The Top 10 Players WITHOUT a Ring

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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Who do you think is the greatest ringless player??
    SPOILER NOTE: I forgot to include the honorable mentions list in the video, so these are them listed below….
    HONORABLES:
    Dominique Wilkins
    Tracy McGrady
    Russell Westbrook
    Reggie Miller
    Bernard King
    Vince Carter
    Luka Doncic
    Shawn Kemp
    Bob Lanier
    Dave Bing
    Pete Maravich
    Joel Embiid
    Nate Thurmond
    Damian Lillard
    Chris Webber
    Dikembe Mutombo
    Alex English
    Artis Gilmore
    Lenny Wilkens
    Walt Bellamy
    Adrian Dantley
    Jimmy Butler

    • @PER578
      @PER578 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Personally, Allen overspend deserves to be in the top 5. He at least made a finals appearance compared to the other guys ahead of him and he has comparable accolades. Also his moment in game 1 against the lakers is way more impactful than what u give him credit for

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      HARDEN not better than anyone on this list...
      IVERSON EWING GERVIN NASH all better than him..
      HARDEN just a cheater who got help from D.MORREY RIGGED refs who call everything a foul..he was travelling 20 times a game and having 20 FT a game..one of the less inneficient players ever with the ball...the fact that you put him ahead of LEGENDS like NASH EWING GERVIN and IVERSON just proves THIS GENERATION of FANS has no KNOWLEDGE at all...

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      when you made this i already knew your lack of knowledge and recent bias would put CP3 and HARDEN on this list...

    • @frankcloutier5495
      @frankcloutier5495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I completely agree with Barley at #1
      👌
      I despise Harden and watching his games never made me want to play like him so I see him as a bad player
      I would've picked Reggie Miller much ahead of him. The poor guy just had to run into Jordan and then the Malice robbed him of another shot at it. But the guy was a Baller! (Yes with a capital B lol)

    • @sidjones16
      @sidjones16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A. I. was a horrible percentage shooter. He had scoring titles because there was absolutely no one else to give the ball to in Philly.
      Harden being on this list is a joke. Dude just had to have ONE all time game and Houston would've beat a healthy KD Warriors. The team everyone claims is so great. He doesn't have another gear after the regular season.
      The league robbed Nash in 07. They robbed _____ by giving his MVP to Nash in 05.
      Baylor should be #1. He had to face a real superteam in Boston.
      Barkley #2 had Ceballos not been hurt he might have beat MJ. The real greatest PF ever.
      Ewing #3 Hakeem's help showed up on 94
      He got hurt in 99 when he actually had talent around him.
      If injuries or the league didn't robbed you of a shot/ring, then I wouldn't have them on the list. Or Id have said player at the bottom.
      CP3#4.
      Number 5 is a tie.
      Chris Webber and Melo! Nobody even talks about them when naming players or positions.
      Reggie#6 they got 2 games vs Shaq and Kobe with their second best player playing on one good foot.
      Stockton and Malone #7 & 8 (interchangeable)
      Malone chocked. Stockton wasn't that singular franchise talent. MVPs and all time lists respectively got them on the list.
      9 & 10.....
      Derrick Rose and Grant Hill.

  • @bladefox5082
    @bladefox5082 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    Maybe you could do a top 10 players without an MVP video. That would definitely be a good watch.

    • @carlpacquing2575
      @carlpacquing2575 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Definitely a great idea!

    • @MarkGreathouse-l9q
      @MarkGreathouse-l9q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@bladefox5082 Jerry West, number 1 on my list.

    • @kenjones2181
      @kenjones2181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MarkGreathouse-l9qThought West would’ve had at least one

    • @derekfnord
      @derekfnord 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MarkGreathouse-l9q Yep. Came here to post this. Number one spot is already set. 🙂

    • @ijulius98
      @ijulius98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      good idea

  • @jk8190
    @jk8190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Chuck is absurdly underrated. People either forget or don't know that he could score 30+ points against Jordan and Pippen. That says a lot. If he didn't shot so many three point shots he could be one of the most efficient scorers in his era

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He got caught up in the great MJ era like three others on the list!! What does that really say a/b him🤔....... 6RINGZ!!

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Barkley just couldn't win no matter what

    • @august6281
      @august6281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and he was being guarded by a same size PF Grant

    • @bohanxu6125
      @bohanxu6125 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He is still one of the most efficient scorers in his era, despite shooting threes. Actually his efficiency is great in not just his era, but in all era.

    • @ozleyva779
      @ozleyva779 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      so true chuck is so underated

  • @genuinebrendan
    @genuinebrendan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    It’s a good list, but I would’ve only included the players who have officially retired as there’s always a possibility it can age poorly if James Harden or Chris Paul get a ring.

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      HARDEN and CP3 shouldnt even be on this list...most overrated players ever

    • @genuinebrendan
      @genuinebrendan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      @@onlyfacts3178 Ok that’s just wrong lol. If they never win a ring they’re properly placed on this list.

    • @matebakk5187
      @matebakk5187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@onlyfacts3178 For Harden I can kinda agree, but CP3 made every team he played on better.

    • @RigdonF
      @RigdonF 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@@matebakk5187 Harden is one of the greatest scorers of all time.

    • @nevohyams
      @nevohyams 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@onlyfacts3178 you're only saying that since they're modern day players

  • @darkomill1261
    @darkomill1261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    Happy to see Chuck at no.1, he was amazing as a player and worthy of that spot.

    • @andresdelportillo9917
      @andresdelportillo9917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ewing over Chuck

    • @darkomill1261
      @darkomill1261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andresdelportillo9917 Fair argument, Ewing unfortunately happen to play with the "big boys". It was hard being a center in that age, a lot of the best in his era on that position. Tough tbh. But yes, a monster(in a good way).
      I'm still with Chuck thou ✌️😎.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@darkomill12614 of the 10 players got caught up in the great MJ era🥺!! What does that really say a/b him 🤔...... 6RINGZ!!

    • @darkomill1261
      @darkomill1261 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ReverendSam1 says that MJ is the G.O.A.T.
      Sorry Lebron fans. MJ took a lot of rings from other cats.
      In other eras(excluding the late great Bill) everyone was eating in their prime 😉.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@darkomill1261 NTM the great MJ didn't share his "prime" w/another player.....like '10-'19 Steph/lebron 🤔!!

  • @brettreynolds1976
    @brettreynolds1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Westbrook deserves to be on this list. And not just an honorable mention.

    • @getabuck
      @getabuck 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i mean who knows he might can still win one his career ain’t over just yet

    • @brettreynolds1976
      @brettreynolds1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@getabuck You can say the same for guys like Harden and CP3, yet they’re on this list.

    • @Says_me
      @Says_me 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Problem is… there is only 10 spots. Who would you bump from the list?

    • @brettreynolds1976
      @brettreynolds1976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Says_me Depends on how you feel about Baylor’s honorary ring. If you count it, then you’d have to drop him. Otherwise, it’s a really tough call. I’d probably lean toward Gervin, if we’re not counting his ABA accomplishments. But either way, I think Westbrook should comfortably be in the 5 - 7 range on a list like this.

  • @kidd3205mvp
    @kidd3205mvp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Barkley was so good!! On the Suns he lost to Bulls in finals. Lost to Houston who won, Lost to Utah,Sonics who lost to Bulls. He was right there every year. He tore the Bulls up in 93 Finals. Prob was he was playing peak Jordan. If paxson doesn’t hit that shot,it goes to game 7.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Tore up the bulls" 🤨, the were down 3 to 1 going to game 5😐!! 4 of the 10 players got caught up in the great MJ era, what does that really say a/b him🤔....... 6RINGZ!!

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly.
      Played the best version of Jordan on the best Bulls team and only barely lost. If he just stopped shooting as many threes….

  • @thrillhill5257
    @thrillhill5257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Was waiting for Elgin Baylor. Real ones know. Great vid Johnny, I’m with you on the list. Barkley such a solid player at the 1 spot

  • @hidvegizo
    @hidvegizo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely great list! You forgot to mention the small fact, that Charles Barkley has the most seasons in NBA history with 10+ rebounds per game:)

  • @kingdeedee
    @kingdeedee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Barkley at number 1 is perfect in my opinion. He's been doing TV so long now people forget he's one of the most influential players in NBA history. We always talk about LeBron being an evolution of Magic, but I argue there's really no LeBron if there's no Chuck.

    • @ReverendSam1
      @ReverendSam1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Barkley was a monster on the glass & no one really mentions his first step!! He like 3 other players on the list got caught up in the great MJ era, what does that really say a/b him....... 6RINGZ!!

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Charles didn’t exactly play like LeBron, but he was the most dominant one in the 90’s who didn’t win, and the best player who didn’t win a ring OAT

    • @kingdeedee
      @kingdeedee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jonathan-A.C. yeah their approach to the half-court are especially different since Chuck was all about the post up and LeBron does a bit of everything depending on the matchup. Perhaps a result of Chuck’s era though because their general skillsets are more similar than people seemingly want to acknowledge (maybe because they seemingly don’t like each other in real life lol). Both are undersized rim running PFs with surprisingly good handles. In today’s era Chuck definitely would’ve gotten more touches at the top of the key especially with all the spacing. No doubt he would’ve developed the playmaker gene to make it work too

  • @owensmith2137
    @owensmith2137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    John Stockton played a full season 17 times including the lockout year!

  • @Dwcdash
    @Dwcdash 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Brother I ain’t finished the video (you should be in tv). But ngl you should be in tv. You’re honest, and just come across as a good guy. Also ppl who are honest would get a lot of clicks from both the new and old generation of ball
    For content creators; you’re easily in my top 5
    [Numbers in the board, the deep three (silly fellas) and some gaming is the other parts of top 5)
    But you are easily the most honest and least bias. For someone who got into ball right after the 3-1 comeback a lot of my opinions have changed. Hope you continue to grow and reach the polarized ppl so there’s real discussion
    Yea I’m glazing.
    Edit: I didn’t say it. But I do love that you give NBA history better than anyone I watch

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s why he’s on a better platform to do what he does
      Edit: Also that’s not glazing at all. You’re being honest with your opinion and complimenting him

  • @silvianosanchez8430
    @silvianosanchez8430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Jonny, I am a long-time follower, and I mostly agree with your takes. But this time, you took it to a different level. This list is perfect!

  • @brauprx
    @brauprx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Honorable mentions: Reggie Miller, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady.

    • @edgarmoran5203
      @edgarmoran5203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Westbrook

    • @averyce2
      @averyce2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Reggie should replace James HArden or Chris Paul.

    • @paksta
      @paksta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Pistol Pete too.

    • @mfleet1973
      @mfleet1973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Dominique Wilkins

    • @andresdelportillo9917
      @andresdelportillo9917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah Reggie had chances he choked though

  • @aggroshaolin4910
    @aggroshaolin4910 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Putting Harden over Iverson or Ewing is ridiculous.

    • @Maximillian200HP
      @Maximillian200HP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Agreed, Harden is one of the most overrated players ever. Dude's scoring went off a cliff when they changed the rules for what was considered "Contact". His scoring was very heavily dependent on Free-throws.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@Maximillian200HP regular season stat stuffer. Make sure to get those extra 6 points and 2 assists in those blowout games.

    • @PizzaTime727
      @PizzaTime727 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Downright criminal. Skewed towards scoring when Ewing and Iverson playeed both ends hard.

    • @ericstratton7961
      @ericstratton7961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts 💯‼️‼️

    • @HishamElite
      @HishamElite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ewing sure Iverson no. Iverson was similar to harden. He averaged more ft than harden, was less efficient, not as good of a scorer

  • @aVanGeLz07
    @aVanGeLz07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    In my opinion it's much better to only include retired players in this list.
    Active players can still win a ring.

    • @kingdeedee
      @kingdeedee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      James Harden is never winning a ring but other than him fair point

  • @davengeance4811
    @davengeance4811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Sir Charles 😤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @dharmeshp.5565
    @dharmeshp.5565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great freaking list and definitely VERY difficult for anyone to argue your overall top 10. Maybe they can argue the order you listed but not the ten players. Amen

    • @reillyhopf6508
      @reillyhopf6508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think 9 of them are definite, but I think Wilkins or Miller should be in over Gervin.

    • @dharmeshp.5565
      @dharmeshp.5565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reillyhopf6508 Reggie yes!!!! Man I promise I was thinking about him as well. It's difficult to come up with 10

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe the order of the list to some small degree, yeah

    • @dharmeshp.5565
      @dharmeshp.5565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jonathan-A.C. 💯

  • @viperstrike0
    @viperstrike0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    90s is a graveyard of greats who are ringless.

    • @stavrospavlides2093
      @stavrospavlides2093 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You're right, it's almost like something got in their way. Wonder what it could have been? Meanwhile the Lebron era is a graveyard of superteams and graveyard of greats with short primes who all seem to fall apart the minute they team up with the King. More stars have rings though, because Lebron has never even sniffed a hint of MJ's dominance.
      And in true clownyclown fashion, the Nick Wrights of the world tell us with a straight face that MJ's total curb-stomping of the competition proves 90s NBA was weak and MJ's two three-peats are actually worse than 3.5 superteam chips. That's right, Lebron stans are actually saying 4>6. I guess counting has also been canceled? These same ppl will also argue that Heatles Wade was over the hill in 2012-2014, or that Kevin Love does not make a big three with Kyrie and Lebron, or that AD is not top-10, or that Russell Westbrook is a toxic teammate. Hah!

    • @leobates945
      @leobates945 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stavrospavlides2093lebron better than Jordan tho🥱🥱

    • @stavrospavlides2093
      @stavrospavlides2093 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@leobates945 cool story, bro. So anyways the problem with Lebron fans isn't that I disagree with them, it's that they have no idea just how incredibly wrong they are. Like falt-earther-level wrong. I've followed Lebron's whole career, and if you think that's the best player of all time then you actually hate basketball.
      A vote for Lebron is a vote against basketball

    • @leobates945
      @leobates945 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stavrospavlides2093 idk abt any falt earth but i do know that jorbum would get trounced by the 07 cavs purely due to legoat.

    • @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
      @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow the ridiculous arrogance of LeBron fans is hysterical 😂

  • @harbour08
    @harbour08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great list
    I hate the "he never won a ring" trope i used to hear growing up in the 90s/00s. Appreciate greatness while we can

  • @Anonymityfan
    @Anonymityfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome video Johnny. I think another great video would be best losing finals performances

  • @arnegebhardt2209
    @arnegebhardt2209 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Barkley avg: 28&12 on 60% is absolute INSANE

  • @leptonparticle238
    @leptonparticle238 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4 out of 10 players on the list are just unlucky to play in Jordan's era

  • @kevinhouse4376
    @kevinhouse4376 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is a great list. I definitely believe you got the top two right, although I might have put Baylor over Barkley. And I love that you included Bob Lanier and Nate Thurmond, two of the most underrated players in NBA history, in your honorable mentions.

    • @dewanewelch1744
      @dewanewelch1744 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Baylor accepted his ring but if he didn't then yes I have Elgin over Barkley also.

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      finally someone who gets it!

  • @colinbranscombe4825
    @colinbranscombe4825 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Whoa..... where's Dominique Wilkins?

    • @dennuson4568
      @dennuson4568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love DOMINIQUE but who player should you replace ?

  • @brandonhall4547
    @brandonhall4547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I I love this list and would love to see you expand it this way:
    Re-rank this list based on who you would start a franchise with based on most to least likely to win a ring. Along with the kind of team you’d build around them with modern players you’d pair either them.

  • @NewGen7988
    @NewGen7988 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video, Jonny. It just shows how much of a force of nature Jordan was in his championship winning days.

  • @AdarshPaulVarghese
    @AdarshPaulVarghese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Whoa a minute after he posted it. That's so epic

  • @alex4833
    @alex4833 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video, Jonny! It's not easy to pick just 10 and rank them. While there are some who I think should be included, but weren't on this list (like McGrady and Miller), I think you have a solid and well-argued list. I especially like how you included Ewing. I don't hear about him as often, but I agree that he was a great center and one of the best. I also like your arguments for Charles Barkley. He was a smaller PF (I heard he might actually be 6'4) but he was incredible. He was tough and an excellent rebounder and hard to stop.
    Great video again :). Are you posting daily now? Curious bc of videos from Thurs-Sat :)
    Have a great day!

  • @Purlypurlington
    @Purlypurlington 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your number one. jonny you been that man for years. i always say hes better than 32 but no one agrees

  • @almamiranda301
    @almamiranda301 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is common knowledge why these great players were ringless Jonny! thanks for this great video.

  • @larryruecker9320
    @larryruecker9320 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the humbleness of Baylor, he could have taken a ring from the Lakers offer. But he said no i wasn't on that championship team. You just can't find someone like that today.
    I like the list, but I would agree with a lot of people on here, i would sub out Harden for Reggie!

  • @averyce2
    @averyce2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Very Good List. But you gotta drop James Harden for Reggie Miller.

    • @GHOST91141
      @GHOST91141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree

    • @Jakezimms1990
      @Jakezimms1990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was looking for this. Reggie was always hitting big shots, whereas harden thrived in the season and disappears in big moments. Plus, Reggie stuck it out in Indy through turmoil while James creates turmoil wherever he goes.

    • @Fayn757
      @Fayn757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      are you sick ? Reggie Miller is not on the same planet as James Harden when it’s comes to basketball 😂😂😂😂

    • @Jakezimms1990
      @Jakezimms1990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      James harden might be a better scorer- but he only operates with iso or a high pick and roll. Shooting wise Reggie is better- if he would have taken the sheer volume of 3s that harden has taken his scoring would be close as well. Reggie wasn’t a great defender but he def gets the nod due to harden being lazy and a liability. Clutch time miller is miles ahead. Where exactly does harden make up all that ground? He lived on ticky-tac fouls and wouldn’t last in the tough era.

    • @mrjermz5406
      @mrjermz5406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Jakezimms1990 Reggie is extremely one dimensional even on offense. Harden is possibly the most versatile scorer in history with an arsenal of moves and shots. He also was a dominant facilitator when Reggie is a black hole on offense.

  • @michael-paulware7330
    @michael-paulware7330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Does Elgin Baylor count or naw?

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      To me, Elgin counts as a player without a ring. Dude only played the first few games of that championship season before he retired, and then when the Lakers offered him a ring, he refused it anyway.

    • @michael-paulware7330
      @michael-paulware7330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@jonnyarnettI never knew he refused it.

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jonnyarnett i’ve always read that he accepted the ring. did he say he declined it?

    • @dewanewelch1744
      @dewanewelch1744 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jonnyarnett I always heard he got the ring because he played thay season.

    • @musix3197
      @musix3197 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait people didn't know he declined the ring.

  • @hepwo91222
    @hepwo91222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    good list, but Karl Malone should be number 1 by far, 3rd all time leading scorer, 8th all time in rebounds, 13th in steals, 2 time MVP (1 beating out MJ), 3 Finals appearances, and his advanced metrics get even crazier while also being one of the most durable players year in and year out.

    • @Ansbach38383u
      @Ansbach38383u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Yeah, but it's karl Malone 💀

    • @matebakk5187
      @matebakk5187 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ansbach38383u Sadly that doesn't mean anything in this convo. He is a shit human being, but a great basketball player.

    • @Batx0123LOLXD
      @Batx0123LOLXD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Sussy Malone💀

    • @Yinon776
      @Yinon776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yeah, he is 13 in steals 🫢

    • @stevenmark4407
      @stevenmark4407 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@Ansbach38383uwhat he did off the court has nothing to do with what he did on court.

  • @OrangeSodaKing
    @OrangeSodaKing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video. Great list, and I won't make any arguments

  • @edwardbates2559
    @edwardbates2559 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What happened to the all time team 2k tournament?

  • @oldludwigdrummer6844
    @oldludwigdrummer6844 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Jonny. Your list is pretty accurate. Note: alot of these guys played in an era that included Magic, Jordan, and Kobe. Shout out to those guys. I wonder if MJ doesn't retire after the 93 season, is Akeem on this list?

  • @imjoker2823
    @imjoker2823 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Other video ideas
    Top 10 players that never made it to the Finals
    Top 10 players with the worst finals record
    Players who would have never won a ring if they stayed with their original team

  • @Squadwin
    @Squadwin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @jonnyarnett May I ask what the background music that you have is named? I can’t find it in the description.

  • @allo5668
    @allo5668 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was about to rage that Chuck wasn’t on the list, but instead I see Johnny honoured my boy accordingly

  • @benbutler9282
    @benbutler9282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AI above Harden - maybe I'm old? - but otherwise great content - love the Stockton Malone shoutout and agree re Barkley

  • @RyZGuy53
    @RyZGuy53 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Russ and Vince are the 2 top on the honorable mentions

  • @elijahmorris9864
    @elijahmorris9864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Although this is not my personal list, it’s a good one. For me whether you count Elgin Baylor is not having won a championship or as one time champion he’s at the top of either list for me.

    • @Momoman747
      @Momoman747 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has a ring from the 72 season so he shouldn't count

    • @elijahmorris9864
      @elijahmorris9864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Momoman747 ok then he’s is one of the best to have only one.

  • @Jojobuckets-d3f
    @Jojobuckets-d3f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pistols Pete's case is more tragic as he lost his life before actually getting his ring he so desperately wanted...it's depressing to think about

    • @Astrophro
      @Astrophro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pistol should definitely be on the short list here, but he was retired before his untimely death.

  • @christopherfoerstel9116
    @christopherfoerstel9116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this list… wish guys like TMac or Melo Anthony had the resume to join the list… maybe a new honorable mention or most entertaining follow up list?

  • @Momoman747
    @Momoman747 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a fantastic list! Only issue is with Barkley at number 1.

  • @josephwong2016
    @josephwong2016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with other commenters that this is a good video but needs to include only retired players. I would replace Harden and CP3 with Reggie Miller and Dominque Wilkins.

  • @Placid_Falcon
    @Placid_Falcon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:45 peter griffin if he dunk

  • @bathuusaranchimeg2711
    @bathuusaranchimeg2711 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Couldn’t become the first😢, still love your content❤

  • @user-mh6nm5mv4b
    @user-mh6nm5mv4b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel helps to cure my depression

  • @samfrazier5599
    @samfrazier5599 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun list and well done. I’m not going to be a hater, but I would suggest a few things. Reggie Miller should be on this list. He’s one of the greatest clutch players of all time. Also, I’d say any active player should not be eligible, so no James Harden. Highly debatable, but I’d probably put Chris Webber on the list as well. Had it not been for some very questionable officiating, which I believe you’ve addressed, he’d have a championship over an amazing Lakers team.

  • @GTkGaeT
    @GTkGaeT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first three position can be assigned randomly among Baylor, Barkley and Malone. I should have choosen Maravich too, maybe on top 5.

  • @jasongaines7284
    @jasongaines7284 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good list, T Mac, Westbrook, Reggie Miller definitely HM

  • @CorneliusMagnus
    @CorneliusMagnus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In my opinion to be considered top ringless players you need to at least reach NBA finals once.

    • @CorneliusMagnus
      @CorneliusMagnus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@penkima4923 😂 thanks so much for this clarification 😂 without it I would keep living not knowing I am bs-ing myself😂

  • @troyfew2373
    @troyfew2373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The active players should come off until they are retired; that way, you, Reggie Miller, and Dominique Wilkins could be added to the list

  • @MarkGreathouse-l9q
    @MarkGreathouse-l9q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm a Big Barkley fan, wtih that said, Baylor should have been number 1 on this list. The point you miss with Baylor is how many times he was in the finals. More than Barkley, Malone and Stockton combined. That speeks volumes.
    Good list overall.

  • @Solanegore
    @Solanegore หลายเดือนก่อน

    GREAT LIST....

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:50
    Reggie "The Knick Killer" enters the chat.
    The Knicks didn't get to meet the Bulls and MJ at least a couple times losing earlier in the playoffs to the Pacers.

  • @Historicutuber
    @Historicutuber 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good to see Nash up here man

  • @jakemurphy3352
    @jakemurphy3352 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You were right I haven’t gotten past Elgin yet and I’ll eat my words if he ends up being 1 on the list but I’m assuming Chuck is gonna be number 1. The fact that Dominique Wilkins isn’t on this list is absurd. He is the most underrated player of all time at this point. If he came into the nba right now it would be him and jokic as the top player. He was overshadowed by the Celtics than the bulls but make no mistake that man was a killer

  • @captainswagalicious
    @captainswagalicious 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know on the court Malone was trouble but I just wish we could at least put a permanent asterisks beside his name for reasons, I could name about 13 of them. For the sake of keeping it factual I say include it but you GOTTA mention that massive disclaimer as to why people might not rank him so highly. We can’t just act like it didn’t happen.

    • @freddieadams8435
      @freddieadams8435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Definitely needs a "great player BUT" everytime he's brought up.

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean maybe just say it like “and here’s the PF on the Jazz…..moving onto the next player,”

    • @cobra7282
      @cobra7282 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He may be/have been a terrible person, but it has no bearing on how good of a basketball player he was.

  • @dwightburns6699
    @dwightburns6699 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somehow I knew you'd have Malone after John Stockton great list love your vids

  • @kidlatkidlat3108
    @kidlatkidlat3108 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice list Bro, for me i will take AI at number 7 spot instead of Patrick Ewing and at number 10 is Regie Miller!👌🙏

  • @cekspree
    @cekspree 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should've shown more clips of the insane dunks Chris Paul & Allen Iverson have done...i bet newbies see Chris Paul with Wemby these days & have no idea of the springs he used to have💯

  • @shannonadkinsmusic5767
    @shannonadkinsmusic5767 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a good list. I'd have Ewing ahead of Paul. Not being biased, but most of the great players of the last 15-20 have gotten to eat at the table. That wasn't true in the 80s-90s, so the list should and does reflect that.

  • @frankcloutier5495
    @frankcloutier5495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone tell me if there is a stat tracking the shooting percentage of the people getting passes from a specific player?
    Meaning, what were the percentages of the people receiving passes from Nash, Kidd, Stockton (or any other notable passer)
    That would be really cool to know to compare with their regular averages. I feel like that's the ultimate goal for any PG (traditional PG); create the best possible shot within a given offense

  • @ktapreswreckd921v9
    @ktapreswreckd921v9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great point on Barkley.

  • @iraelliott8936
    @iraelliott8936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny I was curious about the honorable mentions until I saw your comment

  • @GolumTR
    @GolumTR หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be interesting to do a top 10 players with exactly one ring and see which squad is better.

  • @estebanceron3242
    @estebanceron3242 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First, thanks for these videos, they're always awesome. I'd only change Harden for Pistol Pete "Maravich" or maybe Nate Thurmond. I say this because even in his best days, Harden always choked in the playoffs and he's always been lazy as f... for defense. Otherwise, I love your list

  • @kamahhl
    @kamahhl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great list - I'd say CP3 over Stockton, that's it

  • @RickM23
    @RickM23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Luka Doncic at the thumbnail though. 25 years old, going into his 7th season. Some players start their career at that age and the dude is already a Hall of famer.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hope he wins a championship, but if he doesn't, he'll almost certainly be number 1 on this list by the time he's done.

    • @RickM23
      @RickM23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonnyarnett The next 5 years will be crucial to his legacy. It is fun watching him take over playoff games though (Suns and TWolves), it has been a while since I’ve seen a player do that to a team.

  • @cgerman
    @cgerman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was a huge Charles Barkley fan but I was a little let down when the Suns lost to the Rockets AGAIN in 1995 despite being up 3-1 in the series. I guess Charles was just not championship material.

  • @mickeylee2624
    @mickeylee2624 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good list with nearly all deserving of inclusion (except one-way/FT baiting Flopper/constant traveling Harden).
    However, I think the top 4 is debatable considering their supporting casts. Quality teammates (HoF/2+ AS/2+ DPoY) for 2+ seasons while said teammates were in/near their respective primes:
    - Barkley: HoF's Cheeks, Erving, Bobby Jones, and Hakeem, 3x AS Kevin Johnson, 3x AS Majerle
    - Baylor: HoF's West, Chamberlain, and Dick Barnett, 5x AS Rudy LaRusso, 2x AS Frank Selvy
    - Mailman/Stockton: HoF Stockton, 2x AS Jeff Malone (though it was 4 seasons removed from his last AS), 2x DPOY Eaton
    While Barkley's peak was probably the most dominant of the 4 during which he was without a stellar running mate (vs. Baylor's West/Chamberlain or Mailman/Stockton), he still played with quality teammates for a significant chunk of his early career in Philly and mid/late-prime with the Suns as well as a still good Olajuwon in Houston. While Malone and Stockton get the same pass as Barkley or Ewing for having to play against the 3 greatest players ever (MJ #1, Dream or Bird), Mailman and Stockton were more complete end-to-end players with greater longevity versus Barkley who had arguably had comparably little depth of help necessary for a non-Olajuwon/MJ/Jokic to win a title.
    Therefore, after factoring circumstances, I would put Malone #1 (since he was beared more of the burden to score, rebound, and defend than Stockton), Barkley #2, Stockton #3 (yes, weird considering he had Malone, but he is debatably the top 1-3 PG ever factoring in teammates), and Baylor #4. West would have been in the same situation as Baylor but happened to remain healthy during that famous 71-72 title run.

  • @ktapreswreckd921v9
    @ktapreswreckd921v9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jonny, i noticed that you seemed to have a habit of forgetting about The Human Highlight Fiim. Reggie was also missing.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phew, that's a difficult list to make. When I saw some of the honorable mentions it's quite difficult to not have some of them in that list. I am also not sure about Barkley being at the top of the list, I don't think he was consistent enough for that.

  • @evanclp514
    @evanclp514 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i 100% agree with Barkley being #1. i have him around 14-15 all-time on my list and i think he's clearly the best to never win a championship. he was amazing. he just was unlucky to run into the GOAT in the finals. i would move Iverson up a bit - maybe swap with Nash.

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:34 and 8:10
    Technically, Elgin DOES have a ring - 1972 Lakers gave him one, even though he did not play in the playoffs that year (he retired about 9 games into the regular season) - seems to have been a "we can do this, you're getting rewarded for your long time VERY high performance" ring.

  • @AustinMulkaMusic
    @AustinMulkaMusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My list is pretty much the same but I put Chris Paul above Stockton.

  • @marcobattiston1702
    @marcobattiston1702 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with the names involved, not the ranking.

  • @gregd806
    @gregd806 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:53 2 hakeem clips, or did D ROBINSON Play or am I missing something?
    I do love the video though. Thank you for giving love to Iverson.

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gratitude.
    Peace to Dominique Wilkins , Sydney Moncrief, Bernard King and Shawn Kemp and Tim Hardaway.

  • @cantpleasonist
    @cantpleasonist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:13 and 2004.

  • @johndebono1870
    @johndebono1870 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only switch I would make is Reggie Miller over James Harden. I know the stats don't totally back it up, but I take into account that I feel like you can trust him in those big playoff moments in a way you never really could with Harden.

  • @DoakFelix-qr8uw
    @DoakFelix-qr8uw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dantley, Maravich, Bing, Thurmond, Wilkins, King are guys to throw in the mix.

  • @DHGamerMR
    @DHGamerMR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn shame that Barkley didn't get to the Sixers until 84. A couple years earlier and he would have gotten a ring on that '83 team, possibly even go back to back in '84.

  • @taylordunekacke5784
    @taylordunekacke5784 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you imagine if Barkley played with Stockon what his stats would be??

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would have been disgusting. Something like 31 PPG on 62%.

  • @ShniitSchneyder
    @ShniitSchneyder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *puts Luka in thumbnail
    *does not put Luka in video
    😂

  • @yentasnivla
    @yentasnivla 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not bad. I would have Malone and Stockton 1 and 2 with Barkley at 3 but I'm biased.

  • @mininowa
    @mininowa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CP3 was always hurt. So like Embid, I've never been surprised not to see him go through the whole thing. Harden was great during the season, not so much in the playoff. It's not the same thing than playing against MJ.

  • @c99kfm
    @c99kfm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the same top-4, just in another order. Stockton's my #1, with Barkley #2, Baylor in #3 and Malone as #4. Barkley and Stockton had the clutch gene, and if Stockton to Barkley had been the standard rather than Stockton to Malone, neither Stockton nor Barkley would have been eligible for this list.

    • @mytruthismoreuseful
      @mytruthismoreuseful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stockton avg 9ppg in the finals he suck’s

  • @dalton7726
    @dalton7726 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Harden but no Russ feels wrong. I would have to take him over AI, just barely. Sucks there's no room for Nique, Reggie or C Webb. but i can't take anyone off.

  • @samwwade
    @samwwade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My list:
    1. Elgin
    2. Barkley
    3. Karl Malone
    4. AI
    5. Stockton
    6. CP3
    7. Gervin
    8. Ewing
    9. Nash
    10. Westbrook
    Harden probably should be on the list, but I don't want to take anyone else off

  • @spyroninja
    @spyroninja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phew, was scared for a second there that Baylor wouldn't make this list...

  • @conorwatchvidz
    @conorwatchvidz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like T-Mac should be on this list but I don’t know who I’d take off.. maybe Gervin

  • @massimocometti6529
    @massimocometti6529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Lakers' fan since 1978, what if........CP3 trade had been allowed? Still on PurpleGold side, the game following Elgin Baylor's retirement the 33W streak started.......Most of the ringless players faced various dynasties

  • @DanielKanyinda-y5e
    @DanielKanyinda-y5e หลายเดือนก่อน

    It should be noted that Karl Malone was also in the Finals in 2004 with the Lakers (no longer as a top player). He could have won his first title but unfortunately for him he was at the height of the feud between Kobe and Shaq and they were the favorites against the Pistons. There was also Gary Payton in that team (he too was no longer a top player and was without rings until then) but he has been "luckier" as he won 2 years later with the Miami Heat always with Shaq on the team (he could be also a player without a ring)

  • @KemzStudiosOriginal
    @KemzStudiosOriginal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Random Take: John Stockton is the Tim Duncan of Point Guards.

    • @Astrophro
      @Astrophro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except Duncan led his team to a championship 5 times 🤔

  • @GHOST91141
    @GHOST91141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Barkley and Ewing are two of my favorite player's that I wish at least got 1 ring