E71: The dark side of the EU
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- Corruption. Bags of cash. Links to organised crime. Using intimidation to stop people asking questions.
We always knew this EU was authoritarian and crooked. But a series of recent scandals is bringing its dark side into full relief.
The Qatar corruption probe is rocking the European Parliament, having already claimed the jobs of several top MEPs. While over in Frankfurt, the European Central Bank is demanding legal fees to intimidate our own organisation, DiEM25. All because we dared to ask for information that should be publicly available.
What’s going on? How did we get here? And what can everyday people do to get the transparent, accountable institutions they deserve? Our panel, including our own Yanis Varoufakis, our German party leader Julijana Zita and political director Erik Edman, investigates. Join in the live discussion!
0:00 [Introduction] Mehran Khalili
2:17 Yanis Varoufakis
12:37 Lucas Febraro
20:41 Amir Kiyaei
26:17 Questions and comments from the chat
26:54 Julijana Zita
31:01 Judith Meyer
33:42 Ivana Nenadovic
38:30 Dusan Pajovic
41:40 Johannes Fehr
42:02 Julijana Zita
48:06 Yanis Varoufakis
1:01:14 [Conclusion] Mehran Khalili
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It is often said that the EU suffers from a democratic deficiency.
What if the problem is an undemocratic surplus?
God truly bless Yanis and the entire Diem 25 team! This is such a great eye opener. Thank You for this!
Who owns the Press? The reason I watch this channel and not MSM because most US media is owned by oligarchs. Most media provides prescribed news.
DiEM25 has a great mission and team. Thanks
i just love Varoufakis. God bless him.
At first glance European Central Bank may look like a Central Bank without a state but it has its state called Germany. Euro currency "printed" by the European Bank is just renamed deutsche mark. Every Euro zone country gave up their currency except Germany. They simply renamed it, that's all. That is why Germany is the biggest beneficiary of the common currency in Eurozone without direct responsibility for Euro in case of any potential financial crisis. Very cosy arrangement for Germany.
N who is germany!?
Its just a colony in the worst meaning of the us oligarchie and "the germans" are Held hostage!
uhmmm, actually, my country Czech Republic havent accepted the Euro yet, and i hope we wont,but our politics went to shit for last 15 years and we have de facto no major leftist party, and currently, our political establishment went full send mafia corruption, and in the energy crisis, instead of taxing the energy companies more, they gave them tax holidays for a year.Its costing us 2billion CZK (93mil dollars +-?)every month.
The EU energy price cap is just a clown theater, it has no point, cause it was actually even higher than most of the energy prices on stock market.
I gave away all of my money twice for last 2 years just for electricity and im still in debt.
Its like being raped in broad daylight on the main street and nobody cares.
What did our Grandfathers crush a million German skulls for,? Just so they could be lapdogs to the Americans? Stupid. If your German shut the **** up. No one gives **** what sodomizing bastards think.
A bit of a hater, are we? Tell me what country you are from and I am sure I will find something on them, too.
The german has the biggest industry and by making the free market in all of eu, it was obvious for them to be the most powerful and outcompete the other states. Thats just capitalist competition and for that reason that fking euro follows the german economy so much.
They knew that from start and with hartz 4 they made it happen since they fked over german workers to conquer the eu market and so the euro.
We need DiEM25 in the UK
A very good forum, with smart, courageous and decent people.
Oh finally I found my tribe! Thank you ever so much. Fabulous panel.
None of this is at all surprising. Living in U$A, hearing about the slow creeping creation of EU first as an easing of trade & movement between European countries, then morphing into one currency & unelected group of "leaders," the tightening noose was evident. I was briefly in Brussels in 1977. I was struck by how much it had changed since previous visit in 1967. Clearly the huge multi nat'l corporations moved in & conspicuously dominated the cityscape. When EU began, I knew it was somehow connected to what I had seen. Of course, the huge corporate monopolies which had taken over U$A were doing the same in Europe. Huge profits, secrecy, owning of communication, creating dominant narrative & corruption as deep & wide as it can go are the norm when only money & power count. Yes, we the people are sucked into it too. All is fair in "business." Getting the best of a "deal," lying & cheating to "get ahead" and stealing from your employer (whom you know is stealing from you your labor & time) become badges of honor as long as you don't get caught. "Everybody does it."
Harrowing scandal. The dutch are truly cruel.
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Thank you so much for informing us!
French people are standing up to fight corruption and the oligarchs because probably most of them know what’s going on in society while most of us in Canada seem to be unaware of what happens in politics.
From Canada
The European Central Bank sounds worse than a BITCOIN scam.
It is!
Freedom is an illusion for the poor.
One aspect of the “axis divides” of Europe…: The term «Financial Engineering” does not exist in the Norwegian language, nor any Northern European wiki-page except for Icelandic.
The term DOES exist in English across our universities as a master degree.
So, ordinary people (wage takers) never discuss a term they don’t learn or hear about. Same for so many words, like “financialisation” (my iPhone marks the word as misspelled…).
Why are we surprised…? 🤓
(DiEM25 member 🔥)
Would it be possible to mount an INTERNATIONAL CORRUPTION LEAGUE TABLE that people could follow like checking the Football Results of a Saturday evening? 🤔 I think it could be very effective as well as amusing and might get many otherwise indifferent or simply unaware folk on board. (from Green Fire, UK) 🌈🦉 (I'm not kidding. Viva ICLT !!!)
PS: I'm old enough to fear my savings being eroded by the global spivs and myself ending up homeless. 🤔
Great idea, there should be billboards of the list in every town
I would like to hear more how about the EC "no state aid" rule affects a green new deal. It already stalled the train tunnel from Germany to Denmark for 3 years. I suspect the EC wants to kill the French law requiring closing of air services where high speed rail is available, but maybe does not dare.
As a Scot, who is an anti capitalist, Socialist, developing Marxist, internationalist, and an Independenista, I am torn when it comes to us rejoining Europe. I voted to join back in the day, voted to remain, and resent losing my status as an European, but I am wary of rejoining an economic, p olitical and legal grouping which does not promote the General Good . I had no illusions about the credentials of the EU, its capitalism for Europeans. Competition/partnership with the USA. Scotland, when independent will revisit our joining. Would full integration be best or a 'friendly agreement' between neighbours. Not a pressing issue but suspect and hope it will be.
I said this 20 years ago EU bank in Frankfort no whistles and bell checked assessment..kaboom
You are fantastic you guys/gal's!
Good work!
Incredible...glad I found you
The central banking scheme is a pox on humanity. Sir Josiah Stamp (former head of the British central banking system) quotation: Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a much happier world.
'Corruption' which undermines central government corruption may often not be corruption but anti-corruption. Do you really want your parking tickets going to, say, a killer war machine as in the case of anglo countries? But of course things should work IF the system is a good one that should work... these are complex case by case matters where logic is often sidetracked by sophists/lawyers.
@DiEM25official , guys have been looking at the developments in AI? From art faces to codes for developers. I feel like diem should bring in some crazy lefty who's expert in legal and intellectual property rights to give their perspective on AI and how corporate ownership of it will shape the working condition. This whole development should start a dialogue for ownership rights and private property overall.
Isaac Asimov wrote the three laws of robotics: 1) a robot may not injure a human or allow a human to come to harm; 2) robots must obey orders from humans, except where such orders would conflict with the first law; and 3) a robot must protect its own existence as long as it does not conflict with previous laws.
The three laws of corruption are slightly different: 1) he who holds public office has the right (divine or infernal) to allow himself to be corrupted for personal gain; 2) those who have been corrupted must honestly share what they have received with other authorities in order to be protected; 3) whoever is caught because of corruption has to remain silent so as not to be murdered by his cronies.
Europe likes to be seen as the cradle of civilization. But the truth is that it cannot even be considered the cradle of corruption. I know this will hurt the pride of Europeans, but you have to look at things holistically. As corruption was already an important phenomenon thousands of years before Christ (it was practiced in the first human civilizations), corrupt Europeans can say: "We are only apprentices of corruption and therefore innocent."
I´m in! DiEM25 ⚡
How did they ever decide to get lobbyists in on the play that's so insane, just a fool could not see how that has worked for the Americans. If everyone abolished the lobbyists and stop the corruption their countries financial situation would be healthier
excellent
This was good...
I very much enjoy Diem 25 Yanis is a great guy, I am also a big fan of Roger Waters another great guy, although he was absent on this occasion. The work you all do is always interesting and note worthy.
At the start of Russian military operations in the Early part of 2022, there was immediately condemnation of Russia from almost everyone in the west, including Diem25. For a good while Roger Waters seamed to be absent from your discussions. I noted from yourselves and in particular Yanis, nobody mentioned the role played by the USA and the west, NATO. (I may have missed it, if that’s the case I apologise).
It seamed to me obvious, that there may have been a friendly punch up between Roger and Yanis, as Roger and Yanis were coming from two different positions!
Later as Russia had pulled back I noticed Roger on a different platform speaking truth to power in an American media outlet about how Russia was pushed into this conflict by NATO forces amassing for an attack, I think in the Donbass region and it was this that Russia responded to in defence of its Russian speakers. Notably Roger emphasised the need to read about the historical context of the situation and getting facts right. Seemingly Yanis didn’t pick the book up, however I think Roger was on your platform fairly recently. I was expecting more reaction from Roger than I got.
I am now up to date with Dim 25 and you’ve had some great discussion this time around, but no Roger.
For what it is worth I don’t support Russia’s current Capitalist political system, as I am very much a socialist, but I also don’t support the US and NATOs expansionist exploitative policies with the intention if dismantling Russia.
25,000,000 Russian died in world war two fighting that odious ideology of the 1930s and 40s. As far as I understand Ukraine military is rife with these odious factions.
Going back to Roger very recently did a speech to the UN. The speech was brilliant but he had to get something of his chest, and that was Russia’s illegal invasion of the Ukraine, which I think came across as a little insincere, as I don’t believe, Roger believed what he had said.
I myself can recognises that their should have been due proses through the UN I think, before they invaded, but in realty, time was against Russian as the had to save thier russian speaking folk, as the west had scuttled the Minsk agreements of the past and Russia was caught between a rock and a hard place.
So Roger if you ever read this I’m fairly certain that you actually don’t believe it was morally wrong to assisting their fellow Russians, even if it was technically illegal. Morally I also don’t think that any compassionate minded person would think Russia had committed some heinous act in what they did.
Then there’s the negotiations that were scuppered in March 22, (which would have left Ukraine independent) by a very dangerous man called Boris. Lets also not forget the massive amounts of western finance flowing to enriching the western oligarchs and the industrial military complex, whilst many ordinary folk in the west are struggling.
Finally. I hope Diem25 push for everyone to get up and march anti war, anti nukes, as that hand moves ever closer to midnight.
It's cheaper to make ECU(engine control unit) show lower emissions than to make the engine pollute less...
Yanis point number one is the key.. and the vested interests are so vested through European history maintaining their hold over the mainstream narratives that are propagated.
The ECB is a virtually constructed institution.
The strongest argument
Indonesian like this movement
I fear that the common belief in the importance of hierarchies is much older than capitalism and much more ingrained in society than you think. "Father knows best" is a common expression and is a tell-tale sign of it. Call it patriarchy or whatever, but it cuts very deep. With Dušan I believe it is a bad thing, but I fear it might be even stonger and older than capitalism itself.
How can you make an EU that will connect with all Nationalities from rural and urban of Europe to agree upon to put aside their domestic national custom without been violated outside of politics?
Let's create our own European Democracy... with an interest-free bank... close the stockmarket... and than by referendum change to it...
Yanis's introduction is a classic in revealing the design flaws of the EU so I pity all those countries who are so terrified of Russia that they are desperate to join the EU when actually N.A,T,O, already exists ., and is all they need .
Russia just wanted to trade, eg Nordstream. It doesn't want a military superstructure on its borders with missiles pointing at St Petersburg and Moscow.
Is the salary of €10,000 is it a month or year for a European MEP?
@48:15 Yanis uses Australian English "dobbed her in" for "told on her" or "squealed"...😘 showing his years in Australia weren't entirely wasted...👍🖖✊️
Well Yanis, corruption is simply a factor in all systems and it's a matter of degree. If the markets are truely free it will provide competition and the laws should ( and does to some extend) limit monopolies. It is all in Burke's works btw. The state's roll is to lay down the boundaries of freedom/ manipulation so at least some leeway can be provided for freedom loving citizens. The classic mistake communists make is that they can set up a system without or with limited corruption..
I would love to have full surveillance on politicians and members of the EU I would go as far as to say they should also have to undergo a lie detection machine publicly before being allowed to take office.
What would happen if they gave a war and no one showed up?
As a southern european living in a north european country, i want to thank, Varoufakis for expleining and exposing, the diference, between "petit bougeois" corruption,😂 in the south, and "industrial proportions" corrupcion in the north, sometimes, they even say, that, it has to do, with religious diferences, you know, protestants are honest😂 and we catholics &orthodox, ...are not😂😂😂❤
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Claps 4 Ivana's comment on what a person can do :
"not get involved personally in the corruption "
- & that's hard if patience is lacking
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Sounds remarkably like what Nigel Farage says
And his dream has come true; the UK is out of the EU but will have to adopt ALL decisions made in Brussels with absolutely no input if the UK wants access to the common market. Great Britain has become a pimple on the ass of Europe. All the criticisms leveled at the EU are true, but staying in and fighting for changes and a stronger union would have served British interests better than exiting in a fit of pique.
@@pwp8737 good points, well made.
Apart from Farage, who else was up for the kind of 'fighting for changes' from within?
@@pwp8737 Nah........ Financial lose to Brexit in the UK is grossly OVER ESTIMATED ! The EU is basically a mafia syndicate and the UK's input during all the years they were part of it created 0 benefit. Why should the UK want to keep dealing with that bs .
@@saccount-z3 Your not the brightest bulb are you? LOL
@@OrwellsHousecat UK PM David Cameron was trying to achieve that (reform from within), along with Mark Rutter of the Netherlands. The EU called their bluff and refused to reform. Cameron resigned when the Brexit referendum voted to Leave.
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Judgement Day will come as a Big Surprise now Won't it?
18:20 *Trumped up* charges? Really?
Mr.Varoufakis, can you please coment on EU andNATO? relations
Are you saying they have bright side?
@20:00 10k salary for an MEP doesn't sound much...are you sure it's not monthly or 100k per year??
Salary unless stated means gross pay per year. I have found it is 10k per month. Not bad for a whole lot of nothing...ask Nigel Farage who barely attended...
I like the excuse these
Cheap banks make when they turn you down for a modest loan even though they know you can afford the repayment. "The system wont allow it"
Fu...ing bots.
Policia otom nevie
Hands off Hungary🇭🇺
Saludos desde México.
It’s time to move to Russia
Why would things be better there? There are more oligarch probably than country you are in right now.
at least have a damn good time trying --defeatist....
Can anyone actually tell me what THEY do with the "Money" Betsy Devos, has i am told has more than One Luxury Yacht, along with all of the rest of here, (from what i am told) insestuist religious Family have in America, you can only eat one Lolly Pop at a time, i (live) exist in Liverpool, England, Just what do they do with the MONEY?? Ta
A gynecologist in charge? Also why the hell russian companies are allowed to lobby their interests in the EU parliament? Even now when russia is at war?
They want create EU State
Here is some more of the dark side, from another perspective ===> th-cam.com/video/JE0sNQK6wrg/w-d-xo.html
I like Yanis V verry much, but he is left wing politician. I’m from Eastern Europe and my country was 50 years under communism. I must tell you communism was the most opressive sistem for people! We all countries under this sistem, we don’t forget our life under communism!
Which country? And how old are you?
@@ineshvaladolenc6559 I’m 67 years old, but why you ask me the age and the country? From what country are you and how old are you?
It doesn’t matter if he is on left wing. He speaks true an current things! After 20 years communism and 36 years west, running blind to the West at that time and believing that the West is the real thing, I can say that the EU, driven by Germany, is back in the deepest communist time. The biggest Idiots, member of CP was leader. The difference ist that in the communism they do not steal an plunder on this scale because the were locked up. The Police State and surveillance State in the communism is nothing compared with the “free World” today. My allergy to “red” is not gone but that do not mean that all the left wing politicians are talking nonsense. Two examples, if you understand German, understand not only speak, are Wagenknecht and Gisy.
Minority, a term used to describe the Majority of the worlds population. ... absurds...
Keep your NGOs out of our business