with the optimistic music at 5:28 xD
You should make a plane that airdrops a vehicle
That is massive and I absolutly love it
Watching this before school, thanks for making today epic for me scrapman.
Man that landing at 12:30ish was fantastic.
i wanted to ask you to make this but i didn't because you already made a tailsiter, but yet here you are!
Scrap/Catarinth can we please get a like 2 hour ep on Spotify? Id like to listen to it while studying!
Just put the music you want in an endless loop
@@Armo007ok yea, but still 2 hours would also be nice. Good suggestion tho imma try
I love these historic recreation videos
You should crate a playlist over all the things you tried to replicate. bc its soo cool watching you push yourself to tyhe limit!
At 5:35, the part where ScrapMan just stares at the thrusters failing to lift the VTOL for like 10 seconds is so funny!
Nice video! I love the coleoptere and have always found these old concepts to be some of my favourite pieces of history. I think this plane could work with modern avionics tech.
Cool! I just was thinking about the circular wing. This thing looks so Thunderbirds like
Can you make the Rutan Boomerang?
ScrapMan: "How do you land with out land"?
Launch Pad McQuack: "Any crash you can walk away from, is a good one".
So V-tol-tally awesome
Also, try reversing the wings to make this thing into a sort of )+( Wing, and see how she handles then
Impressive, Scrapman! Well done and as always a very enjoyable video.
I love these unusual plane concepts that he recreate
Scrapmans building and flying skills are so good that i think he could build any plane fly it and land it.
I think you should doJuan de la Cierva's model C. 4 aircraft, it was commercially named an Autogiro. It’s very interesting and I don’t know how the trail makers Physics would work but I think you should test it.
I really like these videos.
The problem with rear/bottom thrust rockets is that all the weight is at the top so any slight angle will increase exponentially but irl you can't put thrusters at the top because the exhaust would melt the rocket and if you put it on the sides it would increase the drag which is doesn't help for something that has to go at least 11.2 km/s to escape earth's atmosphere.
(this also explains why front/top propeller aircraft are generally stable)
If this keeps up scrapman will have every single vtol name inprinted in his head before Christmas
"how do you land without land?" I LOL'd too hard to that
Maybe a mod which can change the block weight would have helped you with this creation, cause the center of mass/lift are so off in this recreation. With all that makes it more impressive that you were able to land it
Nice too see you do another tailsitter. Also could you please do the rotodyne? It’s very fascinating
Me: watching scrapman do these rebuilds
youtube: suggests old ww2 films of experimental vehicles nonstop from now on
You should make lee Richard's annular monoplane. It has a horizontal annular wing. It's pretty cool
hey Scrapman i have a suggestion;To build a McDonnell XF-85 Goblin!
You can hear scrapman strugeling
17:11 I like this quote.
I looks kind of like the SpaceEx starship, with the nose wings, and even the thruster placement :D
It's as if you were balancing a stick on your finger also love the vids scrapman can't wait for multiplayer monday
You should totally build an octopus vehicle.
@scrapman Love the vids! Can you show the logic gates programming in the next video please?
I wish you would do evolution type races again.
I made one of these a while back. I had the same problem, it didn't want to stay vertical. I made the wing so that the bottom modular wings were providing lift, instead of the opposite. I made it on xbox, so I don't think computer players can access it on the workshop.
You should try and make a Cyclocopter
I'd still like to see you attempt to build a V-22 Osprey or AV-8A Harrier in Trailmakers.
An interesting plane to see made would be the Lockheed flatbed, a plane that carried cargo outside the fuselage.
you should add gyro stabilizers in all your VTOL creations, it really helps
ScrapMan you should try combining all of the vtol's in to one big vtolception
Scrap, give this another try, but flip the wing pieces on the ventral side of the craft, so that both halfs of the ring-wing provide lift instead of canceling out. I'm not sure if it would have been included in the original coleoptere, but perhaps a gyroscope would help its stability?
Hey scrap man I've been watching since the tuning fork episode in one of the spaceship games u played
This is nice!
Mate, try to make the BV-141. Asymmetry might be fun to try and deal with.
Scrapman, I got an idea. Make a beyblade and surround it with magnets facing outwards and use thrusters to rotate it. Use a swivel to cancel out the beys rotation and place another swivel on top of it and place some thrusters to use for changing directions (in instruments of destruction)
Scrapman:”How are you supposed to land if there’s no land?!?!”
Plane that are made to land on water: Uhhhhhh
8:49 Does anyone still remember the Card Crusher meme from back in the day?
ScrapMan: "Hey engineers, you want this VTOL plane?"
Engineers: "Sure, I'll have it!"
Scrap man: *crashes* 8:49
I think if u put the thrust a little below the wings you would have more control over the craft or to make sharper turns (i dont know anything about plains just saying what i think) think of a plains thrust is behind the wings that give lift and the pitch thing is next to it but your using the thrust to turn so you should have the thrust behind the wings (like i said im not smart when it comes to plains but that might work) think if u have lift if the middle of your craft or the center of the weight and you have thrust infront of the wings it going to go up but if you have it behind is going to go straight or the plain is going to have upward thrust ( im still just speaking my mind sorry if this upsets the smarter people bc i got no clue about plains 😂 and if im wrong let me know please people )
Multiplayer video suggestion: compete to make the best podracer.
2:00 including a brief *oscillation*
acceleration: am i a joke to you?
Have we done match box races yet! I'm not sure if they would work in SM or troublemakers but Interesting to think about.
Bro nice
jeez he deserves 4 billion subs
I guess they overestimated the power from those jets.
You should have kept control thrusters on all the time in hover mode. Otherwise you loose any control over the air an have to wait for thrusters to power up again and again.
Please try an recreate one of the most interesting looking planes ive ever seen.... the "Curtiss-Goupil Duck"
Could you do a SpaceX starship recreation that would be awesome
Since he decided to make a flight mode separate from takeoff/landing, if he added something to rotate the nose wings 90 degrees in landing mode, I wonder if that drag would have made dropping tail first more stable?
I would think that keeping the nose fins vertical would actually be more helpful, in the same way rocket tailfins assist with keeping the rocket stable by forcing the air to flow over them a specific way.
Can you build the Vespa 150 TAP??
I recommend you to build b-70 valkyrie
A third thing to try, instead of having the thrust so far back in the ring, try moving them closer to the cockpit so that most of the weight is behind them? Surely that'd make things a bit more stable for a tail landing?
Can you turn half the wings around so the the ones at least on the bottom and top are providing lift? Also make it so you can urn off engines in pairs so you have control even when going down.
"How do you land without land?"
-that one wise guy
I figured out that building these in Main Assembly is much easier. The curves, servos, motors all work together.
would be interesting to take failed designs like this and after seeing them fail like this, too see what improvements can be made.
"How do you land without land." Good question.
Scrap man:how do you land with no land. Seaplanes:
Can you explain what an oscillation is?
12:10 My neighbours be like
imagine being a motion sick pilot flying that thing
Can you please do a tutorial on how to make mode in logic. I know it’s not the usual type of video you do but I’m doing a build and have no idea how to do the modes
I bet with modern control systems the Coleoptere would work just as intended.
100% sure it would with the computed timing of every action. But it still wouldn't be of any use because it would rely too much on the AI. In case of an emergency, manual landing is near impossible
@@ctld03 but any emergency that would destroy all of the avionics on a fighter would certainly already have killed the pilot anyway. All modern fighters are completely unflyable without computer assistance, to the extent that a skilled pilot would struggle to keep one the right way up in otherwise calm and level flight.
YOO ScrapMan ur soo close 700k :D
hey scrapman can you do the i join random servers series but you drive the failed vehicles that you re-created in trailmakers like seriously i want to see it
What if you made the body shorter and a little wider? The wings weren't so far out and the body wasn't so long in the design, that's where you're getting a lot of that topheaviness, I think.
Looks like these ideas will get us to scrap mecanic ch 2
12:06 failing moped sounds
Do a Multiplayer game with KAN, KOSMO and MOONBO using failed LAND, SKY or WATER (YOUR CHOICE) creations from the past🔥
Yess trailmakers
When your historical recreation doesn't work, but the original never worked either: task failed successfully.
Intressting plane if you Can call it that even.
Not sure if the game has it in but would a gyroscope system help with the landing and taking off so it keeps it up right
can you do next invention in main assembly :)
couldnt you q and e for yaw, a and d for roll? thats a pretty standard control setup...
If you would have spun the bottom (of the fuselage) wings upside down they would have helped with lift
Since you're recreating failed historical vehicles, might I suggest the ball tank? I forget its technical name, but it's literally just a ball with guns sticking out of it.
The Kugelpanzer? I'm also seeing a model kit for the "Soviet Ball Tank “SHAROTANK”", but when I google Sharotank I get EXCLUSIVELY model kits, so I think the Sharotank is fictional (and highly impractical) whereas the Kugelpanzer actually got exported and used in Japan. Once. And was quickly captured.
yeah that would be a neat video, making the Kugelpanzer and maybe also trying some of the more outlandish ball tank concepts.
@@Extramrdo Yea, that's the one!
Oooooo do Gunstar one from The Last Star Fighter, please include death blossom.