The cost of banning Huawei technology
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ย. 2024
- Some security experts have warned Canada about doing business with Huawei, or working with it on 5G technology. The company has been accused of having ties to Chinese espionage activities.
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"Canada is following orders" what the hell is that? Is Canada another state of USA?
Basically, yes, a Vassel country, so are Japan, Korea, Australia, NZ, and UK. They always follow US order.
@M9 It is unfortunate but true. Canadians are tired of being dragged along. So much for democracy.
It was a poor way to state that Canada was following the stipulations of a treaty signed with the United States. If Canada ordered the same thing, the U.S. would have no choice but to comply as did Canada.
aria afghan yeah that’s what this looks like
state 51
"canada were just following orders" THEN WHO RUNS THE COUNTRY? WHO IS YOUR MASTER?
NorthernPioneer Soros
@@bloodhun23 false argument. If they are truely independent then this arrest wouldn't happen in the first place.
The queen
None of this should be a surprise. The U.S. butters Canada’s bread but so does the British Commonwealth. Canada has a lot to think about moving forward in the future. It’s “sovereignty” will be dependent on who it allies with.
Canada has arms and legs and a trigger finger LOL and Japan is made up of a landmass that converts into a Godzilla, and the USA turns into a Transformer LOL, it's always a country that's doing this in the country doing that countries or just Joe graphic regions and land masses they don't do anything they are part of the planet right?
If Canada was"Ordered" to arrest someone and can not legally do anything about it ... it makes me wonder WHO is in charge of our policing and WHO has the final word on the Canadian legal system . How is this NOT political if the extradition agreement is a political agreement. ?
Wonder no more! Here's the answer!
internationalextraditionblog.com/2011/04/12/canada-extradition-treaty-with-the-united-states/
@@sleepingkirby Thanks for the link .. It's quite the article... Tight treaty ! I see it was amended and ratified by the Right Honourable Joe Clark.
@M9 It is internationally. But Canada cannot charges her because she is not Canadian and Canadian pr.
@M9 the Skycom sold tech to Iran will violate Canadian law, it will consider accusation if she is Canadian or PR in this country. But since she is not, she should not be arrested.
The arrest request would have to first go through Canadian government before entering the justice system. The enforcer (the police) is part of the government. The one that is pursuing the extradition on behalf of the America is the Attorney General, also part of the executive branch.
Huawei is not forcing anyone to buy their products.
Oh yeah they do, like do you want us to buy an inferior product? Lol huawei is forcing us by making the best product
Apple Forcing me to buy their expensive products with same quality as low price product.
big country is subsidizing big money to let you use its products. u happy? why will it do this? use your heart to feel the reasons please.
9
So Huawei users cannot use Google n play store now?
Canada is now the 51st American state.
@@YiuCheung United state of Americanada.
Now your being silly , we all know that the UK`s the 51st state -
Canada can be the 52nd if it likes
@@userwest626 Sure we are. Whats your problem ???? Chinese steal technology, they lie, and have no freedom. Lousy country
Swedy Senior The speed of HUAWEI 5G is 10 times faster than the US 5G. Do chinese steal the technology that the US has not invented??
@@mark9992008 they stole the basics surely. Having the basics, you then expand. You need the BASIC before expanding
The West have been in Africa, South America and Middle East, and many other regions since few hundred years ago and yet you don't see much development and betterment of the people till China's entry into these markets only in the last 20 years! If this is not "Action Speaks Louder than Talk then What?" If anyone country genuinely wants to help these less developed countries, take action now, don't just pay lip service!
Exactly, I buy Chinese products and boycott anything American other than Jeans, ha ha.
I will decide where and who I buy from, not America and certainly not the weak and pathetic Britain.
US:jump
Canada:how high?
US:bite
Canada:who?
pengqiang zhao China: Let's murder our citizens in the millions.
Also China: Yes master, thank you
@@hrdkorebp classic china
@@hrdkorebp 法轮功傻逼吧,嘿嘿
@@hrdkorebp轮子 你家死马了
@@SHAIVONTEDAGOD yes! you are
Yeah, changing all tele devices from Huawei to Cisco (well known supplier to US Army, Navy and Air-force), that's the safer way to be a good puppy.
KOO Huang I think the main provider of 5G technology in the US is Qualcomm, which has a monopoly on smartphone chipsets through and through anyways.
that company doesn't supply a nation that would be deemed an enemy of Canada
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Canada was just following order...omg that so sad!
feel so disappointed of canada
@@baymax6412 Sympathy for Canada
I like how Canadians have to pay the price for America's corporate welfare
canadians are rich enough to pay for that but too poor to use cheap subsidized products and end up listening to and following big brother's order for generations to come?
most countries are actually more afraid of the US 5G. Once the United States entered the market, the country was monitored by the United States. On the contrary, Huawei is a safer choice because Huawei will consider local security issues.There are not many people who really understand the security of the equipment, but purely from the choice, the use of American equipment and software is more risky and more vulnerable to extortion. If the device is really vulnerable, China might steal your technology, but the United States will want your life. People who really understand the safety of equipment??
I wonder why i didnt see this news
Thank you for your input that's very interesting points interesting spy game going on industrial espionage boring James Bond stuff.
As a tech I serve Christ Jesus carry on
This Stanford Zhāng is so poor. Has been utilized by China govt for 20 yrs. sigh
Malyasia 370 was filled with computer engineers aswell when it went missing
Yes, I too am American. Go Christ touchdown nachoes. Also, TRON is real and not at all a movie. Do you'all like hotdogs and paris fries?
Makes me want to sell my iPhone and buy a Huawei phone instead.
Then do it...
That's good
Ok using HONOR play
No, don't buy a Huawei phone, buy a Fido phone or Motorola phone !!!
Sorry, you can’t. Your gov forbade you from buying huawei products
Damn as a Canadian I'm always persistent that Canada is better than America but following Americas order like a dog makes me embarrassed beyond words 😶😶😶
Than you are not a tue Canadian. GTFO
See, it's not a question of following orders as much as following the Law. We have an extradition treaty with the US. They request, we acquiesce, we request, they acquiesce. It's a bilateral treaty. She will get a fair extradition treaty, it's not as if there aren't mechanisms set in place to prevent abuse of the system. Besides, not following it would mean that Canada would break it's own law and the treaty it signed.
Canada has become just a tail of TrumpDog.
@@rtp7431 then Canadian loves to be slaves. Isn't so?
there is a 'political arrest' feature in your extradition treaty, and trump has said that it is political. i hope canadian court notices this emergency exit.@@the_astrokhan
Canada just do what the U.S. asks to do.. so disappointing.
What are you talking about she broke the law...
Shadarz who’s law? Lmao, since when Americans law becomes the international law
When another countrie's law superior than your own in your country, I don't know what you call it , but in our country it calls colonization.
@Jack Sparrow US will not if there is no benefit for him, and Canada can not do anything and say anything to US because Canada is just a slave of America
Free Thought lmao, you don’t even have a trial yet and you are saying she broke the law? Lmao
Don’t feel sad Canada, you are not the only dogs..lol
dont eat Canada
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
So we are told that Huawei has ties to espionage activities. Exactly what are these ties? What did they do? Exactly! How did they do it? Exactly! I know that the US can monitor all communications on the planet including your cellphone.
ron hat So far no one provide proof, all the info we get are saying "might"!
@resigned liberal she has 7 passports because she travels a lot, Chinese passport doesn't have 100 pages on it so she needs to renew passport often. She has only one active passport which is issued in China, and she is a permanent resident in Hong Kong, China.
remember the "iraq has weapons of mass destruction” BS?
selling components to enemies of both the US and Canada
@resigned liberal I have three passports, I am not a dual citizen anywhere so only one passport is active. Dual citizens are able to have two active passports. I'm not sure, but if a person is a citizen in other countries then they could possibly have more passports, but as I said I'm not sure that this is permissible. Sometimes it is a requirement to carry two passports if for example a passport with an active visa in it is expired and the person has been issued with a new passport without a visa the active visa in the expired passport is recognised by most countries even China but NOT in Australia. I have been in this situation. I see nothing sinister in the fact this woman has three passports. What I do see sinister is the fact the media is telling less than half the truth here and trying to show Meng up in a bad light. Western governments are sinking to all-time lows, and low life media is helping them no end.
Now I realized the country where I live in is a joke.
Yes you live in China.
@Jim Battersbee then get out and see how you like it in North Korea
@Jim Battersbee ?????? Wouldn't invading South Korea also be a crime or we just brushing that under the rug
@Wolf Blitzer No, I live in Canadog.
I am wondering are you fa lung gong practitioner?
Samsung Ericsson also voilate CAATSA ,but US authority taking action only against Huawei.
Didnt know earth is actually united states of america....
Huawai is safe technology, but the USA is angry that the NSA must stay out.
No it's not.
@Ted dibiasi-JLC-Sinn Whatever, pigskin
Canada has no right to treat Hua Wei’s executive as a fugitive! US sanction on Iran is not justified and is not accepted by the international community! Paul
Paul you know NOTHING we have a lawful TREATY with the USA. 100yrs old TREATY.
@Norsemen88 you are absolutely correct, and what can they DO , no send their SCRAP CRAP TO US?
You all miss the point that she was not inside Canada when that arrest as made. She was in Transit and not passed through immigrations. So technically, Canada did an international kidnapping
We have any right to arrest criminals like her. Boohoo!
Paul, that reminds me of those refugees in their homeland in Middleeast
Im watchin this with Huawei phone
An China is watching you watch this in the phone.
Me too in the United States
Same
Watching this with iPhone XS guess US is watching me as well.
@@bogeyman7436 ever heard of NSA
1, have the u.s. ever think about the life of people in other countries when us simply apply sanction to them? especially those in middle east where u.s. bring wars and sanction. Where is the so-called 'human rights' the u.s. always insists?
2, china develop better 5g tech that america can't compete, so america just use whatever they want as an excuse to ban huawei. Where is the so-called 'free market'?
3, america keep itself rich by war, force, threaten, economic power. That is to say, america is actually robbing from other countries and never let them have the ability to compete with it.
What a selfish country america is. Canada is just a dog of america there, its economic and sovereignty are controlled by america so it is not going to refuse any illegal request from america.
Benjamin K Man, I agree with you
@@calidude1114 are you kidding me? America launched wars to middle east and as a result ISIS was created and millions of innocent people were killed or became refugees. Europe countries helped those refugees but what did america do? Look at your clown president he is now building walls.
Who created Isreal and kick out all the natives to make room for Israell and the Jews? That was /is wrong. If German did wrong, German should cede its own turf to host Jews. Not forcefully making the local people refugees of their homeland. It just seems wrong to have Jews massively moved in and occupy others land.
@@FungPhoenix who kicked out all the Taiwanese people ? Who burned the books of anacinet scholars and beautiful ancient chinse works ? Stop your hipocracy !! The United states went out and helped the Jews from being prosecuted
CoolStuff Unboxings what about during the 17-20th century when westerner from Europe took away the entire North America , Oceania and South Africa? You guys keep preaching about democracy and freedom , are you practicing what you preach ? Cant handle fair competition so resort to extradite a top executive ? How low can you be ? Why are you taking away energy resources from Middle East ? Why are you entering Iraq on fabricated lies about WMD ? why did you guys bug the German chancellor phone ? When are you guys returning the land to the Cherokee , mestizo , kiwi and aborigines their rightful land ? When are you guys going to return all the artifacts from the Beijing summer palace that wss burn down ? When are you guys going to repay the debt that amount Ted to 21 trillion ? Want some
More question , or you are just a shameless person ?
This time ...the world is not with USA... and yes Canada will definitely face the consequences
What consequences? No Chinese Network? Perfect.
probably arrested by a Turbin wearing RCMP
No. We gonna join the ban on Huawei, to help China's economy collapse.
Swedy Senior Thanks, we will get u guys some gifts such as nuclear bomb as the return for ur kindness
@@rtp7431 it means u paying more money.
Wow I didn't know she was on her way to Mexico. There is serious talk here in Mexico that the new government wants closer ties to China. Specially for investment in new infrastructure projects by the new government. It seems to me that the US feels China's influence growing in its backyard and they don't like it at all. They don't want to admit that China is already a major global player. Canada is making a huge mistake by getting on the bad side o the largest economy in the world. The world changed, the era of US total dominance is over.
Yes just bought for my niece in Canada from Alibaba Canada 137$ Huawei honor 9 nice and affordable phone . Sorry Apple can't afford your overpriced phone which is assembled same factory in Shenzhen China ! These days folks tend to blame their inability to protect their lousy technology from foreign country is flourishing lol . Ordinary folks us cheaper better we don't have anything hide same time our goverment allowed Microsoft , Facebook , Twitter , etc still tracking us !!!!
@@jeffmahoney1271 huawei spend $20b on r&d last year. Employ more than 30k phd researchers across its r&d offices in japan, china, europe, canada and silicom valley... Beside being the leader in 5g, Huawei is also one of the top patent filer in USA. huaweei dont have ip problem with nokia or ericson they all have signed shared cross agreement.
Thank you @@hullopillow4853 for the info. European Nokia and Ericson are smarter - share costs agreement. Technology is to benefit mankind. Friendly competition is to benefit mankind.
Canada should stay white this is happening if you accept chinese immigrants in your country they have not nationalism ,deported all chinese
They have to stop Chinese cheaters somehow
@M9 Yes, and i many illegal copies of Windows are in use in China ? We are not dealing with saint here.
I have a Huawei phone !
ask president Xi how he loves your life, family pictures and relations....you are spied Dhaaaaaa
@@francoisguilbert3 He wouldn't bother to spy on you.
Beside, the US Government, they are already spying on their citizens.
@@HighTierTree
Whataboutism again.
Yeah, I can say the NSA wouldn't bother to spy on you either, although they do spy on everyone.
do you know that you are spied by us government already? if you don't wanna go this, try to write on the paper. throw your computer and your cellphone.@@francoisguilbert3
Those designed backdoors are also susceptible to hacking by other unintended parties.
US seems so innocent not probing the whole world . "Is Snowden dead yet ? God damned, we cannot arrest him because he is now in Russia , not Canada!"
I disagree the statement that saying Canada is US loyal dog.
They shouldn't discriminate dogs.
I agree, poor dog's get such a bum rep
shame of kidnapping competitor, shame of american and canadian
How about we don't arrest people in Canada for the U.S at all unless we have something to charge them with under our laws. Now we are stuck between the 2 largest economies who are in a trade war, one of the dumbest moves our federal government has ever made. We as Canadians are about to learn a hard economic lesson.
Watching this makes me worry if my living expenses are going to rise. I don't want any inflation because of the moves our federal government made.
Donnie you are showing us your age, the USA Is everything to Canada, without them we would be MEXICANS with SWEATERS.
@@bloodhun23 It probably won't end well with the Chinese government from the looks of it. If any form of trade retaliation from China occurs, the Canadian economy will suffer and an inflation is bound to happen.
@@bloodhun23 but strong enough for CA
@@bloodhun23 for the world unite against USA would come sooner I think
Politics above law? Scary...let’s not give in to this
@@barrettfenwick8028 US has already targetting the company. It is a bad move to tagetting individual person in this issue...Very bad. So every country can start arrest foreigners that they believe their company is annoying
They directly said this is about the law. Namely extradition law. If China doesn't like it, they can stop sending North Korean escapees back to North Korea. Because that's the same thing.
Barrett Fenwick show the evidence please. don't just make your own guess
The law was followed here. That's why she got arrested.
Those guys who are supporting Canada ,you do know that this accusation has not been yet proved .Cause I see alot already doing it .
i will buy a huawei phone support!!!
Now you can get a New Huawei and 7 passports for bonus.
ya cuz youre poor
I have been using HW phone for 2 years. Nice phone.
Yeah yur chinese
Since when does a foreign company need the USA’s permission to sell tech to Iran?
The US is trying to get around this by saying the equipment would have contained some of their technology. Pretty sneaky.
Funny how CBC has the comments section open for a topic like this but if it involves Trudeau at all comments are disabled
Yes, so true!!!!
CBC could post a video about puppies and it would still be flooded with Trudeau trolls...
Wasup Fool
This comment section is full of Chinese trolls.
THIS IS HOW CANADA OPERATE...so called we are a country of rule of low.....
It will be very interesting to see what happens to all the Huawei offices here in Canada... they employ quite few people!
Fire em and replace with Mexican workers
@@lightsun-ui8jq
It's still a trillion dollar economy. Hardly 'small'.
NorthernPioneer
That's what u think. No more crap. China Is now very advance in technology. U r behind time.
NorthernPioneer
You never study history. Chinese were and are great inventor. And 1cent for u.
John Al Niel
Don't u realize that the technology in your country r Chinese and Korean engineers.
Everyone will pay more money for false security without Huawei competition.
There is no proof they are spying
u are a part of the evidence now
Canada needs to let Huawei go. The risk is to great.
All China trade and investors in Canada are going to withdrawn and many canadian lose their job.
u sinful in CN's eyes as you dare to tell the truth! bravo canucks.
Gee whiz the CIA and the FBI and the NSA have all my phone calls and internet site visits and who knows what else but now Huawei has all that information ... According to the Fourth Amendment you have a reasonable expectation of privacy if you believe that ...
@Yourname Here Her arrest was an attack against Huawei.
As a consumer, I'm sick of the monopolistic network providers, but who knew they would resort to kidnapping and framing
Hauwai makes great phones
ok... so tell me what she actually did wrong?
I’m from the UK and I and a lot of my friends have the p20/ p20 pro/ Mate 20 pro and we all think its better then the iPhones and Samsung’s
So much hypocrisy and so little time. After all it is all about politics.
I do not understand why some people want to put a microwave near the head ?
Launch a missile to canada. You Tredeau better see if Trump will protect you or not? I bet he won't.
Watching this on my Huawei phone like...
They did the same with LeeCo when they started selling phone's for $99 with hardware compatible to the iPhone.
Jealousy takes many forms😉
made a comment the other day on the cbc website, to point out the fact that Ms. Meng
did not do anything to deserve this kind of treatment, guess what right away they disabled it
so much for speech of freedom in Canada and shame on you
There are many dogs of America, UK
What about NSA monitoring and recording, reading all sorts of American communication?
where is the proof of have security issue? you tube video in professional details? PDF, books? release to public?? where in the world the proof?
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Nice to see Russia isn't the only country with bots. Good work Chinese bots, the comment section almost seems legit.
Is the arrest itself legal, not the extradition treaty?
we will see, wonder how they will put it legaly, or if they will buy the judge over this mater, to comply with anything USA need to get her
Just say no!!
Wow Rubio's comment at the end says it all. Very informed
I thought America was about freedom and not banning foreign companies.
who said that? did you even watch the video?
@@blakespower I wouldn't watch trash like this. If your headline is ban a company, then idea is appealing to America.
Is the biggest gangster in the world! USA
The U.S. campaign to block Huawei hardware from being used in 5G networks expanded from domestic to international early this year when American officials asked the Australian, Canadian, and South Korean governments to freeze out the Chinese company. Now the effort is expanding, as the U.S. has asked Germany, Italy, and Japan to avoid Huawei gear, the Wall Street Journal reports, and may offer financial aid to countries that comply.
If they do they will have no other option but to rely on American Cisco to build their 5G network, and fall under the risk of American surveillance like PRISM. It's ok for the US to suppress its rivals but accusing them dirty when US itself is not clean is just disgusting, and remember we haven't see any concrete proof yet from the US, reminds me of Iraq war and WMD.
The CIA is concerned Huawei might use 5G technology to tap Merkel's Phone.
Looks like 5G is going to take sometime since loser is eliminating competition.
What's wrong with 4g? I usually use wi-fi since it is available, and in the future more available, and will be everywhere. We don't need that crap let alone it DOES pose a security risk. So if you want it move to China.
The problem is that Huawei has overtaken Apple to be the second most popular smartphone in the world. South Korea is first with Samsung and now Apple has dropped to third position.
How about China stops money laundering in Canadian real estate.
you hit the nail on the head
@@janusjones6519 I'm sure nothing happens in China without the government's say so...they control everything and they see everything that goes on in China. And these are members of the government we are talking about. So either they are soo incompetent they cannot even keep track of the corruption of their own officials...or they are in on the corruption. and I don't think the Chinese gov. is incompetent, therefore....
Arrest whoever money laundering in Canada then. Why abduct a company executive? Do you have any evidence to prove that she was involved in money laundering crimes? If so, what charges did your government press against her?
@@kotnakerry3819 because she is in charge of a company that broke the law? She is not above the law just because she is a company executive. seems obvious to me.
@@verstwo2 That law is not an international law, China and its citizens have no obligation to abide by the laws US made for themselves.
Haha Canada not even ruler in their own country.
Free huawei!!
The Microsoft work withe the US armee, this is Not a Problem ,dear patriots...Lol
As a Chinese Canadian, I can tell that if Canadian communication system relies on the supplies of Huawei equipment, Canada will get trouble sooner or later and will cast much more.
As a Canadian...I'm disgusted about the action the government has taken. Cowards
Who is this guy with his eyebrows painted on. Has anyone around him told him how silly he looks. Either take off the glasses or paint them on where they belong. Just above the eye. Not halfway up your forehead! It completely distracts from what he is saying.
Ahh, vanity. All is vanity...............
is Canada and US relationship that bad that people are taking Huawei /China side? we have a legal obligation to up hold the agreement we have with US. The US would do the same for us.
yeah China is not innocent
1 kidnapper and 1 bully perfect combination.
There is no cost in not supporting a country with a horrible human rights record.
Nothing is irreplaceable.
*I was deceived into believing that Canada is a sovereign nation. I had no idea it's an American territory.*
Canada needs to give her up immediately!
Canada is a joke, this is humiliating,as a Canadian
I'm an actual Canadian. Sorry - but you are an embarrassment to our Country. Where is the pride? We made an arrest because a law was broken. That's the protocol that is taken innocent or guilty. Our LEGAL SYSTEM doesn't have emotions.
Or Cater to Rich Chinese
Please stop mocking a loyal dog! A loyal dog has backbone but Canada does not.
Just cause it wasn't apple's
Please stop blaming Justine, that’s what Canada got into such a situation , when sending a boy to do a man’s job.
Never buying a Huawei
I'm watching it on huawei phone and believe me it performs really well way better than Samsung.
She didn't brake any Canadian rule/ law! So why is she detained?
It’s unfortunate how few people in these comments understand the situation beyond the headlines. She was arrested for fraud, there were no politics involved.
Instead of calling Canada dog, I think Canada has no alternative choice. Canadian judicial system is used by the US government.
Very sad
What Mark Rubio says is so correct.
Just a quick question: who gives you the right to arrest her?
What is that cost of not taking action against them?
its less than the cost of not banning huawei.
The last guy that spoke is absolutely right !
Please Canada don’t listen to Marco Rubio.
Canada can extradite her to the USA and I think that it should do it quickly because it sounds like a problem for them to deal with.
Canada has the right to refuse to use Hawei’s products. But following the requirements of America’s arresting Meng, Canada did too much
Hope that wont be problem on the friendship between Canadian and Chinese people. I still think Canada is the most friendly country for Chinese in western countries.
The cost of banning Huawei technology is the title, but what about the cost of not banning Huawei Technology
If the tables were turned I think the US would do the same for Canada. We love Canada!
Would be nice if Canada becomes an independent country one day
Huawie employee in Poland arrested for espionage.
Arresting Meng was unbelievably shameful on the part of Canada and Canadians should just be ashamed. Canada might be bound by a treaty but this treaty cannot apply here because it is unfair to Meng. Canada should ask the US about the other companies' executives!