I don't believe in abortion .. unless it's rape incest and a few other reasons however I am a LDN and yes it just blows my mind how this happens and no one in the OB field sat and explained ! Mum of 5 and my oldest 20 is autistic and my 4yr old also is autistic my middle three do not .have it . they also don't really have a exact diagnosis for being autistic so they use the words on the spectrum :(
Thank you for spreading awareness that every person is different and every altrasound is different from person to person. Definitely knew about this and didn't know how real it is as my midwife takes seconds to find the heart beat but my ob takes a little longer.
@@222littledancer222 we really have to stop saying that to ourselves. The largest voting block in the USA is White Women. 55% of us voted for Trump/Republicans. I'm not sure of the exact statistics in Texas, but they certainly can't be better. The call is coming from inside the house and it's time we realized that and dealt with it.
The US: no maternity leave, no healthcare for everyone, no free daycares. Also the US: we care deeply about children and we are forcing you to have them.
@@sannahenderson The USA isn't a true democracy though. The founding fathers didn't want it to be so that's why the Electoral College is a thing. The USA is a democratic republic.
@@becca5027 because everything is black and white right? Birth control never fails, every teenager is extremely knowledgeable of birth control, there are no rapes, every pregnancy is perfect and with no embryo/fetus issues. Utopia basically.
@@becca5027 A lot of people are not trying to get pregnant when they have sexual intercourse. Plus, even though we have plenty of protections, nothing is 100%. But we have to remember that a lot of people, especially young teenagers, are sadly ignorant when it comes to sex. Some people (you can guess who) are trying to ban teachers from giving students the knowledge of the pros and cons of sex, and they get surprised when an ignorant teen gets pregnant. It's like poking a cat too many times and then complaining about the cat when it scratches you. It's not a child's fault for being ignorant, it's the fault of those who are trying to keep them ignorant. Then there is rape and other things that I am not going to get into.
Regardless of politics, you as a voter should be concerned with the fact that people with no medical backgrounds are making laws regulating your medical access. Period.
I attempted suicide after I became pregnant by my abuser and could not get an abortion. It was extremely traumatic and I still have emotional and physical problems with it. A common notion is that people who have abortions do not love their baby. I loved and wanted that baby, but I could not put them through the pain and instability they would have been born into. Because of my attempt, I gave birth to my baby girl at 20 weeks, alone on my bathroom floor. I do not understand how people would rather this happen to others. It is the most painful thing that has ever happened in my life. I wish people made the effort to understand. I loved her, and I had no way out. I don’t have the capacity to argue about my life, so thank you Dr. Jones for speaking for me.
I’m so sorry to hear what you went through. People who have never been in an abusive relationship will never understand. The number one cause of death in pregnant women in the US is homicide by the abusive partner. This is not a black and white law simply trying to make women own up to their bad decisions and choices, but actually a law that will end up killing more women than ever.
I am so, so sorry you had to face all of that. What an impossible situation. I am sure your daughter knows you love her and is watching over you until you can meet again. I hope you're in a safer place now where you can recover and thrive.
There are so many valid reasons for abortion, risk of the mothers health and abuse being the most important ones imo, and it's so sad to hear that people in desperate situations don't get the help they need
3 weeks ago I was told (at 20 weeks pregnant) that my daughter had anencephaly and had no brain. There was 0 chance of her survival outside of the womb. My daughter still moved in my belly even though she lacked a brain and each movement made me feel like part of my soul was dying. I could only get a D&E up until 24 weeks and would have to travel 7-10 hours to a hospital with a doctor that could provide this service. That was not something I wanted so my only other choice was to carry her full term or have an early induction (which is considered an abortion). My Obgyn at my local hospital had to go to the hospital board and fight to change the hospital policy in order to provide this service there. She fought for me and won. I gave birth to my daughter 2 weeks ago and was able to hold her as she took her last breath. Had I lived in Texas this wouldn't have been an option for me. I can't even imagine how badly my mental health would be destroyed feeling my daughter move and being reminded again and again that she wouldn't live. As much as it was a fight to get this done in my state, I'm grateful I had the choice. Now my daughter can rest and I can start the healing process. Thank you Momma Doctor Jones for this video, I hope it will make a difference for other moms like me in Texas.
My BFF (married, Christian, professional) found out her baby had anencephaly, too. She was lucky by just going to a 2nd hospital (after the catholic one said she’d have to to term) to talk to her about her options so she and her husband could decide what to do. Heart-breaking. I feel like pro-lifers think they are serving as the moral code for the promiscuous but they are really endangering the majority that find themselves with an impossible decision to make that WILL end in pain and hurt.
My heart feels for you. That would have been exactly what I would have done. Continuing the pregnancy would just have drawn out the torture. Also, your doctor is obviously an awesome, superhuman being.
As someone who was forced to have a baby from rape (while I love my child) it was a complete violation of my life. It gave me PTSD and ruined me. I've never been who I was or gotten over the resentment I have towards my parents for forcing me to live through that. My child hates them for that too after they told her how they came into this world. They even tried to force her to meet my rapist. While my child is the most amazing thing in this world she wishes she came into my life in another way and we both believe she would have if it was my choice. No one should be forced ever.
Funniest thing to me is that in Florida a person can be denied abortions if a court thinks they are not mature enough. "This person is immature! Give them a child."
*several years later "This person is unequipped to be a responsible parent, some people shouldn't have children". "But also let's force them to have a child".
Personally, I wouldn’t get an abortion unless it was a medical emergency. That said, it’s not up to me what someone else chooses to do with their bodies. This law is archaic and dangerous. I support better access to contraceptives, affordable/free childcare, accurate sex education, and better access to healthcare. THAT is how you reduce abortions. This law isn’t about abortion. It’s about control.
Yes me either and only reason I would do it in a case of a life threatening defect or something is because I wouldn't be able to handle carrying it the whole pregnancy and giving birth if I knew I couldn't take it home you know?
Can we please stop having politicians write laws on Healthcare without including doctors who specialize in the area which the law is being written about?! I feel like this is reasonable.
@@lillianmueller1739 wrong. If there is a valid reason you can be exempt. Our neighbor has cancer, she works, she is exempt from getting the vaccine. So stop spreading your ignorance. You should be embarrassed.
@@trishayamada807 Exactly people can be exempt by their doctor but if they cant take the vaccine for legit reasons they should get tested and follow guidelines.
I am a child of the 50s. As a teen it was made crystal clear to me that a back room (all that was available at the time) abortion could lead to infertility, serious infection and death. Do it yourself terminations used such instruments as coat hangers and knitting needles. This new law will not stop abortions from happening, but it will endanger the health and lives of desperate young women. Thank you for bringing this to the forefront and explaining how it will affect patients and doctors alike. As women we must stand together to end these laws.
Yes thank you! This law is not only bad for needed abortions but also for people who want an abortion. Because they will just use do it yourself abortions and lead to even more deaths.
Thats what im afraid this law is gonna do, woman wont be able to access safe medical procedures to have abortions and will end up using home technics that could endanger their lives to provoque a miscarriage or have an aborption butcher stule that could have severe medical complications and they would be afraid after that of seeking medical help
I will always argue that the best way to reduce abortions is to increase sex education, offer affordable sexual health care, and reduce the social stigma against human sexuality.
Is the unborn child innocent or guilty in the case of rape. Innocent and a lot of couples on the waiting list see that child as innocent and really want that child in there home to love. I don't think a person could do a better thing then bring a child into the world and dare to take the on a Life.
@peterlawrence6815 There are literally thousands of children awaiting adoption in every state, and tens of thousands around the world, and nobody is adopting them. Your comment is an oversimplification of the problem.
@@meljstephan thankyou for your reply . Yes world wide there are so many. Lots of countries will not allow you to adopt their children from their country. Where I live there are long waiting lists. We applied for adoption even though we were suitable almost forty years ago when we applied in our own country . The waiting list was closed because there were not enough children for the amount of couples wanting to adopt. I believe the waiting list now is 2 to 3..year. Foster care. Their is not nearly enough people , you can be married or single to foster. Its awful .
We found out at 13 weeks that our daughter had Turner's syndrome and the complications due to the syndrome made her incompatible to life. She would eventually die and I'd miscarry in my second or 3rd trimester. We chose to end that very wanted pregnancy to help my mental health and recovery. The Texas law would have forced me to carry my pregnancy until I spontaneously miscarried, because my life was not "in danger". I cant imagine the immense trauma that would have brought on. And I was at risk for lawsuit later if someone were to accuse me of having an abortion, because I didn't bring home a baby.
My heart goes out to you. I'm grateful I didn't know all of what my daughter's life would entail while I was pregnant with her. I can't imagine making that decision. I don't regret having her or her 6 1/2 beautiful years fighting through hell with her medical issues, but I can only hope I'd be strong enough to make the right choice for my unborn baby facing the sure knowledge they will suffer and die. It scares me to see this choice being taken from parents and doctors.
Plus, unless it has changed, women who have things like this happen are put on the maternity ward to be surrounded by happy mothers and their babies. I couldn't believe that when I visited a neighbor in the hospital who had to carry a dead baby to term. It seemed unnecessarily cruel.
What a heart wrenching time that must have been. These choices are never easy, but I’m so glad that you were free to make that choice. I hope that people aren’t judgemental towards you, all women deserve care and respect in their decisions. These issues are so emotional and nuanced, someone else can’t make that decision for you. Thank you for sharing your story.
A close friend made the decision to terminate a much sought after pregnancy after it was found that the placenta was growing through her uterine wall. She had a 75% chance of surviving the pregnancy (and the baby much less), but she decided that she needed to be here for her existing children. My understanding is that her decision would now be illegal and unfortunately she would already be bleeding out at the point it became apparent her life was in danger. I don't understand why uneducated bystanders with no skin in the game have more of a say in preserving her life and her children's wellbeing than she does.
This scenario you mentioned is so dangerous in Texas. It is choosing whether to break the law in Texas so you can take care of your other living children or risk your life for this pregnancy. I don't even know if any medical doctor would want to perform this woman's abortion there.
NO, please read the law. It states medical exemptions and does not allow for persecution of women who have abortions. Ectopic pregnancies and other actual medical emergencies are exempt from the law.
@@lindenpeters2601 I disagree like doctor jones stated life endangerment is not life or death or black and white. The person mentioned her survival rate was 75%. So this scenario is a gray area. The law is horrible
@@lindenpeters2601 Quote me the line in the bill, because from what this video has presented, even the definition of "medical emergency" is very vague. When does a risky condition turn into an emergency? Where does the law draw the line between healthy and dying. A doctor can make the call with their knowledge, but the law might come back and jeopardize their practice.
"It states medical exemptions and does not allow for persecution of women who have abortions." It doesn't matter if a woman will be persecuted or not - it the doctor can be sued, the woman just won't find anybody to help her. Trust me, we have the same type of abortion law here in Poland and that's exactly what happens - women die or get crippled because the law prohibits doctors helping them.
I am a transgender man and my father paid a bunch of people to "corrective" rape me. I got pregnant and had an abortion shortly after, about 6-7 weeks after I was unable to consent. The mostly older cishet white men outside the clinic were traumatizing. They called me all sorts of slurs and names less than two months after I was brutally raped. I hear this same story from countless people with uteruses. Going into a clinic for medical care shouldn't involve a bunch of people yelling at someone for seeking that care. If I lived in Texas right now and didn't have the option to take care of my really shitty situation, I'd be dead. Having an abortion saved my life. I'm now in my mid-30s and thankfully under the care of amazing mental health professionals. I'm just terrified for the uterus-possessors in Texas and all the other states enacting these kinds of laws.
Amongst all the other comments, yours particularly made me so angry and sad and disappointed at the world. I am so sorry you had to go through all that. I can’t believe a dad would make their child go through something this horrible. And that strangers believe they’re allowed to shove their opinions up someone else’s throat like they did to you (I think it’s even illegal where I’m from, harassment or something) My uneducated ass always assumed trans man can’t get pregnant due to hormonal treatment so thank you for educating me a little. I’m happy you are now in a much better place, keep being brave!
I am at a loss for words that that happened to you. It's absolutely insane and I am incredibly happy to hear you have medical professionals taking care of you, i wish you good luck and a happy and healthy life.
Frankly, I wouldn't call that man my father at all. What a horrible, horrible thing to do. Besides utterly stupid. I can't figure out what the hell the purpose of something like that would be. In the name of all non-crazy cishet men: sorry, dude :(
Oh my god that's horrible. I am so sorry that that happened to you. I hope that you are ok and that your father burns in hell. I wish you health and happiness in your life.
This absolutely disgusts me. I was pregnant at 19. My body rejected the pregnancy, my kidneys were failing, I could not keep down food and had hyperemesis gravidarum, the baby was in my wall. The doctors here said it was dangerous for me to continue the pregnancy. The thought that in some places people can't have life saving abortion because of the government. Scares me so much.
Get over it, love. The overwhelming majority of these abortions are done on healthy mothers with healthy babies. Read the actual legistative bills from each pro life state and you will see that risk of physical damage or death is an acceptable reason to perform this procedure. This fearmongering is perpetuated by stupid neurotic paranoid doctors who use inflammatory statements to generate fear in people that women will be dying left and right because of these pro life bills. Its nonsence. In fact, maternal mortality rates doubled in the USA during the 50 years of abortion being available. Clearly abortion does not mean a lower mortality rate.
Honestly I think it needs to be a law that Congress can't pass healthcare legislation without approval from an appointed nonpartisan team of medical professionals. There is absolutely no reason that someone who probably couldn't pass middle school biology should be making healthcare laws. I'm so sick of living in a society where corporations and politicians reap the financial benefits of science and medicine, then turn around and legislate unscientific garbage that actively harms their constituents, spread propaganda, and perpetuate conspiracy theories.
Not just Congress, because that would only be federal law and not state or local law. One difficulty as well that comes to mind is proving the medical professionals to be nonpartisan. We don't want the possibility of stacking people like Stella Immanuel
This is a great idea, but unfortunately when something like this was proposed as part of ObamaCare it was stricken out because a radical subset of the Republican Party declared them “death panels”.
I'm an ED nurse and I serve a lot of poor, uneducated women in the projects of Cleveland. Many of them are admitted for other reasons and then the routine pregnancy test comes back positive. I've sat in the room while these women count their loose change for the medications they need, and we both know that prenatal care is financially impossible. Many of them lose their jobs when their employers find out and don't want to provide maternity leave. I have held their hands as they have to choose between starving and having an abortion. It is abject cruelty to look at someone and demand their entire life end because of something they couldn't control. Ultimately, this ban directly targets and punishes the poor, the immigrants, the uneducated, and those without healthcare. White people with income and a job with benefits won't be faced with the horrible realities this law enforces. The privileged can find a way around it...but it's the people on the margins that never had a chance in the first place that Texas chose to kneecap. I'm really hurt by this, because their pain and their lives are just as important and I've dedicated my life to serving them. I'll be damned if I let them sink without a fight.
THIS! and how can we have legislation like this when we don’t even have sufficient enough sex education in this country, especially in the south. it’s ridiculous! This law is abusive and horrible.
awful funny that pregnant women and families with small kids and low income qualify for free health care, food stamps and other aid in the state of Ohio, so... no.. you suck at "serving" your patients if you leave them believing this mess you just stated. also your racism of low expectations is appalling.
@@magdalene74 yeah, because that is a great life for a kid. Barely scrapping by on food stamps, living in crappy neighborhoods without much chance to get a decent education or having healthcare in the future. Often terminating your pregnancy really isn't selfish but selfless and very difficult. If you want to lower the amount of abortions...educate people about sexual health, provide contraceptives, provide opportunities in poor communities...that's the way to stop abortions not to forbid women from having a voice and say in what happens with their and their childern's lives.
@@magdalene74 that's hilarious you obviously never been in that situation I've never been able to afford health care or quality for food stamps or any of of that stuff not every situation is black and white
I am a white woman, and even I am scared for my access. I am so grateful for your service, and I thank you. I have health care, but my access of abortion services are being restricted, regardless of my race, age, education, and income.
They should have added a note saying "by signing yes to this ban, you agree to adopting an unwanted child after birth" I'm glad i live in Denmark, when I called the doctor to make an appointment after a positive test, one of the first things they asked me was if the pregnancy was wanted and I wanted to continue with the pregnancy.
I don’t trust people who want to force others to birth a child so they can adopt them out. I thought it was disturbing that the Supreme Court Justice ACB wrote about “increasing the domestic supply of infants”. Denmark sounds wonderful in the way they handle pregnancy, asking if you want to continue.
@@stellashepherd3229 asking a woman if she wants to continue with the pregnancy could be an insult too .what if the baby was conceived after years of infietility or the woman doesn't.brlieve in abortion.. l believe are suppose to save lives not distroy.them..
Doctors in denmark sound horrific. The first thing out of the doctors mouth to a pregnant mother is do you want to kill the baby or not?!?!?! What the f**k. I am glad you are so happy there. Please stay there.
My situation was pretty unique. So when I was 16, I chose to birth my oldest daughter. It was the hardest thing I had ever done by that time in my life. But life got better, I got out of my parent's abusive home and into my own apartment. Had a great job. Got engaged to my husband. So naturally, when I was 21, we decided to expand our family again. I found out I was pregnant with a planned pregnancy. We were over the moon. Two weeks after we found out we were pregnant again, we found out my oldest had cancer. How could I bring in a healthy baby into the world when my time was so occupied by keeping my terminally ill oldest child alive? How would I divide my time? How would I chose which child was more important in the moment the baby is screaming and my oldest is puking her brains out due to chemotherapy? I lost my job to care for my oldest. My husband lost his for being with us. Our bills started to pile up. Everything was getting turned off and we were in the process of being evicted. We. Had. Nothing. Now, I did have my second child but that was beyond the HARDEST time in my life. I wouldn't have wished my scenario/circumstances on ANYONE. Not even my worst enemy. So many sleepless nights. So many times I cried until I had no more tears. Years of anxiety and depression turned into CPTSD and we are still in therapy to this day. My point is, anything can happen. Even when we least expect it. So what right do I have to take another woman's rights away when I know how hard it was for me and how hard it is for many many women+children in either similar or worse situations? Even if the circumstances weren't as "severe" as mine, how can ANYONE even make that judgement call? How do we determine whose life sucks enough to allow them to terminate and do what's best for them? (And their families if children were previously born to the mother) LET. WOMEN. CHOSE!
No. Choose life. Or take control over your own sexual activities like a normal person with responsibilty. Innocent babies in the womb do not deserve to be flushed down the toilet or be sucked out and then incinerated.
It HIT ME when you said you were worried about making this video because a person doesn't need proof to file a case against you, and making something like this could be a magnet for that. THANK YOU for making it anyways. It is very important information to show what the implications of laws and bills like this actually are.
fr! If someone really wanted they could probably point to MDJ's channel and say "she's encouraging people to get abortions" just because she is giving accurate information about pregnancy and sexual health. I'm so glad MDJ posted this video though, and so grateful for all the educational videos she produces because she is helping so many people.
@@amberroberts3031 from what I understood from this video is that even if they acknowledge it is dangerous to force a child to carry pregnancy to full term. The person who is pregnant needs to be actively dying. In order for them to intervene. But at that point even if the person survives. Could you imagine the trauma that child has gone through?
@@amberroberts3031 That's the thing that not necessarily, but for sure would be bad psychologically. I heard already when I was kid in 90's that there was mother somewhere in world 9 years old.
So, we do realize more children are going to go into the system.. I’m pretty such those whom voted it in aren’t rushing to go adopt. As well they are the ones complaining about people on welfare. I must also state, I can see neglect/abuse is going to be at a raise. This is just going to be a mess. How can they do this as a punishment for doctors… I’m so sorry! This needs to change!
This is EXACTLY what I think. Are/were you in the system? Or know someone close who is/was too? A big part is the quality of life, and all of this is less about that and more about birthing :-(
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this whole forced birth to neglect to crime pipeline is designed to get more able bodied workers that can be exploited for prison slave labor.
It's extremely difficult and expensive to adopt. We actually have more infertile couples who want kids than babies up for adoption at this point. Although I still think abortion should stay legal
Yaaaaaaa suuuree, just kill the babies before they're born so they don't end up in foster care. You can then feel like you have done the ethical thing. You people are insane.
This is terrifying. I do not see this law stopping abortion, but rather sending mothers to the "backwater" places that give procedures and drugs that definetly will cause danger, and damage to future pregnancy.
sad truth is that its not just about "backwater/unsafe" and in fact its far more likely doctors will be afraid to act, and women will die. Thats the sad reality that occurs...
My wife saw this post… “it’s sad when guns have more protection than women do.” This whole situation makes me fear the world that my young daughters will be growing up in.
It’s a really sad, difficult legal situation. I think the best thing you can do is try to educate other men. Unfortunately, the reality is that men are more likely to listen to men. I’m in no way saying that all men are uneducated about this topic and are anti-abortion. There are lots of men who support and/or advocate for women’s bodily autonomy. It’s just that almost all of the people who voted this bill into law are men. We need to do more to educate the people who vote for the legislators who are making these decisions about the medical and human rights of women/AFAB people.
It’s sad the the COVID 19 vaccination argument “ my body my choice” “bodily autonomy” “the government can’t force medical decisions on me” argument doesn’t apply to women’s right to choose.
The "best" part about this, is the fact that this is happening in the United States of America, where "Freedom" is basically its motto. Yet, the law itself, goes against the whole idea of "freedom".
How do you feel about moving? Once you have children it's likely more difficult but education access is part of why the USA aren't attractive to me to begin with.
I'm Irish, born and raised here and as soon as you mentioned the circumstance where there's a danger to the mothers life, I immediately thought of Salvita. Her death sent shock waves around our little island and, as you said, was a major catalyst for our referendum to change our constitution to make female reproductive rights a thing. I honestly do hope that there won't be a repeat of this scenario in Texas, please learn from our government, societal and healthcare failure and don't allow the unnecessary death of women
I love ireland i like the people, the culture it feels like home being from scotland. The one thing that dissapoints me about it is the reproductive rights. I just wish people had the decency to care for the rights and life of the women who is very much carry a parasite and is held hostage by that. I am not anti children but i think the women is ignore when these discuss happen, we are not just incubators.
I just read more about her case it was so sad, I almost cried. Up to which week/s is abortion legal in Ireland, & are any exceptions for rape/incest/fetal defects/danger/risk to health and life of the woman made?
Ireland’s oppressive abortion laws were overhauled in 2018/19. They’re still far from perfect but the constitutional amendment which gave the foetus an equal legal standing to its mother was repealed in 2018 following a majority public vote. Not sure if it’s available where you are but “The 8th” is a great movie about the 30+ year fight for women’s rights in Ireland and worth seeking out if you’re interested in learning more.
If the US was going to learn from the experiences of other countries and make changes they would have have followed the example of Australia, NZ and UK and done something about their gun problem after all those young children in schools were shot and killed. They can't figure out how to protect babies and children who are living but quite happy to protect lives that are not even born. At this stage trying to provide any advice to US Americans is like banging your head against a wall. They are happy to dispense advice to the world and interfere in the issues of other countries but when it comes to the crap in their own backyard it's suddenly an internal matter and everyone mind their own business.
I wish our government cared enough about whether we die or not. Unfortunately however, this government would like happily send us to the grave for something that has nothing to do with morals at all
The same thing that happened in Ireland is now happening in Poland, where they also have ridiculous anti abortion laws. A woman died, she had an unviable fetus, couldn’t get an abortion, the doctors waited too long and she died of septic shock.
@@ZachStachelski13 like they were allowed to treat her with their preferred method. They couldn't because of the regressive law. It's the state's fault.
@miaowzie1976 the law in Poland specifically allows for abortion in cases where the mothers life or health is at risk...sooo your lying. The doctors just didn't want to be bothered. It's not the laws fault.
You know after watching this you’ve really opened my mind to things. Personally I don’t think I would ever have an abortion but thank god I haven’t been in that situation where I’d need to consider one.. but I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business why a woman would get one. Especially not our governments business
I'm from Texas, and MDJ has put forth a very good scenario about how a lot of laws are enacted, not just in Texas, but this entire country. At one point in my life (college), birth control was just becoming available and it seemed very scary. Because I was so young and immature, I would have had an abortion out of pure ignorance. After I married, we had our first child who was born 2 1/2 months early because I had a ruptured appendix. My doctor would not do a c-section because the baby would have been exposed to peritonitis and her tiny little self was not far enough along to have the antibodies to fight off such a toxic situation. (Thank you Dr. KEMP!!!) They performed an extensive laparotomy from stem to stern to remove my appendix and clean out all the infection....the entire time my daughter stayed suspended IN my uterus and never was exposed. The medical team's hope was to place the baby and uterus back and stitch me up and hopefully let me carry her as close to term as possible. Three days later, she was delivered vaginally and didn't even weigh 3lbs! 10 days later she had lost weight and had to have open-heart surgery. (Dr. Jones will know what that is called....but her little heart had to work too hard to get enough oxygen through her little body.) I spent many long hours in a wheelchair beside her neo-natal bassinet in NICU and saw preemies that legally could have been aborted because of their gestational age. My daughter had the best care at Baylor in Dallas and is about to turn 40 with two little boys of her own. That entire experience changed my thoughts on abortion. I shudder at the thought of some women now...having abortions as birth control. But...as NONE of us are perfect, the fine details need to be filtered out. I learned up close and personal not to look at these pregnancies as disposable inconveniences. However, I do draw the line at it being legislated. I feel that a woman and her doctor need to make the best decision possible concerning each pregnancy. I cannot sit back and judge someone's very private decision whatever the case may be.
Women date and sleep with the same type of men that vote for these laws. Protest with men's weakness - p Ussy! Don't give men p Ussy that support these things in the voting booth and create a pussy drought. WATCH HOW QUICK MEN CHANGE.
Why is it that outside the womb brain dead equals death but inside the womb it’s the “heart” that means life? There are unfortunately many people that are brain dead but their heart is still beating - and yet family can “pull the plug”??? I am a Texan - born and raised, and over the last few years I get to where I get embarrassed to say I’m a Texan. Thank you so much for mentioning how pregnancy can escalate family violence (I am a family violence/sexual assault victim advocate).
I would then ask when brain activity is detectable in an unborn baby? Is that not a legitimate response to your point? My understanding is that occurs around weeks 5 or 6, too??
As an Irish woman who lived under these laws and fought to change them, I can guarantee that these kinds of laws will lead to more death not less. Sonita was a catalyst in this country to change the laws and I hope that these laws in Texas can be changed before a woman has to die needlessly. Thank you for your opinions on the matter and for highlighting points of view that haven't be considered before.
If you are a pro-lifer there's no reason why you should be against vaccine mandates. If you are fine with the government controlling what medical procedures can be done on you, you must be fine with them mandating vaccines.
the vaccines are still an experiment. 95% abortions are a form of birth control, thats is the real problem. As adults we are all part of this problem. Teaching more birth control is where the fix is at.
@@hollandspinehaven2634 Women who are born into good families, with bright futures tend to not have any problems with needing an abortion. Women born into a world of poverty, no future, no stable jobs, they tend to make mistakes those in a good family wouldn't. In order to stop abortions, we need to make sure that our society is put in order, no more corruption where all the working class wealth is sucked to the top, while all the jobs poor women need to work are shifted to poorer countries where U.S corporations can make more profit.
I think all doctors should "accidentally" forget to test for heartbeat in their procedures, and "accidentally" continue to recommend abortions after 6 weeks because their dates got mixed up
I'd just like to add that as a chronically ill/disabled person this is uniquely terrifying because a lot of us can't be on hormonal birth control for a litany of reasons, we're often not well enough to defend ourselves if something nonconsensual were to happen, often we have extremely unpredictable periods because of illness and medication, for a number of chronic illnesses like MS, cystic fibrosis, and EDS the sheer process of carrying a child very dangerous, and the most common issue I see being raised in a lot of discussions is there are a lot of life sustaining drugs, such as immunosuppressants in my case, that if we stop taking them our organs will fail but are also extremely dangerous to use when pregnant. Obviously this is super scary and frustrating for so, so many women I thought it was just worth positing a perspective someone may not have heard yet.
I have fibromyalgia, and while it can get along with pregnancy, there's a chance of making the condition significantly worse. I made to choice to take that risk, but I could never force someone to carry. Pregnancy is also harder for people like us, because we can't take many/any of the meds that help keep us healthy and functioning. Our bodies have extra issues, and extra risk. This law does not care, the people who made it don't care.
@@rabbit__ Extremely well said. MDJ pointed it out herself this law is deeply racist, classist, and ableist and I really appreciate hearing your perspective as well.
I have AS. All the women in my family have AS and take either immunosuppressive drugs or anti-inflammatoires that cannot be taken during pregnancy (these drugs are essential to our health and pain management, but detrimental to the development of a healthy fetus). After watching the deterioration of my sister's condition during her pregnancy last year (AS is degenerative, and carrying a child seems to have permanently worsened her condition), I am grateful that as a Canadian, I have access to safe abortions, should I need/choose to have one in order to preserve what little physical and mental health I have left. It breaks my heart that others do not have access to procedures that should be treated as basic health care.
I have EDS and Endometriosis as well as many of their comorbidities and it makes pregnancy so so so risky. This whole thing is so terrifying and I'm so glad I don't live in Texas but I really feel for everyone in similar situations who have had their healthcare taken away from them. This law will kill so many people yet they have the audacity to call themselves "pro-life"
@@harley-amybanks2168 I totally agree! I have endo as well as lot as a lot of surgical scar tissue in my stomach. In a transplant group I’m in there are a few women from Texas all of whom are deeply anxious and I absolutely can’t imagine how they’re feeling now but I feel terrible that this type of classism and ableism is what we deal with as a society.
If a person miscarries and a family member or friend doesn't believe them they can sue a doctor for helping someone who miscarried. Ectopics have a heart beat so...we now wait for it to rupture and put mom at risk before removing the ectopic pregnancy? So gross.
Here in Brazil when someone has a miscarriage, doctors have to do biopsies and tests that proves that was a miscarriage and a group of doctors have to sign the paperwork saying that was a miscarriage from what I know
Something like this happened to my grandma in the early 60s. She had a late miscarriage, her doctor forgot to tell the US government about the miscarriage. Police showed up at her door to arrest her for an abortion when no baby birth was filed. She sat in jail until my grandpa could get ahold of her doctor to explain the error.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite that's the saddest thing I've heard in a long long long time. What the fuck? Grieve for the death of your pregnancy and be jailed for nothing?
I used to be pro-life but your video has made me rethink things. I now consider myself pro-choice, anti-abortion. And before anyone freaks out, it means I don't want government banning abortions. It should be between the woman and her doctor. By anti-abortion I mean I want the government to do things that will actually lower the rates of abortion like expanded Medicaid for pregnant women, paid paternal leave, better education, better access to contraceptives (because let's be real, condoms won't cut it and they are what are accessible), improving adoption agencies and foster care, and improving the economy. All of these would lower abortion rates but not endanger the lives of women or the unborn babies pro-life (and myself) are wanting to protect so bad. Your video was very educating and had no insulting language which was very helpful for me. Also thank you for not saying a fetus isn't a life or something which is what I will sometimes see from pro-choicers on the internet. As someone who has had a couple miscarriages, it very much was a loss of life to me. But the lives of the mothers are important too. I'd say even more important because the baby depends on them.
Yes! Let’s reduce the DEMAND for abortions, not ACCESS TO abortions! I’ve likened it to legalizing divorce, or alcohol; it’s not that we are saying divorce or alcoholism are awesome things everyone should be doing, but instead that making certain bad things illegal only makes bad situations even worse. ❤
Hi there! I see you point, and I think it's really smart. Adding onto your idea, I think doctors should be involved when making abortion legislature to explicit define what it means when a pregnant woman is in a "life-threatening situation."
As a woman who suffers from endometriosis for over half of my life and adenomyosis three years before my hysterectomy, I know the risks of carrying a pregnancy with a chronic medical condition. This “law” terrifies me.
Thank you for your educated and strong opinion. As a young woman I was in an abusive relationship with a very religious man. He raped me and got me pregnant as I cried for him to stop. I was fortunate enough to have a doctor understand what I was going through and help me understand my choices. I snuck away and got an abortion. And while people have told me that I would regret it, I never have regretted that decision. That decision was the start of me getting my life back. That pregnancy was tying me to him and would have put me in a worse situation. He probably would have eventually killed me. But hearing that doctor say to me that day that I had a choice was the moment I realized I had a choice in more that just pregnant or not. I feel for the women in Texas who won't have that choice.
This is a scenario, among the religious and nonreligious, that I believe is far more common than most people know or want to admit. Exposing it is left up to victims of the abuse, and that shouldn't be the case. Thank you for speaking up.
@@sazaaaam Unfortunately you are incorrect when you state the choice to do what she wanted with “her body”. If she had an abortion the only reason is because there was ANOTHER BODY inside her body. This was a choice what to do with that other body. I am sad that the baby got the death penalty for the wrong that her monster man did to her. The baby didn’t need to die for her to get her life back.
I’m so sorry for the trauma and abuse you endured. I don’t want to minimize that in any way. But I did have a question, and that is regarding your statement that getting an abortion (killing the baby) was what gave you your life back. That if you had continued with the pregnancy it would have tied you to this man and would have ultimately likely led to your death. Could you not have left this abusive man and sought shelter somewhere safe and continued with your own life without him?
@@torch_of_justice it is not a baby first off, it's clump of cells Second off the embryo is a parasite (not a bad term), you do not give autonomy to something that depends on the host for survival Third off, if you're willing to give human rights to an embryo then by law it's illegal to coerce someone into letting someone else use their body, here it is the pregnancy
During my mom's pregnancy with me, she started bleeding 3 months early and went to the only hospital available (with religious affiliation). Her c-section was delayed for 12-hrs because 3 docs were required to say it wasn't an abortion. I was delivered with no heartbeat. As a result I am disabled with cerebral palsy & use a walker. Medical decisions need to be made by medical professionals & no one else.
I agree. I was born at 33 weeks premature and I had a grade 4 intra-ventricular hemorrhage and hydrocephalus in my brain. I have spastic hemiplegia cerebral palsy on my left side. My mom told me that she went into labor early with me and she originally thought that she was having false contractions, but it turned out to be actual labor. I was in the NICU for a month before my parents were allowed to take me home.
Yikes. Wait, crap like this causes cerebral palsy? Man, I kinda want to find numbers on this situation. If a paper analyzing how often doctors hesitating because of abortion laws cases the baby and/or mother long term harm or death blew up as much as that fake vaccine causes autism crap did, maybe it could make a difference and prevent more stupid laws like this
@@serpentmaster1323 that’s actually not the case. The reality is that we shouldn’t be allowing politics to get into healthcare. Cerebral palsy is caused by brain injuries that happen before, during, or right after birth. Sorry if you got confused with the comments.
@@serpentmaster1323 It depends on the cause of the bleeding. My guess is that it was a placental abruption, given the emergency caesarian and the lack of heartbeat. So blood flow would have been cut off, and fetuses and infants are especially sensitive to that(so I've been told, I am not a medical professional). When blood flow to the brain is restricted, even in adults it only takes a few minutes for the brain to be damaged. Which is believed to be one of the primary causes of cerebral palsy.
I have to admit, anytime I thought of abortion. I would think of some girl who was sleeping around and just didn’t want to have a baby, and went on and lived her life. But you truly opened my eyes there are women whose lives are truly in danger, and the baby is sick and wouldn’t live anyways. Just a sad situation. Thank you for this video.
I know so many people who think that and I have to explain to them that it’s not always like that and frankly, most of the time it’s not like that but no one ever seems to listen because they’ve just got this personified picture of what they want to believe and it’s sad.
Honestly thank god for the internet and for people like you, or I would be just as close-minded as my parents are. I used to think "oh, why abort, don't be such a horrible woman and mother, just give birth and give the baby up for adoption" but now I know better. I understand the diversity of the situations better and I understand the purpose of abortion better.
In many cases adoption isnt an awesome solution either... so many people have emotional trauma from being in the foster system as they are swapped homes, separated from siblings, or just feel unwanted since it takes so so long for the government to allow a family to adopt (and you better not be single or gay or you're not good enough to adopt). So many problems here 😥
@@achaides -- The neonatal adoption system is separate from the foster care system, and its supply/demand problem actually cuts the other way: there are more couples looking for newborn babies than there are newborn babies to be adopted.
So some child is going to be assaulted by their family member and then be forced to probably give custody to their abuser because Texas CPS and parental rights are as much of a joke as this bill is.
It's already happened many times all over, but this does make it the default protocol, yeah. Then the abuser will probably rape that child, rinse and repeat. Children have less rights than animals, less rights than an unborn fetus, and are treated as property and toys and a lot of these people see no issue with that. It's sick.
@@christopherbzowski4346 I wish I could be offended by this, but as a transplanted Texan, it seems like a joke to me as well, only not the funny kind. 😔
I normally get really upset when listening to people talk about abortions. Listening to you discuss this, I feel that my concerns are addressed in this video. My questions were answered in a way that doesn’t make me feel lectured at. You did a wonderful job at explaining the law. I think it’s a person’s choice.
now take what you have learned, and go protest failed legislators that keep trying to circumvent laws it took us as a nation 200 years to work out. Greg Abbott is an evil man, and needs to go. now.
@@elenagerhardy2636 I don’t have to watch it in it’s entirety to see where the author is at. I heard enough and saw the comments. That tells a lot. So do I support the bill? Yes and no. I support ending abortion. The bill does not completely eliminate it, but discourages the vast majority. The interesting thing is “mama Jones” is concerned about these various situations including ones that she would say put the mother’s life in danger. So from that perspective it is interesting and important to note that, the bill actually excludes abortions that are in the interest of saving the life of the mother, so the idea that this bill is putting mothers lives in jeopardy is completely ludicrous. So the question comes down to what is the fight against this bill really about? It’s about the war against the idea that we could actually have to deal with the consequences of our actions. It’s about denying the reality that choices have consequences and bad choices have victims and rather we should be able to do just whatever we feel like doing regardless of how it affects another. Whether or not there’s a baby involved, sex outside of marriage is damaging all the way around.
@@torch_of_justice it doesn’t exclude abortions when the mothers life is in danger because determining whether her life is in danger is completely up to interpretation. there is no clear answer on what makes her life in danger. all pregnancies can be life threatening. birth control fails. people get raped. just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t mean you should have control over other people.
A woman I knew during high school died while pregnant when she was 25. The baby that was delivered three months early could not be saved. It was a complicated pregnancy and she was in a lot of pain. The hospital has later admitted mistakes. There are no abortion laws like this where this took place. But my point with bringing it up here is that for patients like her which is in lots of pain and the hospital does not manage to give quick enough or struggle to give good enough healthcare, that is a job hard enough, if healthcare professionals not also have to think about legal implications of terminating a pregnancy that puts the mother in such pain, and that she wanted in this case, to end to manage to live.
@@RC-qf3mp great that this was the information you took out of it and wanted to comment on after more than a year. English is my second language and I am sorry that you do not understand my grammar. She was not 25 in high school, though that is entirely in my country because people can go back for a different education. I knew her during our version of high school, which we attend at 16-19 years. She died when she was 25 years old and pregnant.
I think it’s crazy that if you are raped you have to go through that hard time of 9 months pregnancy and giving birth and it could be that you are only 14 years old. People are probably gonna bully and judge you, I could not imagine going to school at my age and being pregnant without wanting to
“It’s a classist, ableist, racist law that affects the people at the bottom of this socioeconomic hierarchy from accessing this procedure.” You hit the nail on the head. Thank you for making this video even though it puts you at risk.
@@savinggracehomestead2687 no we are recognising that by not providing this service to minorities and the poor that we are causing undue harm to them - perpetuating their already diminished autonomy, health status and freedoms.
yeah like I don't know if there was anything like this before but if it was unclear why black women die in pregnancy more in the US, after this law we will know why it's happening
@@mery5989 one reason black women have a higher maternal mortality rate is because physicians (not all) often were trained under antique “science” and also don’t listen to the women because of biases that the doctors have.
I agree that it's classist and ableist, because ultimately what will separate women who want an abortion is whether or not they have the financial and physical means to get one. I don't agree that it's racist, and I've always found it quite patronizing when this word is thrown in as well. Racism is discrimination based on race. It's not discrimination based on something else that happens to disproportionately affect a particular race. This law, for example, will be a hundred times harder on a poor white woman out in rural Texas than an upper middle class Hispanic woman in Dallas. If this were a truly racist law, it'd be the other way around.
Makes me wonder if this can be disputed in a court of law. Can you file a lawsuit against a law that has no backing by professionals in the field of which it is governing?
@@uncleruckus4033 Which COVID vaccine? Their are several. Also, the vaccines were produced in laboratories by scientist who ARE professionals in their field. It’s also not all about you, rather it helps the population. Nothing about about banning abortion is helpful.
Most of these laws are written or cribbed from special interest groups that lobby state legislatures. They can be written in conjunction with lawyers and other experts. But these heartbeat bills, as Dr. Jones explains, isn't written with input from any doctors.
I became even more upset when following Texas's law, Idaho decided to "step it up". The governor himself said I could be used to abuse victims and survivors of abuse further. Yet signed a bill against abortions after 6 weeks then allowing any living relative of the "potential baby" to bring a lawsuit, unless it was an assault/abuse scenario, then it has to be his or her family, not him. Our fines here are $25,000 if I recall correctly. As a victim of childhood abuse this terrifies me. I know how little I was when it started and how lucky I was that It took me almost 6 years to become pregnant. (and forced into an at home abortion) It was a terrifying experience for a barely 14 year old girl and I never want a child to have to go through any of what I did. They need safe and available options for them so that they can get proper healthcare. No matter what that care might look like to others. It needs to be between the patient and the doctor, not some person in a chair somewhere being judgmental or a cultist with an agenda to punish you for finally escaping (Which still happens all too often in the USA)
I feel this so much. My pregnancy, that ended in Jan2019, had a 2% survival chance. My husband and I had already experienced a misarrange and multiple months of late periods that gave us false hope. Now we were actually pregnant. A baby was coming. We just had to make it to 12 weeks and we were safe... at my appointment I was sent to a perinatal specialist. There was an ultrasound and a biopsy that confirmed the condition. If the baby survived the pregnancy, she would not survive the birth. My husband and I decided that termination was the better option. We were heartbroken. We cried for weeks. And in August of 2019 we got pregnant again. Now I have a beautiful, HEALTHY baby girl who is telling my dog to sit with a demanding point. If I had continued with that pregnancy I would not have the gift I have now. That's my story. Sorry for the rant. Love you MamaDJ
@@gamecoolguy619 That has no bearing on what she said. She said that the first baby could not survive the birth. This law would have forced her to carry that baby to term and watch it die instead of termination and trying again.
More deaths in Poland. ''Thanks to this law, doctors cant help me. A woman is like an incubator. Lets hope I dont get sepsis or I will never leave this place'' Izabella Sajbor texted her mom before dying of sepsis from a miscarriage. Made me cry
A young woman in Poland (mother of a nine year old daughter) recently died because her doctors followed Poland's anti-abortion laws - her water broke in 22 weeks, but instead of operating immediately, they waited until the fetus died and she died of sepsis. Laws like this are terrifying and can have terrible consequences for women.
I was almost raped at 10, and by then I was a couple months from having my first period. The amount of shock I was in at that age, and PTSD it gave me for years, (also since I kept quiet, I get to see him in school, he's a senior im a sophmore), I would never be able to live if I had actually been raped and gotten pregnant- and had to keep it. Im more than sure my mother would have let me get an abortion, for my own physical safely as I was a small 10 year old who would have been at much risk. If I was in Texas, or another anti-abortion place, then I know I would have died. Either from birth, or my own hands. Due to my PTSD and being trans, going to a woman's clinic is very frightening for me. I feel like I could turn a corner and he's there watching. Mainly, I wish we were taught what assault was when we were younger. So I could tell somebody. Because I was just a child with a bad relationship with my parents, so I felt alone. And even when I did come out to my grandma about it, she blamed me. I hate how most of my friends have some form of sexual trauma. And this law is only going to make it worse. Fuck Texas. Fuck pro-life.
I'm glad you talked about the "information" that's required to be given to a patient considering termination. About a decade ago, I was living in Texas and had a pregnancy where the embryo/fetus (I'm not sure which is the correct term here) died and was making me VERY sick, my doctor said it was basically starting to rot inside my body. Despite it being necessary to save my life, I STILL had to go through the 24-hr waiting period and listen to the recording of the "information", and it made the whole situation even more traumatic. It's not an easy thing to go through. On top of the trauma of the experience was what happened to my hormones. I did basically nothing except cry for the next 3 days. Even after that I was only barely able to pull myself together to go to work.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. My sister in law (who thankfully does NOT live in Texas!) just had a miscarriage at 12 weeks of a child they DESPERATELY wanted, no heartbeat...and I genuinely do not know where she would go to get services rendered to save her own life. It's horrifying.
One of my friend’s 80 year old grandma was still sexually active with her partner. She miraculously got pregnant, and had to have an abortion for what should be obvious reasons. I’m glad she wasn’t in Texas and that this happened a couple years ago, because this bill would have been the death of her. Plus, even in late medeaval/early renaissance times they were starting to recognize that girls under the age of fourteen tended to have a harder time carrying children, and doctors of the age were encouraging people to wait to have babies until their wives were at least that old. (It is worth noting that in that era, the age of consent was highly controversial, since the people of that era thought that putting an age limit on something was arbitrary and outrageous.) So if they understood that back then, why are we actively prohibiting children under that age, who likely didn’t understand what was happening and are at much higher risk of complications from getting a life-saving, early term abortion? I’ve heard of children as young as twelve getting pregnant. That’s disgusting to even think about, and this law makes it so that CHILD has to bear a child until either they miscarry or they are literally ACTIVELY DYING before they can get an abortion! I can only hope that in these instances that people come to an agreement that no one will say anything if a procedure is done on children until this law is repealed.
@@kuromyou7969 Some women's bodies are different. Even during menopause, women can still concieve. It's not perfect clockwork, which is why a healthy women's uterus can reject an implanted, fertilized egg for whatever random reasons deemed necessary, and we don't even know about it.
I know many won’t agree, and that’s okay. Difference of opinion is how we learn. In my opinion, these laws violate the first amendment regarding separation of church and state. At it’s core, this is an abstinence law. It’s saying don’t have sex unless you will carry the child. These kinds of laws are rooted in a Christian belief system that premarital sex and abortion are both unethical and against the word of god. While you are welcome to have any belief system you like for yourself (and may even be correct) it is still unlawful to write laws based on religious principle alone. Science does not back this legislation. Data from across the world verifies how unhealthy this decision is. Not only does this legislation unfairly target women (also violating the constitution), it is going to result in countless deaths. Especially when the Supreme Court decisions to overturn Roe vs Wade and Planned Parenthood vs Casey is confirmed, and a wave of anti-termination laws sweep across the South and Midwest. I’ve never been more ashamed to be Texan. I’ve always been proud of my state and actively promoted it to others. I no longer can in good faith. This WILL costs lives. It sets America, once again, behind our peers in terms of being a modern and fair society. It again puts beliefs and emotions above science and data. We need change and this is the wrong direction. It’s a shame.
I’m confused as to when and where exactly science and medicine became unimportant, or only important when it suits a particular agenda. I’m genuinely confused as to why the United States insists on backtracking progress. You’re right that data not just across this country but across the entire world shows how unhealthy this decision is. I thought we already covered this when god knows how many women died from unregulated abortion. I always think of that scene from “if these walls could talk” with Demi Moores character bleeding out to death on her kitchen floor after a botched abortion. The people behind these laws are very sick people. I understand that that was a movie scene, but it absolutely can and does happen to women.
@@memyselfi2005 You are absolutely correct. It’s sad that we continue to see politics be more important than people. The agenda behind this and other recent events (I’m sad to say in my home state) becomes more and more clear the more we see it play out. Not that it wasn’t already. The same people that claim to support these laws because they are “constitutionalist”, are the same ones ignoring another vital part of that constitution that separates church and state. This is why. This was the reason our forefathers put this in the constitution. This is the outcome they for saw even then. It won’t stop until out politics change. It won’t stop until a new generation decides enough is enough and votes for change. We have to raise our children better. It’s our only hope. Let’s just hope we aren’t too late.
As someone who has had an abortion because I was raped, this Texan ban absolutely disgusts me. I was only 16 at the time and to think that in Texas I wouldn't be able to even make my own choice on what to do is just crazy. Thankfully I live in the U.K. Everybody has the right to choose what to do with their own bodies. Having an abortion is a difficult decision no matter what circumstances brought you to that point, be it rape, incest or health of the baby/mum. It is one of the most harrowing and hardest decisions a person will ever make. For me there was no other option, at just 16 I didn't want a baby and certainly not one from the worst moment of my life. For me it was hard enough to cope with being raped and to get through the depression of that. I honestly think that if I'd been forced to continue the pregnancy then I would have committed suicide. You don't have to agree with abortions personally but everyone deserves the right to choose for themselves what is best for them. Thank you Mama Doctor Jones for posting this video x
I was raped at 14/15 and it disgusts me because I have had the conversation with my own father “if I had gotten pregnant with my abusers child, you wouldn’t have been ok with me getting an abortion” and his response “I wouldn’t put my opinion into the matter, it would be up to your mom”. Not up to me though?? My best friend has a story similar to yours, I can’t fathom people who can’t understand that if the baby isn’t wanted, forcing the woman to carry that fetus is so traumatizing. The ignorance and lack of humanity in these types of laws is horrifying.
I had one too, but it wasn't a hard decision for me. I was really upset because I felt like my ex had manipulated me and purposely got me pregnant by not telling me his condom broke. So I had one and I don't regret it and he's out of my life. He's a bit upset still, but I think it's more so because he no longer has any control of me and I can take care of myself without anyone else now. I will say though it was painful and the emotions right after you have one are so intense because of the hormones flowing through you after you do it, but after about a week I was fine again.
@@kgal1298 I had a similar experience and I don't regret my decision either. I'm grateful that I was able to get away from him without any ties. Abusers will use a child as an excuse to stay in your life in order to control you. This in turn affects the child's life as well and I wasn't going to feel responsible for destroying a child's life because of my poor choice in men at the time. All I can say is you never know what you would do unless it actually happens to you. Great video with actual medical facts. ❤️
I may have disspell your idea of UK abortion laws. The UK abortion act 1967 states: Abortion is legal in cases of rape, incest, danger to the life of the mother, when the foetus is not viable (will not survive), the child is likely to have mental or physical abnormalities, or the foetus is dead. The Human Rights Act 1988 strengthened these provisions, citing a woman’s right to a family and private life. This adds to the protection of women and ensures that she can get a safe abortion. Basically the UK operates on a huge grey area but as no government since has wanted to control womens reproduction rights you can simply ask for an abortion but under a reason a doctor would just say mental health concerns for continuing pregnancy. It would be very easy to mess with these laws so watch who you vote for.
@@nevadag606 as a survivor as rape myself I'm so sorry that happened to you, I'm glad you had the support/ was able to at least have the option and go on with life
I started my period right after I turned nine years of age. I was also a victim of long-term incest/sexual abuse. I am very fortunate that I wasn't made pregnant by the perpetrator. However, the experience was so entirely traumatic, that I cannot imagine myself staying alive long enough to carry that person's child. I feel like many abuse victims are already not given the support they need, and they is just a horrifying addition to the actual reality of the situation. I wish lawmakers understood this more.
I started my period at 9 as well. I’m sorry this happened to you, very very sorry. I hope you are well truly. Or on your way to being well. However, this rarely happens (a 9 year old becoming pregnant due to abuse). So the law cannot be around the less than 1%’s, if you will. And if it did, a doctor who would make a 9 year old carry a child to term when it belongs to a family member, would be morally terrible. I don’t think that would happen. Or maybe I’m wrong. But I’m pretty sure a doctor in their right mind would never, ever make that decision.
@@reyrey6295 I am in a very good place now. I was lucky to have a therapist who specializes in trauma recovery, help me with my journey. I also really liked "The Body Keeps The Score" by Bessel van der Kolk and absolutely recommend it for anyone who's suffered any type of abuse or traumatic event.
There are many reasons someone would want to get an abortion, and I think it really is a very personal decision that lawmakers shouldn't be controlling. Even if their reason for wanting an abortion is simply because they're not ready to be taking care of children, it's a lot better than putting the child into the system of foster care and adoption, or even possibly neglecting or abusing children. To have a child not only should you want to have the child, but you should always be prepared for any possible outcome, children are individual human beings and they may not always stick to your rules and beliefs, etc.
I am fully expecting suicide rates to spike. Being pregnant is my absolute nightmare, and honestly if it came down to it and had no way out, it’s likely I’d take myself out. I know I’m not alone in having intense phobia regarding pregnancy and especially birth. The trauma of a forced birth would scar anyone for life and I cannot fathom how horrible the guaranteed PTSD would be.
@@kitty4123 just a way to be lazy and to shirk responsibility. Pregnancy is 100% avoidable through abstinence. But people are wanting to prioritise sexual pleasure over their own health. Birth control is extremely effective when used properly. You have no excuse to be an idiot about this when you have the internet with 100,000s of videos and websites dedicated to sexual health. Educate yourself and take real control over your own body. Nobody else can do it for you. Stop submitting to the idea that this is out of your control. Its not.
I don't know if you'll see this, MamaDoctorJones, but you should team up with LegalEagle and do a video on this legislation. Both of you have very different expertise that overlaps here and I would absolutely watch the heck out of it!
I was just thinking that too watching this as I watched Devan's video last night. It's really scary to think that not only are other states already looking at similar laws (FL) but that this tactic of "it's not the state enforcing, so you can't say it's unconstitutional" could be applied it so many other ways. Very hypocritical that many of those Protect the Constitution folks, are the same that see no issues with laws like this that bypass the protections for ALL, that are written into it, and it's amendments. I'm really curious about the Freedom of Religion take, that The Satanic Temple has brought forth, saying that it's a religious right, and have told the FDA that its members should have access to abortion medication without being subject to this regulations. But even beyond TST, I've seen several Jewish Rabbis state that abortion is permitted under Jewish laws as the health of the mother has precedence, and it's not just "Mom will die", but their long term physical and mental health that matter too. But I'm not sure how these would work where the law bypasses a state agent.
@@sillydrizzy2985 i havent thought about it that way. If texas has become a sort of surveillance state where the perscutor is now the judge, jury, and (lets be honest especially with the loose gun laws) executioner, wouldnt texas eventually be looking at anarchy? The ammendments arent going to apply to the victims if the gov isnt directly involved. Ive got family down there and i know how batshite insane the religious ones get. Religious freedom isnt going to matter to them when they believe they are doing “gods work”
@@sillydrizzy2985 I had a comment that tells people outside of Texas to stat funding and fundraise now. Not if you’re a Texan but it’s going to be incredible important for women to be able to afford their own transportation.
I'm 22. I already have 3 autoimmune diseases, one of which would make any pregnancy high-risk. There's also a strong genetic factor for me as both my mother and maternal grandmother have autoimmune diseases. Im still unable to find an OBGYN who's even willing to sit down and seriously discuss it, despite all of my specialists and primary care doctor supporting my decision and acknowledging that I'm well versed in my reasoning and my options. One of the reasons given was literally, "what if you get married and your husband wants children?" Like, if I get married and haven't had this discussion with my partner, WHO MIGHT NOT EVEN BE A SPERM PRODUCING PERSON, that marriage already has problems and we shouldn't be having children. Also, why does this fictional person matter more than me??? I have three autoimmune diseases and I do not want to willingly put another person through what I have to go through currently, which is a reasonable reason for my decision.
My mom had a similar issue when she was trying to get her tubes tied (which she succeeded at) only in her case she had no autoimmune disorders at that point, but was 45. And yet some doctors (and one random lady at the park) still felt the need to be like, "But what if your husband wants more kids?" Her response was that he would need to find a younger wife. (Note: I'm the result of an accidentally pregnancy that happened when my mom was 44, hence her concern that it could potentially happen again.) This turned out to be a very wise decision, because shortly after that her T-cells decided that her thyroid had to die (Hashimoto's disease) and apparently that is not a good thing to have undiagnosed during pregnancy
I also think that "not wanting to be pregnant" and "not wanting to have kids" can be separate things. It's totally okay to want both, neither, or one of the two.
@@Amy_the_Lizard one of my autoimmune diseases is hashimotos, though I'm currently in remission thanks to being on methotrexate due to another autoimmune disease (something I would have to get off before even attempting to get pregnant as it causes fatal birth defects 100% of the time). Thyroid hormones control the development of a fetus, so having too much thyroid hormone or too little is a massive risk to a fetus. Additionally, both going undetected for an extended period of time can cause thyroid storm (hyperthyroidism) or a coma (hypothyroidism).
The big problem is the lack of separation of religious beliefs about an unborn child and people who don't believe in that. It's also concerning to me that children and young women or women in general being forced to carry a child that's a product of rape. Especially for mothers who look young or are in fact young and underage having to deal with that stigma of people assuming that they are trash for being unwed pregnant women when in fact it's a product of rape.
This is why we should fight for separation of church and state. Religion and gov't should have NOTHING to do with each other. It's a personal belief and should have nothing to do with law. We live in a melting pot of humans. It's time for the USA to stop being a theocracy.
As a trans man (for those who aren’t as familiar with the terms, I was assigned female at birth and am in the process of transitioning to male) the prospect of getting pregnant is terrifying to me. Even just being on my period tanks my mental health to the extreme, I can’t imagine what being pregnant would feel like. This law is absolutely unethical and I feel afraid to live in Texas
Praying Tanaka wishes you all the best in your transition 🌝 🙏 Praying Tanaka wishes there was more compassion in the world regarding abortion laws. People don’t understand how mentally/emotionally tough anything revolving pregnancy is.
I have to say, you have truly given me a lot to think about. I've been pro life for a good portion of my adult life (46 yo). I've given birth 3 times, and they're all grown, happy and healthy thankfully. I expected to watch this, get pissed off, and leave a comment about the evils of abortion...clearly, that's not what happened. I very much appreciate the respectful way you laid out the facts of this law and I really have some thinking to do. Thank you
It's great to see people being open to re-evaluate their positions. Not enough people are willing to do that - on all sides of the debate spectrum. Kudos to you!
@@lauralaforge558 Fetal isn't the same as prenatal. Because by that logic, embryonic also means prenatal - but embryonic and fetal are not synonymous with each other, as they refer to two different stages of pregnancy. Ergo those two terms cannot be synonymous with prenatal either, as both of these stages in development are prenatal. The embryonic stage is when the zygote becomes an embryo. The fetal stage is when the embryo becomes a fetus. Prenatal just means pertaining to the organism before birth. Full stop. Medicinal terms are deliberately given very specific definitions in order to avoid causing confusion among similar terms. But the everyday person, who doesn't know much about medicine, can easily mix up similar terms and *think* two terms are synonyms when they are not. To clarify, synonyms means two words sharing the exact same (or almost the exact same) definition. As I demonstrated here, fetal and prenatal are not synonyms, because their meanings are quite different. Please try to actually do your research before making such posts. Otherwise you're just spreading misleading information because you don't even understand the topic fully yourself, and are leading others down the same path - deliberately or not.
@@lauralaforge558 "fetal cardiac activity" and "fetal heartbeat" aren't synonyms. Regardless, both "when electrical activity begins in the embryonic cells that will eventually develop into a heart" and "when the fetal heart forms and begins to beat" are arbitrary lines that don't have a meaningful medical basis. They're just medical terminology used as a fig leaf for what is really a philosophical, and fundamentally arbitrary, argument.
@@lauralaforge558 As a linguist, I appreciate your focus on terminology, but I would point out that there are differences between professional, formal, colloquial, and erroneous usage of any given term. Additionally, over time, definitions in each of those example categories can change. New research might bring new understanding to a particular term; new usage might go viral and alter the colloquial definition (see what I did there?).
OP, I truly wish to commend you on exploring further aspects of this topic. Whether or not your overall opinion changes, whether or not your opinion becomes more nuanced and allows for grey areas, no matter what conclusions you ultimately come to after your reflection, it’s very impressive for someone to genuinely consider arguments on both sides. I try to consciously consider an issue from many different perspectives, but I’m not perfect lol. Also, I’m pretty sure absolutely everyone on the internet does that thing where you click on a video you know you’re going to hate and just tear it apart in the comments. It’s a hobby I try not to indulge, but I’m definitely guilty of that too!! 🤣🤣
A man that is knew went to jail because my best friend, his daughter, got pregnant with his child and committed suicide. He prevented her from getting an abortion and she was too scared to run away or do it under his nose. She was an amazing girl and I loved her like a sister. I couldn’t do anything then because I was too young and I refused to do anything without her consent after both of ours had been taken away. Now, the state of Texas is trying to do the same thing that took my best friend’s life.
Thats so sad... Im glad Germany allows abortion for victims of abuse, if it's medically reasonable or under specific circumstances with a counseling by a doctor. Also women can give birth anonymously and give up the child for adoption immediately after, women can give up already born babies for adoption anonymously and both without cost. Shaming women for premarital pregnancy isn't a thing and contraceptives are available for teenagers even without parents concent. Teenagers can visit doctors without their parents and a 15yo pregnant girl will get help and will be led into programs helping her to be safe, to decide in a calm environment and teenagers can have the right to have doctors not tell the parents about their condition. Doctors will likely advise teenagers to involve parents but will also get external help if someone comes in with a problem and is convinced that their parents won't be helping or might even harm them so they can get someone to advise them, support them.
So, someone really close to me told me that she wanted to be sterilized because she wasn't going to be forced to carry a pregnancy. I was horrified, but it's a huge topic among young women. And there are hundreds.
Not sure if this is what you mean by “sterilized” but I’m asexual & a few folks in the ace community have been considering getting a hysterectomy because if they ever got raped, they wouldn’t be able to legally get an abortion. After watching this video, I suspect aces and/or many rape victims would likely fall into the category of people diligent enough to follow the “happy path” scenario she first described (because someone terrified they might become pregnant would probably buy a bunch of tests & just keep testing every few days until they get their period) but honestly, a hysterectomy seems like it could be cheaper & less stressful… I need to watch her other video before deciding though.
@@qataripekarsky Several want their uterus removed. Some are having their fallopian tubes cut. So it is permanent and can't be undone. Permanent sterilization is how it's been described when opting for these procedures. And her reasons as well as many of my lesbian friends are because they don't want to be forced to carry a child due to rape or not be able to terminate for medical reasons. In rape cases people have to report the rape, prove they were raped, etc further traumatizing the woman. I apologize for the long answer but I'm so tired of this.
I am a female Texan that has been trying to understand this draconian legislation, and you have given me such a better understanding. Thank you so much for providing all of the ways it impacts people. I will be a better advocate now, and I feel for you as a physician that has her ability to care for patients inhibited by uninformed and uneducated people.
@@susanwest4137they clearly dont read the bills in pro life states that restrict abortions except when there is risk of death or physical damage. Instead they use the tiny percent of medically necessary abortions to push for abortions for any reason
what you said about not being able to force a mother to donate a kidney to her born child is the argument I've been making for years 👏 if you think abortion should be illegal, you either think that a foetus **loses** rights after it is born, or you think that a pregnant woman has fewer rights than a corpse
As a veterinarian living in New Zealand, I am absolutely disgusted by this ridiculous and inhumane law. Texas has nearly given women less rights than cattle. If I an treating a pregnant cow that is unlikely to survive a pregnancy, I am required by law to terminate it for her welfare.
Frankly I think any targeted by this law should file Human rights , civil rights lawsuit not just with Federal court but with International Court of Justice.
I cannot imagine living my life, as someone who is chronically unwell with two genetic conditions, on a cocktail of drugs, in horrific pain, and as someone who has never been in a relationship or sexually active, despite being almost 30, being made (God forbid) pregnant against my will, and made to, despite these issues, still carry the baby to term. I am so blessed to live in NZ and I cannot imagine the suffering laws like this cause. Not to speak much on the complicated trauma r4pe and 1nc3st cause, but the fact that, were I in such a situation where I was being made to carry a baby, the knowledge that such an infant would, against even my intent, have no chancr at a good start to life, or even be able to live at all due to what my body is incapable of doing currently, and due to what horrific meds I am on that would harm a growing foetus, meaning it would be such a cruelty to bring such a life of suffering upon an innocent infant...!! Truly, I write here as someone who is devout in their belief, and personally not supportive for abortions in the sense, aka of using it like it's the late contraception someone was too careless to take, but ALSO as someone who, conversely, now also understands they have their own agency to make such suggestions instead of what I personally believe, and likewise understands the danger making abortions illegal ..... well. I cannot think of many things more un-Christlike than valuing an unborn, incomplete foetus over the lives and futures of their carrier, and turning a woman into nothing more than a vessel.
I have waffled on this issue through out my life ... This video has opened up my eyes to a lot of stuff I have never known or considered. I am really glad I saw it.
I am glad that you're willing to have you eyes opened. Thats what gives me hope for the future. People wiling to changing their minds and listen and take different actions.
As a Canadian, this entire thing is beyond my scope of comprehension. I had a very serious pregnancy complication, in my country, I was offered all my options including medical abortion, with no judgement or fear of persecution.
We have our issues too sadly, especially in rural, remote northern areas, and a lot of the East Coast (outside of the larger cities) have extremely limited access, and often have to travel long distances for any care. I know there are no easy answers to that, but a big issue is not having enough OBGYN specialists who can travel. They need to be offered greater incentives to do so, which requires more funding.
As an American who visited Canada recently, one of the big ‘culture shock’ moments was seek a poster at the train station advertising post-abortion couples therapy. It shows that abortion can be normal and still tragic, and doesn’t carry implications for the couple. I drive past anti abortion billboards on my way to work, so it was weird to see the polar opposite
There is also a very real risk of women dying by suicide when they feel like they have no options and can’t live with the trauma of the reality of their situation that led them to consider abortion to begin with.
There is literally no reason to ban abortion. I cannot understand why anyone would be ok with abortion bans and think that's a good thing and "saving lives"
So in theory you could be sued for giving someone an abortion but you could also be sued by the family for NOT giving them an abortion and letting them die.... The darker side to this is what happens to all the children that are forced into abusive and drug filled homes only to be swallowed up by the system and abused for their whole lives. Do not say you care about children and then allow this to happen.
The fact that this law is not willing to put rape into the exception category is beyond right. Rape is a traumatizing experience. A person who got raped and got pregnant will be forced to either deliver the child and live with the constant reminder of that event or to end the child’s and probably their own lives. And I can almost guarantee that the child won’t be growing up in a great environment. Congratulations, we got two broken people! Not like we have more than enough already. Even worse if the victim is of a young age. They are literally not ready to be a parent, physically or mentally, and you expect them to deliver? What kind of sick monster are you? I just hope this won’t last. I also hope it won’t take a life to knock some sense into people who wrote this bill and got it passed.
Yeah imagine your being raped by your own parents and the state is like, yeah maybe we're going to get you out of this family but you still have to go through the traumatising and literally life changing experience of giving birth. If I wouldn't know they were christians I would think that's the ritual of a satanic cult tbh.
In their mentality, a person who is raped "seeked it" with their attire, demeanor, etc. So they still want to punish her. Victim-blaming at its finest.
This is honestly sounding very no-win. To me, it sounds like a doctor could be sued for carrying out a life saving abortion if the mother lives following an abortion, but also if the abortion is not done and the mother dies, the doctor could potentially be sued for malpractice BC there is something that could of been done to save the mother's life.
It screams political posturing. There is no real good effect or benefit to anyone it seems with this law. It doesn’t even make sense from a medical or legal stand point.
Which means the POINT of the ban is not to save lives (unborn or carrying). It's meant to control people with uteruses and push a religious agenda (and I say that as a pro-choice Christian myself).
And that I where the fear come into play for doctors. Fear of continuing practice based on beliefs since it won't affect those doctors that do not do abortion.
@@syrefayne8922 I gotta be honest. I don’t think it’s coming from a moral belief. It’s to manipulate and earn the vote of religious people who haven’t confronted the complexity of this issue. I’m a Christian who believes abortion is morally wrong of and when it can be avoided but so not believe in legislating my moral beliefs and holding others accountable to them. I don’t think that the lawmakers behind this are trying to stand on some moral high ground or do so for the sake of their religious beliefs. I genuinely believe it’s just to pull pro-life votes.
I was raped and conceived almost 15 years ago. Abortion was considered but I decided to continue the pregnancy and have been blessed with an amazing son. The key though was it was my CHOICE. Would I feel differently if I had been told that abortion was not even an option and I had to continue the pregnancy? I can't say how I would have felt. I can say I completely understand considering abortion and every woman should have that choice.
I appreciate your view on this and how you I'm assuming feel on that choice. My mom just used it against me that my bio dad told her to abort me and she kept me instead, and used that as her argument against abortion just because nothing was wrong with me and she wasn't forced to do anything
I hate that Pro-life supporters talk about people having abortions as if they get up in the morning one day like yup this is a great day to abort my baby, then they go celebrate after & get pregnant again the next month so they can purposely have another abortion. It is not like that at all. Women who have abortions have hearts that ache before and after ... even if they feel a relief when it is over they still feel that guilt, they will always wonder about what could've been, etc. No one wants to walk into an abortion clinic, especially with a crowd of people protesting outside and go through such a thing. It's heartbreaking & humiliating. My husband and my cousin were given up for adoption. If you think that everyone who was given up for adoption ends up just being happy they were born, you're sadly mistaken. My husband is 50yrs old and still has never worked through and come to terms with the fact that he was adopted (and he met his biological parents when he was 19yrs old, knows the whole story as to why he was given up for adoption & kept in contact with them). If the child doesn't have adoptive parents who know how to support them as they explore what adoption means, help them navigate their feelings about being adopted, help them develop coping skills and get them whatever extra outside support, then it can be traumatizing. Guess what... not everyone ends up with Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, Sandra Bullock, etc. as their mother. Some end up being adopted by really screwed up people who don't have a clue about how to handle it and are just not psychologically minded... so u end up with an adult that not only had to get through a tough childhood like many people have to with their biological parents but then have to process being adopted ...that these aren't my parents, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles, my grandparents. It would've been nice for someone to have at least told my husband families can be chosen or you are super special to us because we chose you to be with us. We saw you and fell in love! But, nope!
The morality of abortion is personal. I may be against many reasons for abortion, but getting rid of all options like this is just stupid. This law is so much worse than I thought it was going to be. I really hope that it gets repealed before someone dies.
Agreed - there is a difference between "morally wrong" and "illegal". One could make a decent case that strip clubs and casinos may be "morally wrong" but they are still legal. Smoking is bad for you but it's still legal. I've not heard any pro-choice folks trying to assert that abortion is "morally awesome", I think everyone knows that it's not, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the government's job to enforce that
Admittedly, I have always considered myself pro-life. However, I never truly took into account all the other sides to abortion. Namely, the mother and how having an unwanted pregnancy would affect her life. And although I still have reservations, I’ve become more and more compassionate towards women who choose to do so. It’s tough, and it’s not so black and white. And that’s why I have changed my opinion over the years.
You are absolutely allowed to be pro-life for yourself and still support the option for others to choose for themselves. Kudos to you. Get vocal, stand strong in your change. 💜
There is grace in being able to change your mind. And it is okay to do so. I myself would not choose abortion for myself and if I can avoid it, I will. But if it were for someone else’s sake, be it another woman, my baby, or someone else’s baby, that would be different because at that point, their wellbeing is paramount. So thank you for sharing your perspective; it is very valid.
Your body, your choice. Someone else’s body, THEIR CHOICE ✌🏻 And you’re right, it’s rarely black and white…. I think it’s inhumane to expect a victim of rape to be expected to birth and raise a child that they did not have any choice in (I’m 110% pro choice).
I've commented in your channel before.... I found out I was pregnant at 20 weeks!!!!! I don't believe in abortion, but that's my choice over MY body (I was informed that I had a choice that far along). Met someone who kept her baby (she was raped), again HER choice. I do worry about women's health, mental health, etc. as well as the unwanted child who will grow up (emotionally messed up) and the future of our people (who will have to live with those unwanted angry people).
I cannot begin to express how happy it made me feel when at 31:45 (ish) MDJ points out in no uncertain language exactly how despicable this law is. Having someone publicly denounce this law as classist, ableist, and racist is extremely powerful. As a disabled person, I deeply appreciate you considering that we also need abortion access.
There is a book called You’re The Only One I’ve told: Stories Behind Abortion. Some of these people so badly wanted their babies but had to make the choice to terminate their pregnancies because the baby would live a short life of agony if born or their own life was in danger. Others were not ready to have a child or had gotten out of abusive relationships, later discovered they were pregnant, and did not want to be permanently tied down to their abusive partner. Some were assaulted and didn’t want a product of that pain and trauma in the world. Abortion doesn’t just have one face. Thank you for making this video and informing so many people ♥️.
@PeriodicalAdventures That's entirely your choice and perogative. Nobody would have forced you to have an abortion because you were raped under the previous law anyway. But the fact remains not every woman feels the way you do and not every woman wants to carry a child born of rape, it's all down to individual choice, and they should have as much right to choose otherwise as you have to choose to keep the child. Texas is making it so that women in that situation no longer get to choose.
@PeriodicalAdventures first off, I’m so sorry you had to go through that. Second, I did not mean to imply that all victims/survivors of rape that get pregnant automatically don’t want their baby. The women in the cases I was speaking about did not want to have those babies because they felt that it would add onto their trauma.
I was assaulted at a very young age and unfortunately became pregnant. At the time, I lived in Wyoming, which is very similar to Texas. I think there's only 3, maybe 4 clinics that preform abortions in the entire state. The closest clinic was out of state, which i wouldn't have access to. Otherwise I'd have to travel 7 hrs to get to a clinic, but that wasn't feasible. My only two options were: have a baby before I turned 13 or have a dangerous at home abortion. I personally know what these women in Texas are going through and its incredibly traumatic. (Just for clarification, I was 12 when I was assaulted, didn't get my period until three months after the termination so I had no idea what was going on). There's a lot more to all this info, but there's a character limit 😑
Damn girl, what happened? (If you want to say) at home nightmare? An entire baby? What happened after that? Obviously you lived, but omfg are you okay??????
@@Whit-wy2ow i had i guess what you could call an at home abortion. I tried to overdose on ibuprofen without actually getting too hurt. That didn't work. So I went the more... violent side. It wasn't pretty and extremely painful. I'm not sure how I survived everything I put myself through. Essentially, instead of getting a procedure that would take a few days to heal from, my healing time was 4 months. I highly don't recommend it, but when you absolutely have to.... it's traumatizing
As a Texan, as well, I am so frustrated by this law and by the attitudes that perpetuate these ideas. A friend of a friend recently relayed her experience with carrying a baby originally identified as a cornual ectopic pregnancy to term as something that will be a triumph of SB 8, actually hurrahing the fact that abortion or emergency surgery was never discussed with her. While I'm elated that everything worked out well for her and her family, and I'm certain that she would have made the same decision (and should have had every right to), I'm horrified that this is the state of women's reproductive healthcare in Texas.
I can honestly say at one point in my life I was PRO LIFE, years later I find myself PRO CHOICE, and I hate the fact that the government get to dictate what I can do with my body. Thank you for sharing how your perspective has changed to neutral. I am glad there are doctors like you still out there.
I was just past 19 weeks pregnant with my first child when we received the devastating diagnosis of anencephaly. My decision, ultimately, was to end the pregnancy because I felt like I was essentially just "life support" for my terminally ill child. As heartbreaking as it was...it would have been worse to be told I had no choice but to wait for "nature to take its course".
@@alanak4291 why would you want to make something like that mandatory in someone’s life? If a man doesn’t want kids then they should protect them selfs and same with woman who don’t want kids.
@@heyyou9313 That's the point being made. If men have autonomy over their bodies/reproductive rights and the idea of intruding on that (see: vasectomies) is absurd, then so is the idea of forcing woman to give up their bodily autonomy.
@@cleodello but a vasectomy is to prevent getting someone pregnant. Abortions should not be used as a form of birth control and the baby is already there, very different situations
I love that you did this video! I'm in Florida & we're rapidly approaching where Texas currently is. It is an extremely scary time to be a woman. My 1st pregnancy resulted in a still birth at 27 weeks. We later found out that that this was due to a genetic chromosome issue that is non-compatible with life & it would effect 1 in 3 pregnancies. Because of this, I had to have CVS testing done at 6 to 8 weeks of each of my other 2 pregnancies. Fortunately everything came back normal but had it not, having an abortion would have been one of the best options for my situation. To think that this option can be taken away from another mother, already going through one of the worst situations imaginable, makes me angry.
I just sent this video to my 16 yr old son so he could hear what you had to say. I have never been able to justify late term elective abortions and was somewhat happy with new restrictions but you have done an amazing job explaining this law and all it’s flaws. It was nice to hear a educated, clear, alternate view of abortions and the new law. Thank you❤️
This gives me hope for the future.... so many politicians have misled people into believing that its a common occurrence and its the reason for these changes in laws, however Roe v. Wade limited any abortion after fetal viability, usually around 24 weeks, to only those who need it for a serious medical reason. per the data: Abortions occurring at or after 21 weeks gestation are rare. According to the CDC’s Abortion Surveillance Data, the vast majority of abortions (91%) occur at or before 13 weeks gestation, while 7.7% occur from weeks 14 to 20 gestation, and just 1.2% of abortions are performed at or after 21 weeks (Figure 1). This amounts to approximately 5,200 abortions per year occurring at or after 21 weeks, however this is an underestimate as only 33 reporting areas report abortions to the CDC by gestational age. The percentage of abortions occurring at or before 13 weeks gestation has remained stable over the last few decades at 91-92%, however within this timeframe, more abortions are occurring earlier in pregnancy, at or before 8 weeks. This is likely in part due to the greater availability of medication abortions over the last two decades. The depressing reality is that this war against abortion has made lives worse for women, children and families around the United States, and I'm sharing this with the hope people will contact their state and federal officials to ensure that science and compassion prevails in the US.
Late stage elective abortions is not a thing. It’s not elective if the mother is going to die, or the fetus is not viable is the only time an abortion would happen in late stage. Do research with real medical information. Not made up talking points from misinformation.
@@caracrabtree715 actually, there's still seven states that allow elective late-term abortions, meaning that after 28 weeks, you can still get an abortion if you just don't want the baby. However, in the case of elective abortions, most women don't wait that long, so if that's why you're saying it's "not a thing", I totally understand. While I don't agree with late-term elective abortions, (or really abortion at all) I'd never try to take the option away from a woman.
Aren't late term abortions generally less than 1% of abortions and not elective? (Don't know official % rn) They're done with a severe threat to the mothers life or a clearly unviable fetus with a major issue such as not having a brain, ect, ect. Issues like that would mean that baby was never going to live, and if left alone could potentially harm the mother which is why they are rare, yet done in these special circumstances.
You said, “doctors don’t know if what they did was okay until a legal team steps in and said it was fine” That really hit home for me. Absolutely ridiculous. They are NOT DOCTORS.
@@abbyr6172 There shouldn't be any need for "exceptions" to the law. It's an abusive law that takes autonomy from women and just puts more people at risk. Having to shoulder the burden of proof that there were health reasons is traumatic, especially if those health reasons are sudden and the person is grieving the loss. Add to that someone just not wanting to have children and being forced to carry to term by a law that doesn't consider the damages to psychological health or lack of financial resources to survive.
@@abbyr6172 But as is discussed in this very video, it can be incredibly murky to determine when the health issue can be considered "severe enough" to allow for abortion under this law.
@@abbyr6172 unfortunately it’s not true that “any” health issue warrants an abortion. In fact, the point of laws like this is to limit as much as possible which medical conditions allow for an abortion. Otherwise, no one would even care about a law like this. The entire purpose of the law is to make abortions as difficult as possible to obtain.
I love how in Ireland it took ONE woman dying to change the law. Here in Texas, hundreds or thousands will probably die and it probably still won't change.
Not to burst your bubble, but she was not the only one that died. She just became a very prominent case. But I agree on your thoughts about Texas. The fundies will probably claim that it is god's will...
Unfortunately she was just the catalyst. There was A LOT that came before, and a huge amount of work and campaigning that took place after she died. There was more than 5 years of solid campaigns before the law was changed. But her case affected the country deeply, and she will be remembered for a long time to come.
Texas is ranked 53/50 (2 territories with no rights have better measures in place) in how well their law enforcement handles abuse and rape allegations. Its been a massive issue for decades and yet nothing has ever been done. In my opinion, i dont think the texas gov is going to change anything even with so many women and children dying. Not unless someone big and powerful starts making ripples
I'm beyond pregnancy age, but this law scares me for all the women who aren't and even for me because it's another step in control of women and their bodies. This is just by proxy and through fear.
Blah blah blah. Not everything is about women all the time. Abortion deeply affects men/fathers and children and the babies in the womb. Nobody cares about her spleen or her appendix. Its not about her body. Its the tiny body inside her that does not belong to her.
I’m pro-abortion just like I’m pro-chemotherapy or pro-open heart surgery. I’d rather never have to do it, but if I am in a situation where it is necessary, I would like to be able to make that choice.
That's something that people aren't bothering to talk about. I'm against abortion for *unnecessary* reasons. There's no reason you can't wear a condom or take birth control, or other tools to prevent pregnancy. Rape, incest and medical reasons are perfectly viable reasons for abortions. I'm talking about people who fuck around willy nilly, find out they're pregnant. Then they get an abortion, only to have it happen again because of their lack of preventative care before the deed.
@@BrokensoulRider Yeah but it’s also not really our place to decide what’s necessary and whats not, is it? And plus- all birth control has failure rates which we gotta consider, ya know?
@@BrokensoulRider - do you think someone should be denied a replacement pair of glasses because they got lost or broken? Do you think people shouldn't get a refill on their heart meds that are misplaced? Do you think a child should never be allowed a re-do on an assignment they forgot to turn in? Should a smoker be given chemo for their lung cancer? Are you allowed to visit a dermatologist if you've ever gone sun bathing, used a tanning bed, or forgot sunscreen?
@@BrokensoulRider not everyone can take birth control. Idk how it works in the US, but where I live it's expensive and hard to get if you are under 18 ? (But still above age of consent). As for condoms, you could either be allergic, or the guy can say he used one when in reality, he didn't. Happend to a friend of mine, thankfully, she didn't get pregnant.
Imagine you're pregnant with a very much wanted baby - and then something happens, you seek medical help, your doctor tells you your life is in danger, but you aren't close enough to dead yet to help you in any way. You lay there knowing that your doctor might let you die out of fear of being sued. WTF
In the event I survived, I would demand to never have to interact with that doctor again, and do everything in my power to move to a different state as soon as possible
Try being pregnant with a much wanted child and discovering something went horribly wrong and if you continue the pregnancy your child will die a horribly painful death within days or weeks.
@@jenniferjamison4912 we're not talking about could here or about ambiguous situations where a baby may survive. We're talking about cases where an unborn child has no lungs, a massive, unrepairable hole in their heart, untreatable and 100% fatal genetic disease. These children most often die the day of or very shortly after birth, and until then a parent has to watch their child suffer and the child has to suffer. These scenarios do occur and often the severe level of catastrophic malformation is not visible until late in a pregnancy. Many families choose to end their pregnancy and have an abortion rather than give birth to a child that will be born to suffer and shortly thereafter die. This is entirely different than killing an already living child because of their disease; a living person has positive memories of being alive and is having something taken away from them. A child who was never born is not having anything stolen and in cases of infants who are truly incompatible with life and who medicine cannot help at least right now, it is in the opinion of many an ethical choice and mercy, and less traumatic to mother and baby both as well as the other parent. These are always wanted pregnancies. While I respect anyone who disagrees, please remember not to speak for those in a group/identity you do not belong to. I have an incurable, untreatable genetic disease. It is dominant in inheritence; any pregnancy I have is a 50% chance to have my disease. Not all of us agree on abortion in disabling and painful diseases but not imminently fatal ones, but it's very rare for someone with experience in this to not want families to have the right to end a pregnancy when their child is going to suffer and die. For me, I wouldn't want to stop living because I have already been alive, have love in my life, even though there is an extreme amount of suffering and difficulty as well. This difficult is both inherently from my disease, and because the USA does not guarantee medical care for children born with genetic disease, either, so we often suffer due to being disabled and need help that costs too much. So, no, I wouldn't want to die now - but that's because I have a lot to lose, now. An unborn child I might have (though I do as much as I can to prevent pregnancy) would not be losing things they love in life, because they haven't live, and they wouldn't have to suffer like many of us with genetic disease due, inherently but especially because of the lack of support in the USA if you or your child is chronically ill or disabled with a progressive or painful condition.
@@jenniferjamison4912 the problem wasn't that you wouldn't make that choice. the problem was that you compared it to killing a living child and pretty much shamed people who would make a different decision than you would.
My great-grandmother died from complications of HG (& baby was lost). Her daughter my grandmother was afraid she would die each time she became pregnant. Some of my cousins also have suffered from HG. It's not uncommon and while it can be treated, it could still become life-threatening.
this is an old comment but I just wanna say my great grandmother also had HG, and the doctor decided to perform an abortion because her life was at risk. This was in the 1930s, so there wasn’t treatment for HG like there is now, and the doctor knew she would die if the pregnancy wasn’t terminated. This was also in Alabama. I just thank god for the fact that that doctor did his job properly, even back then and in a southern state, because if he hadn’t, I never would have been born. After the termination of that pregnancy, my great grandmother had a successful pregnancy and gave birth to my grandmother. Abortion saves lives, and allows more lives to be born. People don’t talk about that enough.
Thanks for watching. Please keep it amicable if you like being able to hang out here. ❤️
Here’s my childlike optimism praying fora chance that these comments won’t devolve into a discussion that gets comments turned off. :(
I don't believe in abortion .. unless it's rape incest and a few other reasons however I am a LDN and yes it just blows my mind how this happens and no one in the OB field sat and explained ! Mum of 5 and my oldest 20 is autistic and my 4yr old also is autistic my middle three do not .have it . they also don't really have a exact diagnosis for being autistic so they use the words on the spectrum :(
@@tracykrol83 what is LDN? Thanks
Thank you for spreading awareness that every person is different and every altrasound is different from person to person. Definitely knew about this and didn't know how real it is as my midwife takes seconds to find the heart beat but my ob takes a little longer.
@@Nan-59 LND means labor and delivery more or less
"Nobody in medicine helped write this law" AND THAT'S THE ISSUE 😭
Nobody in psychology did either
It really doesn't sound like a person with a uterus did either....
As far as I can tell they never have qualified people in the field writing the laws.
Because none sane medical professional would contribute to it
@@222littledancer222 we really have to stop saying that to ourselves.
The largest voting block in the USA is White Women. 55% of us voted for Trump/Republicans. I'm not sure of the exact statistics in Texas, but they certainly can't be better.
The call is coming from inside the house and it's time we realized that and dealt with it.
The US: no maternity leave, no healthcare for everyone, no free daycares. Also the US: we care deeply about children and we are forcing you to have them.
True... capitalism and democracy weren't everything the founding fathers thought they were cracked up to be. Experiment USA failed.
@@sannahenderson The USA isn't a true democracy though. The founding fathers didn't want it to be so that's why the Electoral College is a thing. The USA is a democratic republic.
Don't get pregnant if you're not ready. Problem solved
@@becca5027 because everything is black and white right? Birth control never fails, every teenager is extremely knowledgeable of birth control, there are no rapes, every pregnancy is perfect and with no embryo/fetus issues. Utopia basically.
@@becca5027 A lot of people are not trying to get pregnant when they have sexual intercourse. Plus, even though we have plenty of protections, nothing is 100%. But we have to remember that a lot of people, especially young teenagers, are sadly ignorant when it comes to sex. Some people (you can guess who) are trying to ban teachers from giving students the knowledge of the pros and cons of sex, and they get surprised when an ignorant teen gets pregnant. It's like poking a cat too many times and then complaining about the cat when it scratches you. It's not a child's fault for being ignorant, it's the fault of those who are trying to keep them ignorant. Then there is rape and other things that I am not going to get into.
Regardless of politics, you as a voter should be concerned with the fact that people with no medical backgrounds are making laws regulating your medical access. Period.
Preach!
Amen!
Politicians should at least have advisors for things outside their expertise.
Yes! It's insane to me that medical legislation can be passed with no advisory from ZERO medical professionals!
Good point. Nice pun.
Do you think these people are dumb?
They know what the facts and medical consensus are.
They Just couldn't care less
I attempted suicide after I became pregnant by my abuser and could not get an abortion. It was extremely traumatic and I still have emotional and physical problems with it. A common notion is that people who have abortions do not love their baby. I loved and wanted that baby, but I could not put them through the pain and instability they would have been born into. Because of my attempt, I gave birth to my baby girl at 20 weeks, alone on my bathroom floor. I do not understand how people would rather this happen to others. It is the most painful thing that has ever happened in my life. I wish people made the effort to understand. I loved her, and I had no way out. I don’t have the capacity to argue about my life, so thank you Dr. Jones for speaking for me.
I’m so sorry to hear what you went through. People who have never been in an abusive relationship will never understand. The number one cause of death in pregnant women in the US is homicide by the abusive partner. This is not a black and white law simply trying to make women own up to their bad decisions and choices, but actually a law that will end up killing more women than ever.
And still pro-lifers (or more accurately anti-abortionists) stubbornly hold onto their davourite concepts:
✨️ignorance and simplification✨️
I am so, so sorry you had to face all of that. What an impossible situation. I am sure your daughter knows you love her and is watching over you until you can meet again. I hope you're in a safer place now where you can recover and thrive.
that sounds so devastating :( i hope you had people care for you and feel a lot better now
There are so many valid reasons for abortion, risk of the mothers health and abuse being the most important ones imo, and it's so sad to hear that people in desperate situations don't get the help they need
3 weeks ago I was told (at 20 weeks pregnant) that my daughter had anencephaly and had no brain. There was 0 chance of her survival outside of the womb. My daughter still moved in my belly even though she lacked a brain and each movement made me feel like part of my soul was dying. I could only get a D&E up until 24 weeks and would have to travel 7-10 hours to a hospital with a doctor that could provide this service. That was not something I wanted so my only other choice was to carry her full term or have an early induction (which is considered an abortion). My Obgyn at my local hospital had to go to the hospital board and fight to change the hospital policy in order to provide this service there. She fought for me and won. I gave birth to my daughter 2 weeks ago and was able to hold her as she took her last breath. Had I lived in Texas this wouldn't have been an option for me. I can't even imagine how badly my mental health would be destroyed feeling my daughter move and being reminded again and again that she wouldn't live. As much as it was a fight to get this done in my state, I'm grateful I had the choice. Now my daughter can rest and I can start the healing process. Thank you Momma Doctor Jones for this video, I hope it will make a difference for other moms like me in Texas.
My BFF (married, Christian, professional) found out her baby had anencephaly, too. She was lucky by just going to a 2nd hospital (after the catholic one said she’d have to to term) to talk to her about her options so she and her husband could decide what to do. Heart-breaking. I feel like pro-lifers think they are serving as the moral code for the promiscuous but they are really endangering the majority that find themselves with an impossible decision to make that WILL end in pain and hurt.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, mama. Thoughts are with you and your little one, wherever you believe she may be ❤
My heart feels for you. That would have been exactly what I would have done. Continuing the pregnancy would just have drawn out the torture. Also, your doctor is obviously an awesome, superhuman being.
Thank you for sharing that, I'm so sorry you had to go through it. 💔
I'm so sorry for your loss.
No one with a medical background was involved in making this law.It's like how the board of women's health doesn't have a single woman on it.
well im a woman and I think this law is the best thing that's happened to this country for a while
@@laurencs1974 that... has not much to do with what I said 🤷♀️
@@glassdragonmedia I couldn't care less
@@glassdragonmedia its honestly just ssd in my opinion
@@laurencs1974 Then you're fortunate enough to not have seen this law's consequences.
Probably because you're not in medicine, certainly not a nurse.
As someone who was forced to have a baby from rape (while I love my child) it was a complete violation of my life. It gave me PTSD and ruined me. I've never been who I was or gotten over the resentment I have towards my parents for forcing me to live through that. My child hates them for that too after they told her how they came into this world. They even tried to force her to meet my rapist. While my child is the most amazing thing in this world she wishes she came into my life in another way and we both believe she would have if it was my choice. No one should be forced ever.
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You are loved.
@@jrautumn7978 thank you
God how horrible I’m so so so sorry
I think it helps that it's a daughter though
Funniest thing to me is that in Florida a person can be denied abortions if a court thinks they are not mature enough.
"This person is immature! Give them a child."
Daaaaaamn Florida could be its own country. A third world country, at that.
@@glassheartsx at this rate, most developped countries are already starting to consider the US a 3rd world country
*several years later
"This person is unequipped to be a responsible parent, some people shouldn't have children".
"But also let's force them to have a child".
That literally makes no sense.
@@yellowishgreendragon.-.It's because they wanna funnel more babies into for profit adoption agencies
Personally, I wouldn’t get an abortion unless it was a medical emergency. That said, it’s not up to me what someone else chooses to do with their bodies. This law is archaic and dangerous. I support better access to contraceptives, affordable/free childcare, accurate sex education, and better access to healthcare. THAT is how you reduce abortions. This law isn’t about abortion. It’s about control.
Amen
True! It works so much better to have good education and accesible contraception.
Yes me either and only reason I would do it in a case of a life threatening defect or something is because I wouldn't be able to handle carrying it the whole pregnancy and giving birth if I knew I couldn't take it home you know?
I forgot to add a better foster care and adoption system as well.
@@annawood8912 This! All of this!
Can we please stop having politicians write laws on Healthcare without including doctors who specialize in the area which the law is being written about?! I feel like this is reasonable.
The way to do that is to vote, and encourage others to.
Yeah like our President mandating a vaccine without consulting my doctor and knowing my own personal medical condition.
@@lillianmueller1739 wrong. If there is a valid reason you can be exempt. Our neighbor has cancer, she works, she is exempt from getting the vaccine. So stop spreading your ignorance. You should be embarrassed.
Agreed
@@trishayamada807 Exactly people can be exempt by their doctor but if they cant take the vaccine for legit reasons they should get tested and follow guidelines.
I am a child of the 50s. As a teen it was made crystal clear to me that a back room (all that was available at the time) abortion could lead to infertility, serious infection and death. Do it yourself terminations used such instruments as coat hangers and knitting needles. This new law will not stop abortions from happening, but it will endanger the health and lives of desperate young women. Thank you for bringing this to the forefront and explaining how it will affect patients and doctors alike. As women we must stand together to end these laws.
Yes thank you! This law is not only bad for needed abortions but also for people who want an abortion. Because they will just use do it yourself abortions and lead to even more deaths.
I have a sinking feeling that we may also see a rise in newborns being left in dumpsters and public toilets, again, too.
@@-._.-KRiS-._.-
That's horrifying.
Exactly!!
Thats what im afraid this law is gonna do, woman wont be able to access safe medical procedures to have abortions and will end up using home technics that could endanger their lives to provoque a miscarriage or have an aborption butcher stule that could have severe medical complications and they would be afraid after that of seeking medical help
I will always argue that the best way to reduce abortions is to increase sex education, offer affordable sexual health care, and reduce the social stigma against human sexuality.
you are so right
Is the unborn child innocent or guilty in the case of rape. Innocent and a lot of couples on the waiting list see that child as innocent and really want that child in there home to love. I don't think a person could do a better thing then bring a child into the world and dare to take the on a Life.
@peterlawrence6815 There are literally thousands of children awaiting adoption in every state, and tens of thousands around the world, and nobody is adopting them. Your comment is an oversimplification of the problem.
@@meljstephan thankyou for your reply . Yes world wide there are so many. Lots of countries will not allow you to adopt their children from their country. Where I live there are long waiting lists. We applied for adoption even though we were suitable almost forty years ago when we applied in our own country . The waiting list was closed because there were not enough children for the amount of couples wanting to adopt. I believe the waiting list now is 2 to 3..year. Foster care. Their is not nearly enough people , you can be married or single to foster. Its awful .
@@peterlawrence6815 It's ridiculous. Until those laws change, the problem will continue
We found out at 13 weeks that our daughter had Turner's syndrome and the complications due to the syndrome made her incompatible to life. She would eventually die and I'd miscarry in my second or 3rd trimester. We chose to end that very wanted pregnancy to help my mental health and recovery. The Texas law would have forced me to carry my pregnancy until I spontaneously miscarried, because my life was not "in danger". I cant imagine the immense trauma that would have brought on. And I was at risk for lawsuit later if someone were to accuse me of having an abortion, because I didn't bring home a baby.
My heart goes out to you. I'm grateful I didn't know all of what my daughter's life would entail while I was pregnant with her. I can't imagine making that decision. I don't regret having her or her 6 1/2 beautiful years fighting through hell with her medical issues, but I can only hope I'd be strong enough to make the right choice for my unborn baby facing the sure knowledge they will suffer and die.
It scares me to see this choice being taken from parents and doctors.
Side note, the law would put your provider at risk, not you.
This law, this time, anyway. It's a terrifying and horrendous precedent.
Plus, unless it has changed, women who have things like this happen are put on the maternity ward to be surrounded by happy mothers and their babies.
I couldn't believe that when I visited a neighbor in the hospital who had to carry a dead baby to term. It seemed unnecessarily cruel.
I think there is also more risks to miscarriage than an abortion.
What a heart wrenching time that must have been. These choices are never easy, but I’m so glad that you were free to make that choice. I hope that people aren’t judgemental towards you, all women deserve care and respect in their decisions. These issues are so emotional and nuanced, someone else can’t make that decision for you. Thank you for sharing your story.
A close friend made the decision to terminate a much sought after pregnancy after it was found that the placenta was growing through her uterine wall. She had a 75% chance of surviving the pregnancy (and the baby much less), but she decided that she needed to be here for her existing children. My understanding is that her decision would now be illegal and unfortunately she would already be bleeding out at the point it became apparent her life was in danger. I don't understand why uneducated bystanders with no skin in the game have more of a say in preserving her life and her children's wellbeing than she does.
This scenario you mentioned is so dangerous in Texas. It is choosing whether to break the law in Texas so you can take care of your other living children or risk your life for this pregnancy. I don't even know if any medical doctor would want to perform this woman's abortion there.
NO, please read the law. It states medical exemptions and does not allow for persecution of women who have abortions. Ectopic pregnancies and other actual medical emergencies are exempt from the law.
@@lindenpeters2601 I disagree like doctor jones stated life endangerment is not life or death or black and white. The person mentioned her survival rate was 75%. So this scenario is a gray area. The law is horrible
@@lindenpeters2601 Quote me the line in the bill, because from what this video has presented, even the definition of "medical emergency" is very vague. When does a risky condition turn into an emergency? Where does the law draw the line between healthy and dying. A doctor can make the call with their knowledge, but the law might come back and jeopardize their practice.
"It states medical exemptions and does not allow for persecution of women who have abortions."
It doesn't matter if a woman will be persecuted or not - it the doctor can be sued, the woman just won't find anybody to help her. Trust me, we have the same type of abortion law here in Poland and that's exactly what happens - women die or get crippled because the law prohibits doctors helping them.
I am a transgender man and my father paid a bunch of people to "corrective" rape me. I got pregnant and had an abortion shortly after, about 6-7 weeks after I was unable to consent. The mostly older cishet white men outside the clinic were traumatizing. They called me all sorts of slurs and names less than two months after I was brutally raped. I hear this same story from countless people with uteruses. Going into a clinic for medical care shouldn't involve a bunch of people yelling at someone for seeking that care.
If I lived in Texas right now and didn't have the option to take care of my really shitty situation, I'd be dead. Having an abortion saved my life. I'm now in my mid-30s and thankfully under the care of amazing mental health professionals.
I'm just terrified for the uterus-possessors in Texas and all the other states enacting these kinds of laws.
Amongst all the other comments, yours particularly made me so angry and sad and disappointed at the world.
I am so sorry you had to go through all that.
I can’t believe a dad would make their child go through something this horrible. And that strangers believe they’re allowed to shove their opinions up someone else’s throat like they did to you (I think it’s even illegal where I’m from, harassment or something)
My uneducated ass always assumed trans man can’t get pregnant due to hormonal treatment so thank you for educating me a little.
I’m happy you are now in a much better place, keep being brave!
I am at a loss for words that that happened to you. It's absolutely insane and I am incredibly happy to hear you have medical professionals taking care of you, i wish you good luck and a happy and healthy life.
Frankly, I wouldn't call that man my father at all. What a horrible, horrible thing to do. Besides utterly stupid. I can't figure out what the hell the purpose of something like that would be. In the name of all non-crazy cishet men: sorry, dude :(
Oh my god that's horrible. I am so sorry that that happened to you. I hope that you are ok and that your father burns in hell. I wish you health and happiness in your life.
I'm so sorry, that's so horrible 🥺
This absolutely disgusts me. I was pregnant at 19. My body rejected the pregnancy, my kidneys were failing, I could not keep down food and had hyperemesis gravidarum, the baby was in my wall. The doctors here said it was dangerous for me to continue the pregnancy. The thought that in some places people can't have life saving abortion because of the government. Scares me so much.
Get over it, love. The overwhelming majority of these abortions are done on healthy mothers with healthy babies. Read the actual legistative bills from each pro life state and you will see that risk of physical damage or death is an acceptable reason to perform this procedure. This fearmongering is perpetuated by stupid neurotic paranoid doctors who use inflammatory statements to generate fear in people that women will be dying left and right because of these pro life bills. Its nonsence. In fact, maternal mortality rates doubled in the USA during the 50 years of abortion being available. Clearly abortion does not mean a lower mortality rate.
Honestly I think it needs to be a law that Congress can't pass healthcare legislation without approval from an appointed nonpartisan team of medical professionals. There is absolutely no reason that someone who probably couldn't pass middle school biology should be making healthcare laws. I'm so sick of living in a society where corporations and politicians reap the financial benefits of science and medicine, then turn around and legislate unscientific garbage that actively harms their constituents, spread propaganda, and perpetuate conspiracy theories.
Absolutely agree
Good idea
Not just Congress, because that would only be federal law and not state or local law. One difficulty as well that comes to mind is proving the medical professionals to be nonpartisan. We don't want the possibility of stacking people like Stella Immanuel
This is a great idea, but unfortunately when something like this was proposed as part of ObamaCare it was stricken out because a radical subset of the Republican Party declared them “death panels”.
Ive always wondered if these legislators open themselves up to being sued for practicing medicine without a license.
I'm an ED nurse and I serve a lot of poor, uneducated women in the projects of Cleveland. Many of them are admitted for other reasons and then the routine pregnancy test comes back positive. I've sat in the room while these women count their loose change for the medications they need, and we both know that prenatal care is financially impossible. Many of them lose their jobs when their employers find out and don't want to provide maternity leave. I have held their hands as they have to choose between starving and having an abortion. It is abject cruelty to look at someone and demand their entire life end because of something they couldn't control.
Ultimately, this ban directly targets and punishes the poor, the immigrants, the uneducated, and those without healthcare. White people with income and a job with benefits won't be faced with the horrible realities this law enforces. The privileged can find a way around it...but it's the people on the margins that never had a chance in the first place that Texas chose to kneecap. I'm really hurt by this, because their pain and their lives are just as important and I've dedicated my life to serving them. I'll be damned if I let them sink without a fight.
THIS! and how can we have legislation like this when we don’t even have sufficient enough sex education in this country, especially in the south. it’s ridiculous!
This law is abusive and horrible.
awful funny that pregnant women and families with small kids and low income qualify for free health care, food stamps and other aid in the state of Ohio, so... no.. you suck at "serving" your patients if you leave them believing this mess you just stated. also your racism of low expectations is appalling.
@@magdalene74 yeah, because that is a great life for a kid. Barely scrapping by on food stamps, living in crappy neighborhoods without much chance to get a decent education or having healthcare in the future. Often terminating your pregnancy really isn't selfish but selfless and very difficult. If you want to lower the amount of abortions...educate people about sexual health, provide contraceptives, provide opportunities in poor communities...that's the way to stop abortions not to forbid women from having a voice and say in what happens with their and their childern's lives.
@@magdalene74 that's hilarious you obviously never been in that situation I've never been able to afford health care or quality for food stamps or any of of that stuff not every situation is black and white
I am a white woman, and even I am scared for my access. I am so grateful for your service, and I thank you. I have health care, but my access of abortion services are being restricted, regardless of my race, age, education, and income.
They should have added a note saying "by signing yes to this ban, you agree to adopting an unwanted child after birth"
I'm glad i live in Denmark, when I called the doctor to make an appointment after a positive test, one of the first things they asked me was if the pregnancy was wanted and I wanted to continue with the pregnancy.
There are thousands of people who would adopt your baby.
I don’t trust people who want to force others to birth a child so they can adopt them out. I thought it was disturbing that the Supreme Court Justice ACB wrote about “increasing the domestic supply of infants”.
Denmark sounds wonderful in the way they handle pregnancy, asking if you want to continue.
@@stellashepherd3229 asking a woman if she wants to continue with the pregnancy could be an insult too
.what if the baby was conceived after years of infietility or the woman doesn't.brlieve in abortion.. l believe are suppose to save lives not distroy.them..
@@peterlawrence6815 lmao anyone would rather be potentially insulted than be forced to have a child from rape or incest.
Doctors in denmark sound horrific. The first thing out of the doctors mouth to a pregnant mother is do you want to kill the baby or not?!?!?! What the f**k. I am glad you are so happy there. Please stay there.
My situation was pretty unique.
So when I was 16, I chose to birth my oldest daughter.
It was the hardest thing I had ever done by that time in my life. But life got better, I got out of my parent's abusive home and into my own apartment. Had a great job. Got engaged to my husband.
So naturally, when I was 21, we decided to expand our family again.
I found out I was pregnant with a planned pregnancy. We were over the moon.
Two weeks after we found out we were pregnant again, we found out my oldest had cancer.
How could I bring in a healthy baby into the world when my time was so occupied by keeping my terminally ill oldest child alive? How would I divide my time? How would I chose which child was more important in the moment the baby is screaming and my oldest is puking her brains out due to chemotherapy?
I lost my job to care for my oldest. My husband lost his for being with us. Our bills started to pile up. Everything was getting turned off and we were in the process of being evicted. We. Had. Nothing.
Now, I did have my second child but that was beyond the HARDEST time in my life. I wouldn't have wished my scenario/circumstances on ANYONE. Not even my worst enemy.
So many sleepless nights. So many times I cried until I had no more tears. Years of anxiety and depression turned into CPTSD and we are still in therapy to this day.
My point is, anything can happen. Even when we least expect it. So what right do I have to take another woman's rights away when I know how hard it was for me and how hard it is for many many women+children in either similar or worse situations? Even if the circumstances weren't as "severe" as mine, how can ANYONE even make that judgement call? How do we determine whose life sucks enough to allow them to terminate and do what's best for them? (And their families if children were previously born to the mother)
LET. WOMEN. CHOSE!
I hope your daughter is doing amazing and healing well x
No. Choose life. Or take control over your own sexual activities like a normal person with responsibilty. Innocent babies in the womb do not deserve to be flushed down the toilet or be sucked out and then incinerated.
It HIT ME when you said you were worried about making this video because a person doesn't need proof to file a case against you, and making something like this could be a magnet for that.
THANK YOU for making it anyways. It is very important information to show what the implications of laws and bills like this actually are.
Yes, this was so important to do. If they get you MJD, I’ll donate to your GoFundMe.
@@MissCathexis I'll help too if it happens!
It’s very disturbing that they have made this an easy way for some jerk to get themselves 10k without really having to do anything.
Off topic but related to not needing proof, another thing that doesn’t need proof is a filing a Temporary Restraining Order in Texas
fr! If someone really wanted they could probably point to MDJ's channel and say "she's encouraging people to get abortions" just because she is giving accurate information about pregnancy and sexual health. I'm so glad MDJ posted this video though, and so grateful for all the educational videos she produces because she is helping so many people.
The fact that age isn’t an exception either is mind blowing. Do they realize kids as young as 8,9&10 can get pregnant?!
At 8 9 & 10 the life would be in danger. I'd hope.
Yeah they just don't care. Either if it's a grandpa sexual assaulting that 10 year old.
@@amberroberts3031 from what I understood from this video is that even if they acknowledge it is dangerous to force a child to carry pregnancy to full term. The person who is pregnant needs to be actively dying. In order for them to intervene. But at that point even if the person survives. Could you imagine the trauma that child has gone through?
@@amberroberts3031 That's the thing that not necessarily, but for sure would be bad psychologically. I heard already when I was kid in 90's that there was mother somewhere in world 9 years old.
@@Aurinkohelmi the youngest confirmed mother is Lina Medina at 5 years old. She is 87 today.
So, we do realize more children are going to go into the system.. I’m pretty such those whom voted it in aren’t rushing to go adopt. As well they are the ones complaining about people on welfare.
I must also state, I can see neglect/abuse is going to be at a raise. This is just going to be a mess. How can they do this as a punishment for doctors… I’m so sorry! This needs to change!
This is EXACTLY what I think. Are/were you in the system? Or know someone close who is/was too? A big part is the quality of life, and all of this is less about that and more about birthing :-(
Call me cynical but someone who would have gotten an abortion if not for the law isn’t very likely to be a good parent.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this whole forced birth to neglect to crime pipeline is designed to get more able bodied workers that can be exploited for prison slave labor.
It's extremely difficult and expensive to adopt. We actually have more infertile couples who want kids than babies up for adoption at this point.
Although I still think abortion should stay legal
Yaaaaaaa suuuree, just kill the babies before they're born so they don't end up in foster care. You can then feel like you have done the ethical thing. You people are insane.
This is terrifying. I do not see this law stopping abortion, but rather sending mothers to the "backwater" places that give procedures and drugs that definetly will cause danger, and damage to future pregnancy.
YES! EXACTLY WOMEN WILL ATTEMPT SUICIDE GODddDDdDdD PEOPLE WILL BE UPSET FROM ABUSeRS kILLING WOMEN BY MAKINg THEm PREG
sad truth is that its not just about "backwater/unsafe" and in fact its far more likely doctors will be afraid to act, and women will die. Thats the sad reality that occurs...
My wife saw this post… “it’s sad when guns have more protection than women do.” This whole situation makes me fear the world that my young daughters will be growing up in.
It’s a really sad, difficult legal situation. I think the best thing you can do is try to educate other men. Unfortunately, the reality is that men are more likely to listen to men. I’m in no way saying that all men are uneducated about this topic and are anti-abortion. There are lots of men who support and/or advocate for women’s bodily autonomy. It’s just that almost all of the people who voted this bill into law are men. We need to do more to educate the people who vote for the legislators who are making these decisions about the medical and human rights of women/AFAB people.
It’s sad the the COVID 19 vaccination argument “ my body my choice” “bodily autonomy” “the government can’t force medical decisions on me” argument doesn’t apply to women’s right to choose.
The "best" part about this, is the fact that this is happening in the United States of America, where "Freedom" is basically its motto. Yet, the law itself, goes against the whole idea of "freedom".
How do you feel about moving? Once you have children it's likely more difficult but education access is part of why the USA aren't attractive to me to begin with.
@@TeenMomofGrace it really says a lot about America huh :(
I'm Irish, born and raised here and as soon as you mentioned the circumstance where there's a danger to the mothers life, I immediately thought of Salvita. Her death sent shock waves around our little island and, as you said, was a major catalyst for our referendum to change our constitution to make female reproductive rights a thing.
I honestly do hope that there won't be a repeat of this scenario in Texas, please learn from our government, societal and healthcare failure and don't allow the unnecessary death of women
I love ireland i like the people, the culture it feels like home being from scotland. The one thing that dissapoints me about it is the reproductive rights.
I just wish people had the decency to care for the rights and life of the women who is very much carry a parasite and is held hostage by that.
I am not anti children but i think the women is ignore when these discuss happen, we are not just incubators.
I just read more about her case it was so sad, I almost cried. Up to which week/s is abortion legal in Ireland, & are any exceptions for rape/incest/fetal defects/danger/risk to health and life of the woman made?
Ireland’s oppressive abortion laws were overhauled in 2018/19. They’re still far from perfect but the constitutional amendment which gave the foetus an equal legal standing to its mother was repealed in 2018 following a majority public vote.
Not sure if it’s available where you are but “The 8th” is a great movie about the 30+ year fight for women’s rights in Ireland and worth seeking out if you’re interested in learning more.
If the US was going to learn from the experiences of other countries and make changes they would have have followed the example of Australia, NZ and UK and done something about their gun problem after all those young children in schools were shot and killed. They can't figure out how to protect babies and children who are living but quite happy to protect lives that are not even born. At this stage trying to provide any advice to US Americans is like banging your head against a wall. They are happy to dispense advice to the world and interfere in the issues of other countries but when it comes to the crap in their own backyard it's suddenly an internal matter and everyone mind their own business.
I wish our government cared enough about whether we die or not. Unfortunately however, this government would like happily send us to the grave for something that has nothing to do with morals at all
The same thing that happened in Ireland is now happening in Poland, where they also have ridiculous anti abortion laws. A woman died, she had an unviable fetus, couldn’t get an abortion, the doctors waited too long and she died of septic shock.
Sounds like the doctors fault.
@@ZachStachelski13it's fucking isn't
@miaowzie1976 the mothers health was in jeopardy and the doctors waited to treat her. It's their fault.
@@ZachStachelski13 like they were allowed to treat her with their preferred method. They couldn't because of the regressive law. It's the state's fault.
@miaowzie1976 the law in Poland specifically allows for abortion in cases where the mothers life or health is at risk...sooo your lying. The doctors just didn't want to be bothered. It's not the laws fault.
You know after watching this you’ve really opened my mind to things. Personally I don’t think I would ever have an abortion but thank god I haven’t been in that situation where I’d need to consider one.. but I don’t think it’s anyone else’s business why a woman would get one. Especially not our governments business
Thanks for watching and considering 👍🏼
I'm from Texas, and MDJ has put forth a very good scenario about how a lot of laws are enacted, not just in Texas, but this entire country. At one point in my life (college), birth control was just becoming available and it seemed very scary. Because I was so young and immature, I would have had an abortion out of pure ignorance. After I married, we had our first child who was born 2 1/2 months early because I had a ruptured appendix. My doctor would not do a c-section because the baby would have been exposed to peritonitis and her tiny little self was not far enough along to have the antibodies to fight off such a toxic situation. (Thank you Dr. KEMP!!!) They performed an extensive laparotomy from stem to stern to remove my appendix and clean out all the infection....the entire time my daughter stayed suspended IN my uterus and never was exposed. The medical team's hope was to place the baby and uterus back and stitch me up and hopefully let me carry her as close to term as possible. Three days later, she was delivered vaginally and didn't even weigh 3lbs! 10 days later she had lost weight and had to have open-heart surgery. (Dr. Jones will know what that is called....but her little heart had to work too hard to get enough oxygen through her little body.)
I spent many long hours in a wheelchair beside her neo-natal bassinet in NICU and saw preemies that legally could have been aborted because of their gestational age. My daughter had the best care at Baylor in Dallas and is about to turn 40 with two little boys of her own.
That entire experience changed my thoughts on abortion. I shudder at the thought of some women now...having abortions as birth control. But...as NONE of us are perfect, the fine details need to be filtered out. I learned up close and personal not to look at these pregnancies as disposable inconveniences. However, I do draw the line at it being legislated. I feel that a woman and her doctor need to make the best decision possible concerning each pregnancy. I cannot sit back and judge someone's very private decision whatever the case may be.
Who do you think pays for these abortions at some federally funded clinics? the government.
Women date and sleep with the same type of men that vote for these laws. Protest with men's weakness - p Ussy! Don't give men p Ussy that support these things in the voting booth and create a pussy drought. WATCH HOW QUICK MEN CHANGE.
Nor should some stranger be suing me or my doctor!
Why is it that outside the womb brain dead equals death but inside the womb it’s the “heart” that means life? There are unfortunately many people that are brain dead but their heart is still beating - and yet family can “pull the plug”???
I am a Texan - born and raised, and over the last few years I get to where I get embarrassed to say I’m a Texan.
Thank you so much for mentioning how pregnancy can escalate family violence (I am a family violence/sexual assault victim advocate).
This is an absolutely fantastic argument, thank you.
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VERY Good point! Just goes to show this law is not based on logic.
I never thought about this that's such a good point
I would then ask when brain activity is detectable in an unborn baby? Is that not a legitimate response to your point? My understanding is that occurs around weeks 5 or 6, too??
As an Irish woman who lived under these laws and fought to change them, I can guarantee that these kinds of laws will lead to more death not less. Sonita was a catalyst in this country to change the laws and I hope that these laws in Texas can be changed before a woman has to die needlessly. Thank you for your opinions on the matter and for highlighting points of view that haven't be considered before.
Sonita? I thought her name was Savita.
@@simransimran9339 eh autocorrect usually corrects ethnic names too
Hi 👋 Cassie, can I please ask you a question?
@Thomas Charlie Wayne Are you trying to scam someone on a youtube video? 🙄
I think that’s part of it. That’s the desired outcome. We’re living in a depop era and this fits right in.
If you are a pro-lifer there's no reason why you should be against vaccine mandates. If you are fine with the government controlling what medical procedures can be done on you, you must be fine with them mandating vaccines.
Unfortunately, it seems alot of pro-birthers are anti-vaxx. 😥
@@kuromyou7969 yikes
Not really, that has a lot of wholes in it. The biggest being outside forces being the ones to change things in people bodies.
the vaccines are still an experiment. 95% abortions are a form of birth control, thats is the real problem. As adults we are all part of this problem. Teaching more birth control is where the fix is at.
@@hollandspinehaven2634 Women who are born into good families, with bright futures tend to not have any problems with needing an abortion. Women born into a world of poverty, no future, no stable jobs, they tend to make mistakes those in a good family wouldn't. In order to stop abortions, we need to make sure that our society is put in order, no more corruption where all the working class wealth is sucked to the top, while all the jobs poor women need to work are shifted to poorer countries where U.S corporations can make more profit.
I think all doctors should "accidentally" forget to test for heartbeat in their procedures, and "accidentally" continue to recommend abortions after 6 weeks because their dates got mixed up
They should keep a super shitty old half broke ultrasound machine in the back for women who ask about abortion options.
Maybe we should start making a list of doctors who DO report heartbeats.
You know...
Just so ppl know who will keep them the most informed ;)
@@benenwren4110excellent suggestion
I'd just like to add that as a chronically ill/disabled person this is uniquely terrifying because a lot of us can't be on hormonal birth control for a litany of reasons, we're often not well enough to defend ourselves if something nonconsensual were to happen, often we have extremely unpredictable periods because of illness and medication, for a number of chronic illnesses like MS, cystic fibrosis, and EDS the sheer process of carrying a child very dangerous, and the most common issue I see being raised in a lot of discussions is there are a lot of life sustaining drugs, such as immunosuppressants in my case, that if we stop taking them our organs will fail but are also extremely dangerous to use when pregnant. Obviously this is super scary and frustrating for so, so many women I thought it was just worth positing a perspective someone may not have heard yet.
I have fibromyalgia, and while it can get along with pregnancy, there's a chance of making the condition significantly worse. I made to choice to take that risk, but I could never force someone to carry.
Pregnancy is also harder for people like us, because we can't take many/any of the meds that help keep us healthy and functioning. Our bodies have extra issues, and extra risk. This law does not care, the people who made it don't care.
@@rabbit__ Extremely well said. MDJ pointed it out herself this law is deeply racist, classist, and ableist and I really appreciate hearing your perspective as well.
I have AS. All the women in my family have AS and take either immunosuppressive drugs or anti-inflammatoires that cannot be taken during pregnancy (these drugs are essential to our health and pain management, but detrimental to the development of a healthy fetus). After watching the deterioration of my sister's condition during her pregnancy last year (AS is degenerative, and carrying a child seems to have permanently worsened her condition), I am grateful that as a Canadian, I have access to safe abortions, should I need/choose to have one in order to preserve what little physical and mental health I have left. It breaks my heart that others do not have access to procedures that should be treated as basic health care.
I have EDS and Endometriosis as well as many of their comorbidities and it makes pregnancy so so so risky. This whole thing is so terrifying and I'm so glad I don't live in Texas but I really feel for everyone in similar situations who have had their healthcare taken away from them. This law will kill so many people yet they have the audacity to call themselves "pro-life"
@@harley-amybanks2168 I totally agree! I have endo as well as lot as a lot of surgical scar tissue in my stomach. In a transplant group I’m in there are a few women from Texas all of whom are deeply anxious and I absolutely can’t imagine how they’re feeling now but I feel terrible that this type of classism and ableism is what we deal with as a society.
If a person miscarries and a family member or friend doesn't believe them they can sue a doctor for helping someone who miscarried. Ectopics have a heart beat so...we now wait for it to rupture and put mom at risk before removing the ectopic pregnancy? So gross.
Here in Brazil when someone has a miscarriage, doctors have to do biopsies and tests that proves that was a miscarriage and a group of doctors have to sign the paperwork saying that was a miscarriage from what I know
Something like this happened to my grandma in the early 60s. She had a late miscarriage, her doctor forgot to tell the US government about the miscarriage. Police showed up at her door to arrest her for an abortion when no baby birth was filed. She sat in jail until my grandpa could get ahold of her doctor to explain the error.
@@pigpjsThat is horrifying on so many levels.
@@pigpjs this happens in El Salvador today. There are multiple women in jail in El Salvador because they had a miscarriage.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite that's the saddest thing I've heard in a long long long time. What the fuck? Grieve for the death of your pregnancy and be jailed for nothing?
I used to be pro-life but your video has made me rethink things. I now consider myself pro-choice, anti-abortion. And before anyone freaks out, it means I don't want government banning abortions. It should be between the woman and her doctor. By anti-abortion I mean I want the government to do things that will actually lower the rates of abortion like expanded Medicaid for pregnant women, paid paternal leave, better education, better access to contraceptives (because let's be real, condoms won't cut it and they are what are accessible), improving adoption agencies and foster care, and improving the economy. All of these would lower abortion rates but not endanger the lives of women or the unborn babies pro-life (and myself) are wanting to protect so bad. Your video was very educating and had no insulting language which was very helpful for me. Also thank you for not saying a fetus isn't a life or something which is what I will sometimes see from pro-choicers on the internet. As someone who has had a couple miscarriages, it very much was a loss of life to me. But the lives of the mothers are important too. I'd say even more important because the baby depends on them.
Anti abortion done right, I respect it.
We need more people to be rational and willing to learn like you. Kudos to you for being open minded like this :)
Yes! Let’s reduce the DEMAND for abortions, not ACCESS TO abortions! I’ve likened it to legalizing divorce, or alcohol; it’s not that we are saying divorce or alcoholism are awesome things everyone should be doing, but instead that making certain bad things illegal only makes bad situations even worse. ❤
Yes I used to be pro-life too but learned a lot. Especially after praying my ass off to a god that apparantly cared less about abortions than myself.
Hi there! I see you point, and I think it's really smart. Adding onto your idea, I think doctors should be involved when making abortion legislature to explicit define what it means when a pregnant woman is in a "life-threatening situation."
As a woman who suffers from endometriosis for over half of my life and adenomyosis three years before my hysterectomy, I know the risks of carrying a pregnancy with a chronic medical condition. This “law” terrifies me.
Thank you for your educated and strong opinion. As a young woman I was in an abusive relationship with a very religious man. He raped me and got me pregnant as I cried for him to stop. I was fortunate enough to have a doctor understand what I was going through and help me understand my choices. I snuck away and got an abortion. And while people have told me that I would regret it, I never have regretted that decision. That decision was the start of me getting my life back. That pregnancy was tying me to him and would have put me in a worse situation. He probably would have eventually killed me. But hearing that doctor say to me that day that I had a choice was the moment I realized I had a choice in more that just pregnant or not.
I feel for the women in Texas who won't have that choice.
I'm so glad you were able to find a wonderful angel of a doctor who let you choose what you wanted to do with your body!
This is a scenario, among the religious and nonreligious, that I believe is far more common than most people know or want to admit. Exposing it is left up to victims of the abuse, and that shouldn't be the case. Thank you for speaking up.
@@sazaaaam Unfortunately you are incorrect when you state the choice to do what she wanted with “her body”. If she had an abortion the only reason is because there was ANOTHER BODY inside her body. This was a choice what to do with that other body. I am sad that the baby got the death penalty for the wrong that her monster man did to her. The baby didn’t need to die for her to get her life back.
I’m so sorry for the trauma and abuse you endured. I don’t want to minimize that in any way. But I did have a question, and that is regarding your statement that getting an abortion (killing the baby) was what gave you your life back. That if you had continued with the pregnancy it would have tied you to this man and would have ultimately likely led to your death. Could you not have left this abusive man and sought shelter somewhere safe and continued with your own life without him?
@@torch_of_justice it is not a baby first off, it's clump of cells
Second off the embryo is a parasite (not a bad term), you do not give autonomy to something that depends on the host for survival
Third off, if you're willing to give human rights to an embryo then by law it's illegal to coerce someone into letting someone else use their body, here it is the pregnancy
During my mom's pregnancy with me, she started bleeding 3 months early and went to the only hospital available (with religious affiliation). Her c-section was delayed for 12-hrs because 3 docs were required to say it wasn't an abortion. I was delivered with no heartbeat. As a result I am disabled with cerebral palsy & use a walker. Medical decisions need to be made by medical professionals & no one else.
I agree. I was born at 33 weeks premature and I had a grade 4 intra-ventricular hemorrhage and hydrocephalus in my brain. I have spastic hemiplegia cerebral palsy on my left side. My mom told me that she went into labor early with me and she originally thought that she was having false contractions, but it turned out to be actual labor. I was in the NICU for a month before my parents were allowed to take me home.
Yikes. Wait, crap like this causes cerebral palsy? Man, I kinda want to find numbers on this situation. If a paper analyzing how often doctors hesitating because of abortion laws cases the baby and/or mother long term harm or death blew up as much as that fake vaccine causes autism crap did, maybe it could make a difference and prevent more stupid laws like this
@@serpentmaster1323 that’s actually not the case. The reality is that we shouldn’t be allowing politics to get into healthcare. Cerebral palsy is caused by brain injuries that happen before, during, or right after birth.
Sorry if you got confused with the comments.
@@serpentmaster1323 It depends on the cause of the bleeding. My guess is that it was a placental abruption, given the emergency caesarian and the lack of heartbeat. So blood flow would have been cut off, and fetuses and infants are especially sensitive to that(so I've been told, I am not a medical professional). When blood flow to the brain is restricted, even in adults it only takes a few minutes for the brain to be damaged. Which is believed to be one of the primary causes of cerebral palsy.
@ Renee Hintz I'm so sorry.
I have to admit, anytime I thought of abortion. I would think of some girl who was sleeping around and just didn’t want to have a baby, and went on and lived her life. But you truly opened my eyes there are women whose lives are truly in danger, and the baby is sick and wouldn’t live anyways. Just a sad situation. Thank you for this video.
I know so many people who think that and I have to explain to them that it’s not always like that and frankly, most of the time it’s not like that but no one ever seems to listen because they’ve just got this personified picture of what they want to believe and it’s sad.
Honestly thank god for the internet and for people like you, or I would be just as close-minded as my parents are. I used to think "oh, why abort, don't be such a horrible woman and mother, just give birth and give the baby up for adoption" but now I know better. I understand the diversity of the situations better and I understand the purpose of abortion better.
your parents are ignorant and selfish. at least you are smart enough to be different.
In many cases adoption isnt an awesome solution either... so many people have emotional trauma from being in the foster system as they are swapped homes, separated from siblings, or just feel unwanted since it takes so so long for the government to allow a family to adopt (and you better not be single or gay or you're not good enough to adopt). So many problems here 😥
@@achaides -- The neonatal adoption system is separate from the foster care system, and its supply/demand problem actually cuts the other way: there are more couples looking for newborn babies than there are newborn babies to be adopted.
Me too girl!
In other words you used to be a good person.
So some child is going to be assaulted by their family member and then be forced to probably give custody to their abuser because Texas CPS and parental rights are as much of a joke as this bill is.
*taps mic* Yes
Those rights of the sperm donor should be terminated. I would love to see that written into law. Because the family courts here are a joke
It's already happened many times all over, but this does make it the default protocol, yeah. Then the abuser will probably rape that child, rinse and repeat. Children have less rights than animals, less rights than an unborn fetus, and are treated as property and toys and a lot of these people see no issue with that. It's sick.
Texas is a big joke
@@christopherbzowski4346 I wish I could be offended by this, but as a transplanted Texan, it seems like a joke to me as well, only not the funny kind. 😔
I normally get really upset when listening to people talk about abortions. Listening to you discuss this, I feel that my concerns are addressed in this video. My questions were answered in a way that doesn’t make me feel lectured at. You did a wonderful job at explaining the law. I think it’s a person’s choice.
now take what you have learned, and go protest failed legislators that keep trying to circumvent laws it took us as a nation 200 years to work out. Greg Abbott is an evil man, and needs to go. now.
Too bad the innocent baby has no choice.
@@torch_of_justice did you watch the video in it’s entirety? If so, do you support the Texas bill being discussed?
@@elenagerhardy2636 I don’t have to watch it in it’s entirety to see where the author is at. I heard enough and saw the comments. That tells a lot. So do I support the bill? Yes and no. I support ending abortion. The bill does not completely eliminate it, but discourages the vast majority. The interesting thing is “mama Jones” is concerned about these various situations including ones that she would say put the mother’s life in danger. So from that perspective it is interesting and important to note that, the bill actually excludes abortions that are in the interest of saving the life of the mother, so the idea that this bill is putting mothers lives in jeopardy is completely ludicrous. So the question comes down to what is the fight against this bill really about? It’s about the war against the idea that we could actually have to deal with the consequences of our actions. It’s about denying the reality that choices have consequences and bad choices have victims and rather we should be able to do just whatever we feel like doing regardless of how it affects another. Whether or not there’s a baby involved, sex outside of marriage is damaging all the way around.
@@torch_of_justice it doesn’t exclude abortions when the mothers life is in danger because determining whether her life is in danger is completely up to interpretation. there is no clear answer on what makes her life in danger. all pregnancies can be life threatening. birth control fails. people get raped. just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t mean you should have control over other people.
A woman I knew during high school died while pregnant when she was 25. The baby that was delivered three months early could not be saved. It was a complicated pregnancy and she was in a lot of pain. The hospital has later admitted mistakes.
There are no abortion laws like this where this took place. But my point with bringing it up here is that for patients like her which is in lots of pain and the hospital does not manage to give quick enough or struggle to give good enough healthcare, that is a job hard enough, if healthcare professionals not also have to think about legal implications of terminating a pregnancy that puts the mother in such pain, and that she wanted in this case, to end to manage to live.
@@RC-qf3mp great that this was the information you took out of it and wanted to comment on after more than a year. English is my second language and I am sorry that you do not understand my grammar. She was not 25 in high school, though that is entirely in my country because people can go back for a different education. I knew her during our version of high school, which we attend at 16-19 years. She died when she was 25 years old and pregnant.
I think it’s crazy that if you are raped you have to go through that hard time of 9 months pregnancy and giving birth and it could be that you are only 14 years old. People are probably gonna bully and judge you, I could not imagine going to school at my age and being pregnant without wanting to
or sadly even younger
“It’s a classist, ableist, racist law that affects the people at the bottom of this socioeconomic hierarchy from accessing this procedure.” You hit the nail on the head. Thank you for making this video even though it puts you at risk.
@@savinggracehomestead2687 no we are recognising that by not providing this service to minorities and the poor that we are causing undue harm to them - perpetuating their already diminished autonomy, health status and freedoms.
yeah like I don't know if there was anything like this before but if it was unclear why black women die in pregnancy more in the US, after this law we will know why it's happening
@@mery5989 one reason black women have a higher maternal mortality rate is because physicians (not all) often were trained under antique “science” and also don’t listen to the women because of biases that the doctors have.
I agree that it's classist and ableist, because ultimately what will separate women who want an abortion is whether or not they have the financial and physical means to get one. I don't agree that it's racist, and I've always found it quite patronizing when this word is thrown in as well. Racism is discrimination based on race. It's not discrimination based on something else that happens to disproportionately affect a particular race. This law, for example, will be a hundred times harder on a poor white woman out in rural Texas than an upper middle class Hispanic woman in Dallas. If this were a truly racist law, it'd be the other way around.
maybe they shouldn't get pregnant. easy
It's honestly mind boggling that it's even legal to pass laws without consulting a team of experts. Especially with medical laws
Makes me wonder if this can be disputed in a court of law. Can you file a lawsuit against a law that has no backing by professionals in the field of which it is governing?
I can say the same thing for the covid vaccine
@@uncleruckus4033 Which COVID vaccine? Their are several. Also, the vaccines were produced in laboratories by scientist who ARE professionals in their field. It’s also not all about you, rather it helps the population. Nothing about about banning abortion is helpful.
Most of these laws are written or cribbed from special interest groups that lobby state legislatures. They can be written in conjunction with lawyers and other experts. But these heartbeat bills, as Dr. Jones explains, isn't written with input from any doctors.
Roe wasn't based on the constitution and was decided by 7 male lawyers. Enough said.
This woman is a beacon of light in a dark world.
No she isnt.
She is. She looks at all sides and is very understanding.
I became even more upset when following Texas's law, Idaho decided to "step it up". The governor himself said I could be used to abuse victims and survivors of abuse further. Yet signed a bill against abortions after 6 weeks then allowing any living relative of the "potential baby" to bring a lawsuit, unless it was an assault/abuse scenario, then it has to be his or her family, not him. Our fines here are $25,000 if I recall correctly. As a victim of childhood abuse this terrifies me. I know how little I was when it started and how lucky I was that It took me almost 6 years to become pregnant. (and forced into an at home abortion)
It was a terrifying experience for a barely 14 year old girl and I never want a child to have to go through any of what I did. They need safe and available options for them so that they can get proper healthcare. No matter what that care might look like to others. It needs to be between the patient and the doctor, not some person in a chair somewhere being judgmental or a cultist with an agenda to punish you for finally escaping (Which still happens all too often in the USA)
I feel this so much. My pregnancy, that ended in Jan2019, had a 2% survival chance. My husband and I had already experienced a misarrange and multiple months of late periods that gave us false hope. Now we were actually pregnant. A baby was coming. We just had to make it to 12 weeks and we were safe... at my appointment I was sent to a perinatal specialist. There was an ultrasound and a biopsy that confirmed the condition. If the baby survived the pregnancy, she would not survive the birth. My husband and I decided that termination was the better option. We were heartbroken. We cried for weeks. And in August of 2019 we got pregnant again. Now I have a beautiful, HEALTHY baby girl who is telling my dog to sit with a demanding point. If I had continued with that pregnancy I would not have the gift I have now. That's my story. Sorry for the rant. Love you MamaDJ
Exception are present for endangerment of the mother if you can prove it (it's strict but present exception)
@@gamecoolguy619 That has no bearing on what she said. She said that the first baby could not survive the birth. This law would have forced her to carry that baby to term and watch it die instead of termination and trying again.
@@NeoCreo1 where in the law does it state it will force women to carry to term even if it has high chance it would kill them?
@@gamecoolguy619 where does it say otherwise? What are the exceptions to the law?
Beautiful story! Happy for you!
Thank you for talking about Savita. Her death was preventable, and we will never forget her. She changed Ireland forever, may she rest in power ❤
A woman in Polland died the same exact way as Savita. They have a new abortion law same as Texas.
How horrible is this?
I understand a woman in Malta is now in this situation. Now that Roe v Wade is gone, I fear this will happen in the US.
More deaths in Poland. ''Thanks to this law, doctors cant help me. A woman is like an incubator. Lets hope I dont get sepsis or I will never leave this place'' Izabella Sajbor texted her mom before dying of sepsis from a miscarriage. Made me cry
A young woman in Poland (mother of a nine year old daughter) recently died because her doctors followed Poland's anti-abortion laws - her water broke in 22 weeks, but instead of operating immediately, they waited until the fetus died and she died of sepsis. Laws like this are terrifying and can have terrible consequences for women.
I was almost raped at 10, and by then I was a couple months from having my first period.
The amount of shock I was in at that age, and PTSD it gave me for years, (also since I kept quiet, I get to see him in school, he's a senior im a sophmore), I would never be able to live if I had actually been raped and gotten pregnant- and had to keep it.
Im more than sure my mother would have let me get an abortion, for my own physical safely as I was a small 10 year old who would have been at much risk.
If I was in Texas, or another anti-abortion place, then I know I would have died. Either from birth, or my own hands. Due to my PTSD and being trans, going to a woman's clinic is very frightening for me. I feel like I could turn a corner and he's there watching.
Mainly, I wish we were taught what assault was when we were younger. So I could tell somebody. Because I was just a child with a bad relationship with my parents, so I felt alone. And even when I did come out to my grandma about it, she blamed me.
I hate how most of my friends have some form of sexual trauma. And this law is only going to make it worse. Fuck Texas. Fuck pro-life.
Thank you for being brave enough to share this. It takes a lot to speak up about this.
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😂😂😂 mothers life is protected in every state. Your dramatics are not necessary.
@@susanwest4137 who are you talking to right now
@@mantis-manthegreat you.
I'm glad you talked about the "information" that's required to be given to a patient considering termination. About a decade ago, I was living in Texas and had a pregnancy where the embryo/fetus (I'm not sure which is the correct term here) died and was making me VERY sick, my doctor said it was basically starting to rot inside my body. Despite it being necessary to save my life, I STILL had to go through the 24-hr waiting period and listen to the recording of the "information", and it made the whole situation even more traumatic. It's not an easy thing to go through. On top of the trauma of the experience was what happened to my hormones. I did basically nothing except cry for the next 3 days. Even after that I was only barely able to pull myself together to go to work.
That's just horrible. I'm so sorry. ❤
Holy hell, I'm so sorry you had to go through that. That sounds so barbaric and torturous :(
I'm so sorry that happened to you. My sister in law (who thankfully does NOT live in Texas!) just had a miscarriage at 12 weeks of a child they DESPERATELY wanted, no heartbeat...and I genuinely do not know where she would go to get services rendered to save her own life. It's horrifying.
I am so sorry you went through that.❤️
I'm sorry you experienced this and you are not alone.❤🤍🖤
One of my friend’s 80 year old grandma was still sexually active with her partner. She miraculously got pregnant, and had to have an abortion for what should be obvious reasons. I’m glad she wasn’t in Texas and that this happened a couple years ago, because this bill would have been the death of her. Plus, even in late medeaval/early renaissance times they were starting to recognize that girls under the age of fourteen tended to have a harder time carrying children, and doctors of the age were encouraging people to wait to have babies until their wives were at least that old. (It is worth noting that in that era, the age of consent was highly controversial, since the people of that era thought that putting an age limit on something was arbitrary and outrageous.) So if they understood that back then, why are we actively prohibiting children under that age, who likely didn’t understand what was happening and are at much higher risk of complications from getting a life-saving, early term abortion? I’ve heard of children as young as twelve getting pregnant. That’s disgusting to even think about, and this law makes it so that CHILD has to bear a child until either they miscarry or they are literally ACTIVELY DYING before they can get an abortion! I can only hope that in these instances that people come to an agreement that no one will say anything if a procedure is done on children until this law is repealed.
She wasn't menopausal at 80?
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Some women's bodies are different. Even during menopause, women can still concieve. It's not perfect clockwork, which is why a healthy women's uterus can reject an implanted, fertilized egg for whatever random reasons deemed necessary, and we don't even know about it.
@@beetlebob4675 no they can't. That's what menopause is. It's possible with IVF, but not naturally.
I'll take "Things that didn't happen" for 200, Alex.
@@kuromyou7969 yes they can. Google is free. It's rare, not impossible
I know many won’t agree, and that’s okay. Difference of opinion is how we learn. In my opinion, these laws violate the first amendment regarding separation of church and state. At it’s core, this is an abstinence law. It’s saying don’t have sex unless you will carry the child. These kinds of laws are rooted in a Christian belief system that premarital sex and abortion are both unethical and against the word of god. While you are welcome to have any belief system you like for yourself (and may even be correct) it is still unlawful to write laws based on religious principle alone. Science does not back this legislation. Data from across the world verifies how unhealthy this decision is. Not only does this legislation unfairly target women (also violating the constitution), it is going to result in countless deaths. Especially when the Supreme Court decisions to overturn Roe vs Wade and Planned Parenthood vs Casey is confirmed, and a wave of anti-termination laws sweep across the South and Midwest. I’ve never been more ashamed to be Texan. I’ve always been proud of my state and actively promoted it to others. I no longer can in good faith. This WILL costs lives. It sets America, once again, behind our peers in terms of being a modern and fair society. It again puts beliefs and emotions above science and data. We need change and this is the wrong direction. It’s a shame.
I’m confused as to when and where exactly science and medicine became unimportant, or only important when it suits a particular agenda.
I’m genuinely confused as to why the United States insists on backtracking progress. You’re right that data not just across this country but across the entire world shows how unhealthy this decision is. I thought we already covered this when god knows how many women died from unregulated abortion. I always think of that scene from “if these walls could talk” with Demi Moores character bleeding out to death on her kitchen floor after a botched abortion. The people behind these laws are very sick people. I understand that that was a movie scene, but it absolutely can and does happen to women.
@@memyselfi2005 You are absolutely correct. It’s sad that we continue to see politics be more important than people. The agenda behind this and other recent events (I’m sad to say in my home state) becomes more and more clear the more we see it play out. Not that it wasn’t already. The same people that claim to support these laws because they are “constitutionalist”, are the same ones ignoring another vital part of that constitution that separates church and state. This is why. This was the reason our forefathers put this in the constitution. This is the outcome they for saw even then. It won’t stop until out politics change. It won’t stop until a new generation decides enough is enough and votes for change. We have to raise our children better. It’s our only hope. Let’s just hope we aren’t too late.
As someone who has had an abortion because I was raped, this Texan ban absolutely disgusts me. I was only 16 at the time and to think that in Texas I wouldn't be able to even make my own choice on what to do is just crazy. Thankfully I live in the U.K. Everybody has the right to choose what to do with their own bodies. Having an abortion is a difficult decision no matter what circumstances brought you to that point, be it rape, incest or health of the baby/mum. It is one of the most harrowing and hardest decisions a person will ever make. For me there was no other option, at just 16 I didn't want a baby and certainly not one from the worst moment of my life. For me it was hard enough to cope with being raped and to get through the depression of that. I honestly think that if I'd been forced to continue the pregnancy then I would have committed suicide. You don't have to agree with abortions personally but everyone deserves the right to choose for themselves what is best for them. Thank you Mama Doctor Jones for posting this video x
I was raped at 14/15 and it disgusts me because I have had the conversation with my own father “if I had gotten pregnant with my abusers child, you wouldn’t have been ok with me getting an abortion” and his response “I wouldn’t put my opinion into the matter, it would be up to your mom”. Not up to me though?? My best friend has a story similar to yours, I can’t fathom people who can’t understand that if the baby isn’t wanted, forcing the woman to carry that fetus is so traumatizing. The ignorance and lack of humanity in these types of laws is horrifying.
I had one too, but it wasn't a hard decision for me. I was really upset because I felt like my ex had manipulated me and purposely got me pregnant by not telling me his condom broke. So I had one and I don't regret it and he's out of my life. He's a bit upset still, but I think it's more so because he no longer has any control of me and I can take care of myself without anyone else now. I will say though it was painful and the emotions right after you have one are so intense because of the hormones flowing through you after you do it, but after about a week I was fine again.
@@kgal1298 I had a similar experience and I don't regret my decision either. I'm grateful that I was able to get away from him without any ties. Abusers will use a child as an excuse to stay in your life in order to control you. This in turn affects the child's life as well and I wasn't going to feel responsible for destroying a child's life because of my poor choice in men at the time. All I can say is you never know what you would do unless it actually happens to you. Great video with actual medical facts. ❤️
I may have disspell your idea of UK abortion laws. The UK abortion act 1967 states:
Abortion is legal in cases of rape, incest, danger to the life of the mother, when the foetus is not viable (will not survive), the child is likely to have mental or physical abnormalities, or the foetus is dead.
The Human Rights Act 1988 strengthened these provisions, citing a woman’s right to a family and private life. This adds to the protection of women and ensures that she can get a safe abortion.
Basically the UK operates on a huge grey area but as no government since has wanted to control womens reproduction rights you can simply ask for an abortion but under a reason a doctor would just say mental health concerns for continuing pregnancy.
It would be very easy to mess with these laws so watch who you vote for.
@@nevadag606 as a survivor as rape myself I'm so sorry that happened to you, I'm glad you had the support/ was able to at least have the option and go on with life
I started my period right after I turned nine years of age. I was also a victim of long-term incest/sexual abuse.
I am very fortunate that I wasn't made pregnant by the perpetrator.
However, the experience was so entirely traumatic, that I cannot imagine myself staying alive long enough to carry that person's child. I feel like many abuse victims are already not given the support they need, and they is just a horrifying addition to the actual reality of the situation.
I wish lawmakers understood this more.
Oh, they do understand. They just don't care :(
@@DiurnalOwl Some of them are even the perps
I hope you are now ok and always know that you are not alone in this.
I started my period at 9 as well. I’m sorry this happened to you, very very sorry. I hope you are well truly. Or on your way to being well. However, this rarely happens (a 9 year old becoming pregnant due to abuse). So the law cannot be around the less than 1%’s, if you will.
And if it did, a doctor who would make a 9 year old carry a child to term when it belongs to a family member, would be morally terrible. I don’t think that would happen. Or maybe I’m wrong. But I’m pretty sure a doctor in their right mind would never, ever make that decision.
@@reyrey6295 I am in a very good place now. I was lucky to have a therapist who specializes in trauma recovery, help me with my journey. I also really liked "The Body Keeps The Score" by Bessel van der Kolk and absolutely recommend it for anyone who's suffered any type of abuse or traumatic event.
There are many reasons someone would want to get an abortion, and I think it really is a very personal decision that lawmakers shouldn't be controlling. Even if their reason for wanting an abortion is simply because they're not ready to be taking care of children, it's a lot better than putting the child into the system of foster care and adoption, or even possibly neglecting or abusing children. To have a child not only should you want to have the child, but you should always be prepared for any possible outcome, children are individual human beings and they may not always stick to your rules and beliefs, etc.
I am fully expecting suicide rates to spike. Being pregnant is my absolute nightmare, and honestly if it came down to it and had no way out, it’s likely I’d take myself out. I know I’m not alone in having intense phobia regarding pregnancy and especially birth. The trauma of a forced birth would scar anyone for life and I cannot fathom how horrible the guaranteed PTSD would be.
@@wendymtzc those ways are not 100% reliable
@@kitty4123 just a way to be lazy and to shirk responsibility. Pregnancy is 100% avoidable through abstinence. But people are wanting to prioritise sexual pleasure over their own health. Birth control is extremely effective when used properly. You have no excuse to be an idiot about this when you have the internet with 100,000s of videos and websites dedicated to sexual health. Educate yourself and take real control over your own body. Nobody else can do it for you. Stop submitting to the idea that this is out of your control. Its not.
You have a phobia you need a phyciatist not an abortion.
I don't know if you'll see this, MamaDoctorJones, but you should team up with LegalEagle and do a video on this legislation. Both of you have very different expertise that overlaps here and I would absolutely watch the heck out of it!
Absolutely!! I want this so bad now. Let's roast this thing from both sides.
I was just thinking that too watching this as I watched Devan's video last night.
It's really scary to think that not only are other states already looking at similar laws (FL) but that this tactic of "it's not the state enforcing, so you can't say it's unconstitutional" could be applied it so many other ways. Very hypocritical that many of those Protect the Constitution folks, are the same that see no issues with laws like this that bypass the protections for ALL, that are written into it, and it's amendments.
I'm really curious about the Freedom of Religion take, that The Satanic Temple has brought forth, saying that it's a religious right, and have told the FDA that its members should have access to abortion medication without being subject to this regulations.
But even beyond TST, I've seen several Jewish Rabbis state that abortion is permitted under Jewish laws as the health of the mother has precedence, and it's not just "Mom will die", but their long term physical and mental health that matter too.
But I'm not sure how these would work where the law bypasses a state agent.
@@sillydrizzy2985 i havent thought about it that way. If texas has become a sort of surveillance state where the perscutor is now the judge, jury, and (lets be honest especially with the loose gun laws) executioner, wouldnt texas eventually be looking at anarchy? The ammendments arent going to apply to the victims if the gov isnt directly involved. Ive got family down there and i know how batshite insane the religious ones get. Religious freedom isnt going to matter to them when they believe they are doing “gods work”
@@sillydrizzy2985 I had a comment that tells people outside of Texas to stat funding and fundraise now. Not if you’re a Texan but it’s going to be incredible important for women to be able to afford their own transportation.
LegalEagle has never practiced law after passing the bar exam.
I'm 22. I already have 3 autoimmune diseases, one of which would make any pregnancy high-risk. There's also a strong genetic factor for me as both my mother and maternal grandmother have autoimmune diseases. Im still unable to find an OBGYN who's even willing to sit down and seriously discuss it, despite all of my specialists and primary care doctor supporting my decision and acknowledging that I'm well versed in my reasoning and my options. One of the reasons given was literally, "what if you get married and your husband wants children?" Like, if I get married and haven't had this discussion with my partner, WHO MIGHT NOT EVEN BE A SPERM PRODUCING PERSON, that marriage already has problems and we shouldn't be having children. Also, why does this fictional person matter more than me??? I have three autoimmune diseases and I do not want to willingly put another person through what I have to go through currently, which is a reasonable reason for my decision.
Please come to Mayo Clinic for your health care
My mom had a similar issue when she was trying to get her tubes tied (which she succeeded at) only in her case she had no autoimmune disorders at that point, but was 45. And yet some doctors (and one random lady at the park) still felt the need to be like, "But what if your husband wants more kids?" Her response was that he would need to find a younger wife. (Note: I'm the result of an accidentally pregnancy that happened when my mom was 44, hence her concern that it could potentially happen again.) This turned out to be a very wise decision, because shortly after that her T-cells decided that her thyroid had to die (Hashimoto's disease) and apparently that is not a good thing to have undiagnosed during pregnancy
I also think that "not wanting to be pregnant" and "not wanting to have kids" can be separate things. It's totally okay to want both, neither, or one of the two.
I'm in the same situation as you.
@@Amy_the_Lizard one of my autoimmune diseases is hashimotos, though I'm currently in remission thanks to being on methotrexate due to another autoimmune disease (something I would have to get off before even attempting to get pregnant as it causes fatal birth defects 100% of the time). Thyroid hormones control the development of a fetus, so having too much thyroid hormone or too little is a massive risk to a fetus. Additionally, both going undetected for an extended period of time can cause thyroid storm (hyperthyroidism) or a coma (hypothyroidism).
The big problem is the lack of separation of religious beliefs about an unborn child and people who don't believe in that. It's also concerning to me that children and young women or women in general being forced to carry a child that's a product of rape. Especially for mothers who look young or are in fact young and underage having to deal with that stigma of people assuming that they are trash for being unwed pregnant women when in fact it's a product of rape.
This is why we should fight for separation of church and state. Religion and gov't should have NOTHING to do with each other. It's a personal belief and should have nothing to do with law. We live in a melting pot of humans. It's time for the USA to stop being a theocracy.
As a trans man (for those who aren’t as familiar with the terms, I was assigned female at birth and am in the process of transitioning to male) the prospect of getting pregnant is terrifying to me. Even just being on my period tanks my mental health to the extreme, I can’t imagine what being pregnant would feel like.
This law is absolutely unethical and I feel afraid to live in Texas
Praying Tanaka wishes you all the best in your transition
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Praying Tanaka wishes there was more compassion in the world regarding abortion laws. People don’t understand how mentally/emotionally tough anything revolving pregnancy is.
I have to say, you have truly given me a lot to think about. I've been pro life for a good portion of my adult life (46 yo). I've given birth 3 times, and they're all grown, happy and healthy thankfully. I expected to watch this, get pissed off, and leave a comment about the evils of abortion...clearly, that's not what happened. I very much appreciate the respectful way you laid out the facts of this law and I really have some thinking to do. Thank you
It's great to see people being open to re-evaluate their positions. Not enough people are willing to do that - on all sides of the debate spectrum. Kudos to you!
@@lauralaforge558 Fetal isn't the same as prenatal. Because by that logic, embryonic also means prenatal - but embryonic and fetal are not synonymous with each other, as they refer to two different stages of pregnancy. Ergo those two terms cannot be synonymous with prenatal either, as both of these stages in development are prenatal.
The embryonic stage is when the zygote becomes an embryo. The fetal stage is when the embryo becomes a fetus.
Prenatal just means pertaining to the organism before birth. Full stop.
Medicinal terms are deliberately given very specific definitions in order to avoid causing confusion among similar terms. But the everyday person, who doesn't know much about medicine, can easily mix up similar terms and *think* two terms are synonyms when they are not.
To clarify, synonyms means two words sharing the exact same (or almost the exact same) definition. As I demonstrated here, fetal and prenatal are not synonyms, because their meanings are quite different.
Please try to actually do your research before making such posts. Otherwise you're just spreading misleading information because you don't even understand the topic fully yourself, and are leading others down the same path - deliberately or not.
@@lauralaforge558 "fetal cardiac activity" and "fetal heartbeat" aren't synonyms.
Regardless, both "when electrical activity begins in the embryonic cells that will eventually develop into a heart" and "when the fetal heart forms and begins to beat" are arbitrary lines that don't have a meaningful medical basis. They're just medical terminology used as a fig leaf for what is really a philosophical, and fundamentally arbitrary, argument.
@@lauralaforge558 As a linguist, I appreciate your focus on terminology, but I would point out that there are differences between professional, formal, colloquial, and erroneous usage of any given term. Additionally, over time, definitions in each of those example categories can change. New research might bring new understanding to a particular term; new usage might go viral and alter the colloquial definition (see what I did there?).
OP, I truly wish to commend you on exploring further aspects of this topic. Whether or not your overall opinion changes, whether or not your opinion becomes more nuanced and allows for grey areas, no matter what conclusions you ultimately come to after your reflection, it’s very impressive for someone to genuinely consider arguments on both sides. I try to consciously consider an issue from many different perspectives, but I’m not perfect lol.
Also, I’m pretty sure absolutely everyone on the internet does that thing where you click on a video you know you’re going to hate and just tear it apart in the comments. It’s a hobby I try not to indulge, but I’m definitely guilty of that too!! 🤣🤣
A man that is knew went to jail because my best friend, his daughter, got pregnant with his child and committed suicide. He prevented her from getting an abortion and she was too scared to run away or do it under his nose. She was an amazing girl and I loved her like a sister. I couldn’t do anything then because I was too young and I refused to do anything without her consent after both of ours had been taken away. Now, the state of Texas is trying to do the same thing that took my best friend’s life.
Thats so sad... Im glad Germany allows abortion for victims of abuse, if it's medically reasonable or under specific circumstances with a counseling by a doctor.
Also women can give birth anonymously and give up the child for adoption immediately after, women can give up already born babies for adoption anonymously and both without cost.
Shaming women for premarital pregnancy isn't a thing and contraceptives are available for teenagers even without parents concent. Teenagers can visit doctors without their parents and a 15yo pregnant girl will get help and will be led into programs helping her to be safe, to decide in a calm environment and teenagers can have the right to have doctors not tell the parents about their condition. Doctors will likely advise teenagers to involve parents but will also get external help if someone comes in with a problem and is convinced that their parents won't be helping or might even harm them so they can get someone to advise them, support them.
Holy !!! Omg I am SO SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THAT!!!!!💔💔💔
This is horrible!
I'm so sorry for your loss, and I wish you peace
I am so sorry to hear this oh my god... may she rest in peace
So, someone really close to me told me that she wanted to be sterilized because she wasn't going to be forced to carry a pregnancy. I was horrified, but it's a huge topic among young women. And there are hundreds.
Not sure if this is what you mean by “sterilized” but I’m asexual & a few folks in the ace community have been considering getting a hysterectomy because if they ever got raped, they wouldn’t be able to legally get an abortion.
After watching this video, I suspect aces and/or many rape victims would likely fall into the category of people diligent enough to follow the “happy path” scenario she first described (because someone terrified they might become pregnant would probably buy a bunch of tests & just keep testing every few days until they get their period) but honestly, a hysterectomy seems like it could be cheaper & less stressful… I need to watch her other video before deciding though.
@@qataripekarsky Several want their uterus removed. Some are having their fallopian tubes cut. So it is permanent and can't be undone. Permanent sterilization is how it's been described when opting for these procedures. And her reasons as well as many of my lesbian friends are because they don't want to be forced to carry a child due to rape or not be able to terminate for medical reasons. In rape cases people have to report the rape, prove they were raped, etc further traumatizing the woman. I apologize for the long answer but I'm so tired of this.
I am a female Texan that has been trying to understand this draconian legislation, and you have given me such a better understanding. Thank you so much for providing all of the ways it impacts people. I will be a better advocate now, and I feel for you as a physician that has her ability to care for patients inhibited by uninformed and uneducated people.
Her views are obviously slanted. Mothers life is protected in every state, even Texas.
@@susanwest4137they clearly dont read the bills in pro life states that restrict abortions except when there is risk of death or physical damage. Instead they use the tiny percent of medically necessary abortions to push for abortions for any reason
what you said about not being able to force a mother to donate a kidney to her born child is the argument I've been making for years 👏
if you think abortion should be illegal, you either think that a foetus **loses** rights after it is born, or you think that a pregnant woman has fewer rights than a corpse
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This! Louder for the people in the back!
As a veterinarian living in New Zealand, I am absolutely disgusted by this ridiculous and inhumane law. Texas has nearly given women less rights than cattle. If I an treating a pregnant cow that is unlikely to survive a pregnancy, I am required by law to terminate it for her welfare.
never thought I'd have less rights than bovine here in Texas lol wtf
@@autumnmusic22 ahahahahahaha
Now that IS truly disturbing...
@@Tania-rg7jp you know that...past methods of abortions rarely if at all, never worked....right?
Frankly I think any targeted by this law should file Human rights , civil rights lawsuit not just with Federal court but with International Court of Justice.
I cannot imagine living my life, as someone who is chronically unwell with two genetic conditions, on a cocktail of drugs, in horrific pain, and as someone who has never been in a relationship or sexually active, despite being almost 30, being made (God forbid) pregnant against my will, and made to, despite these issues, still carry the baby to term. I am so blessed to live in NZ and I cannot imagine the suffering laws like this cause.
Not to speak much on the complicated trauma r4pe and 1nc3st cause, but the fact that, were I in such a situation where I was being made to carry a baby, the knowledge that such an infant would, against even my intent, have no chancr at a good start to life, or even be able to live at all due to what my body is incapable of doing currently, and due to what horrific meds I am on that would harm a growing foetus, meaning it would be such a cruelty to bring such a life of suffering upon an innocent infant...!!
Truly, I write here as someone who is devout in their belief, and personally not supportive for abortions in the sense, aka of using it like it's the late contraception someone was too careless to take, but ALSO as someone who, conversely, now also understands they have their own agency to make such suggestions instead of what I personally believe, and likewise understands the danger making abortions illegal ..... well. I cannot think of many things more un-Christlike than valuing an unborn, incomplete foetus over the lives and futures of their carrier, and turning a woman into nothing more than a vessel.
I have waffled on this issue through out my life ... This video has opened up my eyes to a lot of stuff I have never known or considered. I am really glad I saw it.
Hello there Kate nice meeting you here
I am glad that you're willing to have you eyes opened. Thats what gives me hope for the future. People wiling to changing their minds and listen and take different actions.
As a Canadian, this entire thing is beyond my scope of comprehension. I had a very serious pregnancy complication, in my country, I was offered all my options including medical abortion, with no judgement or fear of persecution.
We have our issues too sadly, especially in rural, remote northern areas, and a lot of the East Coast (outside of the larger cities) have extremely limited access, and often have to travel long distances for any care. I know there are no easy answers to that, but a big issue is not having enough OBGYN specialists who can travel. They need to be offered greater incentives to do so, which requires more funding.
Honestly I don’t understand Americans. They seem to hate women. I’m so glad I’m not American.
@@lesley-janesmith4004 as an American woman, yes I feel hated
As an American who visited Canada recently, one of the big ‘culture shock’ moments was seek a poster at the train station advertising post-abortion couples therapy. It shows that abortion can be normal and still tragic, and doesn’t carry implications for the couple.
I drive past anti abortion billboards on my way to work, so it was weird to see the polar opposite
We need to start taking women from Texas as refugees tbh
There is also a very real risk of women dying by suicide when they feel like they have no options and can’t live with the trauma of the reality of their situation that led them to consider abortion to begin with.
I would definitely commit suicide if I ever got pregnant and couldn't get abortion. These laws are just straight up cruel.
Very good point, sadly
Or they'd try getting illegal abortions or try to abort it themselves which will often have terrible side effects + possible death. It's horrible.
@@chunkymoonbear Same. No hesitation.
Let's talk about the suicide rate of women that have aborted their baby!!!!
There is literally no reason to ban abortion. I cannot understand why anyone would be ok with abortion bans and think that's a good thing and "saving lives"
@@oldworldorder9424 You already weren't making any sense, _then_ you mentioned "white" culture? Ya freak?
So in theory you could be sued for giving someone an abortion but you could also be sued by the family for NOT giving them an abortion and letting them die....
The darker side to this is what happens to all the children that are forced into abusive and drug filled homes only to be swallowed up by the system and abused for their whole lives. Do not say you care about children and then allow this to happen.
Overworked, stressed out, underpaid. This is the foster care system and it's only going to get worse.
The fact that this law is not willing to put rape into the exception category is beyond right. Rape is a traumatizing experience. A person who got raped and got pregnant will be forced to either deliver the child and live with the constant reminder of that event or to end the child’s and probably their own lives. And I can almost guarantee that the child won’t be growing up in a great environment. Congratulations, we got two broken people! Not like we have more than enough already.
Even worse if the victim is of a young age. They are literally not ready to be a parent, physically or mentally, and you expect them to deliver? What kind of sick monster are you?
I just hope this won’t last. I also hope it won’t take a life to knock some sense into people who wrote this bill and got it passed.
Yeah imagine your being raped by your own parents and the state is like, yeah maybe we're going to get you out of this family but you still have to go through the traumatising and literally life changing experience of giving birth. If I wouldn't know they were christians I would think that's the ritual of a satanic cult tbh.
@@jana731 you're still not wrong. Ideals of religions are rarely reflected in the actions of their "followers"
Can you tell me what law or what bill you're referring to? I'm being serious. By your wording, it sounds like I missed something
In their mentality, a person who is raped "seeked it" with their attire, demeanor, etc. So they still want to punish her.
Victim-blaming at its finest.
I'm not defending the law at all but I think they see it in a way that not all rape are proven or have enough evidence.
This is honestly sounding very no-win. To me, it sounds like a doctor could be sued for carrying out a life saving abortion if the mother lives following an abortion, but also if the abortion is not done and the mother dies, the doctor could potentially be sued for malpractice BC there is something that could of been done to save the mother's life.
It screams political posturing. There is no real good effect or benefit to anyone it seems with this law. It doesn’t even make sense from a medical or legal stand point.
Which means the POINT of the ban is not to save lives (unborn or carrying). It's meant to control people with uteruses and push a religious agenda (and I say that as a pro-choice Christian myself).
Exactly. No one can possibly know for sure whether or not the mother will die until it does or does not happen. Like... What? 🤦🏻♀️
And that I where the fear come into play for doctors. Fear of continuing practice based on beliefs since it won't affect those doctors that do not do abortion.
@@syrefayne8922 I gotta be honest. I don’t think it’s coming from a moral belief. It’s to manipulate and earn the vote of religious people who haven’t confronted the complexity of this issue. I’m a Christian who believes abortion is morally wrong of and when it can be avoided but so not believe in legislating my moral beliefs and holding others accountable to them.
I don’t think that the lawmakers behind this are trying to stand on some moral high ground or do so for the sake of their religious beliefs. I genuinely believe it’s just to pull pro-life votes.
I was raped and conceived almost 15 years ago. Abortion was considered but I decided to continue the pregnancy and have been blessed with an amazing son. The key though was it was my CHOICE. Would I feel differently if I had been told that abortion was not even an option and I had to continue the pregnancy? I can't say how I would have felt. I can say I completely understand considering abortion and every woman should have that choice.
@@mikeharrison9078 very much. My son is a wonderful blessing. I am proud to be his mom. :)
I appreciate your view on this and how you I'm assuming feel on that choice. My mom just used it against me that my bio dad told her to abort me and she kept me instead, and used that as her argument against abortion just because nothing was wrong with me and she wasn't forced to do anything
I hate that Pro-life supporters talk about people having abortions as if they get up in the morning one day like yup this is a great day to abort my baby, then they go celebrate after & get pregnant again the next month so they can purposely have another abortion. It is not like that at all. Women who have abortions have hearts that ache before and after ... even if they feel a relief when it is over they still feel that guilt, they will always wonder about what could've been, etc. No one wants to walk into an abortion clinic, especially with a crowd of people protesting outside and go through such a thing. It's heartbreaking & humiliating. My husband and my cousin were given up for adoption. If you think that everyone who was given up for adoption ends up just being happy they were born, you're sadly mistaken. My husband is 50yrs old and still has never worked through and come to terms with the fact that he was adopted (and he met his biological parents when he was 19yrs old, knows the whole story as to why he was given up for adoption & kept in contact with them). If the child doesn't have adoptive parents who know how to support them as they explore what adoption means, help them navigate their feelings about being adopted, help them develop coping skills and get them whatever extra outside support, then it can be traumatizing. Guess what... not everyone ends up with Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, Sandra Bullock, etc. as their mother. Some end up being adopted by really screwed up people who don't have a clue about how to handle it and are just not psychologically minded... so u end up with an adult that not only had to get through a tough childhood like many people have to with their biological parents but then have to process being adopted ...that these aren't my parents, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles, my grandparents. It would've been nice for someone to have at least told my husband families can be chosen or you are super special to us because we chose you to be with us. We saw you and fell in love! But, nope!
The morality of abortion is personal. I may be against many reasons for abortion, but getting rid of all options like this is just stupid. This law is so much worse than I thought it was going to be. I really hope that it gets repealed before someone dies.
100%!!
Thank you for appreciating that this issue needs sensitivity and nuance
Could not agree more with you ❤️ it’s a very complicated and complex issue that is now made even tougher 😱😱😭😭
Luckily Texas is getting sued for this law so let's see how it works
Agreed - there is a difference between "morally wrong" and "illegal". One could make a decent case that strip clubs and casinos may be "morally wrong" but they are still legal. Smoking is bad for you but it's still legal. I've not heard any pro-choice folks trying to assert that abortion is "morally awesome", I think everyone knows that it's not, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the government's job to enforce that
Admittedly, I have always considered myself pro-life. However, I never truly took into account all the other sides to abortion. Namely, the mother and how having an unwanted pregnancy would affect her life. And although I still have reservations, I’ve become more and more compassionate towards women who choose to do so. It’s tough, and it’s not so black and white. And that’s why I have changed my opinion over the years.
You are absolutely allowed to be pro-life for yourself and still support the option for others to choose for themselves. Kudos to you. Get vocal, stand strong in your change. 💜
Thank you for this humble comment. Was good to read this.
Blessings to you.
There is grace in being able to change your mind. And it is okay to do so. I myself would not choose abortion for myself and if I can avoid it, I will. But if it were for someone else’s sake, be it another woman, my baby, or someone else’s baby, that would be different because at that point, their wellbeing is paramount. So thank you for sharing your perspective; it is very valid.
@@cjlouise8250 no you can't that literally makes no sense, there are only two options that are polar opposites
Your body, your choice. Someone else’s body, THEIR CHOICE ✌🏻 And you’re right, it’s rarely black and white…. I think it’s inhumane to expect a victim of rape to be expected to birth and raise a child that they did not have any choice in (I’m 110% pro choice).
I've commented in your channel before.... I found out I was pregnant at 20 weeks!!!!! I don't believe in abortion, but that's my choice over MY body (I was informed that I had a choice that far along). Met someone who kept her baby (she was raped), again HER choice. I do worry about women's health, mental health, etc. as well as the unwanted child who will grow up (emotionally messed up) and the future of our people (who will have to live with those unwanted angry people).
I cannot begin to express how happy it made me feel when at 31:45 (ish) MDJ points out in no uncertain language exactly how despicable this law is. Having someone publicly denounce this law as classist, ableist, and racist is extremely powerful. As a disabled person, I deeply appreciate you considering that we also need abortion access.
There is a book called You’re The Only One I’ve told: Stories Behind Abortion. Some of these people so badly wanted their babies but had to make the choice to terminate their pregnancies because the baby would live a short life of agony if born or their own life was in danger. Others were not ready to have a child or had gotten out of abusive relationships, later discovered they were pregnant, and did not want to be permanently tied down to their abusive partner. Some were assaulted and didn’t want a product of that pain and trauma in the world. Abortion doesn’t just have one face. Thank you for making this video and informing so many people ♥️.
This Common Secret is really good too
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I LOVE what you have just said!
Truth.
Its heartbreaking, but it's a reality. I've been listening to those stories lately. The circumstances under which people get them.
@PeriodicalAdventures That's entirely your choice and perogative. Nobody would have forced you to have an abortion because you were raped under the previous law anyway. But the fact remains not every woman feels the way you do and not every woman wants to carry a child born of rape, it's all down to individual choice, and they should have as much right to choose otherwise as you have to choose to keep the child. Texas is making it so that women in that situation no longer get to choose.
@PeriodicalAdventures first off, I’m so sorry you had to go through that. Second, I did not mean to imply that all victims/survivors of rape that get pregnant automatically don’t want their baby. The women in the cases I was speaking about did not want to have those babies because they felt that it would add onto their trauma.
I was assaulted at a very young age and unfortunately became pregnant. At the time, I lived in Wyoming, which is very similar to Texas. I think there's only 3, maybe 4 clinics that preform abortions in the entire state. The closest clinic was out of state, which i wouldn't have access to. Otherwise I'd have to travel 7 hrs to get to a clinic, but that wasn't feasible. My only two options were: have a baby before I turned 13 or have a dangerous at home abortion. I personally know what these women in Texas are going through and its incredibly traumatic. (Just for clarification, I was 12 when I was assaulted, didn't get my period until three months after the termination so I had no idea what was going on). There's a lot more to all this info, but there's a character limit 😑
Damn girl, what happened? (If you want to say) at home nightmare? An entire baby? What happened after that? Obviously you lived, but omfg are you okay??????
@@Whit-wy2ow i had i guess what you could call an at home abortion. I tried to overdose on ibuprofen without actually getting too hurt. That didn't work. So I went the more... violent side. It wasn't pretty and extremely painful. I'm not sure how I survived everything I put myself through.
Essentially, instead of getting a procedure that would take a few days to heal from, my healing time was 4 months. I highly don't recommend it, but when you absolutely have to.... it's traumatizing
@@Whit-wy2ow I was only a few months pregnant, I don't know exactly how long. There was no way the fetus would survive if born that prematurely.
@@ajvilla555 what a ride. Thank you so much for sharing! I'm glad that you are all right now and found a way to heal
@@Whit-wy2ow I appreciate that! I just hope that other little girls don't have to go through the same...
As a Texan, as well, I am so frustrated by this law and by the attitudes that perpetuate these ideas. A friend of a friend recently relayed her experience with carrying a baby originally identified as a cornual ectopic pregnancy to term as something that will be a triumph of SB 8, actually hurrahing the fact that abortion or emergency surgery was never discussed with her. While I'm elated that everything worked out well for her and her family, and I'm certain that she would have made the same decision (and should have had every right to), I'm horrified that this is the state of women's reproductive healthcare in Texas.
I can honestly say at one point in my life I was PRO LIFE, years later I find myself PRO CHOICE, and I hate the fact that the government get to dictate what I can do with my body. Thank you for sharing how your perspective has changed to neutral. I am glad there are doctors like you still out there.
Not your body.
I was just past 19 weeks pregnant with my first child when we received the devastating diagnosis of anencephaly. My decision, ultimately, was to end the pregnancy because I felt like I was essentially just "life support" for my terminally ill child. As heartbreaking as it was...it would have been worse to be told I had no choice but to wait for "nature to take its course".
I'm so sorry you had to experience that
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm so sorry you went through that. ❤️
So sorry for your loss.
Thanks for sharing
I am so sorry for your loss.
Put the burden on men and this plays out VERY differently. Eggs don’t just fertilize themselves.
They already do, its called child support, jail and bad credit.
THABK YOU. Let's make it mandatory for all single men or men in a relationship where the couple don't want kids to have vasectomies.
@@alanak4291 why would you want to make something like that mandatory in someone’s life? If a man doesn’t want kids then they should protect them selfs and same with woman who don’t want kids.
@@heyyou9313 That's the point being made. If men have autonomy over their bodies/reproductive rights and the idea of intruding on that (see: vasectomies) is absurd, then so is the idea of forcing woman to give up their bodily autonomy.
@@cleodello but a vasectomy is to prevent getting someone pregnant. Abortions should not be used as a form of birth control and the baby is already there, very different situations
I love that you did this video! I'm in Florida & we're rapidly approaching where Texas currently is. It is an extremely scary time to be a woman.
My 1st pregnancy resulted in a still birth at 27 weeks. We later found out that that this was due to a genetic chromosome issue that is non-compatible with life & it would effect 1 in 3 pregnancies. Because of this, I had to have CVS testing done at 6 to 8 weeks of each of my other 2 pregnancies. Fortunately everything came back normal but had it not, having an abortion would have been one of the best options for my situation. To think that this option can be taken away from another mother, already going through one of the worst situations imaginable, makes me angry.
I just sent this video to my 16 yr old son so he could hear what you had to say. I have never been able to justify late term elective abortions and was somewhat happy with new restrictions but you have done an amazing job explaining this law and all it’s flaws. It was nice to hear a educated, clear, alternate view of abortions and the new law. Thank you❤️
This gives me hope for the future.... so many politicians have misled people into believing that its a common occurrence and its the reason for these changes in laws, however Roe v. Wade limited any abortion after fetal viability, usually around 24 weeks, to only those who need it for a serious medical reason. per the data:
Abortions occurring at or after 21 weeks gestation are rare. According to the CDC’s Abortion Surveillance Data, the vast majority of abortions (91%) occur at or before 13 weeks gestation, while 7.7% occur from weeks 14 to 20 gestation, and just 1.2% of abortions are performed at or after 21 weeks (Figure 1). This amounts to approximately 5,200 abortions per year occurring at or after 21 weeks, however this is an underestimate as only 33 reporting areas report abortions to the CDC by gestational age. The percentage of abortions occurring at or before 13 weeks gestation has remained stable over the last few decades at 91-92%, however within this timeframe, more abortions are occurring earlier in pregnancy, at or before 8 weeks. This is likely in part due to the greater availability of medication abortions over the last two decades.
The depressing reality is that this war against abortion has made lives worse for women, children and families around the United States, and I'm sharing this with the hope people will contact their state and federal officials to ensure that science and compassion prevails in the US.
Late stage elective abortions is not a thing. It’s not elective if the mother is going to die, or the fetus is not viable is the only time an abortion would happen in late stage. Do research with real medical information. Not made up talking points from misinformation.
@@caracrabtree715 actually, there's still seven states that allow elective late-term abortions, meaning that after 28 weeks, you can still get an abortion if you just don't want the baby. However, in the case of elective abortions, most women don't wait that long, so if that's why you're saying it's "not a thing", I totally understand.
While I don't agree with late-term elective abortions, (or really abortion at all) I'd never try to take the option away from a woman.
Aren't late term abortions generally less than 1% of abortions and not elective? (Don't know official % rn) They're done with a severe threat to the mothers life or a clearly unviable fetus with a major issue such as not having a brain, ect, ect. Issues like that would mean that baby was never going to live, and if left alone could potentially harm the mother which is why they are rare, yet done in these special circumstances.
You said, “doctors don’t know if what they did was okay until a legal team steps in and said it was fine”
That really hit home for me. Absolutely ridiculous. They are NOT DOCTORS.
And a as a lawyer, this terrifies me. Lawyers SHOULD NOT BE making medical decisions
@@abbyr6172 There shouldn't be any need for "exceptions" to the law. It's an abusive law that takes autonomy from women and just puts more people at risk. Having to shoulder the burden of proof that there were health reasons is traumatic, especially if those health reasons are sudden and the person is grieving the loss. Add to that someone just not wanting to have children and being forced to carry to term by a law that doesn't consider the damages to psychological health or lack of financial resources to survive.
@@abbyr6172 But as is discussed in this very video, it can be incredibly murky to determine when the health issue can be considered "severe enough" to allow for abortion under this law.
@@abbyr6172 unfortunately it’s not true that “any” health issue warrants an abortion. In fact, the point of laws like this is to limit as much as possible which medical conditions allow for an abortion. Otherwise, no one would even care about a law like this. The entire purpose of the law is to make abortions as difficult as possible to obtain.
This should be the war cry. "THEY'RE NOT DOCTORS!!"
I love how in Ireland it took ONE woman dying to change the law. Here in Texas, hundreds or thousands will probably die and it probably still won't change.
Not to burst your bubble, but she was not the only one that died. She just became a very prominent case. But I agree on your thoughts about Texas. The fundies will probably claim that it is god's will...
Unfortunately she was just the catalyst. There was A LOT that came before, and a huge amount of work and campaigning that took place after she died. There was more than 5 years of solid campaigns before the law was changed. But her case affected the country deeply, and she will be remembered for a long time to come.
Texas is ranked 53/50 (2 territories with no rights have better measures in place) in how well their law enforcement handles abuse and rape allegations. Its been a massive issue for decades and yet nothing has ever been done. In my opinion, i dont think the texas gov is going to change anything even with so many women and children dying. Not unless someone big and powerful starts making ripples
"I will turn off the comments if people are being angry"
*checks comments*
*still there*
*sigh of relief*
I'm beyond pregnancy age, but this law scares me for all the women who aren't and even for me because it's another step in control of women and their bodies. This is just by proxy and through fear.
Blah blah blah. Not everything is about women all the time. Abortion deeply affects men/fathers and children and the babies in the womb. Nobody cares about her spleen or her appendix. Its not about her body. Its the tiny body inside her that does not belong to her.
I’m pro-abortion just like I’m pro-chemotherapy or pro-open heart surgery. I’d rather never have to do it, but if I am in a situation where it is necessary, I would like to be able to make that choice.
Best comment!
That's something that people aren't bothering to talk about. I'm against abortion for *unnecessary* reasons. There's no reason you can't wear a condom or take birth control, or other tools to prevent pregnancy. Rape, incest and medical reasons are perfectly viable reasons for abortions. I'm talking about people who fuck around willy nilly, find out they're pregnant. Then they get an abortion, only to have it happen again because of their lack of preventative care before the deed.
@@BrokensoulRider Yeah but it’s also not really our place to decide what’s necessary and whats not, is it? And plus- all birth control has failure rates which we gotta consider, ya know?
@@BrokensoulRider - do you think someone should be denied a replacement pair of glasses because they got lost or broken? Do you think people shouldn't get a refill on their heart meds that are misplaced? Do you think a child should never be allowed a re-do on an assignment they forgot to turn in? Should a smoker be given chemo for their lung cancer? Are you allowed to visit a dermatologist if you've ever gone sun bathing, used a tanning bed, or forgot sunscreen?
@@BrokensoulRider not everyone can take birth control. Idk how it works in the US, but where I live it's expensive and hard to get if you are under 18 ?
(But still above age of consent). As for condoms, you could either be allergic, or the guy can say he used one when in reality, he didn't. Happend to a friend of mine, thankfully, she didn't get pregnant.
Imagine you're pregnant with a very much wanted baby - and then something happens, you seek medical help, your doctor tells you your life is in danger, but you aren't close enough to dead yet to help you in any way. You lay there knowing that your doctor might let you die out of fear of being sued. WTF
In the event I survived, I would demand to never have to interact with that doctor again, and do everything in my power to move to a different state as soon as possible
I agree that's a very messed up predicament to be in but it's also an unfair situation to the doctor though.
Try being pregnant with a much wanted child and discovering something went horribly wrong and if you continue the pregnancy your child will die a horribly painful death within days or weeks.
@@jenniferjamison4912 we're not talking about could here or about ambiguous situations where a baby may survive. We're talking about cases where an unborn child has no lungs, a massive, unrepairable hole in their heart, untreatable and 100% fatal genetic disease. These children most often die the day of or very shortly after birth, and until then a parent has to watch their child suffer and the child has to suffer. These scenarios do occur and often the severe level of catastrophic malformation is not visible until late in a pregnancy. Many families choose to end their pregnancy and have an abortion rather than give birth to a child that will be born to suffer and shortly thereafter die. This is entirely different than killing an already living child because of their disease; a living person has positive memories of being alive and is having something taken away from them. A child who was never born is not having anything stolen and in cases of infants who are truly incompatible with life and who medicine cannot help at least right now, it is in the opinion of many an ethical choice and mercy, and less traumatic to mother and baby both as well as the other parent. These are always wanted pregnancies.
While I respect anyone who disagrees, please remember not to speak for those in a group/identity you do not belong to. I have an incurable, untreatable genetic disease. It is dominant in inheritence; any pregnancy I have is a 50% chance to have my disease. Not all of us agree on abortion in disabling and painful diseases but not imminently fatal ones, but it's very rare for someone with experience in this to not want families to have the right to end a pregnancy when their child is going to suffer and die. For me, I wouldn't want to stop living because I have already been alive, have love in my life, even though there is an extreme amount of suffering and difficulty as well. This difficult is both inherently from my disease, and because the USA does not guarantee medical care for children born with genetic disease, either, so we often suffer due to being disabled and need help that costs too much. So, no, I wouldn't want to die now - but that's because I have a lot to lose, now. An unborn child I might have (though I do as much as I can to prevent pregnancy) would not be losing things they love in life, because they haven't live, and they wouldn't have to suffer like many of us with genetic disease due, inherently but especially because of the lack of support in the USA if you or your child is chronically ill or disabled with a progressive or painful condition.
@@jenniferjamison4912 the problem wasn't that you wouldn't make that choice. the problem was that you compared it to killing a living child and pretty much shamed people who would make a different decision than you would.
My great-grandmother died from complications of HG (& baby was lost). Her daughter my grandmother was afraid she would die each time she became pregnant. Some of my cousins also have suffered from HG. It's not uncommon and while it can be treated, it could still become life-threatening.
Hello there Susan nice meeting you here
this is an old comment but I just wanna say my great grandmother also had HG, and the doctor decided to perform an abortion because her life was at risk. This was in the 1930s, so there wasn’t treatment for HG like there is now, and the doctor knew she would die if the pregnancy wasn’t terminated. This was also in Alabama. I just thank god for the fact that that doctor did his job properly, even back then and in a southern state, because if he hadn’t, I never would have been born. After the termination of that pregnancy, my great grandmother had a successful pregnancy and gave birth to my grandmother. Abortion saves lives, and allows more lives to be born. People don’t talk about that enough.
Ughh. I’m watching this again because of the Supreme Court’s abortion draft that got leaked. I’m not looking forward to the future.