One thing worth noting is that you don't have to match the specific "outside" pentatonic to each mode. You can overlay any pentatonic shape in an outside context. And if the result is that some of the notes are "inside" it actually integrates the "outside" phrasing with some inside sounds... basically if you focus on the rhythmic phrasing you can't really go wrong. It's all about resolving back to inside. Tension and release. Another great lesson. And useful. Especially the "phrasing like a drum fill" suggestion. Fun stuff! thanks!
So whatever mode position one is playing in, a half step above, playing a pentatonic scale will give the 'extra 5 notes' for the 'outside' feel. And it also means a major mode position means playing the major pentatonic a half step above. And that 'rule of thumb' applies for any position or degree of any given mode all over the neck. Wow, that's blown my mind how easy it is to map the positions for playing 'outside' Thank you, David!
Salut David. Un grand merci à toi. Je cherche à jouer out depuis des années. Et là, en une phrase, tout s’éclaire ! Le secret, c’est le placement : comme un batteur, jouer out à la fin d’un cycle pour créer une tension avant de revenir à la tonalité d’origine. C’est évident. Et pourtant je ne trouvais pas. Encore merci !!!
Exactement..!!! Merci David pour cette "illumination" (en approche de Noël, ça le fait grave..^^). Je trouve ton flow vraiment cool, et l'évolution de ta chaine va dans le bon sens. Merci !!!!
Mr Wallimann kudos for making another crystal clear video, one thing I would love to see would be an explanation of the major seconds minor seconds 4ths 5ths I don’t know the terminology for those notes but a video on those would be amazing!!! Thank you again I love your channel, probably my favorite
Picked that up from a keyboard player some time ago. Think of a piano keyboard. White keys are C Ionian (D Dorian) and, of course, all of C majors relative modes, while all black keys add up to Eb minor pentatonic. Similar to "side slipping." I like the drum fill tip...seems like I've heard you use that analogy before. Thanks David Walliman!
DAVID WALLIMANN, ------- can you make a video showing examples of using "outside NOTES" of the pentatonic scale. Hotel California Don Felder uses a lot of Outside notes that are not in the pentatonic box. The solo in GNR sweet child of mine also uses a lot of "outside notes" from the pentatonic box. These are the 2 major examples of know of that use the pentatonic box but use outside notes as melodic notes. If you know any other guitar solos or examples to help out please make a video explaining this to learn from. Thanks for the help
Hmm?..I didnt realize how great I was blind drunk in the 70s "hittin" all those Ab -C# notes in Evil Ways.Everybody always clapped so?Too bad I was playin a G dorian a half step high half the time...LOL..Great lesson ! really good to hear all my BAD notes be put into perspective.
Alors, comment dire? Je m'intéresse à l'improvisation. Et qui est mieux placé qu'un guitariste pour aider dans cette démarche un bassiste comme moi? Par contre je n'avais pas l'intention d'apprendre l'anglais. Quelle fut ma stupéfaction de vous entendre parler français !!! Franchement, ce même tuto en français j'aurais adoré. :) Ceci dit j'ai quand même compris le sens général et c'est très bien expliqué. Bravo Monsieur. ;)
Merci beaucoup David! THAT was the big key to understand what Ive been hearing in fusion forever and not knowing the formula for it. I knew going up or down in a minor pentatonic buit I didnt know that was related to the modes as maj/min. EXCELLENT!!! *Can you explain how to get package classes in various subjects from your website - the paid ones please? Im very short on time so fast direct tutorials that teach advanced subjects like this one is what I need...thanks again! *Didnt realise you were Franco origin....is that Canadian?
Salut David, après avoir vu le pdf, puis je penser dans le cas du ionien : min penta +b3 au lieu de maj penta +b5 ? en te remerciant pour tes supers vidéos !!
Alright.. i’m at the 3:55 mark and i have to admit to being kinda flabbergasted because yesterday i was looking thru one of my many guitar neck schemas for 7 strings that i drew years ago and it was in the key of B minor/D major Funny thing is for the first time in years, i noticed the physical pattern of the 5 empty notes throughout the scale/modes and thought “hmm, funny how it looks like the intervals/fingering of a minor pentatonic scale” and thought about experimenting later with it about a different “outside playing” approach using these 5 empty notes instead of going up/down a half step because i’ve never really got the sounds i was looking for with this approach(or maybe i just haven’t experimented enough) Then today i find this video of you explaining this approach i just discovered yesterday I feel like there is some weird synchronicity at work here and it makes me feel giddy and weirded out at the same time Anyways, sorry for this unrelevant anecdote but i felt like sharing it Thanks Dave for existing!
Ohhh, en passant! Je suis Québecois et je viens juste de finir d’entendre ta conversation au cellulaire Je trouvais ça drôle comment tu n’as pas un accent français ultra prononcé comme le reste des Français de France Est-ce que le fait de parler beaucoup en anglais a altéré ton accent français? Parce que si j’aurais pas vue le drapeau de France, j’aurais juré que tu as un peu un accent Québecois
I would say: G Ionian.........play Penta 5th position 1/2 Step above... G Dorian.........play Penta 1st position 1/2Step above... G Phrygian......play Penta 2nd position WHOLE STEP above.... G Lydian.........play Penta 2nd position 1/2 Step above...... G Mixolydian...play Penta 3rd position 1/2 Step above..... G Aeolian........play Penta 4th position 1/2 Step above... Then if you are brave enough....(lol)...continue with following positions on that Penta. Hope I didn't messed it up....lol.
Yeah, but he basically gave the formula to figure it out yourself. You take any 7-note scale and the 5 remaining notes are the outside. So just find the 5 remaining notes and you'll see that they form a pentatonic pattern. Major, minor, mode, etc. don't matter as long as you know the original 7 notes, the 5 outside notes are easy to map out. In fact I would say you really don't want someone or tabs to show all the rest of the combinations, it is better to work them out yourself.
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Been playing for 30 years and this is the best explanation of playing out I've ever heard. Top notch!
One thing worth noting is that you don't have to match the specific "outside" pentatonic to each mode. You can overlay any pentatonic shape in an outside context. And if the result is that some of the notes are "inside" it actually integrates the "outside" phrasing with some inside sounds... basically if you focus on the rhythmic phrasing you can't really go wrong. It's all about resolving back to inside. Tension and release.
Another great lesson. And useful. Especially the "phrasing like a drum fill" suggestion. Fun stuff! thanks!
Sharing knowledge is a great skill...and you are a pro in that ...thanks bro...I was stuck with my playing...it helps now...thank you..
Great explanation David. Excellent.
Wow would not have sussed that in a thousand years. And the drummer idea just brilliant that would have been the next thousand years. Thanks David
Thank you for stating it this way! I’ve been trying to think of how to teach that to my students-well put!
Talking about the playing outside stuff
"Removing" that guitar's "virginity" .....
David.....: Always straightforward .
David's lessons never fail to grab me. I'm thinking that's cool and want to pick up my guitar and work on it.
So whatever mode position one is playing in, a half step above, playing a pentatonic scale will give the 'extra 5 notes' for the 'outside' feel. And it also means a major mode position means playing the major pentatonic a half step above. And that 'rule of thumb' applies for any position or degree of any given mode all over the neck. Wow, that's blown my mind how easy it is to map the positions for playing 'outside' Thank you, David!
Real great lesson! Thank you!
Totally mindblowing...
Great lesson as usual, and fashion game on point.
Sounding great. Good explanation of something I could never quite figure out.
Ahah énorme le coup de fil ! Merci pour le cours !!
David, you're brilliant!
Thanks i always wanted to play fusion but didnt know where to start. Gonna try that once i get home
Salut David. Un grand merci à toi. Je cherche à jouer out depuis des années. Et là, en une phrase, tout s’éclaire ! Le secret, c’est le placement : comme un batteur, jouer out à la fin d’un cycle pour créer une tension avant de revenir à la tonalité d’origine. C’est évident. Et pourtant je ne trouvais pas. Encore merci !!!
Exactement..!!! Merci David pour cette "illumination" (en approche de Noël, ça le fait grave..^^). Je trouve ton flow vraiment cool, et l'évolution de ta chaine va dans le bon sens. Merci !!!!
Mr Wallimann kudos for making another crystal clear video, one thing I would love to see would be an explanation of the major seconds minor seconds 4ths 5ths I don’t know the terminology for those notes but a video on those would be amazing!!! Thank you again I love your channel, probably my favorite
Thank you!
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Great lesson, thank you.
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Picked that up from a keyboard player some time ago. Think of a piano keyboard. White keys are C Ionian (D Dorian) and, of course, all of C majors relative modes, while all black keys add up to Eb minor pentatonic. Similar to "side slipping." I like the drum fill tip...seems like I've heard you use that analogy before. Thanks David Walliman!
Awesome lesson. Thanks a lot.
SubStract! :D Love it! - Thanks for the wonderful lessons David. You're one of my all-time favorite youtubers!
amazing as always
Sir
I'm devouring your channel hehe thanks so much for teaching us!
Thank you!!
sweet lesson!!
Love this David, please do more on 'Playing Outside'
Just great! No BS.
Total Legend!!
thank you so much for real
Stubbled on to your channel...subscribed! Excellent demonstration!!!
I like the drummer idea!
thanks man
DAVID WALLIMANN,
------- can you make a video showing examples of using "outside NOTES" of the pentatonic scale. Hotel California Don Felder uses a lot of Outside notes that are not in the pentatonic box.
The solo in GNR sweet child of mine also uses a lot of "outside notes" from the pentatonic box.
These are the 2 major examples of know of that use the pentatonic box but use outside notes as melodic notes.
If you know any other guitar solos or examples to help out please make a video explaining this to learn from. Thanks for the help
Hmm?..I didnt realize how great I was blind drunk in the 70s "hittin" all those Ab -C# notes in Evil Ways.Everybody always clapped so?Too bad I was playin a G dorian a half step high half the time...LOL..Great lesson ! really good to hear all my BAD notes be put into perspective.
Alors, comment dire? Je m'intéresse à l'improvisation. Et qui est mieux placé qu'un guitariste pour aider dans cette démarche un bassiste comme moi? Par contre je n'avais pas l'intention d'apprendre l'anglais. Quelle fut ma stupéfaction de vous entendre parler français !!!
Franchement, ce même tuto en français j'aurais adoré. :)
Ceci dit j'ai quand même compris le sens général et c'est très bien expliqué. Bravo Monsieur. ;)
Merci!!
Mind blown!
Шикарно!!!Спасибо
Great
This is going to make me sound a lot better than I actually am :D
Amazing mannn
Merci beaucoup David! THAT was the big key to understand what Ive been hearing in fusion forever and not knowing the formula for it. I knew going up or down in a minor pentatonic buit I didnt know that was related to the modes as maj/min. EXCELLENT!!! *Can you explain how to get package classes in various subjects from your website - the paid ones please? Im very short on time so fast direct tutorials that teach advanced subjects like this one is what I need...thanks again! *Didnt realise you were Franco origin....is that Canadian?
I thought this was literally how to play outside on the streets or something lol
Me too😂
I like busking, but in winter my fingers want to die
I feel stupid now
Salut David, après avoir vu le pdf, puis je penser dans le cas du ionien : min penta +b3 au lieu de maj penta +b5 ? en te remerciant pour tes supers vidéos !!
that thumbnail is killing me 🤣
Haha!
Wwooohhhoooo! C'était excellent !
what hords are being played?
Alright.. i’m at the 3:55 mark and i have to admit to being kinda flabbergasted because yesterday i was looking thru one of my many guitar neck schemas for 7 strings that i drew years ago and it was in the key of B minor/D major
Funny thing is for the first time in years, i noticed the physical pattern of the 5 empty notes throughout the scale/modes and thought “hmm, funny how it looks like the intervals/fingering of a minor pentatonic scale” and thought about experimenting later with it about a different “outside playing” approach using these 5 empty notes instead of going up/down a half step because i’ve never really got the sounds i was looking for with this approach(or maybe i just haven’t experimented enough)
Then today i find this video of you explaining this approach i just discovered yesterday
I feel like there is some weird synchronicity at work here and it makes me feel giddy and weirded out at the same time
Anyways, sorry for this unrelevant anecdote but i felt like sharing it
Thanks Dave for existing!
Ohhh, en passant! Je suis Québecois et je viens juste de finir d’entendre ta conversation au cellulaire
Je trouvais ça drôle comment tu n’as pas un accent français ultra prononcé comme le reste des Français de France
Est-ce que le fait de parler beaucoup en anglais a altéré ton accent français? Parce que si j’aurais pas vue le drapeau de France, j’aurais juré que tu as un peu un accent Québecois
I would say:
G Ionian.........play Penta 5th position 1/2 Step above...
G Dorian.........play Penta 1st position 1/2Step above...
G Phrygian......play Penta 2nd position WHOLE STEP above....
G Lydian.........play Penta 2nd position 1/2 Step above......
G Mixolydian...play Penta 3rd position 1/2 Step above.....
G Aeolian........play Penta 4th position 1/2 Step above...
Then if you are brave enough....(lol)...continue with following positions on that Penta.
Hope I didn't messed it up....lol.
Great lesson. Cool idea. This video should have a part 2 demonstrating the major version and expanding on this idea.
Great Idea!
Maybe a mini course?
Yeah, but he basically gave the formula to figure it out yourself. You take any 7-note scale and the 5 remaining notes are the outside. So just find the 5 remaining notes and you'll see that they form a pentatonic pattern. Major, minor, mode, etc. don't matter as long as you know the original 7 notes, the 5 outside notes are easy to map out.
In fact I would say you really don't want someone or tabs to show all the rest of the combinations, it is better to work them out yourself.
Haha très drôle !!!!
In my experience when you play outside you get to play louder!! Lol 😵
Vous parlez français
Ouais!
Instrumental music is great and good, but I like songs with lyrics, meanings and feelings. I can sing Rock, Country and Metal. If you have a song and need a vocalist let me know and I can dub my vocals onto your tracks. If you need lyrics, that takes me longer. I have been in bands going back to 1973. My voice is better than ever, so the idea that old vocalists don't have it is only true for lazy singers who don't keep their vocal chords in shape with hard work. Not everyone likes my singing, but I have had some fans over the years.
I didn’t know you spoke French! I speak very little French