Not sure if that would make much of a difference, because what ultimately led to their retirement was the structural integrity of their car body frame, which was built with carbon steel. During the graffiti era, most subway cars undergone acid treatment, in which some of it was said to have leaked into the car body frames, and thus causing frame rot. The general overhaul was done to replace electronic and mechanical components, but not necessarily change anything with respect to the car body itself, minus some small aesthetics on the exterior. It was determined right before their early retirement that the structural integrity of their car body frame may not last long for most of the fleet, before something serious can happen. I miss these cars too, as I had grown up with them on the A train
“Until 2010, the A line was the mainstay of the R44 type subway cars. The R44s were built in 1971-1973 by the St. Louis Car company, and we’re retired in 2010 by the R160 type cars.” Yet, in 2010, not a SINGLE R160 was sent in regular revenue service on the A line. They used R46s instead.
@@poser-_-wya What was pointless? Also keep in mind that the R46 cars were indirect replacements for the R44s. The arrival of R160 cars pushed out R46 cars to the A route, which in turn pushed out the R44s to retirement.
At least we have the SIR R44s still running, but only for a couple more years. Rode both the NYCT and SIR R44s for many years, I have lots of memories riding them when I was little
Nice. I’ll never forget the times I rode the R44 (A) train. Although it sucks now that the R44s retired 1 to 3 years early, it’s a good thing the R46s has survived 2 to 5 extra years to make up for the amount of time used up by the structural issues that could’ve been addressed on the R44s back then. Although the R44s have their own share of issues, they’ll still remain as part of our childhood and will always be known as one of the the legendary (A) train fleets
I miss the r44s so bad...BTW at the 1:37 mark before the A approaches in front of the camera. What was that r42 set while hearing the speaker saying running on the F line, Bergen St next stop..Was that train rerouted?
I miss her so much. I think about her, the R32 (still can’t watch Mr. Happy Brightliner without crying), the R38 twins, and the R40S. And now her twin sister, R46, I’m enjoying while she’s still here.
@@Dondeenie eh not as much as the R44s retiring, because ever since the R46s went CI taking over the Q, W and N lines it became boring ever since even on the A line they're boring. The only lines I like the R46s on is the F R and G lines. Besides, the R211s need to come quick cause I heard that the R46s are breaking down to much.
@@brownmtrainandvtrainfan3327 they look better with the strip, the interior is better with the glass on the sides by the doors, and the A cars have more sets on the r44 then the r46
@@lewisasaprichards5649 They screwed up on the A meaning the fucking train was having structural issues that's a shame mta had 1000% chance to give it to pullman standard instead they gave it to the st louis. Because pullman standard built the R46 is the reason that it still runs today should of happened same to the R44
I grew up riding these. I miss that brake release sound and how fast these cars still were even after the field shunt mods!
The 2000's was just amazing
Exactly!
I miss riding the r44 on the A. plus the r32 and r38.
Fr the R32/38 mixes on the A and C were legendary
Oh wow nice throwback. If only the overhaul was done better so that they would have lasted longer.
Not sure if that would make much of a difference, because what ultimately led to their retirement was the structural integrity of their car body frame, which was built with carbon steel. During the graffiti era, most subway cars undergone acid treatment, in which some of it was said to have leaked into the car body frames, and thus causing frame rot.
The general overhaul was done to replace electronic and mechanical components, but not necessarily change anything with respect to the car body itself, minus some small aesthetics on the exterior. It was determined right before their early retirement that the structural integrity of their car body frame may not last long for most of the fleet, before something serious can happen.
I miss these cars too, as I had grown up with them on the A train
@@NYLifeInNJ it would have. The overhauler warned about the bad structural quality when it was getting overhauled but it fell on dead ears
I’m not sure if it would’ve stayed because the conductors hated the cab of how narrow it was and it was rusted and couldn’t run
I never realized the difference between the two until someone pointed out the gray line. These have that glass panel also
The R46 also had these, they were removed during GOH.
You totally got me there. I thought I was gonna foam
“Until 2010, the A line was the mainstay of the R44 type subway cars. The R44s were built in 1971-1973 by the St. Louis Car company, and we’re retired in 2010 by the R160 type cars.”
Yet, in 2010, not a SINGLE R160 was sent in regular revenue service on the A line. They used R46s instead.
So it was freaking pointless
@@poser-_-wya What was pointless?
Also keep in mind that the R46 cars were indirect replacements for the R44s. The arrival of R160 cars pushed out R46 cars to the A route, which in turn pushed out the R44s to retirement.
@@TheRailLeaguer ohhhh that makes total sense I think I read it in a wrong way
True and now the R211 is gonna push the R160 onto the A and Push R46 to retirement
@@onlyinnewyork7103 The base order is most likely going to be directly assigned to the A, pushing the R46 cars there for retirement.
Glad to live in SI We still have 44's runing on our railroad
At least we have the SIR R44s still running, but only for a couple more years.
Rode both the NYCT and SIR R44s for many years, I have lots of memories riding them when I was little
Nice. I’ll never forget the times I rode the R44 (A) train. Although it sucks now that the R44s retired 1 to 3 years early, it’s a good thing the R46s has survived 2 to 5 extra years to make up for the amount of time used up by the structural issues that could’ve been addressed on the R44s back then. Although the R44s have their own share of issues, they’ll still remain as part of our childhood and will always be known as one of the the legendary (A) train fleets
This is just beautiful and brought back so many memories
I love the video and content you always post keep up the good work!
Nice, those are some of my favorite cars
Miss the brake release sounds and flying into 42nd southbound
Yessss that air release echoed through the Fulton tunnel walls was always my favorite
R44/46 will always be a big piece of the A line
Good times with the R44's on the MTA NYCT Subway
I Miss Riding R44 A Train So Much ❤
I miss the r44s so bad...BTW at the 1:37 mark before the A approaches in front of the camera. What was that r42 set while hearing the speaker saying running on the F line, Bergen St next stop..Was that train rerouted?
That was a rerouted R42 V Train!
@@DJHTransport haaa V train welcome to Brooklyn then....well except that week in 05 to Euclid Av cuz of that Chambers St problem
Any V train throwbacks?
Ahhhh when the breaks are released 😋😋😋😋
Nice video!
What’s the song name for 0:00-0:54 🎧
Well, I miss the R44s running express on the A Line. My favourite memories.
The r46 misses its twin.
Goodbye old friend. You are missed.
okay but the song is lowkey a banger
A trip to memory lane
Also R44s were the first Trains to use the famous 2 tone door chime
Is it just me, or do the R44s sound very similar to the R68s?
I remembered that I rode it as kid
Last month of 2022 i seen a r44 with the carbon stripe on it but its doors were partally opened. i think that might be the last of the nycta r44s.
I wish there was a farewell run for the R44...
The whistle at 5:01 sounded like the ones on the R32s and R42s
1:00 lawddd fadda jeebusss I miss that sound...
That sound is still on the R46
What were the 44’s and the 46’s like with their traditional rollsigns?
RIP the V and the R44's
I love R44 trains
I miss her so much. I think about her, the R32 (still can’t watch Mr. Happy Brightliner without crying), the R38 twins, and the R40S. And now her twin sister, R46, I’m enjoying while she’s still here.
I miss them
Tbh I'm kinda surprised seeing the R44s but not the R46s
That was like 2 decades ago...
You'll only see them now on S.I.R.
@@Dondeenie I know it's boring and depressing seeing those R46s now.
@@soraforpresident5209 You'll be even more depressed once they retire and get replaced by the new R211s...
@@Dondeenie eh not as much as the R44s retiring, because ever since the R46s went CI taking over the Q, W and N lines it became boring ever since even on the A line they're boring. The only lines I like the R46s on is the F R and G lines. Besides, the R211s need to come quick cause I heard that the R46s are breaking down to much.
@@soraforpresident5209 I also hear creaking metal when I ride it on the Q and it jerk starts a little aggressive
Throwback Thursday
I miss them...
Oh wow nice
Hi :D
I saw one this year
Oh Wow That Very Nice R44 Is Coming Back On A Line 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🚆🚆🚆🚆😍😍😍👍🙏🎀🛍Awesome
they will not return to the subway
an average new yorker wouldnt even notice the difference between a r46 and r44 lmao
Do SIR R44 next!!!
@Anthony Z 😂😂😂
Missed the R-44
The r44s are so much better then the r46s
how exactly
@@brownmtrainandvtrainfan3327 they look better with the strip, the interior is better with the glass on the sides by the doors, and the A cars have more sets on the r44 then the r46
@@lewisasaprichards5649 but they screwed up the (A) line and they also retired earlier then the r46s
@@brownmtrainandvtrainfan3327 how did they screw up the A? The r44s ran great on the A with the r32s and r38s at that time.
@@lewisasaprichards5649 They screwed up on the A meaning the fucking train was having structural issues that's a shame mta had 1000% chance to give it to pullman standard instead they gave it to the st louis. Because pullman standard built the R46 is the reason that it still runs today should of happened same to the R44
So the a use to be 8 cars ?
if the R44 makes howling sounds, begs the question: does the R46 howl?
Wdym
@@onlyinnewyork7103 Maybe bc only the R46 oooos.
1:31
YESSIR
*FOAM* R44 S TRAIN
Ayyyyy
R44 > R46
R46 > R44 Because they are more reliable than the R44
Both are trash 😂😂
Oh Wow We Waiting for R44 Subway Cars To Retuning To A Lines Platforms 🌥💧💦☁️☁️⛅️⛅️☂️.
they will not return to the subway
Oh Wow We Waiting For R44 Subway Train Cars To Returned To A Lines Platforms Subway Station Very Soon As Possible 😚🎃💜❤️❣️💚🌐🤾🏿♀️👾⛴.
they will not return to the subway
She’s retired from our system. SIRT still has her; enjoy while you can. Baby R211S will replace the R44.