@@AttawayAudio I can't say, and to be honest, in my amateur productions I usually use the configurable room tool reverb that comes with a lot of inexpensive packages that is capable of dialing it in just the way I want it. I usually don't use presets anyway.
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some say everything but the bass... some say just vocals... others say never the kick drum but everything else... in a live situation it's less critical to put reverb on everything since you're in an acoustic space to begin with
How do you handle the gain staging of the reverb? I route our vocal reverb similar to what you describe (I think). We have an X32 and route multiple vocal channels to a mix bus, apply reverb to the bus and send the bus to an FX return. So I see 3 places for gain adjustment: 1) How much of the input channel (vocal channel) is sent to bus 2) Mix bus level 3) FX return level Where do you set those and which ones do you move around to get the level right in each song?
Input channel send - 0. Mix bus level - 0 or -12. FX return, -12 or 0, depending on what I did with the Mix bus. It doesn't usually change song-to-song, but I do keep my vocal effects on a VCA (or DCA, same thing) just so I can fine-tune it or ride it up for those long notes.
@@AttawayAudio Thanks for the reply! So the main fader you use to set reverb level is the FX return and start around -12 and then use a DCA for in-song fine tuning?
@@bktriplett05 I don't think it really matters as far as sound quality, unlike most every other thing in gain staging(as long as your not clipping). But, for consistency and peace of mind, I always leave my returns at 0 db and never touch them (1 less thing to worry about), and I use the send volume as the control for how much I want. This makes it easy to check and see what and how much is getting sent to the FX by just hitting the sends on fader button after selecting the FX buss on the right side. I also use the FX buss fader to pull it down if I want less reverb on everything and I use the mute for that buss to mute the reverb in between songs when they are talking normally. Hope this helps. Have a wonderful day.
When you add reverb to drums do you send each individual drum channel to your fx send channel or do you have a bus composed off all of your drum channels and send that bus channel to your fx send?
Great tips again James. That H Reverb almost made it to my toolbox, until I bought a Pulsar plug-in bundle with a free reverb. FWIW my Livestream audio includes a delay/reverb FX send on my Studio One DAW. Here's my recipe. I find for myself I liked the control of a pre-fader send at 0 dB. First up on this reverb FX channel is the stock Studio One compressor in sidechain, keying the audio from the main dry sound. I'm getting this ducking effect where I'm really only getting tails when there's a pause in my dry sounds. Next up, Analog Delay at about 100 ms with sine wave ping-pong (because I'm crazy I guess). I'm running just a touch of feedback on this, something like 2%. Last is the reverb itself. My free one gets used here, the Relab LX480 Essentials. I'm doing a 960 vocal plate, and using the built-in high and low pass filters to get me the "Abbey Road trick". I'm high passing at 600 Hz, low passing at 10 kHz. My FX fader for this is at -18 dB for singing, -25 dB during the message. Both delay and reverb are 100% wet as I want this FX channel controlled by its fader. As this is only going to a streaming feed, I'm just adding a touch of reverb to loosely simulate the sanctuary sound. And it must be working fairly well, no solos regarding this...yet.
Do you treat lead and background vocals all the same? We tend to have one lead vocalist on a song and 2-3 backing / harmonizing vocals. I’ve often increased the reverb on the BGV to move them back in the mix a bit.
It's possible, but I'm never that detailed in case someone else is leading the next song. I find just getting the level right in a live context makes it work in tucking the vocal back.
"Avoid the sound tech solo, and nobody goes home humming the kick drum." Gosh man! That was hilarious!
4:45 Spring reverb is also popular in reggae/dub production (drums and rhythm section mostly)
Nice! Didn't know that
Less highs in the verb eq = darker and more depth. Great tip!
deep thoughts
I can see a use for van reverb, not in music production, but in audio design for video if you need to overdub.
true... but how many audio post mixers are using the studiolive for that?
@@AttawayAudio I can't say, and to be honest, in my amateur productions I usually use the configurable room tool reverb that comes with a lot of inexpensive packages that is capable of dialing it in just the way I want it. I usually don't use presets anyway.
Never apologize for getting nerdy. If you aren't getting nerdy, then why are you a sound tech?
it's a nerd's world and I'm just living in it
Excellent tips. Thanks.
Very helpful. Appreciate your channel
I really can’t believe that you’ve just told everyone about the super nerd sound ninja master level! You’ve been reported to the high council.
Thanks Mr. Attaway, your Videos are an educative Excellent information for our church audio Tech's, God Bless you whith the Welthy of heaven, that our lord jesus Christ ever take care of you health and your family too, Blessing from venezuela dear Brother in Jesus.
I'll receive that blessing! God bless you too Juah Carlos! Thanks for being a shining light in Venezuela!
Thanks James...
I have a question.
Should reverb be added to all channels or only vocals?
some say everything but the bass... some say just vocals... others say never the kick drum but everything else... in a live situation it's less critical to put reverb on everything since you're in an acoustic space to begin with
@@AttawayAudio Hmmm... Yh. Thanks James
thanks, very good your videos
How do you handle the gain staging of the reverb? I route our vocal reverb similar to what you describe (I think). We have an X32 and route multiple vocal channels to a mix bus, apply reverb to the bus and send the bus to an FX return.
So I see 3 places for gain adjustment:
1) How much of the input channel (vocal channel) is sent to bus
2) Mix bus level
3) FX return level
Where do you set those and which ones do you move around to get the level right in each song?
Input channel send - 0. Mix bus level - 0 or -12. FX return, -12 or 0, depending on what I did with the Mix bus. It doesn't usually change song-to-song, but I do keep my vocal effects on a VCA (or DCA, same thing) just so I can fine-tune it or ride it up for those long notes.
@@AttawayAudio Thanks for the reply! So the main fader you use to set reverb level is the FX return and start around -12 and then use a DCA for in-song fine tuning?
I had the exact same question!! Thank you!
@@bktriplett05 I don't think it really matters as far as sound quality, unlike most every other thing in gain staging(as long as your not clipping). But, for consistency and peace of mind, I always leave my returns at 0 db and never touch them (1 less thing to worry about), and I use the send volume as the control for how much I want. This makes it easy to check and see what and how much is getting sent to the FX by just hitting the sends on fader button after selecting the FX buss on the right side. I also use the FX buss fader to pull it down if I want less reverb on everything and I use the mute for that buss to mute the reverb in between songs when they are talking normally. Hope this helps. Have a wonderful day.
When you add reverb to drums do you send each individual drum channel to your fx send channel or do you have a bus composed off all of your drum channels and send that bus channel to your fx send?
I send individual channels to the FX aux send, which is routed to the reverb.
@@AttawayAudio okay thank you!!
Great tips again James. That H Reverb almost made it to my toolbox, until I bought a Pulsar plug-in bundle with a free reverb.
FWIW my Livestream audio includes a delay/reverb FX send on my Studio One DAW. Here's my recipe. I find for myself I liked the control of a pre-fader send at 0 dB.
First up on this reverb FX channel is the stock Studio One compressor in sidechain, keying the audio from the main dry sound. I'm getting this ducking effect where I'm really only getting tails when there's a pause in my dry sounds.
Next up, Analog Delay at about 100 ms with sine wave ping-pong (because I'm crazy I guess). I'm running just a touch of feedback on this, something like 2%.
Last is the reverb itself. My free one gets used here, the Relab LX480 Essentials. I'm doing a 960 vocal plate, and using the built-in high and low pass filters to get me the "Abbey Road trick". I'm high passing at 600 Hz, low passing at 10 kHz. My FX fader for this is at -18 dB for singing, -25 dB during the message.
Both delay and reverb are 100% wet as I want this FX channel controlled by its fader. As this is only going to a streaming feed, I'm just adding a touch of reverb to loosely simulate the sanctuary sound. And it must be working fairly well, no solos regarding this...yet.
I'm totally stealing the nerdville and music town analogy
do it 🙌
What plug ins do you use live? And is reverb on mixer “good enough” or are plug ins better?
I like waves H-Verb and R-verb.
Here for the nerdy!
That's right!
Van preset needs it's dedicated video, stay safe
hmmm maybe.....
@@AttawayAudio I remember Sylvia Massy récord a live band inside a van!!!
Do you treat lead and background vocals all the same? We tend to have one lead vocalist on a song and 2-3 backing / harmonizing vocals.
I’ve often increased the reverb on the BGV to move them back in the mix a bit.
It's possible, but I'm never that detailed in case someone else is leading the next song. I find just getting the level right in a live context makes it work in tucking the vocal back.
Finally!!!!!
Started off ok but I got lost when you started talking about the reverb time. Everything after that went in one ear and out the other.
White and nerdy...
that's how i roll
@@AttawayAudio LOL!