I am totally amazed at my 2.5 Dynamic Force engine in my 2020 Camry LE (8,350 total miles) I recently took a 445 mile trip that put my car through just about all the scenarios a car could face including, freeway, hills, mountains, long gradual inclines, long gradual declines, 78 miles of winding uphill, downhill, sharp turns, not so sharp turns, manually downshifting, manually upshifting, and driving around a small coastal California town of Fort Bragg for two days. After I came back home I filled up the tank to check for the first time my gas milage turned out to be...an amazing "35.8 miles per gallon." I had to redo the numbers on my calculator to double check...445 miles divided by 12.4 gallons of gas. I am totally amazed! And all these miles were not "easy interstate miles"...only about 125, or so. My car performed better than I anticipated and this engine...totally amazed me! The car is rated for 39 MPG (freeway) on the window sticker. It looks like it would do even better! Totally amazing!
I agree . I have a 2018 model and I use the manual shift option almost daily . When going down a long stretch I downshift to control speed. Also around town for one pedal driving. To keep RPM high to merge on highway . The engine and eight speed transmission are a very good match . Just change your oil every 5K and filter 10K .
@@rayRay-pw6gz All logic and credible mechanics profoundly suggest changing filter every time oil is changed. C'mon man...are you kidding? I'll loan you the $7.00 for a new filter.
Even without Port Injector the direct injector is designed to clean some of the intake valves like what Honda did. But of course Port Injector is better since it also cleans the stems.
Now in Indonesia adopted to Innova Zenix hibrid which produced with locally part with Toyota Astra Manufacturer. Amazing efficiency and high power and torqeu.
The video shows strong tumble flow with the port injected fuel. When and how much is the direct injected fuel method used? Are they used at the same time?
It depends on load and temperature. The car operates differently, normally with port and direct injection, but some instances have only port, or direct injection. Direct injection with Toyota D4-S is largely used to cool the combustion charge and make it more dense; thus allowing more fuel to be added by the port injectors and control combustion temperature directly. Toyota D4-S isn't as focused on maximum power output as other brands; more smoothness, reliability, tractability and fuel economy/emissions.
@Take the red pill Looking more like a 10-15 year's before electric vehicles overtaken gas fueled engines for overall cost of ownership. Not to mention fast charging has a ways to go as few people willing to wait 40+ mins for 80% charge. And as always electric network has long ways to go. Especially here in Canada it'll be decade before Electrics overtake gas cars with sparse populations outside major urban centers.
Honestly I'm willing to bet this engine will be a flexible, torquey, and fun powerplant if only it could be paired with anything besides a slushbox in a front-heavy family sedan.
the direct injector is designed to spray fuel on the intake valve, so carbon deposits should not be a problem even at high rpms. i'm guessing they're experimenting with this solution for when the indirect injection will be completely removed due to cost concerns...
etot motor odnorazovyj, 150kkm ili chiut bolshe projdiot, jesli poveziot, i vsio - vybrasyvaj..i to, vriadli projdiot bez problem do etix 150kkm..skolko tut vsiakovo gavna, elektroniki i upravlenija vsiakim..gavno eto ne motor.
I wonder if water injection works with that. If you had some sort of venturi to speed up air around a small cylinder wick maybe it could use water injection to prevent knocking or better performance burning a cold fuel vapor. Though I wonder if kerosene would work as well.
It would be nice to see this technology in the Subaru powered Toyota 86! How about any kind of rear wheel drive Corolla!!?? Affordable rear drive sedan??
it should be noted, that the cylinder block design, and even cylinder head with laser-clad valve seats, make it impossible to rebuild or repair this engine with a reasonable budget - (this engine is kinda a one-off).
I have this engine in my 2020 Camry LE. Obviously...is way more advanced and complicated than the HAL 9000 and the Space Shuttle. I guess I'll have to retire my dwell meter!
They forgot to side gap the spark plugs for a more exposed and increased ignition time during the time it takes for the spark to ignite the fuel. Thats at least good for another 5 horse power.
It be nice. It’s about fuel efficiency that’s mDe to last. With force induction it literally means ur forcing all the energy to the engine that can wear out faster
It is. Because when they improve more to find away to gain more efficient engine, than this is how they do it by recreating the engine. Honestly it is better than electric. Because with combustion engines last much longer than electric. Sure it’s extremely efficient from electric vehicles but there very complex and very expensive to repair. They can breaks down easily after time to time. The world isn’t ready for electric vehicles.
@@toyotabrony Almost everything you said is wrong. Internal combustion engines are no where near as efficient as an electric motor. Electric motors can achieve efficiencies of greater than 90%. Typical ICE motors are around 30-40%. That gap is going to be VERY hard to close given that most of the energy from combustion is wasted in the form of heat. Electric motors are WAY more durable and have longer service lives vs a combustion engine. The cost of repairing a Tesla may be high, but the the relative simplicity of the car means more reliability. Electric car motors have FAR fewer moving parts that a comparable ICE based cars. The typical ICE valve train has more parts in it than both of the electric motors in a Tesla combined. Tesla cars have no need for a transmission cutting several hundred moving parts out of the equation.
@@brandons9138 What you're not taking into account is the efficiency of the energy electrics use from the grid which are far below 90% efficient and also mostly powered by oil still. So electrical powered by cars still have long way to go before being truly more efficient then gas Autos, especially with increased energy c02 involved in manufacturing an EV. Engineering Explained the channel has good video on this.
My response to Toyota Brony was about the efficiency of Gas vs Electric motors in an end use capacity. Nowhere in my post did I talk about the efficiency of the support infrastructure.
@@brandons9138 they kind of go hand in hand correct? At least in the real world. That’s why a hummer life cycle is less polluting than a Prius no? Don’t get me wrong I’m a sucker for torque but the current realities are relative.
Really? California has had wildfires in the summer for centuries. Doubt it's because someone is designing a efficient engine. Maybe some vegetation management is in order.
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Little improvements over time makes it perfect. The combo of direct injection and port injection to. keep the ports clean.Great!
Port and Direct Injection. The only way to keep the intake valves clean from gunk from the PCV valve.
Oil catch can is also a way
@@m.morininvestor9920 Yes but doesn't work perfectly and needs to be emptied each oil change
@@m.morininvestor9920 VW owners use them and they still have problems with Carbon buildup. Dual is the way to go.
@@m.morininvestor9920 oil catch cans are a waste of time and money
And the egr
Most advanced engineering yet extremely reliable
Wrong flat top diesel pistons do this process far more efficiently. They just shoehorning the tech into trasholine engine.
Yet my venza is getting diesel type fuel economy in country that barely has diesel options available for the passenger car class😅
I am totally amazed at my 2.5 Dynamic Force engine in my 2020 Camry LE (8,350 total miles) I recently took a 445 mile trip that put my car through just about all the scenarios a car could face including, freeway, hills, mountains, long gradual inclines, long gradual declines, 78 miles of winding uphill, downhill, sharp turns, not so sharp turns, manually downshifting, manually upshifting, and driving around a small coastal California town of Fort Bragg for two days. After I came back home I filled up the tank to check for the first time my gas milage turned out to be...an amazing "35.8 miles per gallon." I had to redo the numbers on my calculator to double check...445 miles divided by 12.4 gallons of gas. I am totally amazed! And all these miles were not "easy interstate miles"...only about 125, or so. My car performed better than I anticipated and this engine...totally amazed me! The car is rated for 39 MPG (freeway) on the window sticker. It looks like it would do even better! Totally amazing!
I agree . I have a 2018 model and I use the manual shift option almost daily . When going down a long stretch I downshift to control speed. Also around town for one pedal driving. To keep RPM high to merge on highway . The engine and eight speed transmission are a very good match . Just change your oil every 5K and filter 10K .
@@rayRay-pw6gz All logic and credible mechanics profoundly suggest changing filter every time oil is changed. C'mon man...are you kidding? I'll loan you the $7.00 for a new filter.
@@sunking2001 adding to environmental waste is a problem for the planet . Being a responsible steward is high on MY list of life priorities .
but which gallons- how many litres per gallon? 🤔 And which mile - how many meters? Thx in advance.
@@sunking2001 There shouldnt be anything for your filter to catch, even Honda has you skip every other OC.
yes I have this new engine in my new Toyota Corolla and thanks God let me have this dream come true 🇩🇴
my dream is, to have a toyota one day.
It's easier to achieve than you think
Even if you can only afford base model you will still be happy
Even without Port Injector the direct injector is designed to clean some of the intake valves like what Honda did. But of course Port Injector is better since it also cleans the stems.
So Rasengan in the combustion chamber?
Kudos to Toyota for keeping with times but not requiring the use of an expensive & complicated turbocharger.
one of the main reasons I got the 21 Rav4 over a CRV
Like Honda??? That's one reason I didn't even consider an Accord...that turbo scared me away.
@@Schmeggma. the crv has a dynamic force engine too atleast mine 2019
@@dontcryboutit new ones have turbos
@@Schmeggma. actually no they don't
Now in Indonesia adopted to Innova Zenix hibrid which produced with locally part with Toyota Astra Manufacturer. Amazing efficiency and high power and torqeu.
The beginning of legend
Don't do that Toyota, think about the other vehicle manufacturers, they deserve a chance
That's why japanese brands invest so much in investigation
Hello, give me a new Toyota I have an old Toyota, I love Toyota😍😍😍🇰🇬🇰🇬🇰🇬
Is it an Atkinson cycle?
I have a 2025 camry hybrid with the A25. I feel a slight jiggle when the engine kicks on while driving. Is that from the Vornado thingie?
At 70mph on flat land(Florida) I was getting 47.5 mpg in a 24 Corolla
Is the A25 in the 2025 Camry Hybrid gonna be an oil burner?
Very cool Toyota.
ok sir
The video shows strong tumble flow with the port injected fuel. When and how much is the direct injected fuel method used? Are they used at the same time?
It depends on load and temperature. The car operates differently, normally with port and direct injection, but some instances have only port, or direct injection. Direct injection with Toyota D4-S is largely used to cool the combustion charge and make it more dense; thus allowing more fuel to be added by the port injectors and control combustion temperature directly. Toyota D4-S isn't as focused on maximum power output as other brands; more smoothness, reliability, tractability and fuel economy/emissions.
This and other new tech engines are why Electric Cars are not going to be as popular as some like Tesla think
@TTRP, plenty of folks still rock mechanical watches. People who appreciate them and are willing to pay to have them serviced and maintained 🙌
@Take the red pill Looking more like a 10-15 year's before electric vehicles overtaken gas fueled engines for overall cost of ownership. Not to mention fast charging has a ways to go as few people willing to wait 40+ mins for 80% charge. And as always electric network has long ways to go. Especially here in Canada it'll be decade before Electrics overtake gas cars with sparse populations outside major urban centers.
mechanical wizardry at its finesses
Amazing to think what geometry alone can do in an engine
Next Level 😃😃
EGR Means Exhaust Gas Recirculation Yes I Am Right 🤔🤔🤔
is 1.5 dynamic force engine compatible with LPG?
6 years ago ? This technology is 6 year already?
Skyactive?
This is the rival
Yep, its all the skyactive design principals (really high compression, etc) but many years later...
@@potatoraider7320 toyota and mazda now have a partnership so perhaps they are sharing ideas :D
Earth Dreams... Honda ditched that branding pretty quick. Hopefully the Dynamic Vornado will last
...Toyota catching up to the Cosworth FVA 'barrel turbulence' of 1967...
Honestly I'm willing to bet this engine will be a flexible, torquey, and fun powerplant if only it could be paired with anything besides a slushbox in a front-heavy family sedan.
what about VVTL-I ? :(
Great vid 😁
the direct injector is designed to spray fuel on the intake valve, so carbon deposits should not be a problem even at high rpms. i'm guessing they're experimenting with this solution for when the indirect injection will be completely removed due to cost concerns...
I think you mean that the port injector is designed to spray fuel on the intake valve.
They haven't done anything but go back to the 90's ge series instead of low performance fe series and added direct injection.
В новом двигателе нет седел клапанов?
напыление на алюминиевую головку блока цилиндров? это мечта миллионов?
etot motor odnorazovyj, 150kkm ili chiut bolshe projdiot, jesli poveziot, i vsio - vybrasyvaj..i to, vriadli projdiot bez problem do etix 150kkm..skolko tut vsiakovo gavna, elektroniki i upravlenija vsiakim..gavno eto ne motor.
I wonder if water injection works with that. If you had some sort of venturi to speed up air around a small cylinder wick maybe it could use water injection to prevent knocking or better performance burning a cold fuel vapor. Though I wonder if kerosene would work as well.
Dose anyone know if you can buy this toyota M15A complete engine new anywhere in the world? Built in France and Japan as far as I know. 👍🇦🇺
I would like to know as well. M15A or M20A
the new corolla and the new yaris has m15a-fks they manufacturing in turkey. But they dont have dual injection as advertised.
Would the Dynamic Force Engine require Regular 87 Octane Gas or Premium 91 Octane Gas???
FMJ 136 it says 87 in my owners manual
Premium 91 octane? Geez... 91 is regular where I live. 98 is premium!
@@danleroux92 Do you live in europe
@@danleroux92 91 in America is the same as 98 in Europe just a different unit of measurement
100 should be premium lol. I use 95 in my daily driver car
It would be nice to see this technology in the Subaru powered Toyota 86! How about any kind of rear wheel drive Corolla!!?? Affordable rear drive sedan??
Is it just me or does this engine rotates counterclockwise?
depends on where you look at it from
Yeah, they're showing the rear part of the engine, which seems like it's rotating counterclockwise
...so what s honda doing about that?
it should be noted, that the cylinder block design, and even cylinder head with laser-clad valve seats, make it impossible to rebuild or repair this engine with a reasonable budget - (this engine is kinda a one-off).
Well they’re ubiquitous so a new one can’t be too much
Over time will these engines have the problem of oil delusion
Lol okay 😂
I have this engine in my 2020 Camry LE. Obviously...is way more advanced and complicated than the HAL 9000 and the Space Shuttle. I guess I'll have to retire my dwell meter!
Supercomputers :D
toyota has alot of work ahead of therm to figure out the problems they're having
M15A-FKS does not have dual injection so this ad is not true for all dynamic force engines
Megane tce
It took Toyota awhile to bring out their own GDI systems. Too bad Honda Earth Dreams GDI beat them by 6 years.
Yeah and Honda got oil dilution problems, while Toyota took the time to perfect theirs
They made pistons 2 big to collapse with the walls. Generate heat and engine stall at high rpm.
управляй не только мечтой
сдох тнвд за 80 тыс км. спасибо за качество
They forgot to side gap the spark plugs for a more exposed and increased ignition time during the time it takes for the spark to ignite the fuel. Thats at least good for another 5 horse power.
next step is to add cylinder deactivation like the one here (th-cam.com/video/Zacs_A6TyrA/w-d-xo.html)
All that technology and they couldn't come up with a better name than "dynamic force engine". Literally everything in cars is "dynamic" these days.
yeah, a very dynamic crap;
Now add a turbo or a supercharger
No thanks
It be nice. It’s about fuel efficiency that’s mDe to last. With force induction it literally means ur forcing all the energy to the engine that can wear out faster
@@NoName-gv6nm that will make it more complex
no
Otto cycle types of engines: you can make a t-rex looks better: put on some new shoes, hat, jacket, sunglasses, jewels... But it still is a t-rex!
I see no where the efficiency will be better than electric motor. I think I will go electric then.
It is. Because when they improve more to find away to gain more efficient engine, than this is how they do it by recreating the engine. Honestly it is better than electric. Because with combustion engines last much longer than electric. Sure it’s extremely efficient from electric vehicles but there very complex and very expensive to repair. They can breaks down easily after time to time. The world isn’t ready for electric vehicles.
@@toyotabrony Almost everything you said is wrong. Internal combustion engines are no where near as efficient as an electric motor. Electric motors can achieve efficiencies of greater than 90%. Typical ICE motors are around 30-40%. That gap is going to be VERY hard to close given that most of the energy from combustion is wasted in the form of heat. Electric motors are WAY more durable and have longer service lives vs a combustion engine. The cost of repairing a Tesla may be high, but the the relative simplicity of the car means more reliability. Electric car motors have FAR fewer moving parts that a comparable ICE based cars. The typical ICE valve train has more parts in it than both of the electric motors in a Tesla combined. Tesla cars have no need for a transmission cutting several hundred moving parts out of the equation.
@@brandons9138 What you're not taking into account is the efficiency of the energy electrics use from the grid which are far below 90% efficient and also mostly powered by oil still. So electrical powered by cars still have long way to go before being truly more efficient then gas Autos, especially with increased energy c02 involved in manufacturing an EV. Engineering Explained the channel has good video on this.
My response to Toyota Brony was about the efficiency of Gas vs Electric motors in an end use capacity. Nowhere in my post did I talk about the efficiency of the support infrastructure.
@@brandons9138 they kind of go hand in hand correct? At least in the real world. That’s why a hummer life cycle is less polluting than a Prius no? Don’t get me wrong I’m a sucker for torque but the current realities are relative.
Hey Toyota get on board with the California emission rules.
The state of California is burning up and you are backing Trump
That’s crazy
Really? California has had wildfires in the summer for centuries. Doubt it's because someone is designing a efficient engine. Maybe some vegetation management is in order.
Rip Toyota
Mind Flowers what are you talking about????
Idiot
Ur stupid dude. Toyota will never go R.I.P. it’s still goin strong than ever. We all know that. So get ur shit straight
Rav4 Prime. Best car available today.
@@ifazer8akathedoctor275 I agree! Just got a 2024 RAV4 Prime XSE in Magnetic Gray Metallic and it's a hoot to drive
junk
Lol yeah keep talkin to urself. Not even close to junk. There well made efficient Inline-4 engines thanks to Toyota.
you bald old junk
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