2:30 - Try this: Aurora/Cain, Celeste/Axel, Sebastian/Albus, Orion/Merlin, Agustus/Khorus - Khorus - Orion attacks Aidan, the hero in front also dies. Sebastian is not in the team, so Agustus' transformation will work, Isaac is useless. This team wins 100%. Astaroth is the most useless hero in the game. He only defends against physical attacks and has no significant attacks. He scales based on magic attack, so he's basically meant for a magic team. But then an Aurora is more appropriate if you need protection against physical attacks. - Relying on physical heroes on defense, all it takes is one Aurora, and sometimes she can kill the entire team single-handedly. I mean an equally strong team, not a weak team.
@@HeroWarsCentral No one uses Issac and Sebation on defence so they are perfectly fine to level and use as an attacking team, In my case i am using the team i already had leveled as defence and i am leveling Orion and Augustus to deal with Heidi/Amira teams which have been causing me trouble.
The prefix meta means beyond something. So a meta team would mean a team that goes beyond a simple team: for example, there is better synergy between heroes and/or the team is specialized for something.
"better synergy between heroes and/or the team is specialized for something" vs "most effective team available" - You made my day. - And it's a fact what the prefix "meta" means. It's pointless to argue about it...
No, this is not a rock-paper-scissors game. It is a combination game, but it is not rock-paper-scissors. Sometimes a hero's behavior completely changes depending on what other hero is next to him/her on the team, or what position he/she is in on the team. - If Yasmine is in the first position, she will hunt Corvus too... If she is further back, she won't. She's the same stone.
Why? Simply because it is too easy to win with Is/Seb and some challenges would make it more fun specially for a game mode that already became so boring for those players like you who already have 15+ heroes at red2.
This is probably server dependent to be fair. I use a magic team on defense with no problems; in fact my current Arena defense has both Aurora/Celeste on it and I'm sitting in 7th place with 9 successful defenses. I was #1 rank for over 10 hours before someone got me. Current team is Aurora/Celeste/Arachne/Polaris/Issac (khorus pet). I do switch it up from every so often, but I have no issues with defense 90% of the time. It got even better with the Frost Flag because it reduces both Isaac and Sebastian's skill, and allows my control hero's to pretty much turn the fight in my favor. So I would say it depends on the server, which kinds of teams you can use without too much issues.
@@HeroWarsCentral Not mine. Still sitting at 7th in Arena; all day now with my Aurora/Celeste. People who attacked me with Isaac ended up dropping him in later attacks, because I was still beating them. The trick is not to have Aurora and Celeste both doing magic damage quickly. So you take Cain off Aurora or you take the tank flag off her (to slow her ult). By the time Aurora gets going, Celeste is no longer doing damage because she's in healing mode and Arachne/Polaris starts doing work chewing through Sebastian's Ode to Serenity. Isaac eventually gets stunned or frozen. Polaris is already a soft counter to Isaac when her skill Northern Lights is active. Frost flag makes it even better.
is it? I keep getting smashed by polaris/nebula/amira or polaris/nebula/arachne. and they often use augustus too -orion with augustus doesn't hit anywhere as hard as this
either amira oneshots me or augustus pure dmg + a control hero breaks through my Isaac (I use classic Lol Osh team against magic). I can't see a way around it -oh yeah and Iris is sometimes a swap for augustus
4:36 - Don't you have Aurora and Heidi teams on your server so that all this physical attack stuff would be a problem for you? 🤭- Maybe Aurora-Isaac can be very useful in the defensive team.
No, Isaac and Heidi hard counters Aurora. Heidi is a problem but that's a completely different team than what I'm showing here. Aurora/Isaac is strictly worse in most situations (like all of these fights), but it's still a high win rate because of the Isaac/Sebastian.
@@HeroWarsCentral "No, Isaac and Heidi hard counters Aurora." - You suggested physical teams, that's what I wrote. You just wrote two heroes that you think are good against Aurora. Every hero has antagonist. Who are there next to these heroes? Team composition is more important. Your defensive team will be wiped out by the magical teams you think are bad. Aurora/Cain, Celeste/Axel, Orion/Merlin, Agustus/Albus, Dorian or Polaris - Khorus Aurora/Cain, Celeste/Axel, Heidi/Albus, Orion/Merlin, Dorian or Polaris - Khorus Aurora/Cain, Nebula, Celeste/Axel, Orion/Merlin, Agustus or Polaris or Dorian - Khorus
For non whales: don't listen to him. Just don't. Build this Team: Dante, Augustus, Orion, Neb, Helios (or Dorian) and enjoy the domination of your Server Arena. And don't forget to thank me later. If your Server is younger then 6 Months, nobody will have this 2 heros leveled up and if they do, they wont have Heidi. So this Combo is absolutly unbeatable without those 2 Heros and a Dante Counter, like Celeste or Heidi and nobody in the age of the first 6 months, will have those 3 ready at a competitive level.
When facing max heroes, your suggested team loses 100% to a certain 2 hero line.... 2 heroes can DESTROY that team every single time... concerning don't you think? and it is VERY commonly used.
@darkhorse5591 this video is about taking rank 1 in Arena and how easy it is because everyone is using mage teams. No idea why you're bringing up attacking into the wrong team, or defense at all. Real weird.
It's something you have said a lot, but how Asta/Axel is a counter to Iris ? How Axel could be better than Oliver for exemple ? Axel provides magic attack (useless for Asta) and armor, protects against oneshot (Iris won't oneshot). Oliver provides also armor but health instead of magic attack and heals Asta when his health is low. I really don't see the benefits of Axel.
Astaroth's shield is one of the worst ults in the game. It's combined damage, and only physical. It's worth about 1 or 2 basic auto attacks. Axel prevents one-shots from Dante from happening, causing Iris overall to be slow as cold syrup.
@@MrOnePieceRuffy maybe not ;) you never use Asta for his first skill which is way too weak. You use him for his revive ability (4th skill) or his overall stats that make him a good tank or his first artefact that gives armor. But not for his first useless skill...
@@HeroWarsCentral thanks for your answer. Ok, I understand your point but I wouldn't say that putting Axel on Asta will nullify Iris. Anyway, thanks for your video, as always.
imo defense is completely irrelevant these days there are like 3 teams that are relevant and can defeat each other, besides that other teams are a hot bag of irrelevant shit so dont give 2 shits about defense, put in 5 good heroes or 5 healers they are fucked anyways. issac, nebula and Sebastian are a must tho no debate about them
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Thank you so much, Charlie! 🌟🌟
Always nice to hear that it's been useful!
2:30 - Try this: Aurora/Cain, Celeste/Axel, Sebastian/Albus, Orion/Merlin, Agustus/Khorus - Khorus - Orion attacks Aidan, the hero in front also dies. Sebastian is not in the team, so Agustus' transformation will work, Isaac is useless. This team wins 100%.
Astaroth is the most useless hero in the game. He only defends against physical attacks and has no significant attacks. He scales based on magic attack, so he's basically meant for a magic team. But then an Aurora is more appropriate if you need protection against physical attacks. - Relying on physical heroes on defense, all it takes is one Aurora, and sometimes she can kill the entire team single-handedly. I mean an equally strong team, not a weak team.
No.
Gus and Orion are flavor of the month heroes and I will not suggest leveling them.
@@HeroWarsCentral No one uses Issac and Sebation on defence so they are perfectly fine to level and use as an attacking team, In my case i am using the team i already had leveled as defence and i am leveling Orion and Augustus to deal with Heidi/Amira teams which have been causing me trouble.
But if they level them first, who do they use on def? Bad mage heroes.
@@HeroWarsCentral "No." - 😀Ok.
@@HeroWarsCentral flavor of month? refer to my other comment
The prefix meta means beyond something. So a meta team would mean a team that goes beyond a simple team: for example, there is better synergy between heroes and/or the team is specialized for something.
no, it means "most effective team available"
That doesnt exist in this game, because it's all rock-paper-scissors.
"better synergy between heroes and/or the team is specialized for something" vs "most effective team available" - You made my day. - And it's a fact what the prefix "meta" means. It's pointless to argue about it...
No, this is not a rock-paper-scissors game. It is a combination game, but it is not rock-paper-scissors. Sometimes a hero's behavior completely changes depending on what other hero is next to him/her on the team, or what position he/she is in on the team. - If Yasmine is in the first position, she will hunt Corvus too... If she is further back, she won't. She's the same stone.
Why? Simply because it is too easy to win with Is/Seb and some challenges would make it more fun specially for a game mode that already became so boring for those players like you who already have 15+ heroes at red2.
I used the same 5 heroes to go from almost 100 to 1, that's why it was fun!
This is probably server dependent to be fair. I use a magic team on defense with no problems; in fact my current Arena defense has both Aurora/Celeste on it and I'm sitting in 7th place with 9 successful defenses. I was #1 rank for over 10 hours before someone got me. Current team is Aurora/Celeste/Arachne/Polaris/Issac (khorus pet). I do switch it up from every so often, but I have no issues with defense 90% of the time. It got even better with the Frost Flag because it reduces both Isaac and Sebastian's skill, and allows my control hero's to pretty much turn the fight in my favor.
So I would say it depends on the server, which kinds of teams you can use without too much issues.
Isaac EATS aurora/celeste teams, they make it an auto lose no matter who else is behind them!
@@HeroWarsCentral Not mine. Still sitting at 7th in Arena; all day now with my Aurora/Celeste. People who attacked me with Isaac ended up dropping him in later attacks, because I was still beating them.
The trick is not to have Aurora and Celeste both doing magic damage quickly. So you take Cain off Aurora or you take the tank flag off her (to slow her ult). By the time Aurora gets going, Celeste is no longer doing damage because she's in healing mode and Arachne/Polaris starts doing work chewing through Sebastian's Ode to Serenity. Isaac eventually gets stunned or frozen.
Polaris is already a soft counter to Isaac when her skill Northern Lights is active. Frost flag makes it even better.
is it? I keep getting smashed by polaris/nebula/amira or polaris/nebula/arachne. and they often use augustus too -orion with augustus doesn't hit anywhere as hard as this
either amira oneshots me or augustus pure dmg + a control hero breaks through my Isaac (I use classic Lol Osh team against magic). I can't see a way around it -oh yeah and Iris is sometimes a swap for augustus
I also see them use Heidi and/or Dorian.
huh? what's wrong with Aurora/Celeste/Seb?
Amira teams are counted by any fast attack team; she's not countered by Isaac. Try swapping out the Heidi for Nebula to see good results!
4:36 - Don't you have Aurora and Heidi teams on your server so that all this physical attack stuff would be a problem for you? 🤭- Maybe Aurora-Isaac can be very useful in the defensive team.
No, Isaac and Heidi hard counters Aurora. Heidi is a problem but that's a completely different team than what I'm showing here.
Aurora/Isaac is strictly worse in most situations (like all of these fights), but it's still a high win rate because of the Isaac/Sebastian.
@@HeroWarsCentral "No, Isaac and Heidi hard counters Aurora." - You suggested physical teams, that's what I wrote. You just wrote two heroes that you think are good against Aurora. Every hero has antagonist. Who are there next to these heroes? Team composition is more important.
Your defensive team will be wiped out by the magical teams you think are bad.
Aurora/Cain, Celeste/Axel, Orion/Merlin, Agustus/Albus, Dorian or Polaris - Khorus
Aurora/Cain, Celeste/Axel, Heidi/Albus, Orion/Merlin, Dorian or Polaris - Khorus
Aurora/Cain, Nebula, Celeste/Axel, Orion/Merlin, Agustus or Polaris or Dorian - Khorus
Thx Charlie
For non whales: don't listen to him. Just don't. Build this Team: Dante, Augustus, Orion, Neb, Helios (or Dorian) and enjoy the domination of your Server Arena. And don't forget to thank me later. If your Server is younger then 6 Months, nobody will have this 2 heros leveled up and if they do, they wont have Heidi. So this Combo is absolutly unbeatable without those 2 Heros and a Dante Counter, like Celeste or Heidi and nobody in the age of the first 6 months, will have those 3 ready at a competitive level.
good luck finding a good guild that wants to be competitive against OSH and Maestro.
Suggesting Helios in 2025
When facing max heroes, your suggested team loses 100% to a certain 2 hero line.... 2 heroes can DESTROY that team every single time... concerning don't you think? and it is VERY commonly used.
feel like it's worth mentioning my A and triple A teams are both tanked by Yas and she gets on top of chrome Dante around red +1 (at least if maining)
me 133 sneer frags from using first red orb ever x.x
@darkhorse5591
this video is about taking rank 1 in Arena and how easy it is because everyone is using mage teams. No idea why you're bringing up attacking into the wrong team, or defense at all. Real weird.
I thought this was going to be a Rufus video ;-)
It's something you have said a lot, but how Asta/Axel is a counter to Iris ?
How Axel could be better than Oliver for exemple ? Axel provides magic attack (useless for Asta) and armor, protects against oneshot (Iris won't oneshot). Oliver provides also armor but health instead of magic attack and heals Asta when his health is low.
I really don't see the benefits of Axel.
Have you called Asta's Shield "useless"? OK, that's a wild oppinion. Maybe you read this skill again
@@MrOnePieceRuffy unless your heros are blue astas shield is garbage
Astaroth's shield is one of the worst ults in the game. It's combined damage, and only physical. It's worth about 1 or 2 basic auto attacks.
Axel prevents one-shots from Dante from happening, causing Iris overall to be slow as cold syrup.
@@MrOnePieceRuffy maybe not ;) you never use Asta for his first skill which is way too weak. You use him for his revive ability (4th skill) or his overall stats that make him a good tank or his first artefact that gives armor. But not for his first useless skill...
@@HeroWarsCentral thanks for your answer.
Ok, I understand your point but I wouldn't say that putting Axel on Asta will nullify Iris.
Anyway, thanks for your video, as always.
imo defense is completely irrelevant these days there are like 3 teams that are relevant and can defeat each other, besides that other teams are a hot bag of irrelevant shit so dont give 2 shits about defense, put in 5 good heroes or 5 healers they are fucked anyways.
issac, nebula and Sebastian are a must tho no debate about them
Defence is the most tricky bit about hero wars - building an attack is easy - defending one takes skill
agree 100% defense is worthless. Just a fun video showing the over-popularity of Gus/orion