I'm curious about how effective they are. I mean, real life protests are disruptive right? How disruptive can a protest in a game be when developers can just pull the plug
I could give another reason for why gamers aren't big fans of inserting political activism in game. The argument against it is structurally the same as the argument in favour of privacy. Like you described in the video a lot of others looking to implement their activism in game will do so under the belief that " personal is political". The thought that every thought and action reflect social realities that are of political nature and that any piece of media or literature meant to inform should henceforth reflect real life politics that too of only a certain kind. It also implies every moment should be spent in some form or another of political activism and not doing so is nothing less of an attack on the movement I disagree with the sentiment on the basis that each and every is a result of innumerable intersections from every immutable characteristic and choice they make such that each person's actions and beliefs can't be boiled down to a single group reasoning. We could hold the same beliefs for completely different reasons. I say the argument against political activism in games is an argument in favour of privacy because each individual is entitled to time and thought space dedicated completely to themselves given that their collective group can't possibly reflect each aspect of them. I don't owe every aspect of myself to a cause. For example, I'd describe my politics as libertarianism but my group of friends are primarily left leaning. Just because my politics differ from their, there is no need for me to be awful to them. My beliefs can exist separately from my private life. All in all, people who game deserve a time to themselves away from real life conflicts without being shamed for not putting every second of their time in activism. Also people who say that all games have political stories don't know what they're saying. Games such as Bioshock aren't political in the sense that they are full of slogans against a certain movement but they offer a philosophical argument.
Nicely drawn parallels between in-game politics and the concept of privacy. I get where you're coming from about keeping politics out of games. It's like everyone's got their own reasons for what they believe so lumping everyone under one big political banner in games doesn't always make sense.You're spot on saying gaming should be a break from all the serious stuff. Sometimes, you just wanna escape into a game without all that real-world drama. And about games like Bioshock, they're not pushing slogans or anything. They make you think, sure, but they're not telling you what to think. That's the cool part. Love your thinking.
Now there's one thing to keep a note of, there's a difference between Politics for a Self Contained Narrative Story and Lore, and an Obvious On-the-Nose Message or Statement a Developer want's to force their own political point for people to see.
y tho, its a video game. If your that heated about a topic, do something irl to prove you actually care. Besides, most of the time these 'protesters' are kids, who know nothing about anything and instead just jump on the band wagon because its popular. Also (this is like the 3rd edit I made to this comment lol), I just don't think we should mix video games with politics. Because once you do that, you get a two-way divided fanbase making the entire community just filled with hate and negativity. Inserting politics will just make everything worse in my opinion.
I didn't realize this was a trend. Over the summer there was a protest going on about companies using pride as a marketing tool on FFXIV and I thought for sure this was a one off thing. Glad to know it's a trend, I can laugh at it in the comfort of my own home now!
Activism and protests do not work when they are zoned off from the main spaces everybody uses. That only further silences the voices of people calling for change. A private protest changes nothing, brings no attention. What is the purpose of activism if not to spread a message? No offense to you, I know you're trying to be helpful but this is such an antithesis to social change.
Honestly I don't like it being exposed to children on child friendly games me and my team banned protesting on our roblox games cause the whole protesting is being exposed to children on our PLATFORM!?
I didn’t know this was a huge thing. Also didn’t realise that you were a small creator. Since it was really high standard video. I subscribed and liked the video and best wishes on growing bigger.
@@raburner3717 Politics is not a dirty word. "Politics (from Ancient Greek πολιτικά (politiká) 'affairs of the cities') is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals." Human rights is entirely political, it became an integral part of politics. And a good thing we have made it so in the modern age. You wouldn't have liked to live when it wasn't.
Your channel only started 4 months ago, but your production quality is incredible. I remember when the Minecraft Uncensored Library was released, and even aside from its message, the construction itself was beautiful. Some future video ideas: the trend of gaming records being beat by kids (recently Tetris, Fortnite, and Chess!), or perhaps a timeline of EULA's effect on pay-to-win in gaming
"Neutral". Almost all of the issues mentioned were leftist issues. Except Hongkong and Eve. Are conservatives even allowed to have the same presence in those games, or is it one party totalitarian ride for you? Biased reporting.
I changed my in-game name to "tax evasion (on genocide)" The name conveyed that I was committing a crime (tax evasion), but the twist was that it was for a good cause (not financing genocide) thus, sending the message that our tax money is funding a f*cking genocide. While the message was genius, the receivers certainly weren't. Players thought I was tax evading AND committing genocide... ? :DD To combat that, I installed a pro-Palestinian song; "My Blood Is Palestinian" and I started playing it around. Given the presence of proxy chat and the fact that it was very common for players to blast music in that game, I thought there was no chance they'd miss my message now... right? Players accused me of being racist and making fun of Arab people... I am literally Arab myself... and there was a fellow Arab player who I made sure to play the song around every time I saw him in-game, to send him the message that I am Arab too, but he kept running away from me and saying "you don't understand a single word of that song..." ;-;
Keep real life activism & politics out of games! I play games to escape reality for a few hours and i want it that way! The only politics & activism i want is the type that has to do with the game's story.
that's just sad... go into a virtual world to escape and have fun and then to ruin it by bringing in your ideological views. smh. People should read Aurelius, Epictetus, Seneca and the other stoics.
@@BelindaErcan i recon people are just too emotional and not logical enough hence all the protests. maybe high schools should swap out civics for logic/logical fallacies, ethics and stoicism.
I disagree, protests are logical in their effectiveness of raising awareness and bringing rise to change, to some extent. Also, humans are emotional creatures, there is no reason that politics should be *completely* separate from emotions. In fact, many policies *can* be measured overall in their effect on emotions, or the general happiness and comfort of the population, happiness is not always but on an average scale a metric which can be used to determine the effectiveness of policies, social and economical.
@@hardleecure In the past months the Overton window on Israel has changed specifically because of protests and people making their voice heard, most recently the US abstaining from a vote declaring a ceasefire that they previously not only voted no on but vetoed altogether, in addition the UK moved from “No” to “Yes” because people have made it abundantly clear it’s a politically unpopular opinion and demand for change is asked. In addition let’s look at the history of protests - How’s civil rights? How’s pride and the rights of LGBT+ individuals? How’s the fact POC are no longer required to give their seat up for white people? How’s the apartheid in South Africa? How’s the early ending of the Vietnam War, all the soldiers alive today in part because of it, the voting age at 18. How are they doing?
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I'm curious about how effective they are. I mean, real life protests are disruptive right? How disruptive can a protest in a game be when developers can just pull the plug
I could give another reason for why gamers aren't big fans of inserting political activism in game. The argument against it is structurally the same as the argument in favour of privacy.
Like you described in the video a lot of others looking to implement their activism in game will do so under the belief that " personal is political". The thought that every thought and action reflect social realities that are of political nature and that any piece of media or literature meant to inform should henceforth reflect real life politics that too of only a certain kind. It also implies every moment should be spent in some form or another of political activism and not doing so is nothing less of an attack on the movement
I disagree with the sentiment on the basis that each and every is a result of innumerable intersections from every immutable characteristic and choice they make such that each person's actions and beliefs can't be boiled down to a single group reasoning. We could hold the same beliefs for completely different reasons.
I say the argument against political activism in games is an argument in favour of privacy because each individual is entitled to time and thought space dedicated completely to themselves given that their collective group can't possibly reflect each aspect of them. I don't owe every aspect of myself to a cause. For example, I'd describe my politics as libertarianism but my group of friends are primarily left leaning. Just because my politics differ from their, there is no need for me to be awful to them. My beliefs can exist separately from my private life.
All in all, people who game deserve a time to themselves away from real life conflicts without being shamed for not putting every second of their time in activism.
Also people who say that all games have political stories don't know what they're saying. Games such as Bioshock aren't political in the sense that they are full of slogans against a certain movement but they offer a philosophical argument.
Nicely drawn parallels between in-game politics and the concept of privacy. I get where you're coming from about keeping politics out of games. It's like everyone's got their own reasons for what they believe so lumping everyone under one big political banner in games doesn't always make sense.You're spot on saying gaming should be a break from all the serious stuff. Sometimes, you just wanna escape into a game without all that real-world drama. And about games like Bioshock, they're not pushing slogans or anything. They make you think, sure, but they're not telling you what to think. That's the cool part.
Love your thinking.
Hey thanks. I hope your channel grows, you were very well researched and your writing was tight.@@BelindaErcan Cheers!
Now there's one thing to keep a note of, there's a difference between Politics for a Self Contained Narrative Story and Lore, and an Obvious On-the-Nose Message or Statement a Developer want's to force their own political point for people to see.
Very true. Thanks for the additional thought!
Your channel deserves way more viewership 👏🏽
Let people protest.
y tho, its a video game. If your that heated about a topic, do something irl to prove you actually care.
Besides, most of the time these 'protesters' are kids, who know nothing about anything and instead just jump on the band wagon because its popular.
Also (this is like the 3rd edit I made to this comment lol), I just don't think we should mix video games with politics. Because once you do that, you get a two-way divided fanbase making the entire community just filled with hate and negativity. Inserting politics will just make everything worse in my opinion.
@@itzsapphire5524people can do what they want in games and if other people don’t like it there are other servers. A lot of games are political too
This is another example to me of slackivism where you jump on a band wagon thats popular without doing research to form your own opinion.
I didn't realize this was a trend. Over the summer there was a protest going on about companies using pride as a marketing tool on FFXIV and I thought for sure this was a one off thing. Glad to know it's a trend, I can laugh at it in the comfort of my own home now!
It's all because of ESG
Didnt knew that people took protests to video games. I mean except the one from Fortnite. Huh.. i wonder how this will develop in the future
China banning animal crossing is wild
Maybe the game devs can create a server / zone / room for activist stuff. It's good for both their server traffic and the irl road traffic
Good one!
Activism and protests do not work when they are zoned off from the main spaces everybody uses. That only further silences the voices of people calling for change. A private protest changes nothing, brings no attention. What is the purpose of activism if not to spread a message? No offense to you, I know you're trying to be helpful but this is such an antithesis to social change.
Honestly I don't like it being exposed to children on child friendly games me and my team banned protesting on our roblox games cause the whole protesting is being exposed to children on our PLATFORM!?
you deserve so many more subs oh my god your content is AMAZING keep up the good work!
Thank you ☺️
You explained it really well. Great content. Thank you for throwing light on this topic
I didn’t know this was a huge thing. Also didn’t realise that you were a small creator. Since it was really high standard video. I subscribed and liked the video and best wishes on growing bigger.
Thanks so much cool cat :)
Why do politics gotta be in everything I just want to have fun.
Human rights are not politics lol, they are social issues
@@raburner3717 Social issues are political
@@zwilder1Declaring entire groups of people political is BS.
Try again.
@@raburner3717 Politics is not a dirty word.
"Politics (from Ancient Greek πολιτικά (politiká) 'affairs of the cities') is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals."
Human rights is entirely political, it became an integral part of politics. And a good thing we have made it so in the modern age. You wouldn't have liked to live when it wasn't.
because it is more fun to talk about than games
Your channel only started 4 months ago, but your production quality is incredible. I remember when the Minecraft Uncensored Library was released, and even aside from its message, the construction itself was beautiful.
Some future video ideas: the trend of gaming records being beat by kids (recently Tetris, Fortnite, and Chess!), or perhaps a timeline of EULA's effect on pay-to-win in gaming
Very interesting suggestions 🙏
Appreciating the neutral approach focusing on fact.
"Neutral". Almost all of the issues mentioned were leftist issues. Except Hongkong and Eve.
Are conservatives even allowed to have the same presence in those games, or is it one party totalitarian ride for you?
Biased reporting.
roblox doesnt count
Yuh uh
nuh uh
roblox is more like a cancer
do you think cancer is a game?
@@tylerfortniteninjablevins1457 lil bro, rovloz da top g and fortnite is bottom l
@@tylerfortniteninjablevins1457 That Dragon Cancer is a game about cancer
@@NojoNortu this doesnt even mean anything
What is thus for a comeback
Are you 5?
I changed my in-game name to "tax evasion (on genocide)"
The name conveyed that I was committing a crime (tax evasion), but the twist was that it was for a good cause (not financing genocide) thus, sending the message that our tax money is funding a f*cking genocide.
While the message was genius, the receivers certainly weren't.
Players thought I was tax evading AND committing genocide... ? :DD
To combat that, I installed a pro-Palestinian song; "My Blood Is Palestinian" and I started playing it around. Given the presence of proxy chat and the fact that it was very common for players to blast music in that game, I thought there was no chance they'd miss my message now... right?
Players accused me of being racist and making fun of Arab people... I am literally Arab myself... and there was a fellow Arab player who I made sure to play the song around every time I saw him in-game, to send him the message that I am Arab too, but he kept running away from me and saying "you don't understand a single word of that song..." ;-;
"tax evasion (on genocide)" is actually genius. Maybe it was too smart of a name for many not-so-smart people :)
It isnt a genocide tho. Call it whatever you want, but try to stay with the facts
@@paulvrl3263
"Call it whatever you want"
Ok, I call it genocide :)
Free Palestine
🙏🙏
Yes, Free Palestine, Ukraine, Philippines, Sudan, Venuzuela, India, South Korea, etc. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@JoshuaAlto thanks brother for remembering our vulnerable brothers and sisters
May Allah be with them and revenge from the bad people
This was a good, informative video, subscribed!
This is such a good video, the channel definitely deserves WAY more subscribers considering the amount of quality in these videos.
Thank you very much 🙇🏻♀️🙏 appreciate it.
I THOUGHT U HAD 265K SUBS OMG
4:00 I've been an active player since 2014, since "protest" for Ukraine and other LGBTQ+ stuff I have quit.
Keep real life activism & politics out of games! I play games to escape reality for a few hours and i want it that way! The only politics & activism i want is the type that has to do with the game's story.
that's just sad... go into a virtual world to escape and have fun and then to ruin it by bringing in your ideological views. smh. People should read Aurelius, Epictetus, Seneca and the other stoics.
Uhhh love the stoic flavour you’re bringing in :)
*looks at her Aurelius Mediations book that she still needs to read
@@BelindaErcan i recon people are just too emotional and not logical enough hence all the protests. maybe high schools should swap out civics for logic/logical fallacies, ethics and stoicism.
I disagree, protests are logical in their effectiveness of raising awareness and bringing rise to change, to some extent. Also, humans are emotional creatures, there is no reason that politics should be *completely* separate from emotions.
In fact, many policies *can* be measured overall in their effect on emotions, or the general happiness and comfort of the population, happiness is not always but on an average scale a metric which can be used to determine the effectiveness of policies, social and economical.
@@Wavezzzz601 How's San Fransisco's order for a ceasefire in Gaza working?
@@hardleecure In the past months the Overton window on Israel has changed specifically because of protests and people making their voice heard, most recently the US abstaining from a vote declaring a ceasefire that they previously not only voted no on but vetoed altogether, in addition the UK moved from “No” to “Yes” because people have made it abundantly clear it’s a politically unpopular opinion and demand for change is asked.
In addition let’s look at the history of protests - How’s civil rights? How’s pride and the rights of LGBT+ individuals? How’s the fact POC are no longer required to give their seat up for white people? How’s the apartheid in South Africa? How’s the early ending of the Vietnam War, all the soldiers alive today in part because of it, the voting age at 18.
How are they doing?
>Woman having a valid argument
Great Content! Keep making more of these
Can you comment on fortnight protests? They were suspiciously missing in your video
Fortnite is mentioned briefly 3:40
Commenting for the algorithim. Beep boop bop beep boop bop
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BRO WTF
kids shouldnt indulde in politics also this will be interesting to watch as it develops
No they aren't.
Mic drop at the end with the Shigeru Miyamoto quote