ISE Regulator Double Configuration
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- Our new series of "ISE´s How To" Videos starts with "How to set up a Double-Tank Regulator Set".
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Great video! Really good to see it step by step, and down in detail and small tips. Thanks!
Another absolute brilliant video. Thanks for your efforts!
Nice presentation/lesson. Thanks.
Excellent video, and thanks very much.
Nice video, thanks !
This video is helpful to me. Thank you.
grazie mille per la spiegazione...thanks for the explanation, simple and professional
gianluigi melis thanks a lot, that was our intention
very good video.
This is a fabulous video. Thank you.
One question I have: what kind of grease are you using?
Many thanks.
u r amazing man
Very nice.
Thanks very nice video... Question: can we use same reg configuration on H or Y-valve (single tank)?
nice video , just wondering where you would place the hose for you're drysuit ?
Great video. Thank you for sharing your expertise. What kind of rope do you use to attach bolt snaps to reg/spg?
Hello Sir, I noticed the doubles wing you are using is the X-Tek 40 which I have been looking at. I have an X-Tek single setup system but would like to convert to twinsets. My question, I notice ScubaPro sells a 60 lb version as well, but with my steel LP85 tanks, even if I had another tank clipped on, I can't figure why really anyone would need such a large lift. I typically dive in a 3mm or 5mm wetsuit in fresh water and with a single steel tank, I rarely need any added weight. Thanks for the video! It was very informative!
Thoughts on the rubber boots on the SPG lines? any reason not to remove? really enjoy the no nonsense way to rig stuff.
I have two Scubapro MK17’s, what is the best way to route hoses from them?
This looks a lot like a sidemount set-up. Is there a possibility to create a setup that will work with both? (double and SM)
Thanks for all the great videos!
how thick is your bungee for backup reg neck?
where would you put the hose if you would use your dubble tanks to fill the suit ? i dont use a spesific suit tank yet.
I’m setting up a new twin set with mk19 first stages. Do you recommend the miflex hoses over the rubber ? Will have drysuit hose mounted as well . Thanks again have learned so much from your videos 🙏🏻🇨🇦
If possible, could you make a video of how to set up a dry suit tank?
what brand hoses are you using?
Hi Peter,
Great video!!! How low is that primary hose that wraps your neck?
7ft / 210cm
Question about flex hoses. I've read that flex hoses can kink so much to restrict airflow. Only situation I can imagine this occuring in diving is once already donated long hose and buddy ascends v high (in a non-turret first stage). This is a slim chance, but I would value your opinion on this "risk", and whether you think this makes a rubber hose better maybe for the regulator hoses?
Hi some great videos . In this one and the single setup you don't use a breakaway on the primary regulator bolt snap. It there any reason for this? By looking at other videos it seemed like by using an o-ring between the hose and bolt snap someone out of air can remove the first stage when it's clipped off, just by giving it a pull to break the o-ring. What are your thoughts?
HI Ian, we do not recommend breakaway clips as they tent to break when you dont want them to :-) the probem is the O-RIngs that get brittle when exposed to UV light. as you donate what you breath, the problem is basically not existing - and if you really have to donate - or someone need to go on your clipped longhose you will notice that we have the boltsnap attached roughly a hand from the second stage. this way you can breat it while clipped in case you have to and someone else can also grab it. Give it a try works great.
I've watched all your videos and can now see the reasons why things are done in certain ways. Many thanks for your help. I now have a good single and twin setup :-)
Hi Achim,
The bungee cord diameter please?
What do you use a 7ft primary hose?
Nice video. Will certainly keep it in mind when I'll buy my first set of completely new regulators.
Question one: you dive with a twin-set. And only one presure gage. A specific reason?
Second question: you don't dive with a dry suit? Since you only use an inflator hose for your wing?
Hi Christiaan, thanks. staYes, we use only one SPG on the left side as it shows the preassure in both tanks (isolater is always open) in case you shut off (Gasloss that you cant stop) it indicates where the loss is (right side it stays still, ledt it drops) Also in case of roll off in a cave it is a good indicator for trouble. a ssecond one would on top be an additional failure point and another piece that has to be stored, needs a D-ring, etc.
we dive dry, but use extra suit inflation in form of a 6cft bottle mounted on the backplate as it is heliumbased bottomgas most of the time. hope this helps
Thanks for the reply. Clearifies some things a bit ;)
I've just ordered a new bottle with dual cranes with the purpose of getting both regulators completely seperated; I'll use this vid as a reminder for my upcoming set-up.
Thanks, great video, I like the bungee setup, centers on your mouth better. One question, I think I heard 22 CM for the SPG hos, is that correct?
22 inches - 56 cm for the SPG hose
You can use "twist ties" that break off when you twist the end and then you don't have to cut it with a knife.
At 16:20 you purge the regulator while you open the tank valve. I am trained in both CMAS and UTD and I have never ever seen anyone do it before. I got curious and found an instruction video from PADI showing the same thing, as well as a lot of debate online about whether it makes any difference to purge or not. Why do you purge your regulator and do you have hard evidence that it makes any difference?
Kind regards Peter
HI Peter, good question. On some regs, if you just open - the force with which the piston is pressed to the HP seat leeds to a faster detoration of the seat and to a constant leaking. if you purge while opening, the pressure passes the seat and then the piston kind of glides smoothliy into the seat. in fact some regs are more vulnerable then others to this problem - but as a general recommendation it does not hurt.
@@CoastalDevelopment I do it also so my SPG not mot explode and hurt ahybody :-)
Great Video like all the rest (:
Why dont u make a removable necklace?
Meni Hersch because we do not want it to be removable. Murphy is always with us and it will be removed when you need it.:)
thought so. Never liked Murphy
Thanks (:
8:13 The better tool to use for extremely close trimming of wire ties is an "electronics flush cutter" Search this in Amazon "iExcell 4.5" Side Cutter Diagonal Wire Cutting Pliers Nippers Repair Tool, Green, Chrome-Vanadium Steel" These are the smaller bench tools electronic technicians use to nip off the leads and and small wires while soldering components to an electronic PCB print. I have seen too many technicians not having enough controlled dexterity with a open blade often over running the intended cut and nicking other components. These style of "flush cutters" are externally handy for removing ties as well without damaging other wires, hoses and competes during the cutoff process. They leave a super tight clean cut at the hard of a wire tie and you won't feel any sharp edge after dressing the tie. Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
Does the wing have a pull dump on the power inflator/hose assembly?
Hi, no, never. There is always the possibility of a stuck valve or a ripped of one (seen that a couple of times) and then you have a hole on the highest point of your setup.
CoastalDevelopment - InnerSpace Explorers - ISE
So when you use the kidney dump, does it dump from the top of the wing where the pull dump would exhaust from?
Are those flex hoses recommended by ISE? I thought rubber hoses are preferred.
Nothing beats rubber hoses:-) Specially for the longhose that can be a bit light and floaty when donating if using miflex
What is your opinion on Poseidon regulators?
Well - great quality regs with a long history but due to special hoses, high intermediate pressure and serveral other "special features" they do not really fit our equipment philosophy (interchanchable, low MD, standard parts, etc) The old models have a high exhaling resistance with can cause CO2 problems at high workloads.
Correction on that last question. I meant to say how "long" is that primary hose.
Do you not put a SPG on your primary regulator? How do you manage gas?
Using the SPG from the left post (if diving manifolded twins/doubles.)
we use extra suit inflation , 6cft bottle
InnerSpace Explorers - ISE argon best?
What's the best way to stow long hose when not in use
Tucked under a battery canister for a primary light. If you don't have one then tucked down into the waist strap.
Where would you put the drysuit hose
The drysuit hose goes on the left post for redundancy.
is there any problems using bungee to tie bolt snaps onto hoses?
Bungie wold not be as reliable in holding the bolt snap position ver time, by nature is dynamic and stretchy in nature. Nylon cave line being used for tie off here is a static line that you can tighten securely for a secure hold. You want a long secure marriage of the bolt snap to the hose to stay locked to the position you have placed it. Tech diving is based a lot on muscle memory and having things precisely located so over time and experience with your kit you tend to remove a lot of task loading during stressful sustains. He wants one fist length of spacing and six months to several years late after much use and seawater he still expects his bolt snap to be exactly where he placed it in this initial setup. Hope that make since to why these dives are very precise and calculated in how the gear is being rigged here. Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
Where do u renamed to put a dry suit inflation
If you're not using a separate (argon) bottle, you would put the dry-suit inflator hose on the left tank's valve. The left valve only has the short regulator hose and the SPG hose as shown here, so there are free low-pressure ports available.
My question why twins has not double inflation
No need to have and extra hose for inflating your BC. With a manifold as long as you can get gas to a working regulator you still have oral inflation of your bc as an option. He's also running separate 6cf bottle specific for drysuit inflation. Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter
The MK25 is not safe for coldwater diving in Germany. I would prefer a membrane regulator like the Mk17, even though hose routing is less comfortable
Hi bro love your videos but the bungee setup is wrong
always happy to learn - was not aware of wrong or right - just of reasonable and less and the last thing I want is my necklace to be gone when I need it because of a loose bungee.
Hey, it looked as if you did a granny knot instead of the reef knot (Kreuzknoten) you intended? The granny knot is not quite as good, but easily produced by accident. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_knot
Nope
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