I started golfing last year at 35 years old, I bought the Fmax one length as my very first set ever. The idea of only learning one swing really appealed to me and it still does. I’m planning on getting properly fitted for the ForgeTech in the near future. Cheers from Raleigh, North Carolina!
Dear Mark, I was an aspiring junior reaching single handicap at 12 and was at 4 by the time I was 14. It was like set in stone that I would one day work in golf. Then it just stopped for me, I struggled in tournaments and stopped to reach the goals my pro set for me. He blamed it on me, that I didn't practice enough although I spent so many nights at the chipping and pitching area and biking home way past dark. I grew hatred to the game and although I never started playing any other sports I just couldn't get anywhere, especially mentally. Now I'm 32 and I'm still struggling to pick up a golf club without getting bad feelings. Still, every year or two I watch a couple of your videos and I get really excited about playing again, all the good memories return. But usually just 1-2 hours at the range or 9 holes completely drains me and my thoughts always circle around what could have been had I only been better. I wish I could somehow return to the game and feel excited about playing and accepting that I might never play at the level I did back then - but still go out and enjoy hitting the ball without taking it so seriously. Do you have any experience of this or any suggestions for how I could find my love for the game again? Best regards /Hans, Sweden
In England you can receive CBT for free on our national health system which can basically help rewire your mind to think more positively about playing golf. Anything like that in Sweden? I'm guessing you've tried a lot of simpler things to try to help (playing with 5 clubs, playing pitch and putt, joining a society etc.)? I'm sure 9 holes with the muppets would put a smile on anyone's face...what about it MC?
I have the F8 one length iron set, I love them. I am a 14 handicap. I am 56 years old. I love the consistency, distance and feel. Cobra has won me over. I am not going to be a professional. I do not play the tips, I play men's tees, and I have fun playing weekly with my friends. I like the fact that I CAN use a 4 and 5 iron and actually hit them, with Cobra one lengths. New irons have gotten so long, that I had to replace the longer irons with hybrids. I like the fact with Cobra, I can use a full set of irons and hit my distances. They work for me. Thanks Mark for all your videos, I appreciate and respect your insight!
I've been using the King F7 one length irons (5-GW) for about two years. Really improved my greens in regulation numbers, now averaging 13-14 per round, which has helped me reduce my handicap from 7 to 3. I'd like to try the new Forged TEC one length y to see what improvements Cobra have made.
@@danamcqueen6982 I got mine today and took them to the range. The wedges and short irons were easy to hit and dead consistent but the long irons I struggled with kept thinning them because my brain couldn't compute the short length! I suppose they are all different! 😁
Hi Mark been playing these one length irons and hybrids for about 2 years now gone from 7 handicap to 2 with them. Been playing golf for about 30 years now and never had a hole in one until I got these irons now I’ve had 2 hole in ones. Best things ever invented
I have been playing one lengths for nearly two years now, and I love them! I’m 50 years old and shoot low 80’s from the men’s tees. One lengths have simplified and improved my game. I’ll never buy another set set that isn’t one length. In my bag: Cobra F8 driver 🐍 GX7 driver (my primary for accuracy) Cobra F8 3 wood with one length shaft 🐍 Cobra F8 One Length 3 & 4 hybrids 🐍 Cobra F7 One Length 5-GW 🐍 TaylorMade Spider Tour putter
've been olaying rhe cobra king forged tec black one for 1 year now. Hcp went down from 12 to 6. I' ve never felt so confident behind the ball. Just love the concept : 1 set of clubs, 1 swing! Can't wait to see the 2020 models.
I've been playing the Tom Wishon sterling single length irons for 3 years. Absolutely love them. Not a fan of the cobra line. The whole point of single length is same swing, setup, ball position, etc. The cobra have the same length but different weight shafts and different lie angles so the clubs don't feel or look the same.
King F7 for me, love them. Feel normal now and I’m much more consistent with strike. 5 all the way through to a 60 degree wedge. I’d have reservations about switching back to regular irons just the same as many would have going to one length.
I’ve been playing the F8 one length for two seasons now. My only gripe is the chunky ness of the sole and a tad bit heavy. I love the concept of not worrying about ball position. Since I only play maybe once a week and don’t have time to practice, it just keep things simple. I’ve gone from a 10hcp to an 8hcp without having to practice. It works for me.
Great review per usual! I've gamed the Cobra King Forged One length for a year now and I don't see myself going back to variable length anytime soon. One of the best things about one length clubs is that it cuts my practice time in half. I can work on shot shapes and accuracy bucket after bucket without losing sleep that I didn't hit every club above my 6 iron during my practice session. Another plus for me is that I like the simplicity of the setup throughout the set. This translates seamlessly onto the course and helps me by having one less thing to think about before I hit my shot. And the last thing I should mention is that the clubs are stunning! Great quality through and through. I'm so glad I tried the one length because prior to doing so, I had never tried a Cobra product. Now they are the first company I look at when I am in the market for a new club. Their quality and price really can't be beat.
Haven't gamed one length irons because I've had the same clubs for 11 years and don't have the cash to try and change regularly. Plus you taught us that it's all about the player!
in response to your comment about not meeting anyone who "needs" one-length : I'm 6'6" with back issues - had one disc surgery and have some other issues. Cobra made me a set of graphite one length irons and wedges at plus 2 inches. This makes the short clubs what would seem ridiculously long to most people but has greatly reduced the amount of back pain I have after playing. I only play irons up to the 7 - and I love them. Having said that I tried the one length hybrids and really disliked them for basically the same reason - I want to be able to stand as straight up as possible. After a demo day a few weeks ago (before the Coronavirus killed events) I went to Taylormade Sim Max Hybrids at + 3/4 inch. They blended nicely into my Cobra irons and woods. Thanks for your reviews.
Love your guys reviews on one length! Have no bias against them (which so many others do). I game one length F8s. Absolutely love them hands down best clubs I’ve ever played. As for the top end, I game up to a 5i (22.5*) and then use a 3hybrid (19*) as a substitute for a 4 iron. Ends up tapping the clubs perfectly then that way I’ve found.
I gamed the original F7 One Length with a borrowed set. Fell in love with the entire One Length concept. If I could afford new irons I would be shopping for these
I picked up a set of the Cobra F-8 one length irons this year. I really enjoyed hitting them and will be keeping them around for the foreseeable future 👍
Ive played a set when i accidentally brought my sons bag. The set consists of 4 uron through gap wedge. They are easy to hit no adjustment for ball placement and stance width. I use a single plane swing which makes it more natural. Distances are almost the same as my variable length i500s but the ball flight is lower in the longer irons and higher on the shorter irons.
Great video! This covers all aspects of these clubs, from looks, to feel, and performance! My current set of clubs are the Cobra Forged Tec from 2018, standard variable length with the Recoil 660 graphite shaft. My handicap is normally around 6-9, and once in a while it drops to 4-5, so I can hit the ball fairly well. I love the feel of my current clubs, but do struggle at times with my distance irons. I just ordered a set of one length King Forged Tec irons with the Recoil 460 ESX shafts and am looking forward to them even more after watching this video! I ordered the 5-GW along with the one length Speedzone hybrids in 3 and 4. Once I get them and play them for a bit, I'll come back and give you my feedback.
I have one length hybrids for my 4 and 5 and one length 6i and driving iron ... absolutely love them !!! My 5h is my go to club of the deck . My 4h I use of the tee for those tight fairways ... give me so much confidence over the ball
Hi Mark- I’ve been using Cobra F9’s since February and my handicap has dropped from a 23 to 16.5 over the summer. I had a tough time with my short game initially (as a number of people have expressed in the comments) so now my 4 iron thru PW are One Length and my Gap, 56 degree and SW are standard progressive length. The F9’s are great and much longer than my old clubs - 7 iron has gone from 150 to 165 yards which was a nice surprise. To complete the package I ordered new driver and 3 wood combo that are 1 inch short which has really helped me keep it in the fairway.
I used Cobra one length irons, PW to 7 iron, there was a difference in distance, but 6 to 4 hybrid, all pretty much the same distance plus a flat flight!. I think that these irons/ hybrids need individual club customisations, to get the best from these!. Keep going Cobra!.
I originally made my own one length set with X hot Pro heads and PX 6.0 shafts and loved them. When cobra came out with theirs, I switched and they never felt or worked as well for me.
I am using Pinhawk irons for over 10 rounds. My consistency has improved. I now know if I hit a bad shot, the issue is with me and not the change of lengths or lie angles.
I have an old set of mizuno mp52s. Cut down the 6 & 5 iron to 7 iron length. Adjusted lie and added some ledtape. I then bought a cobra 4hybrid one length. Actually works brilliantly.
I am on my second set of one length, current is 6 through pitching wedge Cobra F Max Gap wedge is Cobra F8. 4 and 5 hybrid are Pinhawk. All are 37.5 length and all are 62.5 lie. I went back to standard length Pings G25 after playing some GRIA Nova single length irons. Liked the Pings and played them for 5 + years. Went back to single length for control and the only clubs not single length are my Driver ,3 wood, and sand wedge. I use the Gap wedge like most use their sand wedge. For the touch shots around the green. My sand wedge is a one trick pony - sand trap.
Got the one length F-Max. Love them. Great for me with the confidence of the long irons. U are right they bleed into each other with my 5 iron and my 4 hybrid (f8 one length). Love the short game, I do grip down for the feely shots, but otherwise I try to keep it all the same. Loving the videos. Keep them coming
I put the one length 22 degree hybrid in my bag to replace my five iron. Best decision ever. Towering shots, low chippy ones to get out of trouble, chip/putting from off the green. Does everything.
I play Cobra F8 one length. Playing with them for about a year and the game is so much simpler with them. I play 3, 4, 5 hybrids and 6 iron to pitching wedge at 37" and I reshafted my Cleveland wedges to 35.5". I have no plans to go back to variable length clubs.
I've played Wishon Sterlings since their introduction about 3 years ago. Set up at an 8-iron length. I'll never, ever go back to variable-length clubs.
I have a whole set of one length irons (3h-LW) and absolutely love them! Took a little while to get used to but I have consistently played way better than I used to. But like I have said most reviews don’t completely do it justice because you just simply have to play them quite a bit to fully get good with them. Huge thanks to you though for consistently reviewing the one lengths! Not too many do 👍🏻
@@Hunter-zp5hd I actually still play them! I’ve tried standard irons a couple times since and still love the one lengths over them. The biggest noticeable difference is consistency with them. I’m 100% sold on the concept. My only wish is they get a little better with tractectories on the extreme ends (like 4i,5i, and the wedges) but you learn to adapt to those.
I'm using one iron Blackstones and at 1st I didn't lie them but now I love them. 1 thing I don't like is how they use degrees as their club instead of traditional numbers. But every club is the exact same weight and length
I really really loved my forged tour one length irons actually your review on them swayed me to purchase them to begin with however i did cut the shatfs down a bit in the wedges so pitching wedge and gap wedge i cut down to like standard variable length but 9 iron to 4 iron all one length and loved the consistency of feeling the same length in all irons and only seeing the lofts chsnge was a load off the old shoulders great review boyzzzz dan and mark goin to funky town?!?!?! Love it yes please
I currently own a set of Cobra F7 5 - PW one length irons. Once I learned to play them my game has improved. I've dropped my handicap from 14 to 11.2 in two seasons. I had several rounds this summer where I was close to breaking 80. Admittedly, I do not play one length wedges and I do feel that the 5 iron comes out rather flat, but it does not offset all the benefits I have found.I'm thinking of upgrading my set and will test the Forged Tec. I like its looks and I've bought into its concept
Just went all out and bought some f9 one lengths. Will be playing them all year no turning back so we shall see what progress I make this year. Normally play 50+ rounds a year here in wisconsin so come spring it's game on
One length went in the bag as of last week. A change from 695MB's. There is an adjustment period going on for sure, but I feel like my strike is on the improve. I'm naturally a low ball flight so it kind of seems pretty similar in the 4 and 5 irons. Gapping possibly a little tight. Happy to get some extra height with the shorter irons as my course is a links style. Spin seems to be on par with what you show on the video. I've seen my 7 iron spin off the front of a green to a tight pin. Just adjustment time. Happy with the decision overall to go the way I've gone.
I just got the new 2022 cobra forged irons. I got fitted for it and it’s amazing how much distance I added and feel. But it’s not even out yet but looking to get it by early April
I play the one length f7s. I went to 4 and 5 hybrids because I just needed some help getting the ball in the air. Very low trajectories for me in the lower lofted clubs. I did go to the one length f8 hybrids and they fixed the issue.
I bought a second hand set of Cobra F7 one length irons. Liked them a lot. I sold them and bought the F9 one length. I am getting pretty good with them now. They seem like about 1/2 a club longer than the F7. I have tried some graphite shafted SL irons from Milford golf in Oz. Very similar to F7 Cobra at 50% the price. If you don't have a high swing speed, go 5-GW and a SL hybrid instead of the 4 iron.
I have gamed the Cobra F9 One Length clubs for the last 10 months, and last week received a new 5-GW set of the Forged Tec One Length clubs. Obviously I like the One Length concept enough to buy a second set. Why two sets? The F9's will stay at my US home and the Forged Tec clubs will stay at my Scotland home, primarily because after a week with the Forged Tec's I find they fly a bit lower than the F9's. I should also note that after a year of using the F9s with Lamkin Mid-Sized grips, I have re-gripped both sets with medium sized JumboMax St8Tec grips. On the other clubs in my bag--TM M4 driver and HiLoft 3-wood, M4 19° hybrid, and two Forged TM wedges, I installed the JumboMax UltraLite grips which I thanks gives me a bit more sense of the club head. The fat grips have reduced my grip pressure resulting in greater accuracy and length from a better release. I'm an older (70), 17 handicapper who played off 12 to 13 for most of my golfing days when I was younger, and hope to get back down to how I used to play. I highly recommend the one length clubs for the all reasons that Cobra has stated although the most compelling reason is one swing--all irons. I should add that I love change in general, while many golfers, notably Mark Crossfied 😎, are generally resistant to change. When Cobra comes out with wedges in one length that are a good match for the Forged Tec irons, I intend to change over my 54° and 58° wedges as well. I understand that Cobra is targeting January or February for the launch of these.
I use one length in 6i, 5i, 3ut. I found that the 4i didn't gap enough from the 5. Then I play 5 wood, 3 wood, driver at the top end. At the low end I game mizuno jpx921's to 7-PW and 3 t20 wedges (50, 55, 60). It took me two years to design my frankenbag.
I play Wilson FG Tour blades and ive shortened the 7 to 3 irons to 7 iron length. 8 to pitching wedge ive left as standard. Perfect combo of soft blade and playable long irons
I own the F9 Speedback One Lengths. 6i - SW (One Length) but I went with the standard length F9 Speedback 4H and 5H. I've had no trouble gaming the one lengths. I got the OL because I have a bad back and have trouble with short irons and they make them easy. When I tried the OL 5H, I had 0 gapping between that and the 6i, and only 9 yds between the 5i and the 6i, whereas there is 13 yds between the 7i and 6i. I never had any trouble with standard length hybrids so why change?
I love one length because I get more value out of my range sessions. I have one length from 4hybrid down to my lob wedge and it’s honestly the same exact same setup and swing for those 10 clubs. As a result I’ve been able to focus on my driver and 3-wood even more, now I’ don’t have a weak club in the bag. my woods are longer and more accurate than ever, and I’ve been able to drop 7 strokes off my game in a span of 5 months. The concept is simple yet so effective, why more people don’t get into one length is beyond me.
Really enjoyed the review. I haven’t tried one length, but I have used arccos this year. I agree with your comment that golfers are nervous about the accuracy of the numbers. However, my main issue is that arccos seems to miss a few shots, and correcting this afterwards is a hassle. Also, it does not seem to recognize penalties (or I haven’t found out how to correct for them). It’s a good system, but maybe too much data.
New to golf, started playing about 1.5 years ago, purchased a set of regular clubs (game improvement type) about 6 months later switched to One Length, Cobra F9. Yes I had to get a bit used to the long 8i, 9i & wedges, but the confidence I felt hitting 4i & 5i was well worth it. Now that I've been using the OL for almost 1 year I'm absolutely convinced it was the right choice for me, it truly is exactly the same swing for all clubs. i do sometimes 'choke-up' on the SW & my 60, but I don't find that difficult at all. Yes the flight is lower on the 4i & 5i (comparing to traditional clubs), and the flight on the wedges is very high, but I don't see how this has a negative impact, since the yardage and gapping works very well for me. Like 99% of us, golf is our hobby, we will never make money playing this great game, so if the gaping is 8yds vs. 10 yds from traditional clubs this will certainly not affect my overall satisfaction of playing the game. I would not recommend one length to an experienced low handicap golfer, no reason to re-learn, but I would most certainly recommend all new golfers to at least try them. cheers!!
I bought Cobra F-Max one length just on a whim and have shot some of my best rounds with them (I also play Ping G25's}. You have to practice with them as the least and most lofted clubs just feel odd at first. And you have to trust the tech. Note the F-Max lie angles are all the same (Speed Zone aren't) and I was standing farther from the ball with the five iron at first when I shouldn't have. Gotta remember one setup for all. I highly recommend at least trying one length. They're fun.
I understand the concept and would like a set of one length irons from the 7 to 4 irons. But I don't really have a problem hitting my short irons so they would not appeal to me as I would always be scared I would hit a wedge and it would just fly too far.
So far loving the one length world. Mine is a bit different tho as I went one length 5-7, hybrid, and utility iron and regular length 8-wedges. Had to do some gap fits to get those worked out but overall loving that setup.
I think you hit the nail on the head...I don't want to relearn short irons ( the strength of my game ) to improve the part of my game I use the least ( long irons ). Golf is a game of trade offs I guess.
Played the Sterlings and liked them but had problems with 9-SW with pulling the all left of target every time . Went back to fitter and he bent them as much as he could but I still couldn't hit them straight so I sold them after 6 months of trying !
Mark, I played the F8 one length and with my swing speed I couldn't get the flight for any carry. I switched to the F-Max ultralight and gained 15 yards per club (7 iron 125yds-140yds now).
Gaping seems to be a swing speed issue - Alex Etches (hits the ball like a train) got matching gaps through the set. I find the bunching you described at the top end, so play 4, 6,
I currently have Wishon Sterling single-length irons in my bag, from 5i to LW, all in 8i length. I had the 4i as well, but it seems the one-length system only gets you so much with respect to consistency; I just wasn't as good with it as I am with my hybrids.
Great video Mark. One length clubs can only be called "GAME IMPROVEMENT" clubs because you can not cheat physics. The club head speed of any club increases with length because the head is farther away from the pivot point. No matter how they configure the club.
@Just Hustle Speed is the most important factor when controlling the distance of each club...but I understand that if you hit it higher or lower etc...the distance will change. My point was, if you have 35" club as a PW and 35" 7 iron at it's normal length, it is really hard to get a longer PW to hit the spots it would as a shorter(more normal) PW. In a nutshell, things that are farther away are going faster than things that are closer to you with the same swing.
My 2nd set of One Length (wore out the 2017 Forged Ones, 4-GW), makeup 5-GW SZ 4 RAD Speed...all w/KBS stock steel, std length and lie. Have shot or beaten my age (I'm in my 70's) with one length irons 4 straight years. Love them...I'm a single plane swinger. I was disappointed they discontinued the Forged Ones for all but Bryson. Looks like I should give the Forged Tec Ones a try!
I’m new to golf and get the concept of one lengths. 2 questions 1) would you develop your skills quicker through only dealing with one length rather than progressive lengths 2) why the length of a 7 iron? Surely it should be dependent on height and arm span of each individual?
I dropped about 6 shots off handicap this year down to 6 index. At first the shorter clubs bothered me, and I choked up. By end of summer, same grip and same setup every shot...so easy.
What do I like: 1. Practice with 1 club (same as every other club) reduce time at range. 2. Consistent setup. Every club. Easy. No thinking makes it easier to focus on hitting shots. 3. Arccos erases all doubts. If you center the hit, you know exactly what to expect. Overall....game changer.
Play One Length F-Max Irons, subbed out the 4 and 5 iron for the F8 One Length Hybrid (probably my best club in bag), do struggle with getting height and also grip down on the wedges alot so contemplating tinkering them out!
I tried the F7 or F8 one length a few years back. I liked it in the longer irons, but I would want conventional 8-GW. I couldn't control the left shot.
I swapped to a one length hybrid, and I love it. Seriously considering going to a full one length set. Would love to see a head to head between F9 and Forge Tec please.
I have Cobra Forged Tec OL Black irons in 5-GW and normal length 54 and 58 wedges. I love them and have dropped my handicap by 6 strokes. But the longer irons do have a lower ball flight. If they can fix that, one length would be perfect.
I've got a set of Cobra F8 one length irons. I played everything up to 7 iron this year. I'm still training on 6,5, and 4. I hit the 6 and 5 much more reliably now (some of that is swing technique improvement I'm getting from watching your channel, by the way), but I get just about nothing between 5 and 4. As I get older, I'm finding a 4 iron of any stripe to be harder to hit, so I actually game a Cobra F8 hybrid, which I can easily get up and out where a 4 iron should be (190-195 yards). Next season (I'm in upstate New York, so the season may not start for another 6 months. meh), I'm going to play the set except for the 4. Wasn't fitted for them, but then I've never had a fitting. I bought these from one of my golf buds who bought 'em and hated 'em. Cheap.
I have 4 thru pw in f8 one length and I don't ever hit my 4 iron I hit to low also probably going to replace it with a one length 4 hybrid. Now I love my 5 iron really well for some reason one of my go to clubs.
I played the cobra forged one length, and i loved them. the only issue i had was that eventually after playing more and more, i needed different shafts which meant a custom fitting. I would play one length again without any issue, but I got custom fit into mizuno JPX 919 tour irons. I loved the one length, and it was the second performer behind the mizunos. the only difference was that I liked the height better with the mizunos in the longer irons, and I found it easier to shape the golf ball. I sold my set to a friend, and he has gone from a 24 handicap to a 16 since getting them. They are so easy to use since you don't have to change any other part of your swing. I think people should look into them more, but make sure that you get the right shaft and weight to help with your ball flight. Otherwise those forged one irons were incredible.
I have been playing with one length irons for almost a year now, F8s and won my first 2 gold leadfs with them, i play off 8 and bought 4 to gap but only use 4 to PW, plus 3 other wedges. Also bought the utility 3 iron which is adjustable and I love it. Did take a while to get used to the look in the longer irons and wedge but once you see the numbers it helps you to trust, Not for everyone
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I started golfing last year at 35 years old, I bought the Fmax one length as my very first set ever. The idea of only learning one swing really appealed to me and it still does. I’m planning on getting properly fitted for the ForgeTech in the near future. Cheers from Raleigh, North Carolina!
Dear Mark, I was an aspiring junior reaching single handicap at 12 and was at 4 by the time I was 14. It was like set in stone that I would one day work in golf. Then it just stopped for me, I struggled in tournaments and stopped to reach the goals my pro set for me. He blamed it on me, that I didn't practice enough although I spent so many nights at the chipping and pitching area and biking home way past dark. I grew hatred to the game and although I never started playing any other sports I just couldn't get anywhere, especially mentally. Now I'm 32 and I'm still struggling to pick up a golf club without getting bad feelings. Still, every year or two I watch a couple of your videos and I get really excited about playing again, all the good memories return. But usually just 1-2 hours at the range or 9 holes completely drains me and my thoughts always circle around what could have been had I only been better. I wish I could somehow return to the game and feel excited about playing and accepting that I might never play at the level I did back then - but still go out and enjoy hitting the ball without taking it so seriously. Do you have any experience of this or any suggestions for how I could find my love for the game again? Best regards /Hans, Sweden
In England you can receive CBT for free on our national health system which can basically help rewire your mind to think more positively about playing golf. Anything like that in Sweden? I'm guessing you've tried a lot of simpler things to try to help (playing with 5 clubs, playing pitch and putt, joining a society etc.)? I'm sure 9 holes with the muppets would put a smile on anyone's face...what about it MC?
I'd read zen golf. Very helpful.
I'll do it!
This years Cobra Forged TEC are flat out gorgeous. No gimmicky design flourishes, just a purpose-built tool and a clean design. I love it.
I have the F8 one length iron set, I love them. I am a 14 handicap. I am 56 years old. I love the consistency, distance and feel. Cobra has won me over. I am not going to be a professional. I do not play the tips, I play men's tees, and I have fun playing weekly with my friends. I like the fact that I CAN use a 4 and 5 iron and actually hit them, with Cobra one lengths. New irons have gotten so long, that I had to replace the longer irons with hybrids. I like the fact with Cobra, I can use a full set of irons and hit my distances. They work for me. Thanks Mark for all your videos, I appreciate and respect your insight!
Have played the King forged one-length for about 4 years and I love them.
I've been using the King F7 one length irons (5-GW) for about two years. Really improved my greens in regulation numbers, now averaging 13-14 per round, which has helped me reduce my handicap from 7 to 3. I'd like to try the new Forged TEC one length y to see what improvements Cobra have made.
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How long were you playing before you got one length? Cheers Pete
@@peterw6791 Roughly 50 years.
@@danamcqueen6982 cheers. I am trying to ask a few people to see if one length works! Thanks for your reply
@@peterw6791 the wedges are a bit weird at first, but that doesn’t last very long.
@@danamcqueen6982 I got mine today and took them to the range. The wedges and short irons were easy to hit and dead consistent but the long irons I struggled with kept thinning them because my brain couldn't compute the short length! I suppose they are all different! 😁
Hi Mark been playing these one length irons and hybrids for about 2 years now gone from 7 handicap to 2 with them. Been playing golf for about 30 years now and never had a hole in one until I got these irons now I’ve had 2 hole in ones. Best things ever invented
I play Cobra one-length irons. Love them. Don’t think I’ll go back to regular irons. I use a one-length ‘hybrid’ 4 and it’s amazing.
I have been playing one lengths for nearly two years now, and I love them! I’m 50 years old and shoot low 80’s from the men’s tees. One lengths have simplified and improved my game. I’ll never buy another set set that isn’t one length.
In my bag:
Cobra F8 driver 🐍
GX7 driver (my primary for accuracy)
Cobra F8 3 wood with one length shaft 🐍
Cobra F8 One Length 3 & 4 hybrids 🐍
Cobra F7 One Length 5-GW 🐍
TaylorMade Spider Tour putter
Someone who’s 60?
've been olaying rhe cobra king forged tec black one for 1 year now. Hcp went down from 12 to 6. I' ve never felt so confident behind the ball. Just love the concept : 1 set of clubs, 1 swing! Can't wait to see the 2020 models.
I have the same clubs. Dropped my handicap from a 18 to a 11-12.
I've been playing the Tom Wishon sterling single length irons for 3 years. Absolutely love them. Not a fan of the cobra line. The whole point of single length is same swing, setup, ball position, etc. The cobra have the same length but different weight shafts and different lie angles so the clubs don't feel or look the same.
King F7 for me, love them. Feel normal now and I’m much more consistent with strike. 5 all the way through to a 60 degree wedge. I’d have reservations about switching back to regular irons just the same as many would have going to one length.
I’ve been playing the F8 one length for two seasons now. My only gripe is the chunky ness of the sole and a tad bit heavy. I love the concept of not worrying about ball position. Since I only play maybe once a week and don’t have time to practice, it just keep things simple. I’ve gone from a 10hcp to an 8hcp without having to practice. It works for me.
I am using one length and really like them. Wishing I went one length on my wedges too.
Glad to hear somebody say this. Just ordered my wedges same length along with the cobra one
Been playing one lenght for 5 years now. Just bought the Forged tec black one lenght irons. And the 4 utility adjustable iron.
Great review per usual! I've gamed the Cobra King Forged One length for a year now and I don't see myself going back to variable length anytime soon. One of the best things about one length clubs is that it cuts my practice time in half. I can work on shot shapes and accuracy bucket after bucket without losing sleep that I didn't hit every club above my 6 iron during my practice session. Another plus for me is that I like the simplicity of the setup throughout the set. This translates seamlessly onto the course and helps me by having one less thing to think about before I hit my shot. And the last thing I should mention is that the clubs are stunning! Great quality through and through. I'm so glad I tried the one length because prior to doing so, I had never tried a Cobra product. Now they are the first company I look at when I am in the market for a new club. Their quality and price really can't be beat.
Same for me...
Haven't gamed one length irons because I've had the same clubs for 11 years and don't have the cash to try and change regularly. Plus you taught us that it's all about the player!
I purchased f8 one length this year. Love them. A fairly new senior golfer very consistent for me. Reliable if you commit. Not complicated. 😊
Love that you are doing inside and outside testing 👍
in response to your comment about not meeting anyone who "needs" one-length : I'm 6'6" with back issues - had one disc surgery and have some other issues. Cobra made me a set of graphite one length irons and wedges at plus 2 inches. This makes the short clubs what would seem ridiculously long to most people but has greatly reduced the amount of back pain I have after playing. I only play irons up to the 7 - and I love them. Having said that I tried the one length hybrids and really disliked them for basically the same reason - I want to be able to stand as straight up as possible. After a demo day a few weeks ago (before the Coronavirus killed events) I went to Taylormade Sim Max Hybrids at + 3/4 inch. They blended nicely into my Cobra irons and woods. Thanks for your reviews.
Love your guys reviews on one length! Have no bias against them (which so many others do). I game one length F8s. Absolutely love them hands down best clubs I’ve ever played. As for the top end, I game up to a 5i (22.5*) and then use a 3hybrid (19*) as a substitute for a 4 iron. Ends up tapping the clubs perfectly then that way I’ve found.
I gamed the original F7 One Length with a borrowed set.
Fell in love with the entire One Length concept.
If I could afford new irons I would be shopping for these
I have been using the “Cobra King Forged Tec Black” one lengths for the last year. They really helped me improve my all round long and short Iron play
I picked up a set of the Cobra F-8 one length irons this year. I really enjoyed hitting them and will be keeping them around for the foreseeable future 👍
Just bought the black forged TEC after playing with some home made cut down clubs, so excited!
Ive played a set when i accidentally brought my sons bag. The set consists of 4 uron through gap wedge. They are easy to hit no adjustment for ball placement and stance width. I use a single plane swing which makes it more natural. Distances are almost the same as my variable length i500s but the ball flight is lower in the longer irons and higher on the shorter irons.
Great video! This covers all aspects of these clubs, from looks, to feel, and performance! My current set of clubs are the Cobra Forged Tec from 2018, standard variable length with the Recoil 660 graphite shaft. My handicap is normally around 6-9, and once in a while it drops to 4-5, so I can hit the ball fairly well. I love the feel of my current clubs, but do struggle at times with my distance irons.
I just ordered a set of one length King Forged Tec irons with the Recoil 460 ESX shafts and am looking forward to them even more after watching this video! I ordered the 5-GW along with the one length Speedzone hybrids in 3 and 4. Once I get them and play them for a bit, I'll come back and give you my feedback.
how did these compare to your cobra forged tec 2018's after playing the new ones a while? thx in advance for any insight
I have one length hybrids for my 4 and 5 and one length 6i and driving iron ... absolutely love them !!! My 5h is my go to club of the deck . My 4h I use of the tee for those tight fairways ... give me so much confidence over the ball
I have played one length for 3 years now. I’ve been using arccos also which I could use help in understanding.
Hi Mark- I’ve been using Cobra F9’s since February and my handicap has dropped from a 23 to 16.5 over the summer. I had a tough time with my short game initially (as a number of people have expressed in the comments) so now my 4 iron thru PW are One Length and my Gap, 56 degree and SW are standard progressive length. The F9’s are great and much longer than my old clubs - 7 iron has gone from 150 to 165 yards which was a nice surprise. To complete the package I ordered new driver and 3 wood combo that are 1 inch short which has really helped me keep it in the fairway.
Hi how long were you playing at 23 handicap before you dropped to 16.5?
I am looking at a set of one length and trying to gauge things.
Cheers Pete
How about blending these with regular at the lower end so that wedge to 8 feel like normal
I used Cobra one length irons, PW to 7 iron, there was a difference in distance, but 6 to 4 hybrid, all pretty much the same distance plus a flat flight!. I think that these irons/ hybrids need individual club customisations, to get the best from these!. Keep going Cobra!.
I originally made my own one length set with X hot Pro heads and PX 6.0 shafts and loved them. When cobra came out with theirs, I switched and they never felt or worked as well for me.
I am using Pinhawk irons for over 10 rounds. My consistency has improved. I now know if I hit a bad shot, the issue is with me and not the change of lengths or lie angles.
I have an old set of mizuno mp52s. Cut down the 6 & 5 iron to 7 iron length. Adjusted lie and added some ledtape. I then bought a cobra 4hybrid one length. Actually works brilliantly.
Could you go one length 4-7 then standard.8-pw for those of us who are confident with long irons?
I am on my second set of one length, current is 6 through pitching wedge Cobra F Max Gap wedge is Cobra F8. 4 and 5 hybrid are Pinhawk. All are 37.5 length and all are 62.5 lie. I went back to standard length Pings G25 after playing some GRIA Nova single length irons. Liked the Pings and played them for 5 + years. Went back to single length for control and the only clubs not single length are my Driver ,3 wood, and sand wedge. I use the Gap wedge like most use their sand wedge. For the touch shots around the green. My sand wedge is a one trick pony - sand trap.
Got the one length F-Max. Love them. Great for me with the confidence of the long irons. U are right they bleed into each other with my 5 iron and my 4 hybrid (f8 one length). Love the short game, I do grip down for the feely shots, but otherwise I try to keep it all the same.
Loving the videos. Keep them coming
I put the one length 22 degree hybrid in my bag to replace my five iron. Best decision ever. Towering shots, low chippy ones to get out of trouble, chip/putting from off the green. Does everything.
I play Cobra F8 one length. Playing with them for about a year and the game is so much simpler with them. I play 3, 4, 5 hybrids and 6 iron to pitching wedge at 37" and I reshafted my Cleveland wedges to 35.5". I have no plans to go back to variable length clubs.
I've played Wishon Sterlings since their introduction about 3 years ago. Set up at an 8-iron length. I'll never, ever go back to variable-length clubs.
Ya, I will take the plunge this winter with my Cleveland irons. I will go between 6-7 iron length.
I have a whole set of one length irons (3h-LW) and absolutely love them! Took a little while to get used to but I have consistently played way better than I used to. But like I have said most reviews don’t completely do it justice because you just simply have to play them quite a bit to fully get good with them. Huge thanks to you though for consistently reviewing the one lengths! Not too many do 👍🏻
I’m curious…after 3 years are you still using your one length irons and are you completely sold on the idea, or have you went back to normal clubs?
@@Hunter-zp5hd I actually still play them! I’ve tried standard irons a couple times since and still love the one lengths over them. The biggest noticeable difference is consistency with them. I’m 100% sold on the concept. My only wish is they get a little better with tractectories on the extreme ends (like 4i,5i, and the wedges) but you learn to adapt to those.
I'm using one iron Blackstones and at 1st I didn't lie them but now I love them. 1 thing I don't like is how they use degrees as their club instead of traditional numbers. But every club is the exact same weight and length
I really really loved my forged tour one length irons actually your review on them swayed me to purchase them to begin with however i did cut the shatfs down a bit in the wedges so pitching wedge and gap wedge i cut down to like standard variable length but 9 iron to 4 iron all one length and loved the consistency of feeling the same length in all irons and only seeing the lofts chsnge was a load off the old shoulders great review boyzzzz dan and mark goin to funky town?!?!?! Love it yes please
I currently own a set of Cobra F7 5 - PW one length irons. Once I learned to play them my game has improved. I've dropped my handicap from 14 to 11.2 in two seasons. I had several rounds this summer where I was close to breaking 80. Admittedly, I do not play one length wedges and I do feel that the 5 iron comes out rather flat, but it does not offset all the benefits I have found.I'm thinking of upgrading my set and will test the Forged Tec. I like its looks and I've bought into its concept
You must be fitted properly with one length, priority being the gapping. A must.
Just went all out and bought some f9 one lengths. Will be playing them all year no turning back so we shall see what progress I make this year. Normally play 50+ rounds a year here in wisconsin so come spring it's game on
@Just Hustle made a little change since I could not get used to the wedges being that long. So I'm playing 5-9 single length
One length went in the bag as of last week. A change from 695MB's. There is an adjustment period going on for sure, but I feel like my strike is on the improve. I'm naturally a low ball flight so it kind of seems pretty similar in the 4 and 5 irons. Gapping possibly a little tight. Happy to get some extra height with the shorter irons as my course is a links style. Spin seems to be on par with what you show on the video. I've seen my 7 iron spin off the front of a green to a tight pin. Just adjustment time. Happy with the decision overall to go the way I've gone.
I just got the new 2022 cobra forged irons. I got fitted for it and it’s amazing how much distance I added and feel. But it’s not even out yet but looking to get it by early April
I play the one length f7s. I went to 4 and 5 hybrids because I just needed some help getting the ball in the air. Very low trajectories for me in the lower lofted clubs. I did go to the one length f8 hybrids and they fixed the issue.
I bought a second hand set of Cobra F7 one length irons. Liked them a lot. I sold them and bought the F9 one length. I am getting pretty good with them now. They seem like about 1/2 a club longer than the F7. I have tried some graphite shafted SL irons from Milford golf in Oz. Very similar to F7 Cobra at 50% the price. If you don't have a high swing speed, go 5-GW and a SL hybrid instead of the 4 iron.
changed to one-length 3 years ago and it dramatically reduced my handicap. Looking to refresh my cobra one-lengths this year with these most likely
I haven’t tried one-length because Mizuno does not have a one-length model.
A club fitter should be able to build this for you. A friend in the USA got this done with Mizunos
Hi Max , I'll sell you a nice sharp hacksaw .
And I haven't bought Mizunos because they don't have single length irons
I have gamed the Cobra F9 One Length clubs for the last 10 months, and last week received a new 5-GW set of the Forged Tec One Length clubs. Obviously I like the One Length concept enough to buy a second set. Why two sets? The F9's will stay at my US home and the Forged Tec clubs will stay at my Scotland home, primarily because after a week with the Forged Tec's I find they fly a bit lower than the F9's. I should also note that after a year of using the F9s with Lamkin Mid-Sized grips, I have re-gripped both sets with medium sized JumboMax St8Tec grips. On the other clubs in my bag--TM M4 driver and HiLoft 3-wood, M4 19° hybrid, and two Forged TM wedges, I installed the JumboMax UltraLite grips which I thanks gives me a bit more sense of the club head. The fat grips have reduced my grip pressure resulting in greater accuracy and length from a better release. I'm an older (70), 17 handicapper who played off 12 to 13 for most of my golfing days when I was younger, and hope to get back down to how I used to play. I highly recommend the one length clubs for the all reasons that Cobra has stated although the most compelling reason is one swing--all irons. I should add that I love change in general, while many golfers, notably Mark Crossfied 😎, are generally resistant to change. When Cobra comes out with wedges in one length that are a good match for the Forged Tec irons, I intend to change over my 54° and 58° wedges as well. I understand that Cobra is targeting January or February for the launch of these.
I would try them, but haven't been in the market for new irons since Cobra came up with one-length. A 4-hybrid in one-length are tempting.
I use one length in 6i, 5i, 3ut. I found that the 4i didn't gap enough from the 5. Then I play 5 wood, 3 wood, driver at the top end. At the low end I game mizuno jpx921's to 7-PW and 3 t20 wedges (50, 55, 60). It took me two years to design my frankenbag.
I play Wilson FG Tour blades and ive shortened
the 7 to 3 irons
to 7 iron length.
8 to pitching wedge ive left as standard.
Perfect combo of soft blade and playable long irons
I have not played one length but they are gonna be tested this winter for sure
I have these clubs. It's amazing how little distance you lose even if you thin it off the bottom groove. Thin to win!
I own the F9 Speedback One Lengths. 6i - SW (One Length) but I went with the standard length F9 Speedback 4H and 5H. I've had no trouble gaming the one lengths. I got the OL because I have a bad back and have trouble with short irons and they make them easy. When I tried the OL 5H, I had 0 gapping between that and the 6i, and only 9 yds between the 5i and the 6i, whereas there is 13 yds between the 7i and 6i. I never had any trouble with standard length hybrids so why change?
I love one length because I get more value out of my range sessions. I have one length from 4hybrid down to my lob wedge and it’s honestly the same exact same setup and swing for those 10 clubs. As a result I’ve been able to focus on my driver and 3-wood even more, now I’ don’t have a weak club in the bag. my woods are longer and more accurate than ever, and I’ve been able to drop 7 strokes off my game in a span of 5 months. The concept is simple yet so effective, why more people don’t get into one length is beyond me.
Yesssss.. I've been waiting for this review. I currently have been using the one length f7 for the past 2 years. Looking for an upgrade. 😁😍
Really enjoyed the review. I haven’t tried one length, but I have used arccos this year. I agree with your comment that golfers are nervous about the accuracy of the numbers. However, my main issue is that arccos seems to miss a few shots, and correcting this afterwards is a hassle. Also, it does not seem to recognize penalties (or I haven’t found out how to correct for them). It’s a good system, but maybe too much data.
New to golf, started playing about 1.5 years ago, purchased a set of regular clubs (game improvement type) about 6 months later switched to One Length, Cobra F9. Yes I had to get a bit used to the long 8i, 9i & wedges, but the confidence I felt hitting 4i & 5i was well worth it. Now that I've been using the OL for almost 1 year I'm absolutely convinced it was the right choice for me, it truly is exactly the same swing for all clubs. i do sometimes 'choke-up' on the SW & my 60, but I don't find that difficult at all. Yes the flight is lower on the 4i & 5i (comparing to traditional clubs), and the flight on the wedges is very high, but I don't see how this has a negative impact, since the yardage and gapping works very well for me. Like 99% of us, golf is our hobby, we will never make money playing this great game, so if the gaping is 8yds vs. 10 yds from traditional clubs this will certainly not affect my overall satisfaction of playing the game. I would not recommend one length to an experienced low handicap golfer, no reason to re-learn, but I would most certainly recommend all new golfers to at least try them. cheers!!
I absolutely love my F8 forged TEC
I get around 210 with my 5 iron and 220 with the 4 iron. I’m not sure about the e ball flight you’re mentioning about because I love the flight.
Love them, took a bit to get used to but so easy to hit a long way
I bought Cobra F-Max one length just on a whim and have shot some of my best rounds with them (I also play Ping G25's}. You have to practice with them as the least and most lofted clubs just feel odd at first. And you have to trust the tech. Note the F-Max lie angles are all the same (Speed Zone aren't) and I was standing farther from the ball with the five iron at first when I shouldn't have. Gotta remember one setup for all. I highly recommend at least trying one length. They're fun.
I tried the one length last year,played 5rounds with them. I shot my best round ever. It took a couple of rounds to get used to
I understand the concept and would like a set of one length irons from the 7 to 4 irons. But I don't really have a problem hitting my short irons so they would not appeal to me as I would always be scared I would hit a wedge and it would just fly too far.
Not enough distance difference in the long irons for me.I guess thats what shaft length does.. Great vid guys. Thanks..
Got sterling irons, they are amazing!
So far loving the one length world. Mine is a bit different tho as I went one length 5-7, hybrid, and utility iron and regular length 8-wedges. Had to do some gap fits to get those worked out but overall loving that setup.
I remember trying one length Tiger Shark irons over thirty five years ago.
I always thought of trying standard length till you got past the 7 iron and just using the shorter long irons to make them a bit easier to hit.
I think you hit the nail on the head...I don't want to relearn short irons ( the strength of my game ) to improve the part of my game I use the least ( long irons ). Golf is a game of trade offs I guess.
2 years now! Love them. Must get them fitted so to gap them correctly.
love my cobra one length, all for making the game easier... when are these available??
They are available already, for about 2 years now.
@@milanboskovic9618 no these are the new ones for 2020. Not sure when they're out tho
There out not I've just bought a set last week
Played the Sterlings and liked them but had problems with 9-SW with pulling the all left of target every time .
Went back to fitter and he bent them as much as he could but I still couldn't hit them straight so I sold them after 6 months of trying !
Thank you thank you thank you! I e been waiting for a review on these since this new model surfaced!
Mark, I played the F8 one length and with my swing speed I couldn't get the flight for any carry. I switched to the F-Max ultralight and gained 15 yards per club (7 iron 125yds-140yds now).
Gaping seems to be a swing speed issue - Alex Etches (hits the ball like a train) got matching gaps through the set. I find the bunching you described at the top end, so play 4, 6,
I currently have Wishon Sterling single-length irons in my bag, from 5i to LW, all in 8i length. I had the 4i as well, but it seems the one-length system only gets you so much with respect to consistency; I just wasn't as good with it as I am with my hybrids.
Great video Mark. One length clubs can only be called "GAME IMPROVEMENT" clubs because you can not cheat physics.
The club head speed of any club increases with length because the head is farther away from the pivot point. No matter how they configure the club.
@Just Hustle Speed is the most important factor when controlling the distance of each club...but I understand that if you hit it higher or lower etc...the distance will change. My point was, if you have 35" club as a PW and 35" 7 iron at it's normal length, it is really hard to get a longer PW to hit the spots it would as a shorter(more normal) PW. In a nutshell, things that are farther away are going faster than things that are closer to you with the same swing.
With custom fit/built shafts one length clubs are amazing. the low flight and gapping issues are removed.
My 2nd set of One Length (wore out the 2017 Forged Ones, 4-GW), makeup 5-GW SZ 4 RAD Speed...all w/KBS stock steel, std length and lie. Have shot or beaten my age (I'm in my 70's) with one length irons 4 straight years. Love them...I'm a single plane swinger. I was disappointed they discontinued the Forged Ones for all but Bryson. Looks like I should give the Forged Tec Ones a try!
I’m new to golf and get the concept of one lengths.
2 questions
1) would you develop your skills quicker through only dealing with one length rather than progressive lengths 2) why the length of a 7 iron? Surely it should be dependent on height and arm span of each individual?
Should be the length of YOUR 7 iron. For some people that's 37.5, others 37 etc. You should be fit for them to your specs
Heck yes. I am gaming one length. Started last year and dropped a ton of strokes off the game. Can’t wait for year 2.
I dropped about 6 shots off handicap this year down to 6 index. At first the shorter clubs bothered me, and I choked up. By end of summer, same grip and same setup every shot...so easy.
What do I like:
1. Practice with 1 club (same as every other club) reduce time at range.
2. Consistent setup. Every club. Easy. No thinking makes it easier to focus on hitting shots.
3. Arccos erases all doubts. If you center the hit, you know exactly what to expect.
Overall....game changer.
A lot of badgers this weekend gotta love soft greens.
Play One Length F-Max Irons, subbed out the 4 and 5 iron for the F8 One Length Hybrid (probably my best club in bag), do struggle with getting height and also grip down on the wedges alot so contemplating tinkering them out!
I tried the F7 or F8 one length a few years back. I liked it in the longer irons, but I would want conventional 8-GW. I couldn't control the left shot.
I'm going to try it. Might be moving from Mizuno! So the feel is going to have to be great.
I swapped to a one length hybrid, and I love it. Seriously considering going to a full one length set. Would love to see a head to head between F9 and Forge Tec please.
I have Cobra Forged Tec OL Black irons in 5-GW and normal length 54 and 58 wedges. I love them and have dropped my handicap by 6 strokes. But the longer irons do have a lower ball flight. If they can fix that, one length would be perfect.
I've got a set of Cobra F8 one length irons.
I played everything up to 7 iron this year. I'm still training on 6,5, and 4. I hit the 6 and 5 much more reliably now (some of that is swing technique improvement I'm getting from watching your channel, by the way), but I get just about nothing between 5 and 4. As I get older, I'm finding a 4 iron of any stripe to be harder to hit, so I actually game a Cobra F8 hybrid, which I can easily get up and out where a 4 iron should be (190-195 yards).
Next season (I'm in upstate New York, so the season may not start for another 6 months. meh), I'm going to play the set except for the 4.
Wasn't fitted for them, but then I've never had a fitting. I bought these from one of my golf buds who bought 'em and hated 'em. Cheap.
I have 4 thru pw in f8 one length and I don't ever hit my 4 iron I hit to low also probably going to replace it with a one length 4 hybrid. Now I love my 5 iron really well for some reason one of my go to clubs.
I played the cobra forged one length, and i loved them. the only issue i had was that eventually after playing more and more, i needed different shafts which meant a custom fitting. I would play one length again without any issue, but I got custom fit into mizuno JPX 919 tour irons. I loved the one length, and it was the second performer behind the mizunos. the only difference was that I liked the height better with the mizunos in the longer irons, and I found it easier to shape the golf ball. I sold my set to a friend, and he has gone from a 24 handicap to a 16 since getting them. They are so easy to use since you don't have to change any other part of your swing. I think people should look into them more, but make sure that you get the right shaft and weight to help with your ball flight. Otherwise those forged one irons were incredible.
I play f8 forged one length and I love them.
I have been playing with one length irons for almost a year now, F8s and won my first 2 gold leadfs with them, i play off 8 and bought 4 to gap but only use 4 to PW, plus 3 other wedges. Also bought the utility 3 iron which is adjustable and I love it. Did take a while to get used to the look in the longer irons and wedge but once you see the numbers it helps you to trust, Not for everyone
Hi
What were you off before you got the one length? Cheers Pete
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Haven’t tried 1 length only because I’m still loving my current irons
Same here.