@@h4z31nut strictly speaking to counter this change either you spam ground to erase the objective: or you get heavy anti-air. Thor is NOT heavy anti air. Cyclones spread across your entire grid? probably.
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 I agree but caution is advised: soon after you hit critical mass: the motherships will erase the entire formation with their AOE ability... Cyclones are not a 'surefire' way to win but will hold the motherships back for several waves (probably 5 or more will erase the cyclones regardless) Don't forget the upgrade deals powerful DoT to single targets, not a powerful upfront nuke.
after we all realised what was happening we switched out to other things pretty quick (like void rays) but there were 3-4 on the screen almost at all times
This strat is crazy in the Weekly Brawl right now ^^ We just had a game where ALL 3 of our players went for it. We ended the game with 3 Motherships each ^^ (Yes we survived just barely due to all the buildings ^^ )
Hey Incursus! This is MadDogMac I played in one of your practice rounds yesterday and the whole reason I played was because you taught me how in these videos. That was the first day ever and it was a fun honor to play with my favorite TH-camr!
16:50 "Captain! We just locked down the enemy mothership with our ultimate trump card!" "Good work lad. With this victory we can begin our countera--" "CAPTAIN THERE'S 2 OF THEM NOW"
That first game the push back wave that the enemy had actually helped you a lot by pushing your motherships back off the front line and allowing your allies' units to take their place and tank for them. lol
hyperion stacks with other waves very well and does damage over time. It is quite bad alone. However, motherships can be alone and still push across the field with relative ease.
I came across this strat in game yesterday. I stacked dehakas flying banelings against them and they did reasonably well. Unfortunatly a team mate rquit and eventually we got overwhelmed by his other team mates. It is a fun strat though, takes a fair bit to counter too especially if you don't expect it. :D
@@oscaryeung3601 the cooldown is there irrespective of whether you do it before or later so it is better to do it before so that it starts paying off dividends earlier
How to beat motherships: have dehaka on you team Dehaka eats a mothership Be alarak Build own motherships By virtue of dehaka eating a mothership, you have the mothership advantage, and thus win.
Do you have tips to kill the psychic race (I have not played in a long time) using the terrans? I am going up against my camp counselor soon, and he wins 8 to 1. We are playing in Starcraft 1 brood war
I honestly thought this was going to be a garbage strat, but it gets out fast enough (assuming you don't get a 3rd gas if they rush) fast enough that you don't lose to rushes. And rushes would consist of lots of weak units, which would get slaughtered by the mothership ability. The only counterplay to mothership + havoc range would be mirage I think. And if only one commander can beat it, that makes it too strong. Dehaka/Alerak/Fenix cant tank one, much less more Swarms of units are wiped away instantly by manual targeting of laser Maybe mass queens? But they still wont kill it. Only stall it.. and it has 2000 hp. Thors/Viking/Void rays counter it until havoc range comes out, and then they are crushed.
Commanders that confirmed hard counter it: Nova goliaths. Swann goliaths. Alarak slayers. Karax mirages. Dehaka consume+hydras. Zagara scourge. Other commanders are still being tested, and several look promising, but I won't speak on them until they have been tested more.
I desperately want to know what was being said in that enemy team chat in the first round. It had to be something along the lines of "What the fuck is happening!? I thought he was AFK!"
Incursus: Whatever you do, don't rush up to tech level 3 and get 3 gas while not placing any units. If you do it you will die. Also Incursus: Rushes to tech level 3 and places 3 gas before getting any units and then goes on to easily win the game
just played with a guy massing MS and i had to clear his wave for him before i matched up with my counter opponent. and with a bunch of mech hydras would destroy his wave and i would run out of energy on my mirages before i could take on the whole wave... of course he blamed me and we lost
I love direct strike, however, there are some real douches playing. Last night, for example, I was going tanky because the person before me was 100% stealth dps... so everything was walking right past his wave and into our base. I had a line of infested bunkers and diamondbacks and was halting the opponents AND pushing a bit every wave... both the person spawning before and after me started yelling at me and telling me to use the exploding infantry, and saying that my wave was failing somehow even though my wave was the only tanky one and was the only thing stopping the opponents from walking right up to our base most of the time... I hate people.
Can you pls try to do mass infestor in normal direct strike it would be funny to watch (I wll keep saying this on Starcraft videos) edit: its kinda like this were u use max upgrades and gas only instead of using it on a good unit u use it on infestors
So let me get this straight. Stucov's Apocalic that cost 1100 minerals and have 1500 hp get buff: instead of melee each upgrade to go +5, it goes +8 (so fully upgraded Apocalic now do 9 more melee damage.) Alurak's Mothership that cost 1100 minerals and have 2000 hp and fly got range damage buffed to 38*6. Now, I know that Stucov have solid Tier 1 and decent Tier 2, but how is it fair? Unlocking Tier 3 to use Apocalic don't seem to be worth it when you could get tanks or infesters instead. Stucov's Tier 3 just seem super weak.
Bleh, longtime Forts fan and I have to admit a part of me was disappointed when I saw you playing this game. After watching a couple games tho I can see why you like this game. My knee jerk reaction to hate on this SC is mainly because 1v1 Starcraft gets stale to me but this versions multiplayer aspect with all the different paper-rock-scissors counters looks not only fun to play... but has been fun to watch.
@@Drako2k0 I don't know the game in question but, would you have been able to wait for 3 motherships? Would he have taken out the base before you were able to counter? Just curious.
@@camdenyu1302 I can yes, knowing he was going mothership, I could have soft countered him. Enoguh to stall the time, but not scare him away from building more
@@julianintveld3625 Reaper man is your answer as Tychus, actually countering motherships overall is easy if you know it's coming, if not then it will be too late to do something about it.
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Man: I feel so hungry I could eat a horse!
Dehaka: Hold my mothership
That one is good XD
2000 IQ jokes👌
When you think its going to be a meme strat but then its a viable strat.
Ally: What are you going?
Inc.: Memes
winning.
Nice hehehehe
@@h4z31nut strictly speaking to counter this change either you spam ground to erase the objective: or you get heavy anti-air.
Thor is NOT heavy anti air.
Cyclones spread across your entire grid? probably.
@@glenmcgillivray4707 mass cyclones with the magfield upgrade and focus fire would work
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 I agree but caution is advised: soon after you hit critical mass: the motherships will erase the entire formation with their AOE ability... Cyclones are not a 'surefire' way to win but will hold the motherships back for several waves (probably 5 or more will erase the cyclones regardless) Don't forget the upgrade deals powerful DoT to single targets, not a powerful upfront nuke.
"you have to build units"
**doesnt build units for most of the game: then wins**
ingame timer was at 4:20 when you placed the first mother ship, if that's not perfection i don't know what is
Should be called 420 strat then
And you have 69 likes
*4:19
> Freaking space city
> Some disabled lizard
> 24:20
[Insert joshi sound here]
I tried this strategy after I watched the video and I wound up with a 3 Alarack team vs. a 3 Alarack team and we all went for motherships ;)
Thats.... terrafiring and true i did the same and had it 3 times in row
How many were on the board at once?
after we all realised what was happening we switched out to other things pretty quick (like void rays) but there were 3-4 on the screen almost at all times
Please upload your video for it will be the most watched video on TH-cam.
Let me guess, Alarak won?
24:20 Excuse me?
So lizard devours city? Wat?
go go, godzilla!
just played this in weekly brawl. my mothership had 2.5k hp
Well I was playing Dehaka today and faced this build. Fun fact, Dehaka can devour motherships :)
Edit: Ah, it's shown later in the video.
This strat is crazy in the Weekly Brawl right now ^^
We just had a game where ALL 3 of our players went for it. We ended the game with 3 Motherships each ^^
(Yes we survived just barely due to all the buildings ^^ )
Ok guis we need some complex and smart strategy to win this
Spam mothership
Thats one meme
wdym "spam" 1 is enough and maybe too much
Hey Incursus! This is MadDogMac I played in one of your practice rounds yesterday and the whole reason I played was because you taught me how in these videos. That was the first day ever and it was a fun honor to play with my favorite TH-camr!
Liam McKenna same here I tried the swann wraiths as player donkey
Independence Day
Hell yeah brother
Triple match? You're going to spoil us sir. :D
16:50
"Captain! We just locked down the enemy mothership with our ultimate trump card!"
"Good work lad. With this victory we can begin our countera--"
"CAPTAIN THERE'S 2 OF THEM NOW"
Thats op af! Cant wait to see this on the stream later whoop whoop
That first game the push back wave that the enemy had actually helped you a lot by pushing your motherships back off the front line and allowing your allies' units to take their place and tank for them. lol
I love that the mothership actually gets played but Damn seems a bit to strong
Can two Motherships beat the Hyperion? Roughly the same mineral investment
most certainly, they have significantly more single target dps than hyperion does now
@@THE_BLOOD_MAN wow Thats op
@@THE_BLOOD_MAN Can two handle 5 (some minerals left over) Karax Carriers?
@@mattb896 easily, yes. the carriers do like no damage to teh mamaships
and a single mamaship beats the hyperion
hyperion stacks with other waves very well and does damage over time. It is quite bad alone. However, motherships can be alone and still push across the field with relative ease.
I came across this strat in game yesterday. I stacked dehakas flying banelings against them and they did reasonably well. Unfortunatly a team mate rquit and eventually we got overwhelmed by his other team mates.
It is a fun strat though, takes a fair bit to counter too especially if you don't expect it. :D
17:09
Do you mean the Supreme Commander trailer? Take down 1 giant walking lazer spider... 2 more coming in...
Laughed my ass of then Dehaka ate Mothership, wasn't expecting that
the 3rd match was a happy surprise :)
It makes more sense to go for gases first and then upgrade tier so that you have an income advantage earlier
Isn't there a cool down for gases?
@@oscaryeung3601 the cooldown is there irrespective of whether you do it before or later so it is better to do it before so that it starts paying off dividends earlier
@@Apocalypse9696 I know
You said "gases"
@@oscaryeung3601 I don't get it.
Can you explain
@@Apocalypse9696 "gases" meaning with an "s" meaning more than one
When I saw one of the players going dehaka, and I’ve been here before, I new that I would see one eating a WHOLE FRICKING MOTHER SHIP
I fear no man. But those... _memes..._
*...they scare me.*
it is almost not fun, just how OP it can be, othervice good video as always
A better less easily countered build would be full death fleet rather than just motherships, tho you did say it was for the memes...
3 great games! heck ya!
How to beat motherships:
have dehaka on you team
Dehaka eats a mothership
Be alarak
Build own motherships
By virtue of dehaka eating a mothership, you have the mothership advantage, and thus win.
As Han and Horner best counter is reavers, 20 destroyed 4 in one game of mine same mineral investment and they mostly live, mostly
Some vipers and infestor neural parasites would make this strategy hellish rofl
I just did this exact thing, the enemy alarak started doing to 😂😂😂
What's your opinion about Stukovs queens for DS? Now they can target both massive and heroic units.
So mean, love it
Do you have tips to kill the psychic race (I have not played in a long time) using the terrans? I am going up against my camp counselor soon, and he wins 8 to 1. We are playing in Starcraft 1 brood war
I'm largely unfamiliar with brood war.
actually caught u in a game last night
See kids, this is why you read the balance patches.
I honestly thought this was going to be a garbage strat, but it gets out fast enough (assuming you don't get a 3rd gas if they rush) fast enough that you don't lose to rushes. And rushes would consist of lots of weak units, which would get slaughtered by the mothership ability. The only counterplay to mothership + havoc range would be mirage I think. And if only one commander can beat it, that makes it too strong.
Dehaka/Alerak/Fenix cant tank one, much less more
Swarms of units are wiped away instantly by manual targeting of laser
Maybe mass queens? But they still wont kill it. Only stall it.. and it has 2000 hp.
Thors/Viking/Void rays counter it until havoc range comes out, and then they are crushed.
Commanders that confirmed hard counter it:
Nova goliaths.
Swann goliaths.
Alarak slayers.
Karax mirages.
Dehaka consume+hydras.
Zagara scourge.
Other commanders are still being tested, and several look promising, but I won't speak on them until they have been tested more.
Project Incursus Gaming I read someone else commented saying they used blink stalkers to counter it
If I could get on i’d play karax and counter all the mamaboats with my mirages.
with the week bral i got a 6000 hp hyperion
I desperately want to know what was being said in that enemy team chat in the first round. It had to be something along the lines of "What the fuck is happening!? I thought he was AFK!"
I had a guy try this against me as Vorazun... it failed so miserably against blink stalker i didn't realize it is a viable strategy.
Yeah everytime they are damaged, blink away and avoid death. Probably one of the best counters.
We've had one mothership, yes. What about second mothership?
Wait... why can Dehaka eat the mothership???? it is "Heroic"...
Dehaka can eat heroic. Dehaka cannot eat unique heroes
Heroic with a background lore.
Price of mothership is increased to 1300.
"Lost unit count: 3"
How does a lizard eat an entire mothership??!
Incursus: Whatever you do, don't rush up to tech level 3 and get 3 gas while not placing any units. If you do it you will die.
Also Incursus: Rushes to tech level 3 and places 3 gas before getting any units and then goes on to easily win the game
And his first gas barely paid for itself by the time the match ended.
Someone please pass Dehaka a lamb sauce
why do you never upgrade shields?
just played with a guy massing MS and i had to clear his wave for him before i matched up with my counter opponent. and with a bunch of mech hydras would destroy his wave and i would run out of energy on my mirages before i could take on the whole wave... of course he blamed me and we lost
Where you just doing direct strike?
What is it my birthday? A 3rd match, yeah!
Try this tactic in wekly brawl pls
Where does he find out about these balance changes?
Why do you say that Nikara is a bad unti? Is it because she doesn't have an attack?
Who gets the middle bonus if your units chase something backwards over the line?
If your units chase an opposing unit over the line, the opponents get the middle bonus
more of sc2 direct strike please
Did they nerf the mothership yet?
I love direct strike, however, there are some real douches playing. Last night, for example, I was going tanky because the person before me was 100% stealth dps... so everything was walking right past his wave and into our base. I had a line of infested bunkers and diamondbacks and was halting the opponents AND pushing a bit every wave... both the person spawning before and after me started yelling at me and telling me to use the exploding infantry, and saying that my wave was failing somehow even though my wave was the only tanky one and was the only thing stopping the opponents from walking right up to our base most of the time... I hate people.
Is that not true of any place where you interact with people?
I see I watch =D
*Wow that worked?*
Lmao i gotta try this😂😂😂😂
mass stalker could
yee yee juice
This is so op that I almost opened my SC2 in my office to try it in front of all my co-leagues (and bosses)...
Alarak swan and reigner
Can you pls try to do mass infestor in normal direct strike it would be funny to watch (I wll keep saying this on Starcraft videos)
edit: its kinda like this were u use max upgrades and gas only instead of using it on a good unit u use it on infestors
Sorry Incursus but i've only got this to say about that MS rush; FACEPALM!!!
So let me get this straight.
Stucov's Apocalic that cost 1100 minerals and have 1500 hp get buff: instead of melee each upgrade to go +5, it goes +8 (so fully upgraded Apocalic now do 9 more melee damage.)
Alurak's Mothership that cost 1100 minerals and have 2000 hp and fly got range damage buffed to 38*6.
Now, I know that Stucov have solid Tier 1 and decent Tier 2, but how is it fair? Unlocking Tier 3 to use Apocalic don't seem to be worth it when you could get tanks or infesters instead. Stucov's Tier 3 just seem super weak.
Is it just me or it feels like incursos voice is really low this video
Bleh, longtime Forts fan and I have to admit a part of me was disappointed when I saw you playing this game. After watching a couple games tho I can see why you like this game. My knee jerk reaction to hate on this SC is mainly because 1v1 Starcraft gets stale to me but this versions multiplayer aspect with all the different paper-rock-scissors counters looks not only fun to play... but has been fun to watch.
Darn my match didnt make it into the vid 😂 is it because i forced you off the mamas after you only built 1? 😂😂😂
He mentioned those matches. Well done for countering the memecursion.
Camden Yu if i had known he was going for the memes i would have waited til he had 3 before countering it 😂😂😂
@@Drako2k0 I don't know the game in question but, would you have been able to wait for 3 motherships? Would he have taken out the base before you were able to counter? Just curious.
@@camdenyu1302 I can yes, knowing he was going mothership, I could have soft countered him. Enoguh to stall the time, but not scare him away from building more
Haha *INFESTORS*
Mother ships are heroic how dahaca ate them
Dehaka gives no shits about heroic
First
I want to kill myself
thumb down for each win
why u bild 3 gaz? this games too fast)
its actually ez to shut down if its your wave
Well then, come with the counters if it is so easy. How does a tychus do it for example.
@@julianintveld3625 Reaper man is your answer as Tychus, actually countering motherships overall is easy if you know it's coming, if not then it will be too late to do something about it.
dang, this vid has like 5 ads
@25:26 "Why are you so faaaat?!" "How does Dahakka eat a whole mothership?!"
lol slightly toxic XD!!!!
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