NASCAR is a lot tougher than you might think, just because they only go left, that doesn't mean it's not difficult, and that is just a washed up argument anyways. Imagine your at a turn at Talladega Speedway. The bank angle is a whopping 33 degrees and you are going around 200mph with a car on your left and right going the same speed but only inches away, sometimes even bumping you. These drivers have to be very precise in their driving, or they can take out many cars with one small mistake. Also, because the specifications on the cars are relatively the same, driver skill plays a large role in racing. As in f1, we often see the high powered Mercs easily beating other teams with less powerful engines. No discredit to Lewis and Nico though, because they are excellent drivers.
+gainpro NASCAR really isn't that boring though. It's certainly a lot more exciting than F1 because all the cars are identical in terms of performance. In F1, all the cars have spread out after a few laps and there isn't much going on, but in NASCAR, you've often got packs of a dozen cars (or more!) racing inches away from each other even after a hundred laps.
exactly ! those that come up with "only left turns" are the uninformed ignorant, besides there are a number of tough roadcourses in NASCAR too. professional drivers who have transitioned from f1 to NASCAR have not been able to be successful in it, and yet they all said how much more intense and fun it is compared to f1.
I'm sorry gonal, but you are pretty wrong. The Red Bull Racing Brian Vickers #83 Toyota Camry used to race in the Sprint Cup Series in 2011, where they ran over 800 HP in the cars. The 500 HP number comes from the engine being incredibly detuned. You are correct that some of the cars there were not ones that took part in the Sprint Cup Series, but instead the Nationwide Series. It is true that those cars are not as fast and powerful as the Sprint Cup Cars, but they still made over 700 HP, not 500.
They're playing fast and loose with the NASCAR nomenclature. My first thought when he mentioned 500HP was "Oh, so that's why they're letting any dumbass with a few bucks out on their own with them." Don't get me wrong, 150Mph is quick, but it doesn't feel that fast when the road is 50ft wide with runoff to spare. You don't even have to brake for the turns.
For all of the people who say NASCAR is just a bunch of left turns, you're wrong. While they do run mostly ovals, they also race on road courses from time-to-time. NASCAR has a road course race coming up in Watkins Glen, NY the first Sunday in August.
Just for a reference as to how difficult NASCAR actually is. Juan Pablo Montoya had seven wins in F1 from 2001 to 2006, including a Monaco Grand Prix. In nine years of NASCAR Sprint Cup racing he only has two wins. I know it's hard to compare the two, but this just shows that NASCAR may not be as simple as it may seem.
I didn't know there are American stock cars in the United Kingdom. As someone who grew up with NASCAR here in the USA, I have to admit that this looks awesome!
Glad you were able to have the experience even though it is significantly less powerful than the actual race cars were at the time that they ran. I guess they don't want anyone smacking the wall at 190 mph and hurting themselves. For those that are not familiar with NASCAR cars, the entire car starts as a custom built tubular chassis on to which they fasten custom rolled steel body panels mimicking a current at the time production vehicle. There are templates that the car has to fit into in order to qualify, meaning that the body has to follow specific guidelines for height, width and length as well as shape. The engines are custom built and usually are 355 CI (5.8 liters). The heads alone cost over 10k to machine and setup. The engine is normally aspirated V8 with single overhead cam and one spark plug per cylinder. Some of the circuits require a restrictor plate between the carb and the intake to limit the max airflow going into the intake. The only thing that could be considered computer controlled would possibly be a rev limiter to keep heavy right feet from blowing the engine.
I was lucky enough to have a similar experience in some hot laps on the passenger seat of a NASCAR race car without helmet, there was a big hole in the firewall between me and the tire and all de rock chips of the circuit went directly to my face. One of the best experiences of my life.
We did this for my dad on Father's day and it was a BLAST!!! Our track was Talladega. I achieved the fastest speed in the group I ran in for the day (slowest group) of 162.84 mph. Looks like you had as much fun as I did!
Shmee touched on it but its worth noting that these are the lower end of NASCAR series cars. The top series features decals for the newer models and in the past have run average laps @ 212 mph on some tracks. They also handle better than you think they do. 2 road corses are part of the season and they run lap times that would rival some of the best cars out there. The best part about NASCAR is how raw it is. It's the most driver oriented series out here. No magnetic dampers, no power steering, no dual clutch transmissions. Just driver, wheel, and motor. And 200 mpg at 1+g going hard into a corner 3 wide with 1 inch between cars is intense.
Tim, I have to say, seeing you casual down your appearance with a T-shirt and your hair looking somewhat spiked when you excited the car for the last time really made a nice change.
nascar tips: For curve turns go low to prevent tire marbles In flat road stay right but try to avoid a crash if happens Pit stop Speed: 35mph its better to beat a pace car if a crash or a big one happened Thats all
Well, this video was a surprise. If they offer it, or when you come state side, should run them in a pack. The noise and bumper to bumper racing is pretty intense. Much better than solo runs.
Really enjoying all of these new videos Shmee! It's just so awesome to see you experience all of these new things! This is what makes your channel superior at the moment in terms of content!!! Sick !!!
Awesome video. As a huge NASCAR fan, i loved this video, i use to go to Rockingham all the time to watch these race, & i have a used NASCAR tyre in my garden that i bought back that now has a plant growing in it :)
I also did the NASCAR fan experience. I enjoyed it very much. I did not drive however. Getting in and out was interesting for me especially because I am in a wheelchair. But overall I really enjoyed it. Hope you did too. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
That is not the shell used in the Xfinity series. The current cars for Sprint and Xfinity look much newer. The green car you drove is currently used in ARCA I believe. The Brian Vickers car and Carl Edwards cars are old Xfinity cars.
The real nascar drivers have balls of steel IMHO. They drive on the limit in such close quarters and numbers at huge speeds. All credit to them. Nutters.
@Shmee150 Great video Tim!! The REAL NASCAR CAR used to be 800 HP, was downgraded to 725 HP. The races are incredibly exciting even though turning left, left, left becomes somewhat monotonous, the NASCAR Tracks in the USA have banked corners which are needed to keep the cars on the track while going through the corners at 150 - 180 MPH!!!!! Way to go👍👍👍👍 Very excited to see you have that opportunity!!!!!!! LARRY from 🇨🇦👍👍👍👍👍👍
You should also try out NHRA Top Fuel Dragsters the next time you are in the US or if they have it in Europe. 10,000+ bhp, 0-60 mph in less than one second, 1,000 feet in 3+ seconds in excess of 300 mph. But you probably know all that.
Hey Tim, thought I'd take a trip backwards in time and watch a few old videos. I found this one which I forgot about. Have you revisited these monsters since this video? I did the ride along on the "Tricky Triangle" at Pocono Raceway in Pennsylvania. It's a bit different than a typical oval. They also do super car rides/drives there. In addition, they have a kart racing experience. My son has done some karting and drove the course at Pocono. Anyway, it was fun taking a look back. Maybe you'll take a trip "across the pond" in 2018! Have a Happy New Year. Looking forward to some Porsche videos soon! Take care.....
If you're ever in the US check out the Richard Petty Experience where you drive Nascars but might experience racing with other vehicles chasing and racing against you.
Hi Shmee! If your doing all these different kind of motorsports? Why don't you head to Santa Pod race way and have ago in the two seater Top Methanol Dragster?? It is one hell of an experience, I have don't it my self, and you will like 168-185mph in like 8 seconds!!! Please please please go and try this out! Amazing experience!!!!
So, having driven in a Formula one style car on a Formula one style circuit and now having driven a NASCAR vheicle on a NASCAR style circuit, what one do you thing is better? I personally think that they're both equally amazing.
This car has the nascar 900hp 9000rpm motor removed and I guess has a run of the mill 500hp motor. The engines are usually owned by the engine builder.
I was wondering, You were "suited and booted" into your racegear, but when you are entering the car on your own, you don't have your sparco race shoes on, why is that?
Shmee do you know why he has 2nd hand stock cars? They need to be rebuilt after every race that's why they are so simple. Those are toast beat up loud and slow. By that I mean too much previous mechanical stress.
Guys cmon, we know its Nascar and it can be boring because its just left turns, but dont forget that is a 500hp car, light and with more or less a straight pipe. Everything is shaking and noisy and fuel smell, so must be a nice experience. also really fast
Why don't you get one of the last model Ford GT, great car and also great investment. That will for sure get you in good with Ford and you can find some with no mileage on them.
NASCAR is a lot tougher than you might think, just because they only go left, that doesn't mean it's not difficult, and that is just a washed up argument anyways. Imagine your at a turn at Talladega Speedway. The bank angle is a whopping 33 degrees and you are going around 200mph with a car on your left and right going the same speed but only inches away, sometimes even bumping you. These drivers have to be very precise in their driving, or they can take out many cars with one small mistake. Also, because the specifications on the cars are relatively the same, driver skill plays a large role in racing. As in f1, we often see the high powered Mercs easily beating other teams with less powerful engines. No discredit to Lewis and Nico though, because they are excellent drivers.
You really know about nascars !!!
It's boring.
+Nik Brudar not when you're actually driving
+gainpro NASCAR really isn't that boring though. It's certainly a lot more exciting than F1 because all the cars are identical in terms of performance. In F1, all the cars have spread out after a few laps and there isn't much going on, but in NASCAR, you've often got packs of a dozen cars (or more!) racing inches away from each other even after a hundred laps.
exactly ! those that come up with "only left turns" are the uninformed ignorant, besides there are a number of tough roadcourses in NASCAR too. professional drivers who have transitioned from f1 to NASCAR have not been able to be successful in it, and yet they all said how much more intense and fun it is compared to f1.
lol. 500 is detuned. They normally make closer to 800 N.A
older cars, and those aren't the sprint nascars
I'm sorry gonal, but you are pretty wrong. The Red Bull Racing Brian Vickers #83 Toyota Camry used to race in the Sprint Cup Series in 2011, where they ran over 800 HP in the cars. The 500 HP number comes from the engine being incredibly detuned. You are correct that some of the cars there were not ones that took part in the Sprint Cup Series, but instead the Nationwide Series. It is true that those cars are not as fast and powerful as the Sprint Cup Cars, but they still made over 700 HP, not 500.
+chargenick1563 I don't think they're NNS cars, I think they're ARCA cars.
They're playing fast and loose with the NASCAR nomenclature. My first thought when he mentioned 500HP was "Oh, so that's why they're letting any dumbass with a few bucks out on their own with them."
Don't get me wrong, 150Mph is quick, but it doesn't feel that fast when the road is 50ft wide with runoff to spare. You don't even have to brake for the turns.
Driving manual, V8 cars that sound epic. I see a lot of stuff I actually like way better than F1...
Thanks for this, Tim!
For all of the people who say NASCAR is just a bunch of left turns, you're wrong. While they do run mostly ovals, they also race on road courses from time-to-time. NASCAR has a road course race coming up in Watkins Glen, NY the first Sunday in August.
When is the Ford GT update coming?!
The lucky ones have already been announced.
+David Verbruggen lol, rob and salmonodrin didnt get and announced it
Nascar is an american sport so maybe this leads up to an american supercar (ford gt)
+whynow_whynot those NASCAR's are part of the 2016 Sprint cup series for like two or three years ago
Only thing I can say today: Yes or No!? Ford GT news tomorrow...
Proper race car ... Gears! Noise! No ECU! No traction control! Raw POWER! Just you and the motor! NASCAR!!
Just for a reference as to how difficult NASCAR actually is. Juan Pablo Montoya had seven wins in F1 from 2001 to 2006, including a Monaco Grand Prix. In nine years of NASCAR Sprint Cup racing he only has two wins. I know it's hard to compare the two, but this just shows that NASCAR may not be as simple as it may seem.
8pjbh1996 nice example, JPM 255 races, only 2 wins, and people still thinking that's easy, what a lot of assholes.
I didn't know there are American stock cars in the United Kingdom. As someone who grew up with NASCAR here in the USA, I have to admit that this looks awesome!
It's a stock car, not a NASCAR. Smh I hate it when people do that
Well Listen Here
1. Don’t Judge people when they say NASCAR You just mad They can say whatever they want to
Saturn The Gas Giant NASCAR is the association, would you call an f1 car an f1
Lil Switch no and it’s a Indy Car
But good Point
Whats the difference???
Glad you were able to have the experience even though it is significantly less powerful than the actual race cars were at the time that they ran. I guess they don't want anyone smacking the wall at 190 mph and hurting themselves. For those that are not familiar with NASCAR cars, the entire car starts as a custom built tubular chassis on to which they fasten custom rolled steel body panels mimicking a current at the time production vehicle. There are templates that the car has to fit into in order to qualify, meaning that the body has to follow specific guidelines for height, width and length as well as shape.
The engines are custom built and usually are 355 CI (5.8 liters). The heads alone cost over 10k to machine and setup. The engine is normally aspirated V8 with single overhead cam and one spark plug per cylinder. Some of the circuits require a restrictor plate between the carb and the intake to limit the max airflow going into the intake. The only thing that could be considered computer controlled would possibly be a rev limiter to keep heavy right feet from blowing the engine.
Now, they run with electronic fuel injection.
I was lucky enough to have a similar experience in some hot laps on the passenger seat of a NASCAR race car without helmet, there was a big hole in the firewall between me and the tire and all de rock chips of the circuit went directly to my face. One of the best experiences of my life.
That was Danica Patrick's car no wonder the window was so small lol
Ethan Carter if it was Danica Patrick’s car, it would have been totaled lmao
We did this for my dad on Father's day and it was a BLAST!!! Our track was Talladega. I achieved the fastest speed in the group I ran in for the day (slowest group) of 162.84 mph. Looks like you had as much fun as I did!
*Did you get an email about the Ford GT yet?*
Salomondrin and sparky didn't but lamborghininks did
Salomondrin and sparky didn't but lamborghininks did
Lamborghiniks didn't
Neither did Rob Ferretti
do you know which mofo got one??? captainsparkelz
Shmee touched on it but its worth noting that these are the lower end of NASCAR series cars. The top series features decals for the newer models and in the past have run average laps @ 212 mph on some tracks. They also handle better than you think they do. 2 road corses are part of the season and they run lap times that would rival some of the best cars out there. The best part about NASCAR is how raw it is. It's the most driver oriented series out here. No magnetic dampers, no power steering, no dual clutch transmissions. Just driver, wheel, and motor. And 200 mpg at 1+g going hard into a corner 3 wide with 1 inch between cars is intense.
Tim, I have to say, seeing you casual down your appearance with a T-shirt and your hair looking somewhat spiked when you excited the car for the last time really made a nice change.
nascar tips:
For curve turns go low to prevent tire marbles
In flat road stay right but try to avoid a crash if happens
Pit stop Speed: 35mph
its better to beat a pace car if a crash or a big one happened
Thats all
The pit speed changes depending on the track
Theres tracks that you dont have to always go low in. For example, darlington. The fastest line is the highline.
That American guy actually didn't mind being on camera.. Normally Europeans are quiet on camera when Shmee points it at them! Love it
Well, this video was a surprise. If they offer it, or when you come state side, should run them in a pack. The noise and bumper to bumper racing is pretty intense. Much better than solo runs.
It's called a Stock Car, not a NASCAR.
NASCAR
What's the difference
Rashune Knight it’s like calling a football player an NFL
6:17 That is actually one of Danica's arca cars, just re made as a newer monte carlo and with some sprint cup stickers on it.
The car at 13:25 has the livery like the Tom Cruise car in "Days of Thunder" !! Good memories ^^
your content just gets better. thanks tim
I guess I got a bit of this Nascar feeling now, thank you for this presentation, great opportunity
content getting better and better. love this channel. good man
This is my favourite racetrack in the UK! It's amazing
Really enjoying all of these new videos Shmee! It's just so awesome to see you experience all of these new things! This is what makes your channel superior at the moment in terms of content!!! Sick !!!
+freepieanchips what the fuck are you even trying to say
+freepieanchips No, sick is not a term used by 5 year olds to describe something good
***** There you go
Cannot wait for the 675LT and the all of the other 3 additions!
THANKS TIM AND CREW
Next Video: Why I'm selling my Focus RS
not really.
Tom I've seen you all over TH-cam!
Proper race car ... Gears! Noise! No ECU! No traction control! Raw POWER! Just you and the motor! NASCAR!!
Did this with the rusty Wallace experience a few years ago it was awesome to say the least
Awesome video. As a huge NASCAR fan, i loved this video, i use to go to Rockingham all the time to watch these race, & i have a used NASCAR tyre in my garden that i bought back that now has a plant growing in it :)
I also did the NASCAR fan experience. I enjoyed it very much. I did not drive however. Getting in and out was interesting for me especially because I am in a wheelchair. But overall I really enjoyed it. Hope you did too. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Tom cruise's racecar from day of thunder at 13:33?????
thought I was the only one that noticed. It's just the paint scheme though, not even the correct body style.
i was thinking that for a second i thought "Cole Trickle" was a real person but i was misled :(
Yes kurt busch raced it a while ago, he also did the cougar car Ricky Bobby drove in Talledega nights
That is not the shell used in the Xfinity series. The current cars for Sprint and Xfinity look much newer. The green car you drove is currently used in ARCA I believe. The Brian Vickers car and Carl Edwards cars are old Xfinity cars.
The real nascar drivers have balls of steel IMHO. They drive on the limit in such close quarters and numbers at huge speeds. All credit to them. Nutters.
Hard work pays off, keep doing your thing man!
Driving a Nascar, check that one off the bucket list.
Hope you get to see a race in person . The noise is incredible.
Awesome content as always!
Wow it's insane how close to the wall they go!
You should Drive an LMP1....
Say what?
Or LMP2 or 3
I don't he'd be brave enough to go fast enough to even get the aero working. And neither would I!
This is real skill driving. The real cars have 800+HP
And skills....
Maybe next time you can get your hands on a true 800+ hp NASCAR! Good starting point though! Glad you enjoyed the experience!
I am impressed with your knowledge of Nascar! Glad you got to experience some american racing.
@Shmee150 Great video Tim!! The REAL NASCAR CAR used to be 800 HP, was downgraded to 725 HP. The races are incredibly exciting even though turning left, left, left becomes somewhat monotonous, the NASCAR Tracks in the USA have banked corners which are needed to keep the cars on the track while going through the corners at 150 - 180 MPH!!!!! Way to go👍👍👍👍 Very excited to see you have that opportunity!!!!!!! LARRY from 🇨🇦👍👍👍👍👍👍
You should also try out NHRA Top Fuel Dragsters the next time you are in the US or if they have it in Europe. 10,000+ bhp, 0-60 mph in less than one second, 1,000 feet in 3+ seconds in excess of 300 mph.
But you probably know all that.
"Cole Trickle" on that car....awesome 😄
I've been in a nascar too, so amazing good to see you do it shmee
Tim it's a bit better to see the view out of the windscreen than from within the car to get a feel for what's happening. Thanks for sharing :)
Hey Tim, thought I'd take a trip backwards in time and watch a few old videos. I found this one which I forgot about. Have you revisited these monsters since this video? I did the ride along on the "Tricky Triangle" at Pocono Raceway in Pennsylvania. It's a bit different than a typical oval. They also do super car rides/drives there. In addition, they have a kart racing experience. My son has done some karting and drove the course at Pocono. Anyway, it was fun taking a look back. Maybe you'll take a trip "across the pond" in 2018! Have a Happy New Year. Looking forward to some Porsche videos soon! Take care.....
This one of my dreams.
Great channel.
Love NASCAR plain and simple.
If you're ever in the US check out the Richard Petty Experience where you drive Nascars but might experience racing with other vehicles chasing and racing against you.
"DAYS OF THUNDER" Tom cruise -No.46 Cole Trickle rubbing is racing .......... awesome film
you should have asked some more questions: gears, engine, transmission, drag, downforce, g-force in the corners, topspeed,
its like he is always competing to do the best things with cars, just be humble shmee and enjoy the moment. Great video though!
Hi Shmee! If your doing all these different kind of motorsports? Why don't you head to Santa Pod race way and have ago in the two seater Top Methanol Dragster?? It is one hell of an experience, I have don't it my self, and you will like 168-185mph in like 8 seconds!!! Please please please go and try this out! Amazing experience!!!!
awesome video tim .. keep it up man... good job
sould go to a nascar race at Bristol, Tenn. a great nascar race to try the sport
THE WIND NOISE IS REAL!!
yeah Shmee, Welcome to America lol. That mans explanation of what you'll be doing was priceless 😂😂😂
love the proper pics at the end of your vids now shmee🖒🖒
Tim have you not seen Days of Thunder?
You were standing next to Cole Trickles car, the City 46 that was green and yellow.
Im sure you could go to America and rive and actual sprint cup series car. They're really good about letting press do stuff like that.
So, having driven in a Formula one style car on a Formula one style circuit and now having driven a NASCAR vheicle on a NASCAR style circuit, what one do you thing is better? I personally think that they're both equally amazing.
I've seen many nascars. From the Daytona 500 these cars are like mustang/camaro/camary GT3S but I've never seen anything like this before
I really got emotional by knowing that Danica Patrick actually drove that car.. wow!
ROCKING AT ROCKINGHAM!!!
I thought those V8s made 800 HP, must be detuned.
Older cars as well
yeah think so
Those one are the olds one not the new ones thats becouse they make 500hp and not 800+ hp
This car has the nascar 900hp 9000rpm motor removed and I guess has a run of the mill 500hp motor. The engines are usually owned by the engine builder.
So it's not really the same car as the the guy said it is
I gut driven around the infield at rockingham in a lotus and my mum drove a Ferrari 360
Now I want to watch "Days of Thunder"!
I see your Focus RS in the background
It was cool to see the #46 city Chevrolet from the movie Days of thunder. LOL
SHAKE n' BAKE!
funny how i watched NASCAR for the first time yesterday on tv. Now this xD
such a coincidence
NASCAR is the best in muscle car sound. Well, to me it IS
At 5:44 the car from days of thunder is there
They make around 900 hp in america, how did the car lose 400 hp on the way over on the boat?
Brand New your stupid as fuck. You just not know anything about these trainer card
Did the car actually feel fast though. I suppose noise adds to the excitement but maybe deceptive. Cheers.
+Shmee150 It's cool to see that you got to drive a stock car (NASCAR). Perhaps you'll get a chance to drive a stock car that is not limited.
I was wondering, You were "suited and booted" into your racegear, but when you are entering the car on your own, you don't have your sparco race shoes on, why is that?
Shmee do you know why he has 2nd hand stock cars? They need to be rebuilt after every race that's why they are so simple. Those are toast beat up loud and slow. By that I mean too much previous mechanical stress.
Good Man Tim.... broaden the scope of Automotive knowledge
It's a stock car or a nascar racecar ,NASCAR is the association but super cool ecpecialy in rockingham
I hate it when people call it a NASCAR
Its actually the shell in the arca series not the exfininty
Was it your Ford Focus RS in the background 11.50?
Yes :)
Nice stuff!
When it comes to motorsport America have it nailed
Lolololol
Strange how close steering wheel is to drivers chest. Seems a bit dangerous if crash :)
Guys cmon, we know its Nascar and it can be boring because its just left turns, but dont forget that is a 500hp car, light and with more or less a straight pipe. Everything is shaking and noisy and fuel smell, so must be a nice experience. also really fast
were you selected to buy the Ford GT?
I went here and done this. They have a 2 seater formula 1 car as well.
the list of those getting the Ford GT is known
do ya get 1 of the 500?
Only thing I can say today: Yes or No!? Ford GT news tomorrow...
Of course he is getting a Ford GT after all he did give the Ford Motor Company an 12 minute free ad for the Ford Focus RS!
ohh yeee
+Faby Baby Jordan (the youtuber you're speaking of) is low key a car guy, he just doesn't have a channel based on cars.
who is this TH-camR
+Shmee150 they are tricky to get in and out of, but they are even tricker to handle
Why don't you get one of the last model Ford GT, great car and also great investment. That will for sure get you in good with Ford and you can find some with no mileage on them.
For the record, they do, on occasion, run on "road tracks" that involve making right turns lol
watkins glen and sonoma (infineon) twice each season.
did you get the Response From Ford for the Ford GT?
Tim, was this a better experience than driving the LaFerrari?
I so need to do this!