Omg hi👋 im really early on this video so i really hope that this comment will have a better chance of getting your attention. I was raised in a strictly Conservative family and so naturally without a question i was pro-life. I was lead to believe that abortiin was murder and that women had to be held responsible for thier "promiscuity " as our pastor would say. It wasn't until i stumbled across one of you videos that i was truly able to grasp just how multi dimensional this topic is. I hadn't known the true adversities of pregnancy, the complications that could arise during and even after birth or the emotional toll that it could take on a women. I now know that not all abortions are just "unwanted babies" and that sometimes abortion can be life saving in the mothers case. I cannot thank you enough for all of the awareness that you have spread regarding this topic. Some of us truly don’t know any better simply because we just don’t know enough. Informative videos like these are some of the many things that truly drive change . I really hope you keep doing what you're doing becasue it truly is vital . 💜
The fact that you were willing to change your perspective after being properly educated about the nuance of such a complicated topic gives me hope that reproductive education will save us in the end. Thank you for being open minded and questioning authority where it matters. I also want to say that I know plenty of Christian people who support safe access to abortion and it in no way has to negate your faith. There are always more accepting and open-minded churches out there who don’t bring their political views into the church service.
@@nikmorgan372why dont you stop trying to deceive people that Christianity is pro choice. Just stop doing that ,better for you to create your own religion that can support your views
As an Ohioan, it is absolutely exhausting how adamantly people are requesting Ohio voters to vote no on Issue 1. Regardless of one's personal beliefs for/against abortion, why WOULDN'T someone want a patient's healthcare decisions to be between them and their medical team? The same people who are anti-Issue 1 are also (99% of the time) the SAME people who are so nervous about the government coming for their 2A rights. I already sent in my absentee ballot voting yes on Issues 1 and 2! Thank you Mama Doctor Jones for speaking on Issue 1!
I'm getting ads about how it's "impeding parental consent rights" and that may be fodder for the "vote no" campaign. It's astounding how many of our fellow Ohioans fell for it.
@@brennaweaver3974 right like one ad literally said “protect parents’ rights. Vote no on issue 1” like they’re just blatantly saying children should have no autonomy? Cool. 🤬
Isn’t it funny how PL like to wax poetic about how a fetus is not part of our bodies and doesn’t “belong” to is to do with what we wish… when now we’ve got legislation wherein one of the selling points on the PL side is that passing issue 1 takes away a parent’s “right” to control their child’s destiny? As if they belong to their parents and not themselves? I find that… actually not hilarious at all.
@@watersk2013 which is funny, because they say that a fetus has rights, but a child has no rights outside of what their parents say, but a parent can't choose to abort a fetus, it's really a vicious circle of bs.
This. When I told my coworker I voted early she said "did you vote for abortion?" I corrected "choice." Because while I myself might not make a decision like that, it shouldn't stop me from allowing somebody who would. It's the same way like I'm heterosexual and cisgender, but that doesn't mean I can't allow it support somebody different from me who is the opposite.
My friend once said, "You can't reason someone out of something that they didn't reason themselves into." I used to be pro life, but after this backwards step for the country, I learned a lot to be pro choice.
As someone who went to Catholic school, same. As soon as I started to go to college, it was very obvious to me that what we had been told to believe wasn't based on reason, but what they had been told to believe.
@@user-ym1mk5mx9lwhy are you just wholesale making shit up? Also, don’t remove the hyperlink so that the person you’re responding to doesn’t get notified. Real coward behavior.
Good for you! Most of them are pro life because of their religious beliefs. They can go pretty extreme even the case of rape is no exception for abortion.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 I'm Christian and still Christian, but I believe in being kind and having an open mind to different viewpoints. All people are important, and we should value the life of the woman more than a few cells.
@@SilverHawk214most rapist get a slap on the hand for their crimes. They would most likely be able to get out after a year or two. Making the whole thing feel pointless and putting yourself in danger.
Born and raised here in Ohio. Voted early and Yes on Issue 1. Many people, mostly men, were outside my county board of elections urging No votes and spreading misinformation. Locked eyes with a few women in the parking lot on my way in trying to avoid them. Was an odd sensation of solidarity and ultimately just being so so tired of it all. Vote Yes if you’re in Ohio. Please.
I live in Ohio and I'm honestly not surprised to hear about that happening. I've noticed that of all the people I've heard saying vote no on Issue 1 it's mostly men. I was trying to enjoy a dinner out with my husband the other day and this loud table of men were going on about Issue 1 and how scalpels don't belong going up a women's vagina and how babies don't deserve to get scrambled by a blender. 🙄 These guys don't have a frigging clue what they're talking about but they should somehow have the right to tell women whom they don't even know what to do with their reproductive health. Let's leave medical decisions to the patients and their doctors. I'll be voting YES on Tuesday.
@@kaeserd Shame yours taught you no manners it seems. If you have an S/O, I send them my sympathy for not being able to see how much of a rotten apple you are. Replied guy either deleted his own comment or it got deleted for him.
I'm in Ohio, too, and I hate seeing the "Vote No" signs that say "Protect them Both" or "Protect Children" or "Protect Parents' Rights". 1) the only thing they're "protecting" is their beliefs, 2) the children they're "trying" to protect are only the fetuses, because if this doesn't pass, then there will be a bunch of living children that are going to be harmed by this, and 3) if parents were actually parenting and allowed their children a voice, then the children would come to them if something happened instead of trying to hide it.
Saw a video on instagram where a lady who had a miscarriage at 15weeks wanted to have a funeral service for her baby and the funeral home called the police on her. She had to retell her whole miscarriage to cops for 2 hours before her husband came home and the cops only left after the husband told them the same thing his wife was explaining to them for 2 hours!
The thought of a "Born Alive" bill is horrifying. When we were pregnant with our daughter, my husband and I were in agreement. If we were told before viability that our child would be born with some extremely life limiting condition, we would not continue the pregnancy. Similarly, if our child came into this world dying and that fighting to preserve life would result in a severely limited life, we would not do that. It would be cruel to force parents to have a child that is constantly in pain, that can't perform basic functions of life, that will never cognitively progress to the point where you've got a person and not a person-shaped goldfish, to put resources into maintaining that life. And I'm in Canada where that would be covered on our healthcare.
My friend was induced early for her own health after they found out their very wanted baby had severe deformities inconsistent with life. There was a possibility of a live birth, but no chance of survival. They did end up with a stillbirth, but imagine if doctors had been required to rush a baby away and subject it to life-saving measures when the most that would possibly do was extend life from minutes to hours - lost time away from the parents, and incurring massive bills they would struggle to pay. They decided beforehand that if the birth process didn't kill their girl, they wanted as much palliative care as the hospital could provide for her and to spend whatever minutes holding her. I'm so glad they were able to have that choice.
Yes. Politicians DO make terrible doctors when they're not actual doctors. So many, as we've seen on MDJ before, do not understand ovulation and abortion
Plenty of doctors-turned-politicians make terrible doctors once they get into positions of power, when "politician" takes priority over "being a doctor."
My favorite is the multitude of stories of women telling politicians she needs to be excused to go to the bathroom cuz her period started and the male politician is all "just hold it in god you women are so lazy you just wont hold it so you can go play on your phone/get out of work"
@@HituraRael The amount of males that I have met in my 36 yrs of life that believe women either can control when it starts, decides when it stops or just hold it is down right embarrassing to this counties sex ed. How do grown ass men with mothers, wives or sisters not have a clue about how periods work? I like to say that periods aren't like needing to pee. You can't hold it. Or if I stab you with a knife and just tell you to hold the blood in so you don't bleed out, would that make sense to you? Don't get me started about men and unfortunately some women that still believe women pee out of the vagina. 🤦🏻♀️
Ohioan here! We got our votes in 💪 As the parent to girls(even though they are young) this absolutely terrifies us!! We litterly had our governor get on a broadcast and basically gloat about how they were saving Innocent babys after roe got overturned so its time to let our wills be known with our vote! ❤
I’m not sending my daughters to a university in Ohio if this doesn’t pass on Tuesday. Nope. I’ll spend my tuition dollars in New England where medicine and science matters. Anyway, my wife and I voted yes. My bro and his gf voted yes. The 4 couples we discuss politics with, voted yes. So there’s 12 Yes for sure.
@@dollhousemakr my mother lord rest her soul sobbed when roe was overturned 😭 she had the choice when she was assaulted at 14 and was terrified that me even though I have a tubal could have a hail Mary statistics type thing, or (and more so this reason) that her grandbabies wouldn't be protected in the same way. She made me promise to be even more militant than she was about who they are with at all times. Hell they are young right now but the six yr old is only 4 yrs younger than that poor child who they discussed how a pregnancy would be an opportunity 🤮 and made her parents into villains for traveling to get that child the healthcare she needed! Only to decide after backlash from the whole state she would have had access 🤦🏻♀️
@@MikeLikesChannelthey can come to Michigan! We have some amazing schools and codified reproductive rights during our last election. We are also working on the roads 😂
Requiring people to undergo intensive care for ... what was the word? Pari-viable fetuses? That one. Requiring that is especially rich for a country that doesn't have universal health care. So like, you require people to bankrupt themselves? Nice.
If the baby lives long enough to qualify for institutional Medicaid (31 days in Ohio), you can apply for Institutional Medicaid before their discharge and eventually it might be covered... BUT, if your baby does not live that long, you're on the hook for every penny. My son was a 26 week twin. He died at 29 days old, literally the evening of the day we got the application from the hospital social worker. Medicaid doesn't approve dead people. BCMH (Children With Medical Handicaps) eventually kicks in if you qualify, but they're a last resort program so it still has to go through denials and everything before they can pay. As a result, 6 years later I'm still getting occasional collection notices for my son's hospital stay even though it's theoretically all taken care of by now. (Not sharing for sympathy, just to show how this actually goes)
As a Canadian, it has been so heartbreaking to follow along and watch multiple States take backwards steps on reproductive healthcare and rights. I’m sorry to my American neighbours who are being wrongfully denied access to the reproductive health care they may need.
It is also scary seeing some of our politicians agree with the laws in the US and say that they would do the same if they ever get the majority in the parlerment. I don't know which province you live in, but in mine seeing conservative parties start to pop up and saying the same things scares me. I'm still young enough that those law would affect me greatly if they ever were to pass.
not only are we being denied reproductive rights and choice, we're being denied healthcare as a whole, and now trump is leading in polls to retake the presidency. rest assured if he is re-elected he will NOT leave office unless it's in a body bag. and we can kiss all of our norms and laws and protections goodbye. even more heartbreaking is searching, and not finding, a country that is actually immune to this rising tide of fascism.
@@axepagode33626Do you actually believe that pregnant women are just deciding they are sick of being pregnant and offing their late term fetuses/babies?
As a woman living in Germany, seeing all this happen in the US is terrifying. We also have an increasing number of politicians openly campaigning for similar bans. And for everyone saying „you’re not affected, why would you care?“ I am. Maybe I have access to an abortion now, but how long do you think it’s going to stay this way when we have established politicians who openly celebrate this inhumanity, saying they look up to people like Ron de Santis as a role model and how Germany should follow on this path. Stuff like this affects people all over the world Maybe not today. But certainly tomorrow.
I am from switzerland, the right wing party (that just recieved a huge win at the federal elections) tried to limit access to abortions. Lukily they were not able to gather the required signatures (direct democracy for the win🎉) but it is still terifying.
I really hope it will not be the case! But this terrifying voices are currently everywhere in EU, unfortunately. As someone from Poland, when now we also have very restricted access to abortion, Germany, Czech Republic and Austria are go to locations for everyone to get medical help. Only better access to contraceptives, healthcare, safety and information is going to decrease abortion rates - and I believe that should be the global goal, as many of them could be avoided. But still - abortion should be legal, so women can be safe and keep on living.
Same in Canada. It's small now, but without political activism I don't see why it wouldn't just keep getting bigger. American culture is so influential, for better or worse.
You have a point, but you aren't looking at the other side. Terminating life, no matter when, has huge negative consequences to society as well. When do we stop? What if I decide that my neighbor's life is inconvenient to me? Should I have the right to terminate his life. It's a slippery slope downward either way. Why not protect life if it's going to be a mess? Stuff like this affects people all over the world too. It's not like one side has the right answer. So, again, why not protect all life?
I voted from overseas for the first time just for this issue. Couldn't believe all the the talk of people pushing against basic human rights. If you don't believe in abortion that's fine, just don't utilize it! Stopping others from access is an insult to women's rights and sets us back centuries.
Wrong. Murdering babies because they are an inconvenience sets us back millennium. Barbarian and Viking tribes murdered babies that were unwanted or inconvenient. Protecting children's rights is a modern day cause.
My first year as an overseas Ohio voter as well! This is super important to me because I have friends and family in Ohio still (and generally care about people).
@@kindness_cat6212 as long as your last address in the US was in Ohio. There's some specific forms to make sure you qualify, and you have to request absentee ballots every year.
I’m in Ohio, voted Yes! And any ad on Facebook that I see asking people to vote no, is flooded with comments saying they’ve voted yes or are going to vote yes. Gives me hope.
Thank goodness. I was unsure until I looked through the comments because I'm in an area where seeing vote yes signs is rare (1 or 2 at most), but I also assume that's because it's also dangerous in our area. To express politics against the churches that is, last time I heard someone put up a sign that was different than the churches there were guns involved at their house. I also early voted yes, but hearing that others are doing it and it is supported online gives me more hope than I've had since it got announced
@@randomweeb9179 Having guns involved for an opposing opinion is very scary!! I’d be scared to express my opinion openly in your area as well. But I’m happy you voted true to your heart. A lot of people are having the same mindset as you and have voted yes to issue 1 & 2! ❣️I’m seeing a lot more young people in the polls this time around too, so there’s a good chance for the yes’s to win!!
@@AmandaBrown-pu4ev me and my mom both voted Yes early. Well, she didn't for legalizing MJ. She thinks if it's legalized then people will put fentanyl in it.
I'm an Ohioan and a Catholic who is voting yes on issue 1. Thank you so much for spelling out the relevant facts in such an easy to understand way. I'll be sharing this video. I'd also like to add that any law that demands care that will likely not result in a happy, healthy baby AND forces the parent to pay for that care (or go bankrupt trying to pay for it!) is disgusting. Doubly so, any law that denies care that could cause the death of the pregnant person but would still require payment from a grieving family for the care they were legally allowed to receive is reprehensible.
That is very confusing. The Catholic church teaches that every procured abortion is a moral evil. Do you believe abortion is a moral evil but people should have access to do evil things? Or do you just disagree with the Catholic Church but still call yourself catholic?
@@jellyrollyI mean it has nothing to do with one religion. It has to do with “religious” people who vote to restrict healthcare without any knowledge on how that is killing and severely harming people.
My miscarriage experience is what made me radically pro abortion. I wouldn't wish having to make those choices on anyone and you NEVER know what you would or wouldn't do, or what you would or wouldn't want until you're squarely in your unique situation. And to tie doctor's hands and create fear and shame around all of this just makes the whole horrific thing that much worse.
@@leahcook1659 true, but that doesn’t change anything? A miscarriage is still an abortion. Even in a medically induced abortion there can be complications.
My gallbladder popped and I was taken to a catholic hospital. They checked me out, and told me that I had to get my gallbladder removed immediately or I would die. I signed the "it's ok to operate on me" paperwork. Then they came up and told me that I'm not getting the operation because I was pregnant. I didn't even miss a period yet. And I'm ok with surviving without another baby. They said no. And refused to send me to another hospital and refused to feed me for a few days until I got a holy guy approval. But I wasn't allowed to talk to anyone about getting the surgery. No holy guys, no doctors, no family or friends. My friends and family ignored that last part and just threatened to sue everyone. Then after 4 days, I was approved to get the surgery, but they didn't give me enough anesthesia because of the pregnancy and I kept waking up during surgery. Never going to a catholic hospital for ANYTHING again.
@@vidyasreeram2587 it wasn't. But I kept getting told that it was for over a year. And you can only sue your doctor for it if you file a claim within a year. I didn't know that at the time. I STILL don't know HOW to file a claim, because doctors and their staff don't let you know how to do that, even if you go to a different doctor to ask how.
@@vidyasreeram2587religious exemption. They can do whatever they want at catholic/religious hospitals and doc offices. My ob wouldnt even discuss tubal ligation with me because i wasnt married with at least 1 child even though i have zero desire to give birth
Just adding to it, even for people who don't agree with recreational marijuana, having it legalized helps those who need and use medical marijuana get it easier and a looot less expensive. Allow people to get their treatment without going bankrupt.
@@randomweeb9179 yep, medical marijuana is very expensive, especially when there's no recreational competition to drive prices down. I pay almost as much per day for medical marijuana as I do for food. It is the only treatment that has stabilized my pain. Other things can bring down my pain, but this is the only one that makes my pain level stable for more than a few hours. I used to go from relatively fine (my "fine", but still a lot of pain) to non-functional in a matter of hours multiple times a week. Now if I'm fine (actually fine, still a bit of pain but completely manageable) on Wednesday I'm probably still gonna be fine on Sunday.
@randomweeb9179 it may also help to get it covered by insurance companies in the future. Although, they hardly cover insulin so I'm not too hopeful...
I'm in Ohio and I'll be voting yes on Issue 1. Just in the last couple weeks, the yes signs and ads have exploded. The Ohio subreddit is overwhelmingly pro issue 1. I think we have a good chance but we need everyone to get out and vote on Tuesday so we can save our choice.
Also in Ohio, voted yes early. I drive past the early voting location for our county quite a bit because we happen to live near it and the turnout has been amazing, so much that it's really bogging down traffic. It's been great to see, but I hope everyone gets out.
@annam9534 That's awesome to hear! I think the republicans have underestimated how important this issue is to people regardless of what side of the political spectrum they're on. Even for those who have never considered, wouldn't consider, or are too old to consider having an abortion. People understand it's not about us as individuals. I'm past reproductive age but I have a 17yo daughter. I want her to have access if she was SA'd (she's gay). I want everyone to have access to the reproductive choice that's best for them. It's none of my business... or anyone else's... what choices they make for their bodies.
@@michellerhodes5477Nope they didn't under estimate that is why they pulled the stunt in August, and that is also why they threw out 26,000 vote registers. That ALONE makes me really nervous. Plus their are a lot of Vote No signs around, slightly more than vote yes that I have seen, But the neighbor right next to me is mega based so that is nice. He has 2 vote yes signs. What gives me a bit of hope is that their was a lot of support when we had the pro-abortion protest next to the Chick fil a, lots of people honked their horns for it, pretty decent turn out as well, and we had one of the winning spots for the Vote no in the August election as well. Still nervous because you never know.
Following the abortion debate in the US is wild. My country, Finland, just passed a law that went into effect two months ago, lifting a lot of restrictions. Before this new law, you needed two doctors' approval (although over 90% are medical abortions), you had to have a reason. I always used to think it was messed up you had to justify your own decisions to two doctors, but I thought the reasons were good. Rape, incest, health of the mother, health of the child, socioeconomic reasons, if the mother already had 4 kids or was over 40 (I think, roughly 40) and if the mother was young. What baffles me about the American discussion is how age isn't mentioned at all. I think the age was like, if you're under 17 you can get an abortion, no questions asked. Imo, if some states are gonna restrict abortions, they should always allow abortions to minors, even if they were of age of consent. Anyone under 18 is a child, it's wild they would be forced to have a kid, or that they would need someone else's approval to get an abortion.
So agree. If having sex with that minor would be considered statutory rape, they should be allowed an abortion without question. Obviously what happened to them was a crime, even if you don't currently have a suspect.
@@XXXkazeXXXif the mother's life is at risk 🤦♀️ did you bother to look it up at all, or do you think that once a woman gets pregnant life doesn't matter anymore?
Unfortunately one thing they didn't change in the law is the strict cut off at 24+0 weeks, no exceptions for the mother's health or lethal fetal anomalies. I had an abortion in Finland at 23+4 weeks for a planned and very wanted pregnancy that unfortunately was not viable. I will forever be grateful that I was living in a country that not only allows such care, but makes it easy to access with terminations being provided at all public hospitals that have a delivery ward. That being said, more than 5 years later I still clearly remember the sheer anxiety and panic I felt at the time due to the 24 week cutoff. I would never wish that on another person. I feel so incredibly sorry for people who don't find out about fatal abnormalities until it is already too late to seek a termination. When I had my amniocentesis I was advised that the genetic testing results would take 1-2 weeks. I was incredibly lucky that it only took 6 days to receive the results that confirmed that the baby had no chance of survival. The same day I received the results I signed the form to request a termination, and I was given an appointment at the hospital for the termination the following week. My appointment was 10am on the next day that Valvira met (permission from Valvira is required to perform abortions in 2nd trimester). At the time of my appointment the hospital had verbal permission from Valvira and could start the termination without waiting for written permission. I made it within the strict cutoff by only 3 days and I literally signed the form within 3 hours of receiving the diagnosis. At every point in the process I took the first appointment offered to me. There was no possible way for me to get the testing or results any earlier. If the genetic results had taken the full 2 weeks instead of 6 days my options would have been: 1. request an abortion based on the ultrasound results, not knowing if I was making the right decision and potentially only finding out after the pregnancy had already been terminated 2. continue the pregnancy and wait for the baby to die, taking on all of the health risks of pregnancy as well as the mental health issues that come with being forced to continue a non-viable pregnancy against your will 3. travel to another country that allows 3rd trimester abortions and pay entirely out of pocket since it will not be covered by any health insurance or the EU reciprocal healthcare (which is obviously not financially viable for most people). To force a person to choose whether to have an abortion while their test results are still pending is barbaric. It is just as bad to force a person to continue a non-viable pregnancy because they found out the pregnancy wasn't viable after an arbitrary cutoff point. I can't see any way of justifying a strict 24 week cutoff for a non-viable pregnancy and I wish this had been changed.
Abortions is healthcare and should definitely be codified. I think limits need to be lifted on abortions too. It’s so important to me that “late term” (third trimester) abortion is legalized in more places. After watch the documentary After Tiller I realized how important it was. All the cases shown are of families that very much wanted a child but know that their baby won’t make it. To me it’s cruel to force a person to carry a baby that will not make it. I grew up in conservative Missouri and debated with my classmates in high school that abortions should be legal. This was in 2003/2004. I grew up in STL and moving just 20 minutes south put me in an area that was incredibly conservative. Luckily I live in Chicago now and I feel very fortunate.
It angers me so much, too. Roe v. Wade's entire point was that it's not even our business why someone goes to a doctor or what they're doing there. The fact this is even an argument anymore in 2023 when they reached the same conclusions back in the 60's is maddening. Instead we've invented strawmen, the idea of people using abortion as birth control, the suggestion someone person who was pregnant for 7 months would suddenly just decide "idonwandothisanymore." Neither of these people exist, but they allow people to not think critically on the situation.
💗💗 IT PASSED!!!!!💗💗 Ohio voter who lives in Canada here. I remember marching in a pro-choice rally in Cincinnati when I was in highschool (way back in the 80's). And it's sad that we're back to this. I voted via an overseas ballot, but am glad my vote wasn't even necessary! I'm relieved not only because this is so absolutely needed for women's healthcare, but also a hopeful step forward. Everything has been so backwards that this is a ray of sunshine. So let's keep those rays going and get this in every state!!
As an Ohioan, I WILL be voting yes on tuesday! We need this more than ever. People's rights are important, and most importantly, their mental AND physical health matter. Thank you for talking about this!
For anyone in Ohio’s neighbor PA, Pennsylvania has a state Supreme Court seat on the ballot that could change the make up of the court to be against abortion rights and other rights if the seat goes conservative. If you’re in PA please vote!
@@letitiajeavons6333 if they didn't do away with excluding party next to the judge's name, I'm sure that the 2 democrats that ran last time would've gotten elected. But Republicans changed that rule because in 2016 when they didn't have the party next to the name, 2 Democrats won seats, so they knew they had to change that. Democratic voters mostly look into things, Republicans usually don't, so while democrats would've voted for the democratic judges, Republicans (without knowing party affiliation) would've just randomly picked.
Thank you Dr. Jones for continuing to cover these topics! Medical issues need to be dealt with by doctors, not politicians. Why is that so hard for some to comprehend?
I am a woman in Canada. Ever since last year, I've followed all the development WRT abortion/reproductive rights in the US more than our own politics here at home. I am enraged on behalf of all US women. I hope common sense wins, and I dare say that the few victories ever since the overturning last year (meaning the couple of times abortion went on the ballot and won) are giving me a little hope. I support all of you over there and sending strength and good vibes.❤
I’m also from a very conservative area in southern Ohio, so I totally feel you. Watching the 2016 elections as a minor (in horror) was bad enough, but it’s honestly worse now. I hope it at least motivates you to register to vote as soon as you turn 18! For now, I promise many of us are voting with you in mind
I'm in Flor-Duh & apparently we're in competition with Texas to restrict reproductive rights! This state has become a giant pool of hate. It's become so awful here in so many ways that not a day goes by where I'm not looking for any opportunity to get out of here!
Having a father who recently died, he signed a DNR. And what he was refusing was the same, I think, as what you are talking about for a fetus born alive at around 20 weeks gestation. And the “born alive” constitutional amendment would REQUIRE something called “HEROIC” measures to be performed, regardless of the wishes of the parent! They are incredibly INVASIVE and, in some cases, PAINFUL measures!!
@@lynnlee8194 Which is pretty unlikely, and if the fetus does manage to live they would most likely have severe health issues. So it could be hell for them
@@lynnlee8194they're almost certainly going to suffer and die horribly which is going to traumatize the parents and the health care workers that are forced to do it. When a family makes a choice to do heroic measures, generally there's at least some measure of chance and at least they are affirming that choice. When you're forced to do something it puts another level of horror onto something versus actively choosing to do something. I don't think you would sit there and torture a puppy for 6 months, bad enough to give it say a 5% chance of surviving and the walk away emotionally intact. So I don't know why you think the same would happen with an actual child. 😵💫 I chalk it up to people just not knowing how horrific keeping somebody alive with machines can actually be. It's not like the movies, and preemies are so delicate that it literally tears their bodies apart.
If you think a girl is old enough and mature enough to carry a baby to term and be a mother, then she is old enough to decide if she wants an abortion without parental consent.
I just saw! And had to come here. Apparently by a landslide? Amazing you guys!!! As a Canadian I’m so happy for you. Keep it up. And don’t let a Republican represent you.
@Mama_Bear524 That's right, and the Republicans knew they would likely lose. Every time abortion rights have been on the ballot since Dobbs, the people vote for their rights. I'm tired of them pretending like American are split on this issue
I had a still birth at 22 weeks, my daughter was absolutely not viable and as traumatic as it was, having her in the NICU and the trauma and heartbreak involved in that absolutely would have been even worse - especially of she still didn't survive. It would be horrifying if we were forced to go through that.
There were a lot of signs posted saying to Vote No on Issue 1 in my area that said “protect parents rights” underneath and it had me so confused I thought voting no would protect our rights 🤦🏼♀️🙄 definitely manipulative
I mean I guess it protects men's "rights" to force their partners to birth their children, provide men with leverage to keep their pregnant partners trapped and controlled, etc etc...
So I won't reshare the video because I don't want it getting additional views but "Protect Parents' Rights" is supposed to mean if your daughter were to get an abortion as a parent you wouldn't have any say whether she did or not. There's a "Closed Door" Ad regarding this I saw online. I was also thoroughly confused if parents' rights thing was supposed to protect the father or something but I guess that's not it.
@@Dragon_of_Rampage OK good?? If they are a minor I think that 100% of time it is for health reasons, and minors die more easily from child birth. The closed door for everyone else is to prevent coercion, same should go for kids as well.
One thing that isn't really talked about is when I worked in a fertility clinic we would perform D&C on patients that are in the early stages of miscarriage or when the pregnancy is non-viable often rather than send them home to have the miscarriage at home, so they could move past the tragedy in a humane way. It was always a bad day in the clinic when this happened but it was part of so many people going on their fertility journey, these were wanted pregnancies but circumstances made it necessary to have the procedure. A D&C is a part of fertility care that is not often spoke of and I would rather see a person have access to having a D&C when needed in all circumstances.
This is why I want abortion to be legal in all cases. The Venn diagram between abortion and miscarriage management is a single circle. I don't want people to go to jail for miscarriages. I don't want people to die from miscarriages. Therefore I don't want abortion to be punished or restricted by politicians or anyone else.
I felt the same way about Roe v Wade, and was in shock for a while when it was struck down. I'm terrified in the US as someone who has needed, has accessed, and may need an abortion in the future. But I am far more fearful for those less fortunate than I that can not even begin to overcome the barriers the right is trying to put into place. Humans are not cattle.
The overturning of roe v wade actually made a lane for the states to open up less restrictive or more restrictive abortion access based upon what the majority of that states population votes upon. Removing federal oversight of abortion which is great. That means we the people get to decide what we want based upon a vote and not a panel of people in Washington telling you can and cannot do. Letting the people decide on a state by state basis giving freedom back to the people and that's democracy. Not everyone will see eye to eye but we live in a society in which we the people are able to create right and laws based upon what the majority of the people in each state want. There's always going to be a side that "wins" and a side that "loses" its impossible for everyone to get what they want. We have to govern based upon what "works" for the largest amount of people. So in a nutshell the overturning of roe v wade has given more power to the people to govern themselves, yes it may be rough at first because of the destabilizing situation of turning the decision back into the peoples hands on a state by state basis. For example I'd assume youd be happy if roe v wade was overturned and lets say for the sake of this example was against abortion and federally enforced. Well it works both ways. Its good that the federal government has given up some authority becuase the fed shouldnt be involved so deeply in our daily lives as it is.
@@Ash-fo3ii freedom to individually govern as our founding fathers intended and not have the fed have to much oversight and power over the people is not nonsense. Do you want the fed to have the absolute power over you ? If you do you might want to not live in a constitutional republic where were have democracy.
@jeroddowdle7018 A) I'm a socialist so I prefer government to privatization. B) you sound a bit radicalized; wanting to kick people out if they don't share your view
I never said anything about kicking people out of a country at all. So I have no idea where that's coming from, I'd like you to cite where I stated that people should be kicked out of the country if they don't agree with me... Oh wait you can't because I never said such a thing. And I'm sorry if I don't wamtbthe country I live in to be a socialist country because socialist governments in every aspect have killed more people than anything throughout its implementation in history. It leads to extreme poverty and absolutely zero chance to advance in life also restricts growth in tech sectors, medical fields and other extremely skilled trades that require a lot of hard work and knowlegde but in a socialist setting they would never be rewarded properly, ultimately resulting in less and less people making that effort because they know they will receive the same compensation as a fry cook. So I'm sorry if it seems radical to you that I don't want other people having absolute control over my life. Socialism is stealing from people that work hard and then "redistributing" the stolen money to other people but not before taking out a huge chunk of it and filling there pockets.
@@kellibrenneke2253 I remember when I feared Indiana's laws leaking over here because of Pence. Now we're the toxic one. We've lost a lot of our good Ob/Gyn doctors also. I had a hysterectromy last September and I was one of her last patients. My post op care was all done by a different doc (who is still awesome) because she was one of the few abortion specialists and left the state so she could still practice and safe lives.
@@KaitLynnHt Chin up. We're on the eve of being the first red state to enshrine abortion rights protections into our constitution. "Thoughts and prayers" for the nut jobs.
The miscarriage video makes me so angry. I'm in Georgia, I just got married, and I asked my OBGYN how these laws are specifically affecting our area because we'd like to have a kid in the next few years. She told me in no uncertain terms that if anything happens, she can't do a damn thing about it. The closest state with proper emergency care is Virginia (7 hour drive). This is not sustainable, it is not safe for anyone who becomes pregnant, and the waxing poetic about "exceptions" makes me so livid. On not using the word "woman", like MDJ said, children are a thing. Also they've been testing birth control options for people with male reproductive systems. That protects them in the future, too. Not to mention some of these pro life groups are anti-condom of all things. So yes, individual is appropriate.
It's so scary that minors need parental permission or to go to court for an abortion, what if the parents are abusive and what if the father caused the pregnancy?
Abortion doesnt unrape anybody. Just creates victims and lets the rapist continue to do what they do without living evidence. A paternity test would convict. Why kill the innocent one? They dont deserve to be hated. They didnt cause their conception.
Is it scary? But what happens in the event of human trafficking or abuse? Shouldn't a legal guardian or parent be notified if a minor is secretly seeking out an abortion to conceal rape or incest? We don't realize that sex trafficking among minors is huge business in the US. Laws that don't require the consent of a parent further allows abusers to hurt girls and young women. I couldn't get a cough drop from my teacher without parental permission. But suddenly we have moved to allow a kid to have invasive surgery without their parent's knowledge? How, Sway?
@@thisistheday597 if a minor has a pregnancy caused by incest there's a good chance the legal guardian caused it. I don't know where you got your information about sex trafficking but abusive parents are often a factor that makes people vulnerable to exploitation. Parental involvement doesn't make every child safer. I don't know why your teacher would give you cough drops in the first place and it's not relevant. In the UK minors don't need parental consent for their safety and I believe this is the more common policy across the world.
The fact we now have to remind people that pregnancy is basically a life-threatening condition is so sad. Only 120 years ago it would have been discussed it's an OK risk because boys are more important than their mom's for the society...
I absolutely agree that it's insane that we have to remind people of that. But I also think that your second point isn't necessarily true. Pregnancy was WAY more dangerous then and that didn't go unrecognized. Even from the coldest perspective, an alive woman is capable of having more children; a dead woman is not. And people have loved their spouses throughout history. That doesn't mean abortion was openly societally accepted, but it absolutely happened, and certainly there were men who would prefer their wife alive. And even when it wasn't socially accepted, it happened for thousands of years.
@lynnlee8194 because more people live through the pregnancy and because more of the at risk pregnancies are ended. For your information, in the whole word, almost 300 000 people died from carrying a child in 2020. Also, it's not because we don't die from something anymore it is not life-threatening. Take HIV. Nowadays, it is rare to develop SIDS and die if you get HIV and have access to health care. Doesn't mean HIV isn't a life-threatening virus.
@awaredeshmukh3202 of course I can just agree with the details and context you add 😊 to reassure you, I was just trying to point out a society shift I'm not talking about individual decisions and how humans had the same feelings and bravery we still show nowadays. My point is, before it was admitted a pregnancy could kill the mom. What was discussed, when anything was debated, was indeed if it's worth it or not. Now some people argue being pregnant is a completely fine state for a body.
if they vote yes i might actually consider moving to ohio. i'm looking to get tf out of texas and ohio was on my no-go list because it's so heavily republican but enshrining reproductive rights in their constitution would go a long way to reassuring me it's safe to live there. plus there are some cheap-ass houses in ohio!
Like others on here, I'm from Ohio. I voted early and voted Yes. Voting yes doesn't mean you necessarily believe in abortion. I personally don't know how I'd deal with that kind of emergency situation. But you don't have to agree with something to let other people have that right for themselves.
Then the real question is, why did the people who put the issue forward, not rewrite the law to make the exceptions? I feel like the hard truth is, people want to go back to terminating a pregnancy just because they can. Because it’s what is easy. Not what is best. We live in a foul world. We forget the real choice begins at sex. This is why birth control needs to be available for both sexes, and people need to be educated more. I was taught that sex can lead to a pregnancy from a young age, starting the conversation from my parents. I remember in high school being taught about birth control, and for a public school, how much the information was lacking. I learned more about sex and had a better sex education from my private school, than I did from the public high school in Ohio. It’s pretty terrible. Then the whole family issues. We need to educate everyone better and encourage others to make better relationship decisions, in a kind loving way.
@@kagehato Most people don't get an abortion as a means of birth control. That is nonsense. What you're essentially preaching is that people who made on-the-fly decisions to have unprotected sex should be forced to follow through with having a child they didn't want or aren't able to raise healthily. That's wild.
I live in Ohio and live near one of the largest early voting areas, and every day, the line is consistently 3 blocks long or more.it was the same when they made that special election to try and stop issue one from getting on this ballot in August. It is clear to me the people are in disagreement with the government.
MDJ, As an Ohioan I'm very glad you're covering this. I've been screaming to everyone outside of Ohio about this issue and I'm really scared. I'm trying to get everyone I know to vote yes, and I've been even trying to convince my anti-choice parents. Thank you for discussing this thing I'm terrified about.
Thank you for doing videos like this one MDJ. I often share them with my 16 year old non-binary child so they understand what these terms mean and the gravity of what can happen if we lose our rights. This, my second of three children, was born at 27 weeks due to a partial abruption at 26 weeks. We were just beyond the cusp of viability. We both almost died. I will always vote to protect The rights of the individual, and allow the medical community to do everything they can to protect their patients. It was the worst day of my life, and also the scariest. I can’t imagine what would have happened if they refused to help me because their heart was beating while I was bleeding to death.
It's so painful to hear that crap happens in "the land of the free". More like "the land of the prudish" or "the land of where people with female reproductive organs are not actually free at all".
We've never all been truly free, have we? It seems to me that we can either approach that from a cynical perspective ("we were never free and the people who claimed to stand for freedom were racists and sexists and more"), or from an aspirational perspective ("this nation has always had flaws, but we have gotten closer to achieving what we said we wanted with every generation, and it's our job to keep that going")
@@awaredeshmukh3202 I'm not from the US. Although I actually studied the US in uni and have my diploma on one of the aspects of modern US - Canada cooperation (immigration).
Puritanical fuckery. If life is so precious, why do we not have universal healthcare? Why are children not clothed, fed, educated, loved, cared for, protected from gun violence and abuse? It's not that the politicians think babies are humans, it's that they think women aren't. Women are incubators and sex objects (but only if a man wants to objectify her).
I live in Ohio and I admit it I AM FRIGHTENED. I hope to never need to have an abortion, but I definitely want to keep the option should it be required. My health isn't great and if it's me or an embryo I want to be able to make the choice myself. The steps backward in women's rights is appalling! I made sure I went down and voted early just so I didn't have a bad day and miss my opportunity to weigh in on something so important.
Checks out considering alot of things thwy don't believe us on until it happens to them, then they want our comfort, and we still wouldn't get an apology probably 😔
There was a tumblr post that said something along the lines of "imagine if there was a machine (and laws in place), that if a woman didn’t want to carry a pregnancy it could be transferred to the FATHER. How fast do you think abortion would no longer be an issue?" I've also seen a post (can't remember where it originated but I feel like I've seen it on twitter,) that said "If men had periods, menstrual products would be free." (Or something to that effect.)
I live in Missouri, it was already written in and we were THE first state to implement a total ban, rape victims included which is sick....Women can travel out of state yes, but these lawmakers seem to forget that the majority of single women in Missouri live below the poverty line so that is really not an option..Why can't Missouri put this to a vote for We The People to decide? It would pass and they know it so they are doing everything in their powers to keep it from a vote.
I'm in MO too. They're playing around with the wording for potential items to vote on. To me, it seems like they'll keep screwing around until the deadline has passed to avoid it being on the ballot.
The minor patient arguments always make head hurt "children are toooooo young to cobtrol their bodies/health/reproductive choices but old enough to be a mother!"
I get what you’re saying but the ages for kids to make their own medical choices are getting younger and younger. We are also incarcerating more and more minors as adults in their crimes. If you can decide on puberty blockers at 12, 13, 14 you have the maturity to have a child too. Kids are either minors or they are not. Transitioning your body, kids definitely shouldn’t be deciding that so young. I think the transition issues will work against kids who conceive say in rape or incest. It’s just sad how we pick and choose to help kids.
What is even more sad about the 10 year olds case is that many people here still accuse her of lying. Instead of following the case and seeing a suspect got arrested they listened to the politician and went with it.
Yep. My mother wanted her thrown in prison FOR LIFE without chance of parole "for harming a child", but also thinks a 6 MONTH sentence "is more than enough" for child rapists. That's not even as long as the pregnancy she wanted that child forced through.
@@waffles3629 I would cut my mother out of my life for saying that. No more spending time with her on Thanksgiving and or Christmas. That poor ten-year-old girl, I hope she knows she did nothing wrong and what happened to her wasn't her fault.
@@maggie6152 yep. She wants anyone who has an abortion in prison for life. Even if the person has been in a coma for three years (no, you didn't do that math wrong, the person had no way of consenting to anything that happened). Or it's ectopic. Or the fetus is clinically dead. Yeah, she's special all right.
Ugh it’s like freedom of religion only counts when conservative Christians and Catholics feel oppressed. I said it when Roe was overturned…All the laws the states were enacting to restrict abortion rights were an infringement on people’s freedom of religion. Love your videos!
What’s funny is the Bible doesn’t even restrict it. I can think of 3 separate times a fetus was treated differently than a child, most notably Exodus ch22, where the punishment for accidentally killing one was just a fine. The Jews have the Old Testament and they don’t forbid it. The Muslims have both books and they don’t forbid it either. Just these people infamous for not following their own book!
This reminds me of Kansas when we had to vote on abortion access. Not so fun fact: Ever since Kansans agreed abortion access is a right, our government officials have been trying to overturn that decision or make it null and void. Never stop paying attention, Ohio, even if you win. But, wishing you all the best in this fight! 💜
I don’t normally post but I’m from Ohio and I would like to say thank you so much for making a dedicated video about Issue 1! The amount if propaganda I have seem on both sides is devastating, and no one is mentioning that there is so much more at stake beyond abortion! So thank you Dr. Jones for helping us fight for our rights!!
I go to college in VA but my "home" address is in OH so Ive never been sure where to vote... this issue is what made my choice for me- sent my absentee ballot in a couple of weeks ago! They had a special election in the summer that would change how votes are counted (I can't remember the actual details off the top of my head) that was really only meant to make it easier for abortion to be restricted in November. That item was also called issue 1, but to prevent that change (not make it easier to restrict) you had to vote no... even the language is manipulative and confusing... THANK YOU for talking about this!
I was born and raised in Ohio. Lived there for 25 years before I moved away. It was always a “purple” state when I lived there and to see it become more and more conservative has been very disheartening particular on issues like abortion. I hope that everyone gets out and votes and makes their voices heard on this really important issue.
Thank you for breaking down Issue 1 for those voting in Ohio and those who are watching this election play out. I see the "Vote Yes" and "Vote No" signs a lot while driving in Ohio, and I actually laugh when I see the "vote no" signs that say "Protect Parents' Rights", "Protect Children", and, ironically enough, "Protect Women" (as a woman who is currently pregnant, I do not feel protected). I'm just ready for this election to be over, but thank you again for all the info you're providing to give those who haven't voted the ability to make a well-informed decision.
I think something not talked about enough is the implicit sexism. There is no equivalent for male bodies. Even if in some alternate universe, abortion bans didn’t cause harm, they would still be blatantly unconstitutional.
the sheer fact that they consider a fetus a person from conception when it comes to abortion, but not when it comes to CHILD SUPPORT really says it all.
“Religious” zealot: “abortion is the intentional killing of a ‘human being’ and that can never help women” . 🤨🤔🧐 I don’t know, I feel like a person who is going to die if they don’t get an abortion, and get one and live… I don’t know, I feel like they might feel pretty damn helped!!!
Ohio resident and devoted voter. I voted a big fast YES on Issue 1 yesterday. I don't understand how the right claims to be against big government and gov't interference, but insists on govt dictating what i do with MY uterus. Pro-choice is NOT pro-abortion. It IS pro-autonomy. Let's get that straight.
I am also from Ohio, I will vote yes on Tuesday. We must protect our rights here. The misinformation spread over the last few months is ridiculous. Thanks for presenting the facts!!
I loved in OH until a few months ago, and listening to the TV ads telling people to vote against this amendment made me _furious!_ I am so glad that you took the time to discuss and break down what was actually happening here. I understood that voting yes was important, but I thought that was more of a preventative measure than it was to ensure reproductive rights.
Even as someone with the capacity to provide baby-batter (but not parts to produce, sustain a baby), this is a near-no-brainer. Once “Zealots” start going after such personal rights, they go after everyone’s rights.
exactly. i don't want to see anyone fooling themselves into thinking "well this issue doesn't affect me" or "it'll stop with that minority group," FASCISM DOES NOT STOP. it comes for everyone sooner or later.
@@dietotaku exactly! I have had my tubal so only a hail Mary chance of pregnancy for me(which I would like the choice to not go through a 3rd pregnancy and cesearean in that case for sure) but I have little girls who even though they are young 6&3(the 6 yro is only 4 yrs younger than than the 10yro they were disgustingly discussing how a pregnancy was an opportunity for that poor child🤮 so I want to fight hard to keep that right here lord forbid she ever needs it). It just makes me and the hubs sick to our stomach that they may not have that right so we have been pushing friends and fam to go vote and filled out our absentee ballots last night ❤️
Yep! My husband doesn't want kids either. They aren't just forcing it on me and our baby wouldn't be one of those 100,000 white rich ppl want. It would be half Haitian and end up in the foster care system. I would also have to collect welfare because we can't even afford basic healthcare, let alone a $20,000 birth bill.
@@triciaboo1204, good choice on the absentee ballots. Pregnancy should not be ‘an option’ for anyone under their state’s respective age of consent-even if they have had a comprehensive Sex Ed talk with their parents!
I am in a radical ban state (Kentucky) and cried tears of relief when Ohio voters passed Issue 1 and Virginia blocked Governor Youngkin's stated goal of getting statehouse majorities to ban abortion. Kentucky has gone nucking futs and we need our neighbors to stay sane. So, for the next few years, our closest clinic remains 2 hours away in VA. I don't have a uterus in this fight but I work in a college and with young adults (and adults of all ages) and I want people to have the same sexual and reproductive freedom that I did--and even better. Roe is not enough. Roe was the floor. We want full reproductive JUSTICE! The forced birthers are going to rue the day their SCOTUS overturned Roe. They are going to long for the good old days of Roe. They keep LOSING! Repro Rights win 7/7! (Even in Kentucky!)
As an Ohioan thank you for addressing this issue. After my first and only baby is born in December I am having my tubes removed. Why I am scared of issue 1 failing. I have had 4 miscarriages and 1 of them could have killed me if I didn't get treatment. I am scared of getting pregnant again and leaving my husband and son. I hope and pray that issue 1 passes. It is sad that in 2023 women have to be scared of getting pregnant because the government won't stay out of their business.
I was in Ohio recently and the amount of false information I saw just on signage was staggering. The “No” contingent has to be dumping multiple millions of dollars into this.
I am so glad you are talking about this because it is important to hear from experts instead of religious folks or politicians on this and many other topics.
i like that you pointed out the logical inconsistency of exceptions to abortion bans. as i put it to anti-abortion activists, "abortion: a sometimes murder." it really just lays bare the fact that they're not actually concerned about the life of the fetus, they want to punish women (not men) for having recreational sex. and the ones that DON'T make exceptions for rape victims want to relegate women to incubators, lacking even the choice in whether or not we reproduce as it is solely up to the man who chooses to impregnate us. they want to bring about gilead from "a handmaid's tale." i also am always a fan of the argument you raised that banning abortion bestows on the fetus a right that no other human being, living or dead, has: the right to take possession of another person's body and utilize it as a life support system without consent. we don't take organs from DEAD PEOPLE without prior consent, but we would take the entire body from a woman and grant control of it to a clump of cells that barely has a central nervous system.
the brilliant part about the wording on viability is that it means if a woman is pregnant with a fetus that has been deemed "incompatible with life," deformities that make it impossible for that fetus to survive outside the womb, then *the mother's health does not have to be at risk* to terminate that pregnancy *at any point.* because the only restriction is predicated on viability as defined by A LICENSED PHYSICIAN, such a pregnancy will never be restricted because the fetus will never achieve viability. whoever wrote this amendment really made sure all their bases were covered!
I know right! It's like they accept "hey, for many people carrying a pregnancy resulting from rape would be extremely painful, traumatic, and life-altering" and then their brains stop and they don't realize that for many people who haven't been raped, it's still painful, traumatic, and life-altering! Rape is horrible but are you going to tell me that losing a job because you can't work while pregnant, when you're already in poverty, isn't horrible? Are you going to tell me having to drop out of school and abandon your dreams isn't horrible? Staying with an abusive partner isn't horrible? Being disowned by your parents because they disapprove of you being sexually active? Giving birth to another child when you already have more than you can take care of? Giving birth in general is pretty horrible! Why does someone else get to draw the line for when the pain and sacrifices YOU have to undergo is sufficient to end a pregnancy?
@@melodramusicbecause continuing a pregnancy and giving birth inflicts avoidable suffering on a sentient being, which can be avoided without harm to anyone that can actually experience suffering or pain. And because pregnancy isn't passive, pregnancy actively uses someone's body and if they don't consent to that, they don't have to let it continue. You don't have to donate your blood or kidneys to save someone else, including your child and including someone you caused a medical issue to. Why is pregnancy different, why is it the only time you force someone to give up their right to their body to help keep someone else alive?
@@melodramusicthere's a difference between killing someone and stopping someone from being inside your body, using your body, and altering your body with the side effect of them dying. You are the only person who has a right to use your body. Anyone else can only use it as long as you want them to. Even if you're dead, someone can't harvest your organs unless you agreed to it while alive. You can't cut out my kidney because I only really need one and yours are failing, and if I choose to selfishly keep both my kidneys, you can't accuse me of murdering you. I simply refused you something you were never entitled to, and it resulted in you not making it. And since it's my kidneys, I get to decide whether the sacrifice of giving one of them up is worth it for me or not. Same exact deal with a pregnancy. A fetus isn't entitled to the body of the person it's in. It's not entitled to forcing them to go through nine months of actual pregnancy, through giving birth, and through any postpartum effects, just like you're not entitled to my kidney.
@@melodramusic you don't have a parental obligation to a nonsentient clump of cells. Even if you did, you have no legal obligation to do even something as minor as a blood donation for your child. So why do you have a legal obligation to provide a whole nine months of pregnancy as well as the hours to days of giving birth? Just because something in the uterus has to come out eventually doesn't mean you don't get a say in how it happens. Theres a difference between a medicinal abortion at eight weeks, which literally just feels like a heavy period, and giving birth. Abortion is safer than childbirth. Abortion (especially early on) is way easier physically than childbirth. Just because the fetus comes out eventually doesn't mean you get to force someone to be pregnant for nine months and grow it and get it out in the most painful and physically demanding way possible, just because then it has a higher chance of being alive. You don't get to violate someone's right to their body to increase the chance of someone else being alive. It's literally that simple.
Thank you so much for addressing and explaining these topics! As a teen living in Texas, it is heartbreaking to see healthcare and reproductive rights being taken away from so many who need it. I've been trying to learn more about all of these issues so that I can hopefully help advocate for policies in my state to ensure that everyone's rights are protected. I really enjoy your positive, informative content
i'm glad you're continuing to cover these topics, because i (and i'm sure many others) would've never know what was going on or why it was happening. also, yes, politicians make terrible doctors in more ways than one.
lol But....but...but how can we stop controlling women's bodies if they don't want to have sex with us willingly? What about our DICKS!? Won't somebody think about our DICKS! lol I cracked myself up typing that.
Omg hi👋 im really early on this video so i really hope that this comment will have a better chance of getting your attention. I was raised in a strictly Conservative family and so naturally without a question i was pro-life. I was lead to believe that abortiin was murder and that women had to be held responsible for thier "promiscuity " as our pastor would say. It wasn't until i stumbled across one of you videos that i was truly able to grasp just how multi dimensional this topic is. I hadn't known the true adversities of pregnancy, the complications that could arise during and even after birth or the emotional toll that it could take on a women. I now know that not all abortions are just "unwanted babies" and that sometimes abortion can be life saving in the mothers case. I cannot thank you enough for all of the awareness that you have spread regarding this topic. Some of us truly don’t know any better simply because we just don’t know enough. Informative videos like these are some of the many things that truly drive change . I really hope you keep doing what you're doing becasue it truly is vital . 💜
Thanks for being here and for sharing this.
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The fact that you were willing to change your perspective after being properly educated about the nuance of such a complicated topic gives me hope that reproductive education will save us in the end. Thank you for being open minded and questioning authority where it matters. I also want to say that I know plenty of Christian people who support safe access to abortion and it in no way has to negate your faith. There are always more accepting and open-minded churches out there who don’t bring their political views into the church service.
And if a church is accepting abortion that is no longer a church. You are no longer a christian
@@nikmorgan372why dont you stop trying to deceive people that Christianity is pro choice. Just stop doing that ,better for you to create your own religion that can support your views
As an Ohioan, it is absolutely exhausting how adamantly people are requesting Ohio voters to vote no on Issue 1. Regardless of one's personal beliefs for/against abortion, why WOULDN'T someone want a patient's healthcare decisions to be between them and their medical team? The same people who are anti-Issue 1 are also (99% of the time) the SAME people who are so nervous about the government coming for their 2A rights. I already sent in my absentee ballot voting yes on Issues 1 and 2!
Thank you Mama Doctor Jones for speaking on Issue 1!
I'm getting ads about how it's "impeding parental consent rights" and that may be fodder for the "vote no" campaign. It's astounding how many of our fellow Ohioans fell for it.
@@brennaweaver3974 right like one ad literally said “protect parents’ rights. Vote no on issue 1” like they’re just blatantly saying children should have no autonomy? Cool. 🤬
Isn’t it funny how PL like to wax poetic about how a fetus is not part of our bodies and doesn’t “belong” to is to do with what we wish… when now we’ve got legislation wherein one of the selling points on the PL side is that passing issue 1 takes away a parent’s “right” to control their child’s destiny? As if they belong to their parents and not themselves?
I find that… actually not hilarious at all.
@@watersk2013 which is funny, because they say that a fetus has rights, but a child has no rights outside of what their parents say, but a parent can't choose to abort a fetus, it's really a vicious circle of bs.
This. When I told my coworker I voted early she said "did you vote for abortion?" I corrected "choice." Because while I myself might not make a decision like that, it shouldn't stop me from allowing somebody who would. It's the same way like I'm heterosexual and cisgender, but that doesn't mean I can't allow it support somebody different from me who is the opposite.
My friend once said, "You can't reason someone out of something that they didn't reason themselves into."
I used to be pro life, but after this backwards step for the country, I learned a lot to be pro choice.
As someone who went to Catholic school, same. As soon as I started to go to college, it was very obvious to me that what we had been told to believe wasn't based on reason, but what they had been told to believe.
@lyndsaybrown8471 oh so you got used up like a chew toy and want a way out to axe your children.
@@user-ym1mk5mx9lwhy are you just wholesale making shit up? Also, don’t remove the hyperlink so that the person you’re responding to doesn’t get notified. Real coward behavior.
Good for you! Most of them are pro life because of their religious beliefs. They can go pretty extreme even the case of rape is no exception for abortion.
@@lyndsaybrown8471 I'm Christian and still Christian, but I believe in being kind and having an open mind to different viewpoints. All people are important, and we should value the life of the woman more than a few cells.
How traumatizing would it be to have to prove getting raped in order to get needed treatment from a hospital?
You have to face your acuser as well , that's the terrifying part ..
If it means that the male gets a long long time behind bars it wouldn't be all bad.
@@SilverHawk214most rapist get a slap on the hand for their crimes. They would most likely be able to get out after a year or two. Making the whole thing feel pointless and putting yourself in danger.
@@baileymadison9019Some men however make themselves go back to jail.
And there are rapes that a woman or child is not aware of until pregnancy because they were DRUGGED and didn't know.
Born and raised here in Ohio. Voted early and Yes on Issue 1. Many people, mostly men, were outside my county board of elections urging No votes and spreading misinformation. Locked eyes with a few women in the parking lot on my way in trying to avoid them. Was an odd sensation of solidarity and ultimately just being so so tired of it all. Vote Yes if you’re in Ohio. Please.
I live in Ohio and I'm honestly not surprised to hear about that happening. I've noticed that of all the people I've heard saying vote no on Issue 1 it's mostly men. I was trying to enjoy a dinner out with my husband the other day and this loud table of men were going on about Issue 1 and how scalpels don't belong going up a women's vagina and how babies don't deserve to get scrambled by a blender. 🙄 These guys don't have a frigging clue what they're talking about but they should somehow have the right to tell women whom they don't even know what to do with their reproductive health. Let's leave medical decisions to the patients and their doctors. I'll be voting YES on Tuesday.
@@kaeserd Shame yours taught you no manners it seems. If you have an S/O, I send them my sympathy for not being able to see how much of a rotten apple you are.
Replied guy either deleted his own comment or it got deleted for him.
Last time I checked, men could give birth. Women caused their own issues. Women don't want to be equal.
I'm in Ohio, too, and I hate seeing the "Vote No" signs that say "Protect them Both" or "Protect Children" or "Protect Parents' Rights". 1) the only thing they're "protecting" is their beliefs, 2) the children they're "trying" to protect are only the fetuses, because if this doesn't pass, then there will be a bunch of living children that are going to be harmed by this, and 3) if parents were actually parenting and allowed their children a voice, then the children would come to them if something happened instead of trying to hide it.
@@dollhousemakr So women don't know how to control themselves. And most are deadbeats by the looks of what you stated.
Saw a video on instagram where a lady who had a miscarriage at 15weeks wanted to have a funeral service for her baby and the funeral home called the police on her. She had to retell her whole miscarriage to cops for 2 hours before her husband came home and the cops only left after the husband told them the same thing his wife was explaining to them for 2 hours!
People really just do not treat women like they are human beings
The thought of a "Born Alive" bill is horrifying. When we were pregnant with our daughter, my husband and I were in agreement. If we were told before viability that our child would be born with some extremely life limiting condition, we would not continue the pregnancy. Similarly, if our child came into this world dying and that fighting to preserve life would result in a severely limited life, we would not do that. It would be cruel to force parents to have a child that is constantly in pain, that can't perform basic functions of life, that will never cognitively progress to the point where you've got a person and not a person-shaped goldfish, to put resources into maintaining that life. And I'm in Canada where that would be covered on our healthcare.
My friend was induced early for her own health after they found out their very wanted baby had severe deformities inconsistent with life. There was a possibility of a live birth, but no chance of survival. They did end up with a stillbirth, but imagine if doctors had been required to rush a baby away and subject it to life-saving measures when the most that would possibly do was extend life from minutes to hours - lost time away from the parents, and incurring massive bills they would struggle to pay. They decided beforehand that if the birth process didn't kill their girl, they wanted as much palliative care as the hospital could provide for her and to spend whatever minutes holding her. I'm so glad they were able to have that choice.
Yes. Politicians DO make terrible doctors when they're not actual doctors. So many, as we've seen on MDJ before, do not understand ovulation and abortion
Remember Bill Frist? Sometimes they make terrible doctors when they are doctors
Even the ones that have been doctors tend to "forget" their training when it comes to this issue.
Plenty of doctors-turned-politicians make terrible doctors once they get into positions of power, when "politician" takes priority over "being a doctor."
My favorite is the multitude of stories of women telling politicians she needs to be excused to go to the bathroom cuz her period started and the male politician is all "just hold it in god you women are so lazy you just wont hold it so you can go play on your phone/get out of work"
@@HituraRael The amount of males that I have met in my 36 yrs of life that believe women either can control when it starts, decides when it stops or just hold it is down right embarrassing to this counties sex ed. How do grown ass men with mothers, wives or sisters not have a clue about how periods work? I like to say that periods aren't like needing to pee. You can't hold it. Or if I stab you with a knife and just tell you to hold the blood in so you don't bleed out, would that make sense to you? Don't get me started about men and unfortunately some women that still believe women pee out of the vagina. 🤦🏻♀️
Ohioan here! We got our votes in 💪
As the parent to girls(even though they are young) this absolutely terrifies us!! We litterly had our governor get on a broadcast and basically gloat about how they were saving Innocent babys after roe got overturned so its time to let our wills be known with our vote! ❤
He also said he is a grandparent to a girl, and doesn't seem to see the irony in doing this.
I’m not sending my daughters to a university in Ohio if this doesn’t pass on Tuesday. Nope. I’ll spend my tuition dollars in New England where medicine and science matters.
Anyway, my wife and I voted yes. My bro and his gf voted yes. The 4 couples we discuss politics with, voted yes. So there’s 12 Yes for sure.
@@dollhousemakr my mother lord rest her soul sobbed when roe was overturned 😭 she had the choice when she was assaulted at 14 and was terrified that me even though I have a tubal could have a hail Mary statistics type thing, or (and more so this reason) that her grandbabies wouldn't be protected in the same way. She made me promise to be even more militant than she was about who they are with at all times. Hell they are young right now but the six yr old is only 4 yrs younger than that poor child who they discussed how a pregnancy would be an opportunity 🤮 and made her parents into villains for traveling to get that child the healthcare she needed! Only to decide after backlash from the whole state she would have had access 🤦🏻♀️
@@triciaboo1204 and the fact that some Ohio politicians called it a lie. They should all apologize to that family and resign in shame.
@@MikeLikesChannelthey can come to Michigan! We have some amazing schools and codified reproductive rights during our last election. We are also working on the roads 😂
Requiring people to undergo intensive care for ... what was the word? Pari-viable fetuses? That one. Requiring that is especially rich for a country that doesn't have universal health care. So like, you require people to bankrupt themselves? Nice.
Yep, it's expensive and never going to work. So you bankrupt someone instead of letting them spend whatever time they have, it's barbaric.
If the baby lives long enough to qualify for institutional Medicaid (31 days in Ohio), you can apply for Institutional Medicaid before their discharge and eventually it might be covered...
BUT, if your baby does not live that long, you're on the hook for every penny. My son was a 26 week twin. He died at 29 days old, literally the evening of the day we got the application from the hospital social worker. Medicaid doesn't approve dead people. BCMH (Children With Medical Handicaps) eventually kicks in if you qualify, but they're a last resort program so it still has to go through denials and everything before they can pay. As a result, 6 years later I'm still getting occasional collection notices for my son's hospital stay even though it's theoretically all taken care of by now.
(Not sharing for sympathy, just to show how this actually goes)
We have a constitution which restricts federal tax dollars from aiding and funding an elective abortion of a healthy child.
@@notbecky4111 You get sympathy anyway! That his horrible and I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Tell the collections agency that they can stick their HIPPA violations where the sun don't shine. I hate it here.
As a Canadian, it has been so heartbreaking to follow along and watch multiple States take backwards steps on reproductive healthcare and rights. I’m sorry to my American neighbours who are being wrongfully denied access to the reproductive health care they may need.
It is also scary seeing some of our politicians agree with the laws in the US and say that they would do the same if they ever get the majority in the parlerment. I don't know which province you live in, but in mine seeing conservative parties start to pop up and saying the same things scares me. I'm still young enough that those law would affect me greatly if they ever were to pass.
You say that like an abortion for convenience reasons is actually healthcare when in fact it is ending a human life.
not only are we being denied reproductive rights and choice, we're being denied healthcare as a whole, and now trump is leading in polls to retake the presidency. rest assured if he is re-elected he will NOT leave office unless it's in a body bag. and we can kiss all of our norms and laws and protections goodbye. even more heartbreaking is searching, and not finding, a country that is actually immune to this rising tide of fascism.
@@axepagode33626 Its a human life that never even started. Religious beliefs should not dictate healthcare access!
@@axepagode33626Do you actually believe that pregnant women are just deciding they are sick of being pregnant and offing their late term fetuses/babies?
As a woman living in Germany, seeing all this happen in the US is terrifying.
We also have an increasing number of politicians openly campaigning for similar bans.
And for everyone saying „you’re not affected, why would you care?“
I am.
Maybe I have access to an abortion now, but how long do you think it’s going to stay this way when we have established politicians who openly celebrate this inhumanity, saying they look up to people like Ron de Santis as a role model and how Germany should follow on this path.
Stuff like this affects people all over the world
Maybe not today.
But certainly tomorrow.
I am from switzerland, the right wing party (that just recieved a huge win at the federal elections) tried to limit access to abortions. Lukily they were not able to gather the required signatures (direct democracy for the win🎉) but it is still terifying.
Wow...this is so scary, seeing advanced countries in the Europe moving backwards like this. What's happening in the world?
I really hope it will not be the case! But this terrifying voices are currently everywhere in EU, unfortunately.
As someone from Poland, when now we also have very restricted access to abortion, Germany, Czech Republic and Austria are go to locations for everyone to get medical help.
Only better access to contraceptives, healthcare, safety and information is going to decrease abortion rates - and I believe that should be the global goal, as many of them could be avoided. But still - abortion should be legal, so women can be safe and keep on living.
Same in Canada. It's small now, but without political activism I don't see why it wouldn't just keep getting bigger. American culture is so influential, for better or worse.
You have a point, but you aren't looking at the other side. Terminating life, no matter when, has huge negative consequences to society as well. When do we stop? What if I decide that my neighbor's life is inconvenient to me? Should I have the right to terminate his life. It's a slippery slope downward either way. Why not protect life if it's going to be a mess? Stuff like this affects people all over the world too. It's not like one side has the right answer. So, again, why not protect all life?
I voted from overseas for the first time just for this issue. Couldn't believe all the the talk of people pushing against basic human rights. If you don't believe in abortion that's fine, just don't utilize it! Stopping others from access is an insult to women's rights and sets us back centuries.
Wrong. Murdering babies because they are an inconvenience sets us back millennium. Barbarian and Viking tribes murdered babies that were unwanted or inconvenient. Protecting children's rights is a modern day cause.
My first year as an overseas Ohio voter as well! This is super important to me because I have friends and family in Ohio still (and generally care about people).
Wait, you can vote for it if you live outside of Ohio?
@@kindness_cat6212 as long as your last address in the US was in Ohio. There's some specific forms to make sure you qualify, and you have to request absentee ballots every year.
Been voting from overseas for years now (and I’m not that old I’m barely in my mid 20s) and I’m so proud of all the new overseas voters
I’m in Ohio, voted Yes! And any ad on Facebook that I see asking people to vote no, is flooded with comments saying they’ve voted yes or are going to vote yes. Gives me hope.
Thank goodness. I was unsure until I looked through the comments because I'm in an area where seeing vote yes signs is rare (1 or 2 at most), but I also assume that's because it's also dangerous in our area. To express politics against the churches that is, last time I heard someone put up a sign that was different than the churches there were guns involved at their house. I also early voted yes, but hearing that others are doing it and it is supported online gives me more hope than I've had since it got announced
@@randomweeb9179 Having guns involved for an opposing opinion is very scary!! I’d be scared to express my opinion openly in your area as well. But I’m happy you voted true to your heart. A lot of people are having the same mindset as you and have voted yes to issue 1 & 2! ❣️I’m seeing a lot more young people in the polls this time around too, so there’s a good chance for the yes’s to win!!
@@randomweeb9179 if you don't mind me asking, where are you from in Ohio? County wise at least?
@@AmandaBrown-pu4ev me and my mom both voted Yes early. Well, she didn't for legalizing MJ. She thinks if it's legalized then people will put fentanyl in it.
@@kaylapounds1359 Franklin
I'm an Ohioan and a Catholic who is voting yes on issue 1. Thank you so much for spelling out the relevant facts in such an easy to understand way. I'll be sharing this video.
I'd also like to add that any law that demands care that will likely not result in a happy, healthy baby AND forces the parent to pay for that care (or go bankrupt trying to pay for it!) is disgusting. Doubly so, any law that denies care that could cause the death of the pregnant person but would still require payment from a grieving family for the care they were legally allowed to receive is reprehensible.
As a fellow Catholic--thank you. Abortion is Healthcare ❤
That is very confusing. The Catholic church teaches that every procured abortion is a moral evil. Do you believe abortion is a moral evil but people should have access to do evil things? Or do you just disagree with the Catholic Church but still call yourself catholic?
seconded here! the catholic church needs to take a step back and not push controlling women's bodies.
@@jellyrollyI mean it has nothing to do with one religion. It has to do with “religious” people who vote to restrict healthcare without any knowledge on how that is killing and severely harming people.
@jellyrolly so start with not spreading your legs. Abortion makes women look stupid. We have so many other options for birth control.
My miscarriage experience is what made me radically pro abortion. I wouldn't wish having to make those choices on anyone and you NEVER know what you would or wouldn't do, or what you would or wouldn't want until you're squarely in your unique situation. And to tie doctor's hands and create fear and shame around all of this just makes the whole horrific thing that much worse.
And once upon a time they considered miscarriage to be "abortion."
@@kaylapounds1359technically, medically speaking, it IS still considered spontaneous abortion.
@@kaylapounds1359it is abortion? It is your body aborting a pregnancy.
@cloudyskyz2237 if your body doesn't actually expel all of the contents, infection sets in and women die.
Check out her other videos about this topic
@@leahcook1659 true, but that doesn’t change anything? A miscarriage is still an abortion. Even in a medically induced abortion there can be complications.
Medicine should never be decided by politicians or politics!! Procedures should be between a doctor and patient, period.
Or pastors, honestly.
Right! That’s another huge problem!!!
@@lyndsaybrown8471 Pastors who think they are doctors are a joke and they wonder why church membership is decreasing.
My gallbladder popped and I was taken to a catholic hospital. They checked me out, and told me that I had to get my gallbladder removed immediately or I would die. I signed the "it's ok to operate on me" paperwork. Then they came up and told me that I'm not getting the operation because I was pregnant. I didn't even miss a period yet. And I'm ok with surviving without another baby. They said no. And refused to send me to another hospital and refused to feed me for a few days until I got a holy guy approval. But I wasn't allowed to talk to anyone about getting the surgery. No holy guys, no doctors, no family or friends. My friends and family ignored that last part and just threatened to sue everyone. Then after 4 days, I was approved to get the surgery, but they didn't give me enough anesthesia because of the pregnancy and I kept waking up during surgery. Never going to a catholic hospital for ANYTHING again.
How is this even legal!?
@@vidyasreeram2587 it wasn't. But I kept getting told that it was for over a year. And you can only sue your doctor for it if you file a claim within a year. I didn't know that at the time. I STILL don't know HOW to file a claim, because doctors and their staff don't let you know how to do that, even if you go to a different doctor to ask how.
WTF. Holy Guy that's insane.
I'm sorry, I couldn't not think of Holy Guy as a replacement for Holy $@!%. Seriously though, WTF, that's terrible.
@@vidyasreeram2587religious exemption. They can do whatever they want at catholic/religious hospitals and doc offices. My ob wouldnt even discuss tubal ligation with me because i wasnt married with at least 1 child even though i have zero desire to give birth
Voting YES on Tuesday!! So hopeful that this will pass. Also Ohio peeps, vote yes on Issue 2 as well to legalize recreational marijuana! 😁
Just adding to it, even for people who don't agree with recreational marijuana, having it legalized helps those who need and use medical marijuana get it easier and a looot less expensive. Allow people to get their treatment without going bankrupt.
@@randomweeb9179 yep, medical marijuana is very expensive, especially when there's no recreational competition to drive prices down. I pay almost as much per day for medical marijuana as I do for food. It is the only treatment that has stabilized my pain. Other things can bring down my pain, but this is the only one that makes my pain level stable for more than a few hours. I used to go from relatively fine (my "fine", but still a lot of pain) to non-functional in a matter of hours multiple times a week. Now if I'm fine (actually fine, still a bit of pain but completely manageable) on Wednesday I'm probably still gonna be fine on Sunday.
I hope voters in Ohio vote yes on issue 1 AND issue 2 this Tuesday
@randomweeb9179 it may also help to get it covered by insurance companies in the future. Although, they hardly cover insulin so I'm not too hopeful...
I’m in Ohio voter, but I am Abroad, proud to say that, despite the war, I got my ballot in and voted yes on 1 and 2
I'm in Ohio and I'll be voting yes on Issue 1. Just in the last couple weeks, the yes signs and ads have exploded. The Ohio subreddit is overwhelmingly pro issue 1. I think we have a good chance but we need everyone to get out and vote on Tuesday so we can save our choice.
Also in Ohio, voted yes early. I drive past the early voting location for our county quite a bit because we happen to live near it and the turnout has been amazing, so much that it's really bogging down traffic. It's been great to see, but I hope everyone gets out.
@annam9534 That's awesome to hear! I think the republicans have underestimated how important this issue is to people regardless of what side of the political spectrum they're on. Even for those who have never considered, wouldn't consider, or are too old to consider having an abortion. People understand it's not about us as individuals. I'm past reproductive age but I have a 17yo daughter. I want her to have access if she was SA'd (she's gay). I want everyone to have access to the reproductive choice that's best for them. It's none of my business... or anyone else's... what choices they make for their bodies.
@@michellerhodes5477Nope they didn't under estimate that is why they pulled the stunt in August, and that is also why they threw out 26,000 vote registers. That ALONE makes me really nervous. Plus their are a lot of Vote No signs around, slightly more than vote yes that I have seen, But the neighbor right next to me is mega based so that is nice. He has 2 vote yes signs.
What gives me a bit of hope is that their was a lot of support when we had the pro-abortion protest next to the Chick fil a, lots of people honked their horns for it, pretty decent turn out as well, and we had one of the winning spots for the Vote no in the August election as well.
Still nervous because you never know.
@@user-th1pv6ks5o Ohio passed issue 1! :D
Looks like we did it!! Issue 1 has passed in Ohio 🎉
Thanks Dr Jones for helping educate Ohio voters.
I helped! Truly feels good to make positive changes with my voice through voting
Following the abortion debate in the US is wild. My country, Finland, just passed a law that went into effect two months ago, lifting a lot of restrictions. Before this new law, you needed two doctors' approval (although over 90% are medical abortions), you had to have a reason. I always used to think it was messed up you had to justify your own decisions to two doctors, but I thought the reasons were good. Rape, incest, health of the mother, health of the child, socioeconomic reasons, if the mother already had 4 kids or was over 40 (I think, roughly 40) and if the mother was young. What baffles me about the American discussion is how age isn't mentioned at all. I think the age was like, if you're under 17 you can get an abortion, no questions asked. Imo, if some states are gonna restrict abortions, they should always allow abortions to minors, even if they were of age of consent. Anyone under 18 is a child, it's wild they would be forced to have a kid, or that they would need someone else's approval to get an abortion.
So agree. If having sex with that minor would be considered statutory rape, they should be allowed an abortion without question. Obviously what happened to them was a crime, even if you don't currently have a suspect.
The other side is also wild for a Finn. Abortion legal up to birth? Wtf?
@@XXXkazeXXXif the mother's life is at risk 🤦♀️ did you bother to look it up at all, or do you think that once a woman gets pregnant life doesn't matter anymore?
Was domestic violence a reason? A woman is at the highest risk of death from domestic violence during pregnancy than any other time.
Unfortunately one thing they didn't change in the law is the strict cut off at 24+0 weeks, no exceptions for the mother's health or lethal fetal anomalies.
I had an abortion in Finland at 23+4 weeks for a planned and very wanted pregnancy that unfortunately was not viable. I will forever be grateful that I was living in a country that not only allows such care, but makes it easy to access with terminations being provided at all public hospitals that have a delivery ward. That being said, more than 5 years later I still clearly remember the sheer anxiety and panic I felt at the time due to the 24 week cutoff. I would never wish that on another person. I feel so incredibly sorry for people who don't find out about fatal abnormalities until it is already too late to seek a termination.
When I had my amniocentesis I was advised that the genetic testing results would take 1-2 weeks. I was incredibly lucky that it only took 6 days to receive the results that confirmed that the baby had no chance of survival. The same day I received the results I signed the form to request a termination, and I was given an appointment at the hospital for the termination the following week. My appointment was 10am on the next day that Valvira met (permission from Valvira is required to perform abortions in 2nd trimester). At the time of my appointment the hospital had verbal permission from Valvira and could start the termination without waiting for written permission. I made it within the strict cutoff by only 3 days and I literally signed the form within 3 hours of receiving the diagnosis. At every point in the process I took the first appointment offered to me. There was no possible way for me to get the testing or results any earlier.
If the genetic results had taken the full 2 weeks instead of 6 days my options would have been:
1. request an abortion based on the ultrasound results, not knowing if I was making the right decision and potentially only finding out after the pregnancy had already been terminated
2. continue the pregnancy and wait for the baby to die, taking on all of the health risks of pregnancy as well as the mental health issues that come with being forced to continue a non-viable pregnancy against your will
3. travel to another country that allows 3rd trimester abortions and pay entirely out of pocket since it will not be covered by any health insurance or the EU reciprocal healthcare (which is obviously not financially viable for most people).
To force a person to choose whether to have an abortion while their test results are still pending is barbaric. It is just as bad to force a person to continue a non-viable pregnancy because they found out the pregnancy wasn't viable after an arbitrary cutoff point. I can't see any way of justifying a strict 24 week cutoff for a non-viable pregnancy and I wish this had been changed.
As an Ohioan thank you so much for this. I am so nervous about this vote with all the lies that have been spread about it
Abortions is healthcare and should definitely be codified. I think limits need to be lifted on abortions too. It’s so important to me that “late term” (third trimester) abortion is legalized in more places. After watch the documentary After Tiller I realized how important it was. All the cases shown are of families that very much wanted a child but know that their baby won’t make it. To me it’s cruel to force a person to carry a baby that will not make it. I grew up in conservative Missouri and debated with my classmates in high school that abortions should be legal. This was in 2003/2004. I grew up in STL and moving just 20 minutes south put me in an area that was incredibly conservative. Luckily I live in Chicago now and I feel very fortunate.
It angers me so much, too. Roe v. Wade's entire point was that it's not even our business why someone goes to a doctor or what they're doing there. The fact this is even an argument anymore in 2023 when they reached the same conclusions back in the 60's is maddening. Instead we've invented strawmen, the idea of people using abortion as birth control, the suggestion someone person who was pregnant for 7 months would suddenly just decide "idonwandothisanymore." Neither of these people exist, but they allow people to not think critically on the situation.
@@NotALotOfColonial_SpaghettiToG They’re creating boogeymen to fight against instead of listening to real people 🙃
💗💗 IT PASSED!!!!!💗💗 Ohio voter who lives in Canada here.
I remember marching in a pro-choice rally in Cincinnati when I was in highschool (way back in the 80's). And it's sad that we're back to this.
I voted via an overseas ballot, but am glad my vote wasn't even necessary! I'm relieved not only because this is so absolutely needed for women's healthcare, but also a hopeful step forward. Everything has been so backwards that this is a ray of sunshine. So let's keep those rays going and get this in every state!!
I came to the comments looking for what finally happened. Thank you ❤
As an Ohioan, I WILL be voting yes on tuesday! We need this more than ever. People's rights are important, and most importantly, their mental AND physical health matter. Thank you for talking about this!
yes so true i agree with you
For anyone in Ohio’s neighbor PA, Pennsylvania has a state Supreme Court seat on the ballot that could change the make up of the court to be against abortion rights and other rights if the seat goes conservative. If you’re in PA please vote!
Exactly. Judges matter. I've already turned in my mail in ballot and voted for all the Democratic judges.
@@letitiajeavons6333 if they didn't do away with excluding party next to the judge's name, I'm sure that the 2 democrats that ran last time would've gotten elected. But Republicans changed that rule because in 2016 when they didn't have the party next to the name, 2 Democrats won seats, so they knew they had to change that. Democratic voters mostly look into things, Republicans usually don't, so while democrats would've voted for the democratic judges, Republicans (without knowing party affiliation) would've just randomly picked.
Thank you Dr. Jones for continuing to cover these topics! Medical issues need to be dealt with by doctors, not politicians. Why is that so hard for some to comprehend?
They want to shame and control women
Not just that but don't be using religion to push an agenda bc it does not belong.
I am a woman in Canada. Ever since last year, I've followed all the development WRT abortion/reproductive rights in the US more than our own politics here at home. I am enraged on behalf of all US women. I hope common sense wins, and I dare say that the few victories ever since the overturning last year (meaning the couple of times abortion went on the ballot and won) are giving me a little hope. I support all of you over there and sending strength and good vibes.❤
No, women shouldn't have the right to axe babies. Women are causing their own issues
@@user-ym1mk5mx9l FBI? Please one of y’all put this psycho on one of your lists.
Southern Ohioan here!
I'm currently not able to vote on this due to being a minor, but I'm so happy that you're discussing this!!
And I'll bet those people didn't believe in getting the covid vaccine or adhering to the safety precautions in 2020/2021.
I’m also from a very conservative area in southern Ohio, so I totally feel you. Watching the 2016 elections as a minor (in horror) was bad enough, but it’s honestly worse now. I hope it at least motivates you to register to vote as soon as you turn 18! For now, I promise many of us are voting with you in mind
Aces in conservative states unite 💜🧁
I'm in Flor-Duh & apparently we're in competition with Texas to restrict reproductive rights! This state has become a giant pool of hate.
It's become so awful here in so many ways that not a day goes by where I'm not looking for any opportunity to get out of here!
THANK YOU for addressing Ohio's Issue 1! This is such an important election for reproductive rights!
Issue 1 in Ohio got passed today!!!!!!! 🥳🥳 SO INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE WHO VOTED🥰🥰🥰
Congrats!
These new abortion laws make the handmaids tale look like the future we may have.
Having a father who recently died, he signed a DNR. And what he was refusing was the same, I think, as what you are talking about for a fetus born alive at around 20 weeks gestation. And the “born alive” constitutional amendment would REQUIRE something called “HEROIC” measures to be performed, regardless of the wishes of the parent! They are incredibly INVASIVE and, in some cases, PAINFUL measures!!
And if they work. The child goes on to live its life. Is that so bad?
@@lynnlee8194 Which is pretty unlikely, and if the fetus does manage to live they would most likely have severe health issues. So it could be hell for them
@@lynnlee8194they're almost certainly going to suffer and die horribly which is going to traumatize the parents and the health care workers that are forced to do it. When a family makes a choice to do heroic measures, generally there's at least some measure of chance and at least they are affirming that choice. When you're forced to do something it puts another level of horror onto something versus actively choosing to do something. I don't think you would sit there and torture a puppy for 6 months, bad enough to give it say a 5% chance of surviving and the walk away emotionally intact. So I don't know why you think the same would happen with an actual child. 😵💫 I chalk it up to people just not knowing how horrific keeping somebody alive with machines can actually be. It's not like the movies, and preemies are so delicate that it literally tears their bodies apart.
If you think a girl is old enough and mature enough to carry a baby to term and be a mother, then she is old enough to decide if she wants an abortion without parental consent.
Thrilled to report, myself and my fellow ohioans, ISSUE 1 PASSED!!! its official!
I just saw! And had to come here. Apparently by a landslide?
Amazing you guys!!! As a Canadian I’m so happy for you. Keep it up. And don’t let a Republican represent you.
@Mama_Bear524 That's right, and the Republicans knew they would likely lose. Every time abortion rights have been on the ballot since Dobbs, the people vote for their rights. I'm tired of them pretending like American are split on this issue
OHIO HERE: My 24 yr old daughter & I voted early- YES to Issue 1!!!!!!
I had a still birth at 22 weeks, my daughter was absolutely not viable and as traumatic as it was, having her in the NICU and the trauma and heartbreak involved in that absolutely would have been even worse - especially of she still didn't survive. It would be horrifying if we were forced to go through that.
There were a lot of signs posted saying to Vote No on Issue 1 in my area that said “protect parents rights” underneath and it had me so confused I thought voting no would protect our rights 🤦🏼♀️🙄 definitely manipulative
I mean I guess it protects men's "rights" to force their partners to birth their children, provide men with leverage to keep their pregnant partners trapped and controlled, etc etc...
Yes I have been seeing those signs everywhere too and could not wrap my mind around them.
I hate the ones that say "Protect Children" so much.
So I won't reshare the video because I don't want it getting additional views but "Protect Parents' Rights" is supposed to mean if your daughter were to get an abortion as a parent you wouldn't have any say whether she did or not. There's a "Closed Door" Ad regarding this I saw online. I was also thoroughly confused if parents' rights thing was supposed to protect the father or something but I guess that's not it.
@@Dragon_of_Rampage OK good?? If they are a minor I think that 100% of time it is for health reasons, and minors die more easily from child birth.
The closed door for everyone else is to prevent coercion, same should go for kids as well.
I’m not in Ohio, but am looking forward to voting to incorporate reproductive autonomy into the state constitution in Maryland!
One thing that isn't really talked about is when I worked in a fertility clinic we would perform D&C on patients that are in the early stages of miscarriage or when the pregnancy is non-viable often rather than send them home to have the miscarriage at home, so they could move past the tragedy in a humane way. It was always a bad day in the clinic when this happened but it was part of so many people going on their fertility journey, these were wanted pregnancies but circumstances made it necessary to have the procedure. A D&C is a part of fertility care that is not often spoke of and I would rather see a person have access to having a D&C when needed in all circumstances.
This is why I want abortion to be legal in all cases. The Venn diagram between abortion and miscarriage management is a single circle.
I don't want people to go to jail for miscarriages.
I don't want people to die from miscarriages.
Therefore I don't want abortion to be punished or restricted by politicians or anyone else.
I felt the same way about Roe v Wade, and was in shock for a while when it was struck down. I'm terrified in the US as someone who has needed, has accessed, and may need an abortion in the future. But I am far more fearful for those less fortunate than I that can not even begin to overcome the barriers the right is trying to put into place. Humans are not cattle.
The overturning of roe v wade actually made a lane for the states to open up less restrictive or more restrictive abortion access based upon what the majority of that states population votes upon. Removing federal oversight of abortion which is great. That means we the people get to decide what we want based upon a vote and not a panel of people in Washington telling you can and cannot do. Letting the people decide on a state by state basis giving freedom back to the people and that's democracy. Not everyone will see eye to eye but we live in a society in which we the people are able to create right and laws based upon what the majority of the people in each state want. There's always going to be a side that "wins" and a side that "loses" its impossible for everyone to get what they want. We have to govern based upon what "works" for the largest amount of people. So in a nutshell the overturning of roe v wade has given more power to the people to govern themselves, yes it may be rough at first because of the destabilizing situation of turning the decision back into the peoples hands on a state by state basis. For example I'd assume youd be happy if roe v wade was overturned and lets say for the sake of this example was against abortion and federally enforced. Well it works both ways. Its good that the federal government has given up some authority becuase the fed shouldnt be involved so deeply in our daily lives as it is.
@jeroddowdle7018 this sounds like some states rights bs or librarian nonsense.
@@Ash-fo3ii freedom to individually govern as our founding fathers intended and not have the fed have to much oversight and power over the people is not nonsense. Do you want the fed to have the absolute power over you ? If you do you might want to not live in a constitutional republic where were have democracy.
@jeroddowdle7018 A) I'm a socialist so I prefer government to privatization. B) you sound a bit radicalized; wanting to kick people out if they don't share your view
I never said anything about kicking people out of a country at all. So I have no idea where that's coming from, I'd like you to cite where I stated that people should be kicked out of the country if they don't agree with me... Oh wait you can't because I never said such a thing. And I'm sorry if I don't wamtbthe country I live in to be a socialist country because socialist governments in every aspect have killed more people than anything throughout its implementation in history. It leads to extreme poverty and absolutely zero chance to advance in life also restricts growth in tech sectors, medical fields and other extremely skilled trades that require a lot of hard work and knowlegde but in a socialist setting they would never be rewarded properly, ultimately resulting in less and less people making that effort because they know they will receive the same compensation as a fry cook. So I'm sorry if it seems radical to you that I don't want other people having absolute control over my life. Socialism is stealing from people that work hard and then "redistributing" the stolen money to other people but not before taking out a huge chunk of it and filling there pockets.
It's never ever a good time when my favorite TH-camrs talk about my state.... We are truely the Florida of the Midwest.
I'm right next door in Indiana honey. I feel you.
@@kellibrenneke2253 I remember when I feared Indiana's laws leaking over here because of Pence. Now we're the toxic one. We've lost a lot of our good Ob/Gyn doctors also. I had a hysterectromy last September and I was one of her last patients. My post op care was all done by a different doc (who is still awesome) because she was one of the few abortion specialists and left the state so she could still practice and safe lives.
I've grown up in Ohio & lived in FL. This statement is Soo true!!! We're the cold FL lol notice with headlines it's either FL man or Ohio man 😂
@@KaitLynnHt Chin up. We're on the eve of being the first red state to enshrine abortion rights protections into our constitution. "Thoughts and prayers" for the nut jobs.
@@ginzo666I hope thats the case. I'm scared I'm a forty year old woman. My husband is 52 a unplanned pregnancy would hurt us.
WE DID IT! WE PASSED ISSUE 1!!!!!
The miscarriage video makes me so angry. I'm in Georgia, I just got married, and I asked my OBGYN how these laws are specifically affecting our area because we'd like to have a kid in the next few years. She told me in no uncertain terms that if anything happens, she can't do a damn thing about it. The closest state with proper emergency care is Virginia (7 hour drive). This is not sustainable, it is not safe for anyone who becomes pregnant, and the waxing poetic about "exceptions" makes me so livid.
On not using the word "woman", like MDJ said, children are a thing. Also they've been testing birth control options for people with male reproductive systems. That protects them in the future, too. Not to mention some of these pro life groups are anti-condom of all things. So yes, individual is appropriate.
Ohioan here! Lets go! Vote yes on 1!
It's so scary that minors need parental permission or to go to court for an abortion, what if the parents are abusive and what if the father caused the pregnancy?
Abortion doesnt unrape anybody. Just creates victims and lets the rapist continue to do what they do without living evidence. A paternity test would convict. Why kill the innocent one? They dont deserve to be hated. They didnt cause their conception.
Is it scary? But what happens in the event of human trafficking or abuse? Shouldn't a legal guardian or parent be notified if a minor is secretly seeking out an abortion to conceal rape or incest? We don't realize that sex trafficking among minors is huge business in the US. Laws that don't require the consent of a parent further allows abusers to hurt girls and young women. I couldn't get a cough drop from my teacher without parental permission. But suddenly we have moved to allow a kid to have invasive surgery without their parent's knowledge? How, Sway?
@@thisistheday597 if a minor has a pregnancy caused by incest there's a good chance the legal guardian caused it. I don't know where you got your information about sex trafficking but abusive parents are often a factor that makes people vulnerable to exploitation. Parental involvement doesn't make every child safer. I don't know why your teacher would give you cough drops in the first place and it's not relevant. In the UK minors don't need parental consent for their safety and I believe this is the more common policy across the world.
@@thisistheday597 there's also a difference between notifing a guardian and requiring their consent.
@@imsmolandangery4274 Explain. Because as a legal guardian I would want to have both.
The fact we now have to remind people that pregnancy is basically a life-threatening condition is so sad. Only 120 years ago it would have been discussed it's an OK risk because boys are more important than their mom's for the society...
I absolutely agree that it's insane that we have to remind people of that. But I also think that your second point isn't necessarily true. Pregnancy was WAY more dangerous then and that didn't go unrecognized. Even from the coldest perspective, an alive woman is capable of having more children; a dead woman is not. And people have loved their spouses throughout history. That doesn't mean abortion was openly societally accepted, but it absolutely happened, and certainly there were men who would prefer their wife alive. And even when it wasn't socially accepted, it happened for thousands of years.
If its so life threatening why are there like 9 billion people..
@lynnlee8194 because more people live through the pregnancy and because more of the at risk pregnancies are ended. For your information, in the whole word, almost 300 000 people died from carrying a child in 2020.
Also, it's not because we don't die from something anymore it is not life-threatening. Take HIV. Nowadays, it is rare to develop SIDS and die if you get HIV and have access to health care. Doesn't mean HIV isn't a life-threatening virus.
@awaredeshmukh3202 of course I can just agree with the details and context you add 😊 to reassure you, I was just trying to point out a society shift I'm not talking about individual decisions and how humans had the same feelings and bravery we still show nowadays. My point is, before it was admitted a pregnancy could kill the mom. What was discussed, when anything was debated, was indeed if it's worth it or not. Now some people argue being pregnant is a completely fine state for a body.
@@annabees I can absolutely agree with that! :)
I swear to got if they actually ban abortion I’m going to move please vote yes because I don’t want to live with an abortion ban
if they vote yes i might actually consider moving to ohio. i'm looking to get tf out of texas and ohio was on my no-go list because it's so heavily republican but enshrining reproductive rights in their constitution would go a long way to reassuring me it's safe to live there. plus there are some cheap-ass houses in ohio!
Like others on here, I'm from Ohio. I voted early and voted Yes. Voting yes doesn't mean you necessarily believe in abortion. I personally don't know how I'd deal with that kind of emergency situation. But you don't have to agree with something to let other people have that right for themselves.
Then the real question is, why did the people who put the issue forward, not rewrite the law to make the exceptions? I feel like the hard truth is, people want to go back to terminating a pregnancy just because they can. Because it’s what is easy. Not what is best. We live in a foul world. We forget the real choice begins at sex. This is why birth control needs to be available for both sexes, and people need to be educated more. I was taught that sex can lead to a pregnancy from a young age, starting the conversation from my parents. I remember in high school being taught about birth control, and for a public school, how much the information was lacking. I learned more about sex and had a better sex education from my private school, than I did from the public high school in Ohio. It’s pretty terrible. Then the whole family issues. We need to educate everyone better and encourage others to make better relationship decisions, in a kind loving way.
@@kagehato Most people don't get an abortion as a means of birth control. That is nonsense.
What you're essentially preaching is that people who made on-the-fly decisions to have unprotected sex should be forced to follow through with having a child they didn't want or aren't able to raise healthily. That's wild.
Terrifying time to be alive, isn't it?
As someone who lives (and can vote in) Ohio, I'm so glad you covered this! I wanted to know more about it, but there's misinformation everywhere 😵💫
I live in Ohio and live near one of the largest early voting areas, and every day, the line is consistently 3 blocks long or more.it was the same when they made that special election to try and stop issue one from getting on this ballot in August. It is clear to me the people are in disagreement with the government.
Update from Ohio: Issue One not only passed, it wasn't even close! The final margin was 56-44 for Yes.
MDJ, As an Ohioan I'm very glad you're covering this. I've been screaming to everyone outside of Ohio about this issue and I'm really scared. I'm trying to get everyone I know to vote yes, and I've been even trying to convince my anti-choice parents. Thank you for discussing this thing I'm terrified about.
Thank you for doing videos like this one MDJ. I often share them with my 16 year old non-binary child so they understand what these terms mean and the gravity of what can happen if we lose our rights.
This, my second of three children, was born at 27 weeks due to a partial abruption at 26 weeks. We were just beyond the cusp of viability. We both almost died.
I will always vote to protect
The rights of the individual, and allow the medical community to do everything they can to protect their patients.
It was the worst day of my life, and also the scariest. I can’t imagine what would have happened if they refused to help me because their heart was beating while I was bleeding to death.
It's so painful to hear that crap happens in "the land of the free". More like "the land of the prudish" or "the land of where people with female reproductive organs are not actually free at all".
We've never all been truly free, have we? It seems to me that we can either approach that from a cynical perspective ("we were never free and the people who claimed to stand for freedom were racists and sexists and more"), or from an aspirational perspective ("this nation has always had flaws, but we have gotten closer to achieving what we said we wanted with every generation, and it's our job to keep that going")
@@awaredeshmukh3202 I'm not from the US. Although I actually studied the US in uni and have my diploma on one of the aspects of modern US - Canada cooperation (immigration).
@@catherine_404 I'm so sorry for the assumption!
Puritanical fuckery. If life is so precious, why do we not have universal healthcare? Why are children not clothed, fed, educated, loved, cared for, protected from gun violence and abuse? It's not that the politicians think babies are humans, it's that they think women aren't. Women are incubators and sex objects (but only if a man wants to objectify her).
Yeah and the whole reason why those people are not free is because they are female in other words it's sexist b*******.
I live in Ohio and I admit it I AM FRIGHTENED. I hope to never need to have an abortion, but I definitely want to keep the option should it be required. My health isn't great and if it's me or an embryo I want to be able to make the choice myself. The steps backward in women's rights is appalling! I made sure I went down and voted early just so I didn't have a bad day and miss my opportunity to weigh in on something so important.
I'm in Ohio and already vote yes. It's scary that Dewine is trying to scare people into voting No
Legislating healthcare to restrict what treatments people can access sure SEEMS like practicing medicine without a license.
Unwanted pregnancy would be outlawed as torture if men could be forced to endure it.
Checks out considering alot of things thwy don't believe us on until it happens to them, then they want our comfort, and we still wouldn't get an apology probably 😔
There was a tumblr post that said something along the lines of "imagine if there was a machine (and laws in place), that if a woman didn’t want to carry a pregnancy it could be transferred to the FATHER. How fast do you think abortion would no longer be an issue?"
I've also seen a post (can't remember where it originated but I feel like I've seen it on twitter,) that said "If men had periods, menstrual products would be free." (Or something to that effect.)
100 percent true
If men could get pregnant there would be abortion available at every gas station.
I live in Missouri, it was already written in and we were THE first state to implement a total ban, rape victims included which is sick....Women can travel out of state yes, but these lawmakers seem to forget that the majority of single women in Missouri live below the poverty line so that is really not an option..Why can't Missouri put this to a vote for We The People to decide? It would pass and they know it so they are doing everything in their powers to keep it from a vote.
Arizona didn't even implement a ban, just reverted to a pre statehood ban that was still on the books.
I'm in MO too. They're playing around with the wording for potential items to vote on. To me, it seems like they'll keep screwing around until the deadline has passed to avoid it being on the ballot.
The minor patient arguments always make head hurt "children are toooooo young to cobtrol their bodies/health/reproductive choices but old enough to be a mother!"
I get what you’re saying but the ages for kids to make their own medical choices are getting younger and younger. We are also incarcerating more and more minors as adults in their crimes. If you can decide on puberty blockers at 12, 13, 14 you have the maturity to have a child too. Kids are either minors or they are not. Transitioning your body, kids definitely shouldn’t be deciding that so young. I think the transition issues will work against kids who conceive say in rape or incest. It’s just sad how we pick and choose to help kids.
@@bethanywhite877 A minor wanting to express their gender identity is not the same an enforced birth
@@nicholasking4302You shouldn’t be murdering your children.
What is even more sad about the 10 year olds case is that many people here still accuse her of lying. Instead of following the case and seeing a suspect got arrested they listened to the politician and went with it.
Yep. My mother wanted her thrown in prison FOR LIFE without chance of parole "for harming a child", but also thinks a 6 MONTH sentence "is more than enough" for child rapists. That's not even as long as the pregnancy she wanted that child forced through.
@@waffles3629She wanted the 10 year old in prison for life...after she was raped...
Dang, you got a special one, there.
@@waffles3629 I would cut my mother out of my life for saying that. No more spending time with her on Thanksgiving and or Christmas. That poor ten-year-old girl, I hope she knows she did nothing wrong and what happened to her wasn't her fault.
@@maggie6152 yep. She wants anyone who has an abortion in prison for life. Even if the person has been in a coma for three years (no, you didn't do that math wrong, the person had no way of consenting to anything that happened). Or it's ectopic. Or the fetus is clinically dead. Yeah, she's special all right.
@@waffles3629 ... she doesn't think rape is harming a child?
Ugh it’s like freedom of religion only counts when conservative Christians and Catholics feel oppressed. I said it when Roe was overturned…All the laws the states were enacting to restrict abortion rights were an infringement on people’s freedom of religion.
Love your videos!
What’s funny is the Bible doesn’t even restrict it. I can think of 3 separate times a fetus was treated differently than a child, most notably Exodus ch22, where the punishment for accidentally killing one was just a fine. The Jews have the Old Testament and they don’t forbid it. The Muslims have both books and they don’t forbid it either. Just these people infamous for not following their own book!
I am so thankful that you are offering a platform for conversation and education on these topics!
This reminds me of Kansas when we had to vote on abortion access.
Not so fun fact: Ever since Kansans agreed abortion access is a right, our government officials have been trying to overturn that decision or make it null and void.
Never stop paying attention, Ohio, even if you win. But, wishing you all the best in this fight! 💜
I don’t normally post but I’m from Ohio and I would like to say thank you so much for making a dedicated video about Issue 1! The amount if propaganda I have seem on both sides is devastating, and no one is mentioning that there is so much more at stake beyond abortion! So thank you Dr. Jones for helping us fight for our rights!!
I live in Ohio and voted early yesterday! The amount of ‘Vote no one 1’ signs were really scaring me but fingers crossed 🤞🏻
It passed !! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I go to college in VA but my "home" address is in OH so Ive never been sure where to vote... this issue is what made my choice for me- sent my absentee ballot in a couple of weeks ago! They had a special election in the summer that would change how votes are counted (I can't remember the actual details off the top of my head) that was really only meant to make it easier for abortion to be restricted in November. That item was also called issue 1, but to prevent that change (not make it easier to restrict) you had to vote no... even the language is manipulative and confusing... THANK YOU for talking about this!
I was born and raised in Ohio. Lived there for 25 years before I moved away. It was always a “purple” state when I lived there and to see it become more and more conservative has been very disheartening particular on issues like abortion. I hope that everyone gets out and votes and makes their voices heard on this really important issue.
We are red now sadly. I really want to stay and fight it , but it's getting harder.
Thank you for breaking down Issue 1 for those voting in Ohio and those who are watching this election play out. I see the "Vote Yes" and "Vote No" signs a lot while driving in Ohio, and I actually laugh when I see the "vote no" signs that say "Protect Parents' Rights", "Protect Children", and, ironically enough, "Protect Women" (as a woman who is currently pregnant, I do not feel protected). I'm just ready for this election to be over, but thank you again for all the info you're providing to give those who haven't voted the ability to make a well-informed decision.
The "Protect Women" signs make no sense.
My son and daughter in law early voted today in Ohio to support their 3 month old daughter’s right to bodily autonomy. Love them.
I think something not talked about enough is the implicit sexism. There is no equivalent for male bodies. Even if in some alternate universe, abortion bans didn’t cause harm, they would still be blatantly unconstitutional.
the sheer fact that they consider a fetus a person from conception when it comes to abortion, but not when it comes to CHILD SUPPORT really says it all.
Everyone is talking about how sexist it is…
I am in Ohio and I voted absentee as I am working the polls on November 2nd. I voted yes on issue one. Thank you for a very informative video.
“Religious” zealot: “abortion is the intentional killing of a ‘human being’ and that can never help women” . 🤨🤔🧐 I don’t know, I feel like a person who is going to die if they don’t get an abortion, and get one and live… I don’t know, I feel like they might feel pretty damn helped!!!
I feel 100% helped after ending a pregnancy that tried to kill me! So glad it was before Roe v Wade was overturned.
People love to make choices for other people!
Watching your video now, @01:56 am 11-8-23. Ohio has voted YES! Choice prevails! 🎉
"leave the freaking medicine to the doctors!" I want this on a T-shirt
Ohio resident and devoted voter. I voted a big fast YES on Issue 1 yesterday. I don't understand how the right claims to be against big government and gov't interference, but insists on govt dictating what i do with MY uterus. Pro-choice is NOT pro-abortion. It IS pro-autonomy. Let's get that straight.
I am also from Ohio, I will vote yes on Tuesday. We must protect our rights here. The misinformation spread over the last few months is ridiculous. Thanks for presenting the facts!!
I loved in OH until a few months ago, and listening to the TV ads telling people to vote against this amendment made me _furious!_ I am so glad that you took the time to discuss and break down what was actually happening here. I understood that voting yes was important, but I thought that was more of a preventative measure than it was to ensure reproductive rights.
Even as someone with the capacity to provide baby-batter (but not parts to produce, sustain a baby), this is a near-no-brainer. Once “Zealots” start going after such personal rights, they go after everyone’s rights.
exactly. i don't want to see anyone fooling themselves into thinking "well this issue doesn't affect me" or "it'll stop with that minority group," FASCISM DOES NOT STOP. it comes for everyone sooner or later.
@@dietotaku exactly! I have had my tubal so only a hail Mary chance of pregnancy for me(which I would like the choice to not go through a 3rd pregnancy and cesearean in that case for sure) but I have little girls who even though they are young 6&3(the 6 yro is only 4 yrs younger than than the 10yro they were disgustingly discussing how a pregnancy was an opportunity for that poor child🤮 so I want to fight hard to keep that right here lord forbid she ever needs it). It just makes me and the hubs sick to our stomach that they may not have that right so we have been pushing friends and fam to go vote and filled out our absentee ballots last night ❤️
Yep! My husband doesn't want kids either. They aren't just forcing it on me and our baby wouldn't be one of those 100,000 white rich ppl want. It would be half Haitian and end up in the foster care system. I would also have to collect welfare because we can't even afford basic healthcare, let alone a $20,000 birth bill.
"baby batter" ew. Lol
@@triciaboo1204, good choice on the absentee ballots. Pregnancy should not be ‘an option’ for anyone under their state’s respective age of consent-even if they have had a comprehensive Sex Ed talk with their parents!
If you are against abortion then just never have an abortion but don’t take away another person’s rights to reproductive health care
@@rhymerlegend2717
Troll harder, daddy
@@beetlebob4675Calling people daddy is just weird.
Murdering your children is not a right. Reproductive healthcare implies bringing that baby to being born.
@@Commentary173
I'm trolling the troll
I had a baby at 20 weeks, he lived for 1 1/2 hrs. I am glad the hospital wasn't forced to try to keep him alive
😢 Sorry for your loss
I am in a radical ban state (Kentucky) and cried tears of relief when Ohio voters passed Issue 1 and Virginia blocked Governor Youngkin's stated goal of getting statehouse majorities to ban abortion. Kentucky has gone nucking futs and we need our neighbors to stay sane. So, for the next few years, our closest clinic remains 2 hours away in VA. I don't have a uterus in this fight but I work in a college and with young adults (and adults of all ages) and I want people to have the same sexual and reproductive freedom that I did--and even better. Roe is not enough. Roe was the floor. We want full reproductive JUSTICE! The forced birthers are going to rue the day their SCOTUS overturned Roe. They are going to long for the good old days of Roe. They keep LOSING! Repro Rights win 7/7! (Even in Kentucky!)
Why would you support murdering innocent children? Seriously, what is wrong with you?
Thank you Doctor Mama Jones, for being brave and having these conversations! Please stay safe!
I'm not in Ohio, I'm not even in the US, and *I'D* vote yes for this!
As an Ohioan thank you for addressing this issue. After my first and only baby is born in December I am having my tubes removed. Why I am scared of issue 1 failing. I have had 4 miscarriages and 1 of them could have killed me if I didn't get treatment. I am scared of getting pregnant again and leaving my husband and son. I hope and pray that issue 1 passes. It is sad that in 2023 women have to be scared of getting pregnant because the government won't stay out of their business.
I was in Ohio recently and the amount of false information I saw just on signage was staggering. The “No” contingent has to be dumping multiple millions of dollars into this.
I am so glad you are talking about this because it is important to hear from experts instead of religious folks or politicians on this and many other topics.
In Ohio. Voted early for Issue 1!
i like that you pointed out the logical inconsistency of exceptions to abortion bans. as i put it to anti-abortion activists, "abortion: a sometimes murder." it really just lays bare the fact that they're not actually concerned about the life of the fetus, they want to punish women (not men) for having recreational sex. and the ones that DON'T make exceptions for rape victims want to relegate women to incubators, lacking even the choice in whether or not we reproduce as it is solely up to the man who chooses to impregnate us. they want to bring about gilead from "a handmaid's tale." i also am always a fan of the argument you raised that banning abortion bestows on the fetus a right that no other human being, living or dead, has: the right to take possession of another person's body and utilize it as a life support system without consent. we don't take organs from DEAD PEOPLE without prior consent, but we would take the entire body from a woman and grant control of it to a clump of cells that barely has a central nervous system.
the brilliant part about the wording on viability is that it means if a woman is pregnant with a fetus that has been deemed "incompatible with life," deformities that make it impossible for that fetus to survive outside the womb, then *the mother's health does not have to be at risk* to terminate that pregnancy *at any point.* because the only restriction is predicated on viability as defined by A LICENSED PHYSICIAN, such a pregnancy will never be restricted because the fetus will never achieve viability. whoever wrote this amendment really made sure all their bases were covered!
I know right! It's like they accept "hey, for many people carrying a pregnancy resulting from rape would be extremely painful, traumatic, and life-altering" and then their brains stop and they don't realize that for many people who haven't been raped, it's still painful, traumatic, and life-altering! Rape is horrible but are you going to tell me that losing a job because you can't work while pregnant, when you're already in poverty, isn't horrible? Are you going to tell me having to drop out of school and abandon your dreams isn't horrible? Staying with an abusive partner isn't horrible? Being disowned by your parents because they disapprove of you being sexually active? Giving birth to another child when you already have more than you can take care of? Giving birth in general is pretty horrible! Why does someone else get to draw the line for when the pain and sacrifices YOU have to undergo is sufficient to end a pregnancy?
@@melodramusicbecause continuing a pregnancy and giving birth inflicts avoidable suffering on a sentient being, which can be avoided without harm to anyone that can actually experience suffering or pain. And because pregnancy isn't passive, pregnancy actively uses someone's body and if they don't consent to that, they don't have to let it continue. You don't have to donate your blood or kidneys to save someone else, including your child and including someone you caused a medical issue to. Why is pregnancy different, why is it the only time you force someone to give up their right to their body to help keep someone else alive?
@@melodramusicthere's a difference between killing someone and stopping someone from being inside your body, using your body, and altering your body with the side effect of them dying. You are the only person who has a right to use your body. Anyone else can only use it as long as you want them to. Even if you're dead, someone can't harvest your organs unless you agreed to it while alive. You can't cut out my kidney because I only really need one and yours are failing, and if I choose to selfishly keep both my kidneys, you can't accuse me of murdering you. I simply refused you something you were never entitled to, and it resulted in you not making it. And since it's my kidneys, I get to decide whether the sacrifice of giving one of them up is worth it for me or not. Same exact deal with a pregnancy. A fetus isn't entitled to the body of the person it's in. It's not entitled to forcing them to go through nine months of actual pregnancy, through giving birth, and through any postpartum effects, just like you're not entitled to my kidney.
@@melodramusic you don't have a parental obligation to a nonsentient clump of cells. Even if you did, you have no legal obligation to do even something as minor as a blood donation for your child. So why do you have a legal obligation to provide a whole nine months of pregnancy as well as the hours to days of giving birth?
Just because something in the uterus has to come out eventually doesn't mean you don't get a say in how it happens. Theres a difference between a medicinal abortion at eight weeks, which literally just feels like a heavy period, and giving birth. Abortion is safer than childbirth. Abortion (especially early on) is way easier physically than childbirth. Just because the fetus comes out eventually doesn't mean you get to force someone to be pregnant for nine months and grow it and get it out in the most painful and physically demanding way possible, just because then it has a higher chance of being alive. You don't get to violate someone's right to their body to increase the chance of someone else being alive. It's literally that simple.
Also the vast majority of rape cases won't even get to court, not all will be actually found to be rape (by far) and it's just generally unacceptable
The rape exceptions only proof that on some level they want to use pregancy/children as a punishment for woman
WE DID IT! ISSUE 1 PASSES IN OHIO! 🥳🥳🥳❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🎉🎉🎉
THEY CAN'T TAKE AWAY OUR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!
I voted early and voted yes! Thank you for making this video. I hope we are able to get issue one to pass on Tuesday!
Thank you so much for addressing and explaining these topics! As a teen living in Texas, it is heartbreaking to see healthcare and reproductive rights being taken away from so many who need it. I've been trying to learn more about all of these issues so that I can hopefully help advocate for policies in my state to ensure that everyone's rights are protected. I really enjoy your positive, informative content
i'm glad you're continuing to cover these topics, because i (and i'm sure many others) would've never know what was going on or why it was happening. also, yes, politicians make terrible doctors in more ways than one.
As a guy I urge my fellow men to stop trying to control women’s bodies 🤦♂️
lol But....but...but how can we stop controlling women's bodies if they don't want to have sex with us willingly? What about our DICKS!? Won't somebody think about our DICKS! lol I cracked myself up typing that.
@@sarahalbright7864 lol
@@sarahalbright7864This is a bad argument. Most of these situations happen because of sex outside of marriage.
It’s not her body.
@@Commentary173 Yes it actually is
“The words that came out of his stupid mouth” ❤ 👏🏻 ❤