Yes, GPS assist is perfect, IF you use the correct settings. I may be sold on swathing, but only when we have a 3pt hitch on her harvester so I can pickup swath and bale at same time. No way am I gonna run same field twice, manually. As swathing goes at 9mph and pickup is 7mph, plus 25% BONUS, can be lucrative but only if you manually do field once, not twice....and remember, you HAVE to run grain cart manually as well.
I preordered the game months ago but had no plans on swathing. In Fs22 I grew one field of wheat for my chickens and bailed the straw to mix into TMR for my Dairy Cows. Based on this video and its results, I conclude that I WILL BE SWATHING.
So I tested this on Hutan Pantai Field 2 and the Results are Disgusting! in a good way. I had enough Grains to fill the MAPS grain mill, Oil mill(canola only) and I filled the smallest forage bunker with straw 3 times over I had to rent a HUGE bailer to deal with the rest of the straw and I was still feeding chickens, and providing bedding for my Water Buffalo's and the TMR... this thing get alot more grass I turned field 35 into a grass lands & again in a year filled 3 bunkers with Silage & hay then mixed a bunkers worth of TMR lol
I can't wait until modders add old swathers, maybe bundle binders and stationary threshers :D I'll be able to play FS the way my parents farmed the land in their youth. Though not quite, as my parents were born before tractors were in their families' farms
Personally I’m not a fan of swathing giving more yield; it should allow you to harvest your crop sooner. It would be more in line with real life and just more realistic in general.
@@C20F in practice if you’re producing a second crop in a year when you’d normally only get one you’re practically doubling your income in the same time frame.
When/if courseplay comes to fs25 it might be worth it. I rather have 25% less yield then do the manual work that i rather spend on making silage, hay and grass bales for the animals. On hard mode it's going to take alot of years to break even on the investment.
Not sure if you have contact with mod makers but I believe a measuring mod so we can build exact farm layouts to resemble ours would be neat. Getting exact acerage for made fields and designing a farm layout that is close to exact that we have.
I think the mower attachment can mow the crops like an forage harvester...but instead of loading it in a trailer i think maybe you can pick it up with a loader wagon
If I'm starting with cereals and grass work, which is fairly common, I'd probably invest in this and just lease a combine as needed. It'll do more for me than just sitting in the yard depreciating for 11 months out of the year, anyway.
Whether it's actually worth it or not calculation NEEDS to include the 300k investment in order to do this in the first place. How large is your field and what economy settings you're playing on. It's not as simple as 25% more. If it takes you entire playthrough to make it even, i wouldn't say it's worth the investment.
For someone like me that exclusively plays on hard mode it seems to be very hard to justify it. Especially when you consider the extra work i have to do without AI workers. Could be working on grass, hay or silage to feed animals while the AI harvests the field. That extra productivity might be worth more then the 25% extra yield. With courseplay it might be worth it.
I cant possibly include the calaculation in a test, that has far too many vafiables from equipment to game mode to crop type. All i can do is tell you what it does and let you make an educated decision
@@FarmerCop Oh it wasn't a stab at you. I was in general replying to everyone because there were some false-ish comments to this video. You're good farming officer!
This is a fair point. The machinery, as new, has a known cost, just like production facilities. If making sayboat flour, fry tield is 60k, so 60x1499 in flour is not bad. 75x1499 is 112k in just oat flour. So, 3x harvests will black line the swather investment with no other changes.
Questions.... If you bale the same field as you tested on, was there a difference, or do you get the same amount of straw, compared to the pickup wagon? And is there a difference, from using additive on both the pickup wagon and the baler in wheat straw?
Any chance you can select dropping the swath on the left or right? If you can then you can set the harvester at 24.4 meters and pu two swaths at the same time.
Has anybody figured out how to use the pw8 header for the regular combines to pick up the windrows on a header trailer? The combination screen says it fits on the bardo 20t but I can’t get it to lock down when side loading. If I unfold it, it tips the header backwards
I'm no expert nor an IRL farmer, but I imagine the bigger combines are needed because you're still harvesting 12.2 metre's width worth of grain and straw. A smaller & less powerful combine can only cope with so much material at a time, hence the narrower headers.
@TheBrainios ive done some research, and the consensus i found was that swathers increase the quality of your product by initiation the drying process before being "harvested" thus allowing unripe patches to ripen aswell and giving a higher quality end product. But since product quality is not accounted for in farm sim, its a good solution to increase yield to simulate an increase in quality.
Irl we swath our Canola to get it to dry out uniformly and have it all ready to swath at the same time, otherwise you can have part of the field starting to shell out while other areas are still green
If you mean the weird thing where the license plate had an afterimage looking thing, then I'm pretty sure that's just youtube compression being crap, and isn't actually visible in game. TH-cam REALLY doesn't like fast moving details, and causes motion blur and artefacts when things move quickly across the screen, such as the license plate when he was panning the camera around.
i wish they actually just had mechanics that would support why swathing is done IRL, stop making me roleplay every aspect of farming in a simulator game
So why do they farm swath IRL? For context, I am a truck driver IRL, not a farmer. Also, you said "Stop making me Roleplay every aspect of farming in a simulator game." Maybe I misunderstand, as to me, that is EXACTLY the purpose of a "Simulator".
@@jollyrogerhobbies2386 in real life swathing is often done in wetter climates, as crops will often not stop growing in those climates. So what they do is cut it when its roughly time to harvest, then it can dry out on the ground for the harvester with the pickup header to pick it up a few days later. The way its implemented here is kinda weird, because swathing doesnt net you a greater yield, it just makes it so you're able to harvest your crop in the first place.
@@linux_doggo I wonder if swathing would actually do this in game as well? Like, if you wanted to RP being in said wet climate you set the storms probability much higher, and thus it rains far more often. You can't normally harvest crops in the rain (Or do so at a much decreased yield. I forget which). In which case maybe swathing would allow you to chop the crop down even while it's raining, then you can let it sit on the field and sleep until the rain stops, without worrying about the crop withering in the field.
Ugh! Just bought a 50 ft grain head and trailer.. Oh well.. I will sell them back and swath away... not to mention get a decent mower included in the cost.
I did the same test with swathing and I did better with the regular header then with swathing and the mac don header did worse for the yeld then the regular header
hi farmer cop, dropped a like and full watch on your video, thanks again for showing this because i forgot how the swathing works since i havent swathed for a while in farm sim 22 so this refreshed my mind a little bit on the subject. thanks bro.😀
Harvesting a field using three different machines, the MACDON to swath, a regular HARVESTER and then the FORAGE wagon seems like a time waster to me, regardless of how little extra you make. I'd rather just wipe out the field as quickly as possible with a regular harvester.
That not real tho I farm and u would get way less straw by swathing it and picking it up vs straight cut and u also get loss when swathing it thats completely backwards of real life
Do any one Know why i cant store Straw in the hay loft building?! it's in the description that it's for hay and straw. but i can't use it for straw and it's pissing me off so much, thanks :D
After all these years they still dont seem to understand farming and why certain things sre done. They could have made this mkre realistic and better game play imstead of just adding an extra step for a but more yeild. Like mowing oats with the grain still on it to make oaten bales.
It's not worth the time and capital investment for me. It's a game to me, not a second job. I'd rather put my money into the Case IH Axial Flow and harvest the field once and be done with it.
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Your 12.2 looks a lot like 11.2. 🤣
Ye no wonder his line was off centre
Yes, GPS assist is perfect, IF you use the correct settings. I may be sold on swathing, but only when we have a 3pt hitch on her harvester so I can pickup swath and bale at same time. No way am I gonna run same field twice, manually. As swathing goes at 9mph and pickup is 7mph, plus 25% BONUS, can be lucrative but only if you manually do field once, not twice....and remember, you HAVE to run grain cart manually as well.
I wonder if he writes out tickets like that? Nice cop! 🙂
I know right?
Can you still have ai worker drive to field like in fs22
I preordered the game months ago but had no plans on swathing. In Fs22 I grew one field of wheat for my chickens and bailed the straw to mix into TMR for my Dairy Cows. Based on this video and its results, I conclude that I WILL BE SWATHING.
The mower on the grain crops that leaves straw swath might be useful to use on a withered crop to get some straw out of an otherwise wasted crop.
Ya that was my thought, hopefully don't make that mistake though.
Glad you measured the straw volume, too. I wondered if it would be affected.
could we put the pickup on a forage harvester so we can dump to a trailer?
So I tested this on Hutan Pantai Field 2 and the Results are Disgusting! in a good way. I had enough Grains to fill the MAPS grain mill, Oil mill(canola only) and I filled the smallest forage bunker with straw 3 times over I had to rent a HUGE bailer to deal with the rest of the straw and I was still feeding chickens, and providing bedding for my Water Buffalo's and the TMR... this thing get alot more grass I turned field 35 into a grass lands & again in a year filled 3 bunkers with Silage & hay then mixed a bunkers worth of TMR lol
I can't wait until modders add old swathers, maybe bundle binders and stationary threshers :D I'll be able to play FS the way my parents farmed the land in their youth. Though not quite, as my parents were born before tractors were in their families' farms
Personally I’m not a fan of swathing giving more yield; it should allow you to harvest your crop sooner. It would be more in line with real life and just more realistic in general.
Well that's hardly a benefit in the game.
@ it is a great benefit if that early harvest allows you to get a second crop in that year.
@@joshuadoll9000 In theory, barely in practice. But that's my opinion. ^_^
@@C20F in practice if you’re producing a second crop in a year when you’d normally only get one you’re practically doubling your income in the same time frame.
@@joshuadoll9000 So, no difference other than being more time consuming and repetitive.
Love your new intros with the real life fields, excellent 👍🏻😊
can we use a pickup header on a forage harvester? so then we can dump to a trailer right away ?
When/if courseplay comes to fs25 it might be worth it.
I rather have 25% less yield then do the manual work that i rather spend on making silage, hay and grass bales for the animals.
On hard mode it's going to take alot of years to break even on the investment.
Can you check if the 25% bonus works on collections from orders?
take a drink everytime he says swath, impossible edition
Not sure if you have contact with mod makers but I believe a measuring mod so we can build exact farm layouts to resemble ours would be neat. Getting exact acerage for made fields and designing a farm layout that is close to exact that we have.
25% is a nice difference. I'll be doing this for sure. I'm just curious, does swathing in real life bring in more or is that just a fs25 feature lol
What is with the flying artifacts in the game, Ive noticed them in my game as well? Looks like shooting stars accross the screen at times.
Very useful information to know, thanks
is the dlc header only attachment that will pick swath up?
I think the mower attachment can mow the crops like an forage harvester...but instead of loading it in a trailer i think maybe you can pick it up with a loader wagon
Is there a conditioner option for the grass mower to produce hay right away?
If I'm starting with cereals and grass work, which is fairly common, I'd probably invest in this and just lease a combine as needed. It'll do more for me than just sitting in the yard depreciating for 11 months out of the year, anyway.
Whether it's actually worth it or not calculation NEEDS to include the 300k investment in order to do this in the first place. How large is your field and what economy settings you're playing on. It's not as simple as 25% more. If it takes you entire playthrough to make it even, i wouldn't say it's worth the investment.
For someone like me that exclusively plays on hard mode it seems to be very hard to justify it.
Especially when you consider the extra work i have to do without AI workers.
Could be working on grass, hay or silage to feed animals while the AI harvests the field.
That extra productivity might be worth more then the 25% extra yield.
With courseplay it might be worth it.
I cant possibly include the calaculation in a test, that has far too many vafiables from equipment to game mode to crop type. All i can do is tell you what it does and let you make an educated decision
@@FarmerCop Oh it wasn't a stab at you. I was in general replying to everyone because there were some false-ish comments to this video. You're good farming officer!
This is a fair point. The machinery, as new, has a known cost, just like production facilities.
If making sayboat flour, fry tield is 60k, so 60x1499 in flour is not bad. 75x1499 is 112k in just oat flour. So, 3x harvests will black line the swather investment with no other changes.
will swathing give a 25% to grass aswell?
Questions....
If you bale the same field as you tested on, was there a difference, or do you get the same amount of straw, compared to the pickup wagon?
And is there a difference, from using additive on both the pickup wagon and the baler in wheat straw?
Silage additive will not increase straw yield and forage wagon and baling have identical yields
@@FarmerCop Cool, and thanks.
Great video, really good information, thanks FC.
will the macdon r216 sp do the grass next to the road?
Thanks💪😁👍
What happens if I were to mow the wheat? Does that give me the same amount of straw that swathing would or will that give me more straw than swathing?
Any chance you can select dropping the swath on the left or right? If you can then you can set the harvester at 24.4 meters and pu two swaths at the same time.
Yes, would like that. The current FS22 swathing mod does that.
I would have thought the straw volume would have gone down not up, thanks for the info.
Thanks for this informative video. Seems like swathing with the mower would be convenient for grass--eliminates a windrowing pass.
Still quicker with the Krone BigM
Has anybody figured out how to use the pw8 header for the regular combines to pick up the windrows on a header trailer? The combination screen says it fits on the bardo 20t but I can’t get it to lock down when side loading. If I unfold it, it tips the header backwards
I’m definitely going to be swathing for that bonus to wheat for my chickens and straw to put towards TMR and bedding for manure
Usually you swath canola before it is ready to harvest to make it dry faster. Can you swath canola before it is ready to harvest in the game?
Nope
Can you pick up the crop swath with the smallest combine? It wasnt in the "combinations" option - no real benefit of a bigger combine
I'm no expert nor an IRL farmer, but I imagine the bigger combines are needed because you're still harvesting 12.2 metre's width worth of grain and straw. A smaller & less powerful combine can only cope with so much material at a time, hence the narrower headers.
Imnsure it would work but may struggle a bit to do it
Works perfectly fine with the old Massey Ferguson combine
it looks like it would be verry easy to just add grass seed thresing
Than New Holland harvester was giving me tingles. Oh that a yes for crop swathing for me now.
is that icrease in yeald realistic? a 25% increase would mean regular harvesters are leaving out a ton of grain
No in RL its actually the opposite (less yield) or everyone would be using swathers in real life. lol
@TheBrainios ive done some research, and the consensus i found was that swathers increase the quality of your product by initiation the drying process before being "harvested" thus allowing unripe patches to ripen aswell and giving a higher quality end product.
But since product quality is not accounted for in farm sim, its a good solution to increase yield to simulate an increase in quality.
Irl we swath our Canola to get it to dry out uniformly and have it all ready to swath at the same time, otherwise you can have part of the field starting to shell out while other areas are still green
@@Sman16 yea i did some research. Having an increased yield is fs's way of implementing that.
Thx anyways for the response!
Wow! I should be swathing!
Is the ghosting I see in video from FSR or DLSS?
If you mean the weird thing where the license plate had an afterimage looking thing, then I'm pretty sure that's just youtube compression being crap, and isn't actually visible in game.
TH-cam REALLY doesn't like fast moving details, and causes motion blur and artefacts when things move quickly across the screen, such as the license plate when he was panning the camera around.
Time to watch some awesome fs25 tutorials
i wish they actually just had mechanics that would support why swathing is done IRL, stop making me roleplay every aspect of farming in a simulator game
So why do they farm swath IRL? For context, I am a truck driver IRL, not a farmer. Also, you said "Stop making me Roleplay every aspect of farming in a simulator game." Maybe I misunderstand, as to me, that is EXACTLY the purpose of a "Simulator".
@@jollyrogerhobbies2386 in real life swathing is often done in wetter climates, as crops will often not stop growing in those climates. So what they do is cut it when its roughly time to harvest, then it can dry out on the ground for the harvester with the pickup header to pick it up a few days later. The way its implemented here is kinda weird, because swathing doesnt net you a greater yield, it just makes it so you're able to harvest your crop in the first place.
@@linux_doggo Ah! thank you for the explanation!
@@linux_doggo I wonder if swathing would actually do this in game as well? Like, if you wanted to RP being in said wet climate you set the storms probability much higher, and thus it rains far more often. You can't normally harvest crops in the rain (Or do so at a much decreased yield. I forget which). In which case maybe swathing would allow you to chop the crop down even while it's raining, then you can let it sit on the field and sleep until the rain stops, without worrying about the crop withering in the field.
Good vid very helpful
Now im definitely going to swathing.
Can the AI worker drive a gran cart?
Ugh! Just bought a 50 ft grain head and trailer.. Oh well.. I will sell them back and swath away... not to mention get a decent mower included in the cost.
I did the same test with swathing and I did better with the regular header then with swathing and the mac don header did worse for the yeld then the regular header
Run a Macdon swather and headers on our combines IRL cant wait to run them in game to
i bought the pack with teh mod, but in game in says i have to buy it.... is tahjt a bug ?
Nope. Purchasing the DLC only adds it as an option to the store in game. If you don't own the DLC, you can't buy it in game.
It doesn't work for swathing hay?
Macdon PAY TO WIN!! XD
Well it free if you preordered, so more like Preorder to Win… 😮
hi farmer cop, dropped a like and full watch on your video, thanks again for showing this because i forgot how the swathing works since i havent swathed for a while in farm sim 22 so this refreshed my mind a little bit on the subject. thanks bro.😀
Makes sense work harder to get more
Why would you pick it up with a combine when there is a pick up trailer that can hold more🤷🏻♂️
you arent just picking it up with a combine, you are threshing it. The forage wagons cant
Did anyone count how many times crop swath was said?
Anyone been able to swath on a contract? Not sure what I'm dong wrong. Regular havester/header works. And swathing works on fields I own.
Cant swath on contracts. Have to harvest normally
Wow. 25%
Harvesting a field using three different machines, the MACDON to swath, a regular HARVESTER and then the FORAGE wagon seems like a time waster to me, regardless of how little extra you make.
I'd rather just wipe out the field as quickly as possible with a regular harvester.
Take a drink every time we hear SWATHHHH
11.2 when 12.2 and then ”I have to turn automatically” lol, huge brain fart😂
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Turns out you can't do this in multiplayer coz you can access the dlc content on multiplayer
Can't wait to try it all out myself in three days
My new regular grass mower
That not real tho I farm and u would get way less straw by swathing it and picking it up vs straight cut and u also get loss when swathing it thats completely backwards of real life
Do any one Know why i cant store Straw in the hay loft building?! it's in the description that it's for hay and straw. but i can't use it for straw and it's pissing me off so much, thanks :D
Even with the increased yields, having to essentially "harvest" a field twice is just not worth it, imo.
Bronze harvester has a lot of yellow snd zero gold
AI workers swathing seems to be broken as of 1.4
After all these years they still dont seem to understand farming and why certain things sre done. They could have made this mkre realistic and better game play imstead of just adding an extra step for a but more yeild. Like mowing oats with the grain still on it to make oaten bales.
The +25% is to reward you for not being able to use an AI worker picking up the straws and harvesting the swath
You set it to 11.2 not 12.2😂
the main holdout to swathing is my inability to pronounce that word correctly
It's not worth the time and capital investment for me. It's a game to me, not a second job. I'd rather put my money into the Case IH Axial Flow and harvest the field once and be done with it.
Science fiction?
You missed a trick. You should be able to pick a crop swath with the self propelled forage harvester and chop it to make silage.
The point of this new thing is what?
pointless
Noah its not worth it, Why not just set it on fire, we always did that on my dads farm
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So?
@Aeliarna I'm a bigger supporter than you! And also why not?