Thank you, Amazing easy explanation. I think that one thing is missing: when there is conductive hearing loss 1. yes in Rinne test BC > AC in the affected ear, plus 2. in Weber test (same patient, same conductive defect) sound will be more audible on affected side. so I'm saying that in the conductive hearing loss both Rinne and Weber tests are abnormal.
S M this actually came up on my exam. One way to make this easier, is to add arrow heads to the tips of the letters; S for sensorineural and C for conductive. This can tell you the direction of the Webber test. Sensorineural: arrows point in opposite directions, indicating the opposite ear is affected vs. the one that sound was conducted to. Conductive: arrows are on the same side, indicating that the ear the sound was localized to was the one with the defect.
I have always struggled to remember the tests but to simplify things, try imagining yourself with complete conductive hearing loss or sensorineural hearing loss: First, perform Rinne: 1. We know Rinne test mainly tests for conductive hearing loss. If Rinne test is negative (abnormal) on one side, that means your air conduction is not working, i.e. bone conduction works better than air conduction. This happens when you have a blockage in the outer ear, so the sound doesnt get transmitted through the chain of ossicles to the cochlear. = Conductive hearing loss Then, perform Weber: 2. If Weber test makes you hear louder on that same side of the ear, that confirms the conductive hearing loss. (try shutting your ear with your hand in a quiet room and say something) you always hear louder with conductive hearing loss, softer with sensorineural loss. 3. If Weber test makes you hear louder on the other side, it could indicate sensorineural hearing loss on the first side of the ear. Because you pretty much can't hear anything on the ear you just tested, maybe the cochlear/nerve is dead, so only the other ear can hear something. Tricky part is, there could also be conductive hearing loss on this other ear (remember you hear louder when your ear is blocked), therefore it's hard to distinguish when this happens, best to perform audiogram to confirm. I think there are many variations and possibilities to this but hopefully this simple idea/concept help you pass your exams XD, in practice you will end up asking them to do audiogram or refer to ENT if concerning anyway
If anyone would like to know why air conduction is longer than bone conduction in the first place. Remember the mastoid process is full of air pockets, IT IS NOT 100% SOLID. And sound travels slower and tends to be dampened more in air than in a solid. You may ask how does that make sense if sound is traveling only through the air when we remove the tuning fork from the mastoid. The reason is that the malleus, incus, and stapes are designed in such a way as to AMPLIFY sound coming from the air and that increases the ability of the neurons in the cochlea to sense sound from the moving lymph. Because the sound is being amplified from the air, it lasts longer than if sound was moving through the mastoid process which is full of air cells. Maybe someone is curious and it's the least I can do for this helpful video. I hope it helps someone.
Patient with hearing issues: Step 1: Rinne Rinne (BC>AC) = Conductive hearing loss in that ear --> Done Rinne (AC>BC) = Not conductive hearing loss --> use Weber to localize sensiorneural hearing loss Step 2: if Rinne (AC>BC) --> Weber for SNHL Weber Louder ear is good ear--right if they can hear it, ear is working Weber softer ear is bad ear --> SNHL Great video !
i would say do Weber first because it tests both sensorineural and conduction issue. If abnormal, you confirm with Rinne if it's conduction. If not, it must be sensorineural.
Since R comes before We Do Rinne before Weber. Bone conduction > Air conduction, why? When sound passes through ear canal through Malleus Incus and Stapes it gets amplified therefore Bone conduction > Air Conduction. First we do Rinne Test if there is a problem in that ear we know that there is a problem but to ascertain if it is Conductive or Sensoneural we do Weber - if Sound is heard more in the ear which is normal it is Sensoneural problem this makes sense but in conductive hearing loss the sound is heard more in damaged ear this is quite counterintuitive - this happens because in damaged ear there is less noise coming from outside through ear canal and also there is less of sound waves leaving through ear canal as the ear canal is damaged - the reasoning is good but it can be confusing so the mnemonic used here is Sensoneural makes sense.
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Thank you for this video! I have been procrastinating to truly learn this for the longest time. I have my PANCE licensing exam soon and your video helped to clarify this concept that they too also often test.
Thank you very much for this video! I have watched other videos and read some material to help me distinguish between the Weber and Rinne, and yours, is very helpful.
This video is very informative.I want to ask if you could organize your videos categorically under the playlist section so that navigating will be easier for us. Thanks!
Which of the following is a risk factor for inflammation of the outer ear? 1) Installing headphones or hearing aids Eustachian Tube Dysfunction (2 3) Older age (compared to children at a younger age) 4) A child who does not follow the frequent use of ear sticks
Since R comes before We Do Rinne before Weber. Bone conduction > Air conduction, why? When sound passes through ear canal through Malleus Incus and Stapes it gets amplified therefore Bone conduction > Air Conduction. First we do Rinne Test if there is a problem in that ear we know that there is a problem but to ascertain if it is Conductive or Sensoneural we do Weber - if Sound is heard more in the ear which is normal it is Sensoneural problem this makes sense but in conductive hearing loss the sound is heard more in damaged ear this is quite counterintuitive - this happens because in damaged ear there is less noise coming from outside through ear canal and also there is less of sound waves leaving through ear canal as the ear canal is damaged - the reasoning is good but it can be confusing so the mnemonic used here is Sensoneural makes sense.
I have a question to follow up....im doing occupational medicine, and this video was very helpful, but: If hearing loss is noise induced, i learned now it should be sensorineuronal, and BILATERAL in hearing loss. How can we use the weber and rinne test to determine if its sensorineuronal, in both of the ears, bilaterally and symmetrically, as is the requirement for noise-induced hearing loss?
SUCA Web RinCO Abs...sensorineural hearing loss unaffected conductive affective for weber vs rinne is conductive on abn side ....correct me if i am wrong
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Thank you, Amazing easy explanation.
I think that one thing is missing: when there is conductive hearing loss 1. yes in Rinne test BC > AC in the affected ear, plus 2. in Weber test (same patient, same conductive defect) sound will be more audible on affected side. so I'm saying that in the conductive hearing loss both Rinne and Weber tests are abnormal.
exactly........this thing confuses most of the people! thanks for bringing that up
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You need to remove and redo this video, or add an annotation letting viewers know that these is missing information.
S M this actually came up on my exam.
One way to make this easier, is to add arrow heads to the tips of the letters; S for sensorineural and C for conductive. This can tell you the direction of the Webber test.
Sensorineural: arrows point in opposite directions, indicating the opposite ear is affected vs. the one that sound was conducted to.
Conductive: arrows are on the same side, indicating that the ear the sound was localized to was the one with the defect.
S M I agree. It was really amazing. And you addressed a very valuable point. Thankyou to both of you dirty USMLE and S M.
I have always struggled to remember the tests but to simplify things, try imagining yourself with complete conductive hearing loss or sensorineural hearing loss:
First, perform Rinne:
1. We know Rinne test mainly tests for conductive hearing loss. If Rinne test is negative (abnormal) on one side, that means your air conduction is not working, i.e. bone conduction works better than air conduction. This happens when you have a blockage in the outer ear, so the sound doesnt get transmitted through the chain of ossicles to the cochlear. = Conductive hearing loss
Then, perform Weber:
2. If Weber test makes you hear louder on that same side of the ear, that confirms the conductive hearing loss. (try shutting your ear with your hand in a quiet room and say something) you always hear louder with conductive hearing loss, softer with sensorineural loss.
3. If Weber test makes you hear louder on the other side, it could indicate sensorineural hearing loss on the first side of the ear. Because you pretty much can't hear anything on the ear you just tested, maybe the cochlear/nerve is dead, so only the other ear can hear something. Tricky part is, there could also be conductive hearing loss on this other ear (remember you hear louder when your ear is blocked), therefore it's hard to distinguish when this happens, best to perform audiogram to confirm.
I think there are many variations and possibilities to this but hopefully this simple idea/concept help you pass your exams XD, in practice you will end up asking them to do audiogram or refer to ENT if concerning anyway
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If anyone would like to know why air conduction is longer than bone conduction in the first place. Remember the mastoid process is full of air pockets, IT IS NOT 100% SOLID. And sound travels slower and tends to be dampened more in air than in a solid. You may ask how does that make sense if sound is traveling only through the air when we remove the tuning fork from the mastoid. The reason is that the malleus, incus, and stapes are designed in such a way as to AMPLIFY sound coming from the air and that increases the ability of the neurons in the cochlea to sense sound from the moving lymph. Because the sound is being amplified from the air, it lasts longer than if sound was moving through the mastoid process which is full of air cells. Maybe someone is curious and it's the least I can do for this helpful video. I hope it helps someone.
Patient with hearing issues:
Step 1: Rinne
Rinne (BC>AC) = Conductive hearing loss in that ear --> Done
Rinne (AC>BC) = Not conductive hearing loss --> use Weber to localize sensiorneural hearing loss
Step 2: if Rinne (AC>BC) --> Weber for SNHL
Weber Louder ear is good ear--right if they can hear it, ear is working
Weber softer ear is bad ear --> SNHL
Great video !
i would say do Weber first because it tests both sensorineural and conduction issue. If abnormal, you confirm with Rinne if it's conduction. If not, it must be sensorineural.
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Same
Since R comes before We Do Rinne before Weber. Bone conduction > Air conduction, why? When sound passes through ear canal through Malleus Incus and Stapes it gets amplified therefore Bone conduction > Air Conduction. First we do Rinne Test if there is a problem in that ear we know that there is a problem but to ascertain if it is Conductive or Sensoneural we do Weber - if Sound is heard more in the ear which is normal it is Sensoneural problem this makes sense but in conductive hearing loss the sound is heard more in damaged ear this is quite counterintuitive - this happens because in damaged ear there is less noise coming from outside through ear canal and also there is less of sound waves leaving through ear canal as the ear canal is damaged - the reasoning is good but it can be confusing so the mnemonic used here is Sensoneural makes sense.
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Thank you for this video! I have been procrastinating to truly learn this for the longest time. I have my PANCE licensing exam soon and your video helped to clarify this concept that they too also often test.
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This video is very informative.I want to ask if you could organize your videos categorically under the playlist section so that navigating will be easier for us. Thanks!
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Which of the following is a risk factor for inflammation of the outer ear?
1) Installing headphones or hearing aids
Eustachian Tube Dysfunction (2
3) Older age (compared to children at a younger age)
4) A child who does not follow the frequent use of ear sticks
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Since R comes before We Do Rinne before Weber. Bone conduction > Air conduction, why? When sound passes through ear canal through Malleus Incus and Stapes it gets amplified therefore Bone conduction > Air Conduction. First we do Rinne Test if there is a problem in that ear we know that there is a problem but to ascertain if it is Conductive or Sensoneural we do Weber - if Sound is heard more in the ear which is normal it is Sensoneural problem this makes sense but in conductive hearing loss the sound is heard more in damaged ear this is quite counterintuitive - this happens because in damaged ear there is less noise coming from outside through ear canal and also there is less of sound waves leaving through ear canal as the ear canal is damaged - the reasoning is good but it can be confusing so the mnemonic used here is Sensoneural makes sense.
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Rinna (Rinne) goes to the Pinna (outer part of ear)
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It is conductive hearing loss if there's localization of sound (hear better with right ear)!
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I have a question to follow up....im doing occupational medicine, and this video was very helpful, but:
If hearing loss is noise induced, i learned now it should be sensorineuronal, and BILATERAL in hearing loss.
How can we use the weber and rinne test to determine if its sensorineuronal, in both of the ears, bilaterally and symmetrically, as is the requirement for noise-induced hearing loss?
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SUCA Web RinCO Abs...sensorineural hearing loss unaffected conductive affective for weber vs rinne is conductive on abn side ....correct me if i am wrong
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