Great to see your bucking rivots! Just to point out something, the bucking bar goes on the "tail side" when bucking. Also, using air hammers is not only for ease of use but also heats up the solid rivot during the process, which expands it in the hole.
This reminded me that I saw you using staples to fix your 1/4" plywood strips under your main 1/2" deck boards. I used my 18ga brad nailer and wood glue, supah fast! Recommend the 18ga because they do the smallest brads all the way up to over an inch for larger cabinetry. I got mine from harbor freight and it hasnt yet skipped a beat.
Hey man! Great vid! It’s imperative for structural riveting that the holes are perfectly round. Standard drill bits don’t leave holes that are perfectly concentric. Race and aircraft construction typically uses a reamer after an undersized hole is drilled. Will it make a difference right away? Nope. If your boat vibrates and flexes while you use it.... eventually the rivets will loosen. I suggest Carroll Smiths book Nuts, Bolts, Fastening and Plumbing Handbook (if you can find it). It goes into depth on practical riveting that would directly apply to boat building. Keep up the good work! Nice Tools!
I've never used a rivet once in my life but am contemplating building my own jon boat conversion. Thanks for the advice. It's nice to be pointed in the right direction to find the correct methods for each application. I've done carpentry for years but I didn't want to use wood for this project so it will be a new learning curve.
The bucking bar goes on the other end of the rivet in order create the mushroom end. You kept putting it on the head of the rivet which would be incorrect. Love your videos though... keep up the very informative and creative work.
Excellent video. Came here to find a solution to something that happened to me today using 3/16" Ace Hardware aluminum rivets (5/16" grip?) and a Stanley swivel head manual rivet gun. What would cause 3 out of 4 rivets to break off at a weird length -- about 1/2" sticking out of the rivet joint -- and loose? The remaining rivet shaft(term?) is too short to regrip, but obviously having that long thing hanging out of a loose rivet is not good either. I'm planning to cut it off and drill it out, but can't figure out what caused 3 out of 4 rivets I was trying to patch approx 1/8" aluminum with a 0.025" thin aluminum patch, so I don't think I'm too thick for this rivet grip range.
This is a helpful and very thorough demo of various kinds of pop, rivets applied to aluminum, plastic, wood, etc. But I need to repair the bottom of an aluminum boat. I wish there was a better demo of bucking solid rivets. Sounds like I’m going to need an air hammer set up.
nice video man, very informative. What kind of rivet would you suggest for aluminum transom rebuild? Above and below water line so would I want two different types or stick to one?
8:55 So you can basicaly use a hammer and don't necessarily need an airhammer to do buck rivets? What do you call those different sized tools you are applying to the head? so you don't hammer the head just the back? I got a step van and need to attach aluminum sheet to the roof over existing fiberglass. I've used pop rivets and even these cool domed at both end pop rivets that look like a solid rivet on one side but not sure I can get one of those for material thickness less than .625.
Ive heard that stainless rivets should be used. I got the Arrow rivet tool, but it says on the box not for stainless rivets...do you use stainless rivets, and if so, what tool do you use for them? I'm building tackle storage and an electrical panel in a smoker craft Alaskan 13.
What up man cool video, any chance you got a lead on some aluminum bolts? Just to avoid corrosion and electrolysis between stainless and aluminum. I'm gonna be using M10 threaded insert rivets to mount my deck down.
Really?! Sweet!! Thanks for the heads up man! I got some cool pics of my boat to show ya soon, just finished framing, about to foam and start decking, by the way how has the coosa board been working out, any cons?
You said the waterproof rivets aren’t very strong but what if you have rivets below waterline? Edit: You also noted the solid rivets are way stronger than needed.
Tiny Boat Nation Ok, any chance you have a tips video on doing them in a one man operation? Or is the only option bribing family with a case of beer to help? 🤣
Looking for a tutorial on how to build hatches out of aluminium (like the one shown at the beginning). They cost like $800 and the materials total is around $75 (max). Can you do a tutorial on that? Millions of van lifers would also appreciate it I'm sure.
I just signed up as a $25 patron. Unfortunately I do not know how to navigate the site just yet. I really want to understand how to make the Gen 5 drybox with the channel for water runoff
POP® brand closed-end blind rivets offer up to 23 percent greater tensile strength than POP® brand open-end rivets, as well as zero penetration by liquids or gas at pressures up to 100 psi.
I have purchased some of the same Milwaukee tools three or four times. Some of them really are a necessary convinence there's no doubt. Or necessary evil I should say. I've killed everybrand of cordless tool and had a box of it all as big as a small house before I finally shit canned it. If you can find the time and space to put a good quality compressor somewhere where the noise is insulated away from your house and neighbors well then airtools last forever. Figure a way to keep the hoses from being a pain and I especially use the largest connect fitting for the tools with the quick-change at the hose. I usually blue tape a rag around the airtool outlet port to quiet it down. When it's not a loud use too it makes a big difference in your attitude toward them. Anyway you have a great show, it's been fun watching you transition from kind of an upgraded diy to a professional in aluminum boat rehab. You have a good balance of speed and perfection to keep the projects moving along.
Great to see your bucking rivots! Just to point out something, the bucking bar goes on the "tail side" when bucking. Also, using air hammers is not only for ease of use but also heats up the solid rivot during the process, which expands it in the hole.
I did not know that. Now I do!
Great video! Very informative.
Good editing and very interesting content.
Keep up the good work.
This reminded me that I saw you using staples to fix your 1/4" plywood strips under your main 1/2" deck boards. I used my 18ga brad nailer and wood glue, supah fast! Recommend the 18ga because they do the smallest brads all the way up to over an inch for larger cabinetry. I got mine from harbor freight and it hasnt yet skipped a beat.
Hey man! Great vid!
It’s imperative for structural riveting that the holes are perfectly round. Standard drill bits don’t leave holes that are perfectly concentric. Race and aircraft construction typically uses a reamer after an undersized hole is drilled. Will it make a difference right away? Nope. If your boat vibrates and flexes while you use it.... eventually the rivets will loosen.
I suggest Carroll Smiths book Nuts, Bolts, Fastening and Plumbing Handbook (if you can find it). It goes into depth on practical riveting that would directly apply to boat building.
Keep up the good work! Nice Tools!
I've never used a rivet once in my life but am contemplating building my own jon boat conversion. Thanks for the advice. It's nice to be pointed in the right direction to find the correct methods for each application. I've done carpentry for years but I didn't want to use wood for this project so it will be a new learning curve.
you do great informational videos. Thank you so much.
Great video, thank you!
Have or do you use Cleco's to hold your work in place till you are finished setting up the project?
The bucking bar goes on the other end of the rivet in order create the mushroom end. You kept putting it on the head of the rivet which would be incorrect. Love your videos though... keep up the very informative and creative work.
Excellent video. Came here to find a solution to something that happened to me today using 3/16" Ace Hardware aluminum rivets (5/16" grip?) and a Stanley swivel head manual rivet gun. What would cause 3 out of 4 rivets to break off at a weird length -- about 1/2" sticking out of the rivet joint -- and loose? The remaining rivet shaft(term?) is too short to regrip, but obviously having that long thing hanging out of a loose rivet is not good either. I'm planning to cut it off and drill it out, but can't figure out what caused 3 out of 4 rivets I was trying to patch approx 1/8" aluminum with a 0.025" thin aluminum patch, so I don't think I'm too thick for this rivet grip range.
This is a helpful and very thorough demo of various kinds of pop, rivets applied to aluminum, plastic, wood, etc. But I need to repair the bottom of an aluminum boat. I wish there was a better demo of bucking solid rivets. Sounds like I’m going to need an air hammer set up.
Can your tiny boats get hauled by your car? I pull my 14ft tiny boat with my Honda civic it works great
Great video Michael! Answered a lot of questions I personally had!
Awesome tutorial
Thanks for all the work you do to share your knowledge with us.
What size rivets to attach 2 pieces of 1/8” aluminum angle?
nice video man, very informative. What kind of rivet would you suggest for aluminum transom rebuild? Above and below water line so would I want two different types or stick to one?
Use some of your scrap aluminum to make baking washers for rivets.
Thank you very much for sharing this!!♡♡♡
🤜🏻👍🤛🏻
Looking for more information on your Gen 5 Hatch
Can you use steel rivets on aluminum?
Thanks for great info.
8:55 So you can basicaly use a hammer and don't necessarily need an airhammer to do buck rivets? What do you call those different sized tools you are applying to the head? so you don't hammer the head just the back? I got a step van and need to attach aluminum sheet to the roof over existing fiberglass. I've used pop rivets and even these cool domed at both end pop rivets that look like a solid rivet on one side but not sure I can get one of those for material thickness less than .625.
It’s a concave bit that covers the mushroom and you would tap it from the back.
@@TinyBoatNation So you don't necessarily need an air tool? What do you call that bit?
Thanks you Michael Lopez!
Ive heard that stainless rivets should be used. I got the Arrow rivet tool, but it says on the box not for stainless rivets...do you use stainless rivets, and if so, what tool do you use for them?
I'm building tackle storage and an electrical panel in a smoker craft Alaskan 13.
Just use aluminum rivets. You need a really powerful gun to pull stainless
@@TinyBoatNation Thanks!!!
These are great tips
Thanks, like the electric rivet gun!
Hey Michael. Do you recommend medium or short rivets when framing a jon boat? What's the true difference between the two?
@@TinyBoatNation ok thanks. BTW great builds and videos. I've learned allot from you. Keep up the great content.
What up man cool video, any chance you got a lead on some aluminum bolts? Just to avoid corrosion and electrolysis between stainless and aluminum. I'm gonna be using M10 threaded insert rivets to mount my deck down.
Really?! Sweet!! Thanks for the heads up man! I got some cool pics of my boat to show ya soon, just finished framing, about to foam and start decking, by the way how has the coosa board been working out, any cons?
You said the waterproof rivets aren’t very strong but what if you have rivets below waterline?
Edit: You also noted the solid rivets are way stronger than needed.
Tiny Boat Nation Ok, any chance you have a tips video on doing them in a one man operation? Or is the only option bribing family with a case of beer to help? 🤣
Looking for a tutorial on how to build hatches out of aluminium (like the one shown at the beginning). They cost like $800 and the materials total is around $75 (max). Can you do a tutorial on that? Millions of van lifers would also appreciate it I'm sure.
Hi sir am frm India.. Am doing kitchen interior.. Is rivet good for hinges and aluminium frames...
Plzz reply brother
@@TinyBoatNation tq so much brother for ur reply.... God bless you
I know you're not supposed to use stainless steel with aluminum rivets but can you use aluminum rivets with regular steel?
@@TinyBoatNation I'm having a hard time finding them. The box stores doesn't carry them.
Are you gonna have anymore $25 patreon spots available anytime soon?
I just signed up as a $25 patron. Unfortunately I do not know how to navigate the site just yet. I really want to understand how to make the Gen 5 drybox with the channel for water runoff
I have some hull repair work to do on my aluminum boat. Can anyone recommend or post a link to for closed-end rivets? Preferably 1/4 in diameter.
Check us out on TBNation.net. Search rivet
What is 5th gen framing ?
Awesome info!
Damn it now I need a band saw like that
POP® brand closed-end blind rivets offer up to 23 percent greater tensile strength than POP® brand open-end rivets, as well as zero penetration by liquids or gas at pressures up to 100 psi.
@@TinyBoatNation I think the key is to choose correct grip thickness.
Great video thx.
Thank you
$335 For the cordless power rivet gun and $300 for the band saw..... I'd say at those prices, they better be worth it...
can I get away with aluminum rivets that have a steel mandrel?
Yeah, using a grinding wheel on aluminum is bad because aluminum is so soft and gummy that it just loads up grinder wheels.
Why don’t you ever show your 5th Gen framing?
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6:43 dam son easy easy, thats like 35 dollars you just butchered there.
Under the pressure of professional boat building I have had every single Milwaukee tool fail on me. In the long, they suck.
I have purchased some of the same Milwaukee tools three or four times. Some of them really are a necessary convinence there's no doubt. Or necessary evil I should say. I've killed everybrand of cordless tool and had a box of it all as big as a small house before I finally shit canned it. If you can find the time and space to put a good quality compressor somewhere where the noise is insulated away from your house and neighbors well then airtools last forever. Figure a way to keep the hoses from being a pain and I especially use the largest connect fitting for the tools with the quick-change at the hose. I usually blue tape a rag around the airtool outlet port to quiet it down. When it's not a loud use too it makes a big difference in your attitude toward them. Anyway you have a great show, it's been fun watching you transition from kind of an upgraded diy to a professional in aluminum boat rehab. You have a good balance of speed and perfection to keep the projects moving along.
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